Post by: cryder on January 27, 2015, 05:34:43 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 27, 2015, 05:42:44 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 27, 2015, 06:01:19 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 27, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
Post by: Timberstalker on January 27, 2015, 06:14:46 PM
If you are going for deer don't put in as partner's with Radsav and you will be fine. :tup:
That's funny stuff!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 27, 2015, 06:23:59 PM
If you are going for deer don't put in as partner's with Radsav and you will be fine. :tup:Hmmm....but he will have twice as many points going in compared to most. Do they square points for multiseason too?
Post by: trophyhunt on January 27, 2015, 06:41:53 PM
If you are going for deer don't put in as partner's with Radsav and you will be fine. :tup:OUCH! Very funny....for us anyway!?! :chuckle:
Post by: cryder on January 28, 2015, 07:09:42 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 29, 2015, 07:43:16 AM
As I expected ! Rough crowd,I was just considering deer and with the multi,flavor tag soup I was forced to swallow teeming up could only increase my odds by 50% I guess,Ive heard the odds are good on just deer and I believe im packing 6 points ,well Ill leave you folks to entertain yourselves, hopefully not at my,humerouse exspense, GO HAWKS !!!!Didn't mean to offend you, the jabs were directed at Radsav, he is the only guy that I heard of that put in for the multiseason deer permit and didn't get drawn.
Deer is pretty much a given unless you mess up the application or have really and I mean really bad luck.
Elk is tougher to draw but well worth it. It opens up your options as wide as you can get without having the governor's tag.
Again didn't mean to offend you, sorry if I did.
You might want to think about your initial post, the highlighted part may have offended some of the rifle guys, almost sounds like you are saying they are retarded.
Instead of the seasonal gamble on wich gmu or wich specific tag for what unit ive decided to pursue this multi season license deal,im thinking its because its the only thing that wasn't in the tag soup I created this past season,but I like the idea of more bow hunting not nessasarily on public lands im a little crazy but not retarded,you guys with the missle launchers can have and deserve everything you get,my self ill choose life !!Anywasy I was wondering if any off season readers know about this deal and the odds of getting this opportunity any information would be greatly appreciated !But for now ill just wait for that darn ice to melt off fourth of july lake. GO HAWKS !!! :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 29, 2015, 12:51:21 PM
Post by: washelkhunter on January 29, 2015, 01:00:55 PM
Post by: bearhunter99 on January 29, 2015, 01:19:31 PM
Ill put in for deer but wont buy the permit, if awarded elk i will buy that. If not i may not even bother hunting in Wa this year esp if they make us pay full freight for the big/small combo.
Just curious, why would you put in for the permit if you aren't going to buy it?
Post by: washelkhunter on January 29, 2015, 01:30:02 PM
Ill put in for deer but wont buy the permit, if awarded elk i will buy that. If not i may not even bother hunting in Wa this year esp if they make us pay full freight for the big/small combo.
Just curious, why would you put in for the permit if you aren't going to buy it?
Simple cost v benefit decision. The MS deer has always been flawed. For the cost you should be recieving a transport tag for each season. I dont mind the expense for the elk because 1 elk is equal to 3-4 deer. I wont buy the deer because i know the state is counting on the windfall.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 29, 2015, 01:45:55 PM
This is how RadSav didn't get drawn. Not poking fun or calling anyone out, just sayin when people put in for a permit and don't buy it people like RadSav that put in and want to buy the permit but didn't get drawn lose.Ill put in for deer but wont buy the permit, if awarded elk i will buy that. If not i may not even bother hunting in Wa this year esp if they make us pay full freight for the big/small combo.
Just curious, why would you put in for the permit if you aren't going to buy it?
Simple cost v benefit decision. The MS deer has always been flawed. For the cost you should be recieving a transport tag for each season. I dont mind the expense for the elk because 1 elk is equal to 3-4 deer. I wont buy the deer because i know the state is counting on the windfall.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 29, 2015, 01:49:20 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 29, 2015, 01:51:46 PM
I've got 12 points for elk, honestly. Where should I apply, why and I want to know where your honey holes are ?C-post unit.
Post by: cbond3318 on January 29, 2015, 01:54:23 PM
I've got 12 points for elk, honestly. Where should I apply, why and I want to know where your honey holes are ?C-post unit.
Anywaysy... :o
Post by: D-Rock425 on January 29, 2015, 01:56:19 PM
its funny how the state is really laughing at you for spending the 5 bucks every year for nothing. Now tell,me who's sticking it to who? The only thing you're doing is taking away from the guy that might really use it. The state can give a poo about your 140 bucks.Ill put in for deer but wont buy the permit, if awarded elk i will buy that. If not i may not even bother hunting in Wa this year esp if they make us pay full freight for the big/small combo.
Just curious, why would you put in for the permit if you aren't going to buy it?
Simple cost v benefit decision. The MS deer has always been flawed. For the cost you should be recieving a transport tag for each season. I dont mind the expense for the elk because 1 elk is equal to 3-4 deer. I wont buy the deer because i know the state is counting on the windfall.
Post by: JBar on January 29, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
:yeah: I'm not as much into elk hunting as I am deer hunting so I put in for Multi deer for the chance to chase them longer, if you're not going to buy it after getting drawn don't put in, that just takes away from folks like myself who enjoy the opportunity.Ill put in for deer but wont buy the permit, if awarded elk i will buy that. If not i may not even bother hunting in Wa this year esp if they make us pay full freight for the big/small combo.
Just curious, why would you put in for the permit if you aren't going to buy it?
Post by: grundy53 on January 29, 2015, 02:47:21 PM
It would cost you zero if you didn't apply. I really don't understand why you would pay the money to put in for the permit knowing full well you won't buy it. I'm sure folks like Radsav aren't too happy you are taking a permit out of their pocket.Ill put in for deer but wont buy the permit, if awarded elk i will buy that. If not i may not even bother hunting in Wa this year esp if they make us pay full freight for the big/small combo.
Just curious, why would you put in for the permit if you aren't going to buy it?
Simple cost v benefit decision. The MS deer has always been flawed. For the cost you should be recieving a transport tag for each season. I dont mind the expense for the elk because 1 elk is equal to 3-4 deer. I wont buy the deer because i know the state is counting on the windfall.
Post by: Rainier10 on January 29, 2015, 03:13:26 PM
Seems odd to me but people do it all the time, putting in for permits that they don't intend to use. Some of them do it thinking that they are saving the animals lives by taking the opportunity away from someone that would actually kill the animal and fill the tag.It would cost you zero if you didn't apply. I really don't understand why you would pay the money to put in for the permit knowing full well you won't buy it. I'm sure folks like Radsav aren't too happy you are taking a permit out of their pocket.Ill put in for deer but wont buy the permit, if awarded elk i will buy that. If not i may not even bother hunting in Wa this year esp if they make us pay full freight for the big/small combo.
Just curious, why would you put in for the permit if you aren't going to buy it?
Simple cost v benefit decision. The MS deer has always been flawed. For the cost you should be recieving a transport tag for each season. I dont mind the expense for the elk because 1 elk is equal to 3-4 deer. I wont buy the deer because i know the state is counting on the windfall.
Not saying that is what washelkhunter is doing, he says he is doing to make a statement to the game department. I guess everyone has the choice to use the permit process however they want. It's not what I would do but if it works for them more power to them.
Post by: washelkhunter on January 29, 2015, 03:26:03 PM
It would cost you zero if you didn't apply. I really don't understand why you would pay the money to put in for the permit knowing full well you won't buy it. I'm sure folks like Radsav aren't too happy you are taking a permit out of their pocket.
Simple cost v benefit decision. The MS deer has always been flawed. For the cost you should be recieving a transport tag for each season. I dont mind the expense for the elk because 1 elk is equal to 3-4 deer. I wont buy the deer because i know the state is counting on the windfall.
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Well here's the deal. The state is playing us for chumps. I contend they should be giving the permit drawer 3 transport tags for deer one for each weapon season. They should have capped it at like 2000 permits. Everyone would be all over that and happy to play. Instead they started out at 4000 permits for a few years but then 2 years ago increased the no: available 110% all for still only 1 deer. At the rate of $185 + change; old rate; but still $165+ I can buy a lot of chicken for that much dough, DOH! And if I want to just go chase critters around I can do that for just the cost of fuel and still learn and have fun. As far as Radsav goes he got more enjoyment on here for having not been drawn then he would have ever got with the MS. :chuckle:
Post by: grundy53 on January 29, 2015, 03:28:17 PM
It would cost you zero if you didn't apply. I really don't understand why you would pay the money to put in for the permit knowing full well you won't buy it. I'm sure folks like Radsav aren't too happy you are taking a permit out of their pocket.
Simple cost v benefit decision. The MS deer has always been flawed. For the cost you should be recieving a transport tag for each season. I dont mind the expense for the elk because 1 elk is equal to 3-4 deer. I wont buy the deer because i know the state is counting on the windfall.
Well here's the deal. The state is playing us for chumps. I contend they should be giving the permit drawer 3 transport tags for deer one for each weapon season. They should have capped it at like 2000 permits. Everyone would be all over that and happy to play. Instead they started out at 4000 permits for a few years but then 2 years ago increased the no: available 110% all for still only 1 deer. At the rate of $185 + change; old rate; but still $165+ I can buy a lot of chicken for that much dough, DOH! And if I want to just go chase critters around I can do that for just the cost of fuel and still learn and have fun. As far as Radsav goes he got more enjoyment on here for having not been drawn then he would have got with the MS. :chuckle:
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I think you missed my point. If you don't like the permit, why waste your money putting in for it?
Post by: JBar on January 29, 2015, 03:31:19 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on January 29, 2015, 03:40:23 PM
As far as Radsav goes he got more enjoyment on here for having not been drawn then he would have ever got with the MS. :chuckle:
this is possible. :chuckle: But still missing the point that others could use that permit. Again it is your right to put in and not use it if you choose.
Post by: washelkhunter on January 29, 2015, 03:42:49 PM
Post by: Jingles on January 29, 2015, 03:56:54 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 29, 2015, 04:30:02 PM
Its not wasted money to me. Ill gladly pay $6.50 to deprive the moneygrubbers $165. But thats just me. Like i said its a flawed gig designed to seperate the rubes from their change. Perhaps im saving some poor hunter who really cant afford it from wasting their money eh. :tup:
That would make sense if the number of tags wasn't already bigger than the number of applicants.
Post by: bobcat on January 29, 2015, 04:43:50 PM
Its not wasted money to me. Ill gladly pay $6.50 to deprive the moneygrubbers $165. But thats just me. Like i said its a flawed gig designed to seperate the rubes from their change. Perhaps im saving some poor hunter who really cant afford it from wasting their money eh. :tup:
That would make sense if the number of tags wasn't already bigger than the number of applicants.
That's not true anymore. In 2014 there were 8,593 applications for 8,500 permits.
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 29, 2015, 04:49:24 PM
Congrats washelkhunter, you screwed 92 folks :chuckle:
Post by: sakoshooter on January 29, 2015, 06:57:08 PM
Many of you on here have stated that you'll pay anything for licenses and tags in WA. If I had that kind of money, I'd be spending it in another state with better hunting and a Game Dept that truly cares about it's game and it's hunters.
Putting in for the multi season license with no intention of buying it is no different than everyone that fills in all 4 spaces on a special hunt app with no intention of hunting any of them after the first one.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on January 29, 2015, 07:01:05 PM
I've got 12 points for elk, honestly. Where should I apply, why and I want to know where your honey holes are ?C-post unit.
Thanks. I knew I forgot that one for answers.... :tup:
Post by: pd on January 29, 2015, 07:40:45 PM
Oh yeah I forgot, it finally broke the ceilling.
Congrats washelkhunter, you screwed 92 folks :chuckle:
Actually, it turns out that he did not "screw 92 folks." Here is why, from the statistics' link above:
1888 MULTISEASON DEER
Total Permits: 8,500
Total Issued: 8,500
Total Applications: 8,593
Not selected: 93
4999 POINTS OPTION: 171
So, you see, of the 8,500 permits available, WDFW actually sold all 8,500 of them. 171 applicants lost out (RadSav included). WashElkHunter is out the $6.60 it cost him to apply, but even though he might have been selected, because he didn't purchase by the deadline, somebody else got his tag. The state lost nothing, all 8,500 winning applicants purchased their multi-season tag.
Post by: bobcat on January 29, 2015, 08:35:00 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on January 30, 2015, 09:27:57 AM
I seriously doubt that all 8,500 multi season deer tags were sold. That info you put up only says that 8,500 permits were issued, not 8,500 TAGS WERE SOLD.
:yeah: I doubt they went from selling a few thousand to 8,500
Post by: LeviD1 on January 31, 2015, 09:53:05 AM
Post by: cryder on January 31, 2015, 10:26:54 AM
Post by: Bob33 on January 31, 2015, 10:54:46 AM
This is incorrect on a few points. The 171 applicants applied for points and did not "lose out"; they acquired a point, which is what they presumably wanted. There were 93 applications (not applicants, but a close approximation) that applied for a tag, and were not drawn. Whether or not they "lost out" depends on whether they really wanted to be drawn, like Radsav, or were applying for some other reason (to prevent others from drawing, changed their mind after applying, hadn't a clue what they were applying for, etc.)Oh yeah I forgot, it finally broke the ceilling.
Congrats washelkhunter, you screwed 92 folks :chuckle:
Actually, it turns out that he did not "screw 92 folks." Here is why, from the statistics' link above:
1888 MULTISEASON DEER
Total Permits: 8,500
Total Issued: 8,500
Total Applications: 8,593
Not selected: 93
4999 POINTS OPTION: 171
So, you see, of the 8,500 permits available, WDFW actually sold all 8,500 of them. 171 applicants lost out (RadSav included). WashElkHunter is out the $6.60 it cost him to apply, but even though he might have been selected, because he didn't purchase by the deadline, somebody else got his tag. The state lost nothing, all 8,500 winning applicants purchased their multi-season tag.
WDFW did not sell 8500 tags. They offered tags to individuals who jointly submitted 8500 applications. The number of individuals that actually purchased the tags is unknown from public data, but is certainly less than 8500.