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Title: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: higunner on January 28, 2015, 06:37:50 PM
Looking for opinions and or recommendations by make and model for AR-10's for big game hunting. I'm thinking .308, due to the fact that I reload and have tons of components.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: DJ_Mack on January 28, 2015, 06:44:15 PM
I am getting an Aero Precision 16" when they come back in stock.  Pretty great build for a decent price.  Also built in Tacoma.

www.aeroprecisionusa.com (http://www.aeroprecisionusa.com)

Check it out!
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: carlyoungs on January 28, 2015, 07:49:59 PM
Those prices aren't that bad. Looks like nice stuff
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 28, 2015, 07:52:43 PM
7mm-08 or 308 are great in the AR10.

Depends on how much you want to spend. MEGA makes great 308 rifles and uppers and lowers to build your own.

If you are looking to build your own. I have a mega kit I could make you a deal on.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: fly-by on January 31, 2015, 02:46:32 PM
If you plan to hunt with it, stay as light as possible.  If you aren't careful it's easy to end up over 12 lbs with a mount, optic, and full magazine.

DPMS makes one that comes in at 7.75 lbs bare:

http://www.dpmsinc.com/COMPACT-HUNTER_ep_151-1.html (http://www.dpmsinc.com/COMPACT-HUNTER_ep_151-1.html)

I've had a couple of the previous generation Lite Hunters (7.9 lbs) and they are also a good choice.  Still not the rifle I grab for a long hike.


Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Firedogg on January 31, 2015, 05:59:46 PM
Keep in mind that magazines for hunting won't be real heavy since you are limited to 5 rounds for big game.
 Rainier Arms puts together some nice kits too. Customer service is top notch too.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: jrebel on January 31, 2015, 06:23:55 PM
Remington R25 in .308 is hard to beat for the price.  Not sure I would want a hunting set up less than a 20" barrel.

Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: h20hunter on January 31, 2015, 06:44:40 PM
5 round limit?
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: goosegetter79 on January 31, 2015, 06:48:32 PM
Keep in mind that magazines for hunting won't be real heavy since you are limited to 5 rounds for big game.
 Rainier Arms puts together some nice kits too. Customer service is top notch too.



When did a 5 round limit come about? Never heard of that.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on January 31, 2015, 06:55:42 PM
I, and two other friends have Smith and Wesson M&P 10's (.308).  I have been getting just over moa and my friend is getting sub-moa.  No complaints at all and I was sold on the price and reviews.  I added magpul's PRS stock, MOE grip, MOE hand-guards.  NF sits on top.   

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815078_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815078_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44)

 :tup:


Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: jrebel on January 31, 2015, 06:58:25 PM
I, and two other friends have Smith and Wesson M&P 10's (.308).  I have been getting just over moa and my friend is getting sub-moa.  No complaints at all and I was sold on the price and reviews.  I added magpul's PRS stock, MOE grip, MOE hand-guards.  NF sits on top.   

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815078_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815078_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44)

 :tup:

You guys shooting factory ammo or reloading?
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: dontgetcrabs on January 31, 2015, 07:16:31 PM
Keep in mind that magazines for hunting won't be real heavy since you are limited to 5 rounds for big game.
 Rainier Arms puts together some nice kits too. Customer service is top notch too.



When did a 5 round limit come about? Never heard of that.


No round limit in WA State... Yet.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on January 31, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
I, and two other friends have Smith and Wesson M&P 10's (.308).  I have been getting just over moa and my friend is getting sub-moa.  No complaints at all and I was sold on the price and reviews.  I added magpul's PRS stock, MOE grip, MOE hand-guards.  NF sits on top.   

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815078_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815078_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44)

 :tup:

You guys shooting factory ammo or reloading?

Factory
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: fly-by on January 31, 2015, 07:34:53 PM
I, and two other friends have Smith and Wesson M&P 10's (.308).  I have been getting just over moa and my friend is getting sub-moa.  No complaints at all and I was sold on the price and reviews.  I added magpul's PRS stock, MOE grip, MOE hand-guards.  NF sits on top.   

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815078_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y (http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_815078_-1_785153_757785_757784_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JPnPFp2G44)

 :tup:

Just watched the TNP review you linked.  8lbs 3oz with an empty mag is very good, and the light profile barrel is not an issue for a hunting rifle.

Here's a picture of my Lite Hunter in .260 Remington.  It's currently set up with iron sights only for High Power competition.



Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: sled on January 31, 2015, 08:03:44 PM
5 round limit?
:yeah:
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: jasnt on January 31, 2015, 08:29:51 PM
No round limit in wa for rifles. I use 10 round for most my hunting.  And have had it full while being checked by Leo
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: actionshooter on January 31, 2015, 10:22:09 PM
I use a DPMS 3G1 .308 with a Swaro 1-6 scope. Its an awesome combination for in close hunting.
 Using an AR10 in one of the bigger calibers is a great option.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Firedogg on January 31, 2015, 10:34:26 PM
I must have been remembering some old rule that got changed. I remember having to place a plug/stopper in an SKS ( almost 20 years ago) I had set up to hunt blacktails with limiting the mag to 5 rounds.

  Guess I am wrong. Sorry about tossing out bad info.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 01, 2015, 10:16:26 AM
My next AR10 type build is going to be with a 20" Blackhole barrel chambered in 6.5 Creedmoore.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 01, 2015, 10:27:01 AM
No round limit in wa for rifles. I use 10 round for most my hunting.  And have had it full while being checked by Leo

Same here, 10 or a 17 round mag in a Grendel. Warden just asked me to drop the mag, he glanced at it in my hand and that was it.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: jrebel on February 01, 2015, 10:57:20 AM
My next AR10 type build is going to be with a 20" Blackhole barrel chambered in 6.5 Creedmoore.


 :drool: :drool: :drool:  I would love to have a 6.5 creedmoor in this platform. 
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 01, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
My next AR10 type build is going to be with a 20" Blackhole barrel chambered in 6.5 Creedmoore.


 :drool: :drool: :drool:  I would love to have a 6.5 creedmoor in this platform.

If you ever decide to pull the trigger, let me know. I get their barrels smoking fast and at a great price. :tup:
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Spawnstar on February 01, 2015, 08:35:16 PM
Sig 716, it has a factory gas piston installed. Big time reliable. After you go gas piston you won't go back.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Quarter Pounder on February 24, 2015, 07:49:44 PM
Agreed.  SIG 716 if you're on the cheap, if not step up to a SR-25.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: fly-by on February 26, 2015, 07:17:34 PM
As mentioned they are very reliable rifles but the Sig 716 is 9.3 pounds empty for the 16" barrel version, 10.6 pounds for the 20 incher. Add a mount, scope, and few rounds and it's a boat anchor. 

Scroll to the bottom for specs
http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/sig-sauers-new-sig716-7-62x51-nato/ (http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/sig-sauers-new-sig716-7-62x51-nato/)

I handled the PISTOL version and was really surprised by the heft.

If you plan to hike more than 500 yards from the truck, a DI gun with a light profile 18-20" barrel and a plain jane tube handguard seems like the way to go.  I have a couple that are set up this way.  They are plenty reliable and reasonable to carry.

Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Jim the Plumber on February 26, 2015, 08:20:16 PM
My Ruger SR 762 weighs in at 8.6 pounds for the bare rifle. Accuracy is OK, 1" to 1 1/4" at 100 yards depending on the load.
http://www.ruger.com/products/sr762/models.html (http://www.ruger.com/products/sr762/models.html)
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: xXLojackXx on February 26, 2015, 08:26:11 PM
My vote would be for a Larue PredatAR 7.62 if you want accuracy in a "lightweight" AR
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: lamrith on February 27, 2015, 05:21:12 AM
Which big game are you looking at hunting, do you have any AR10 platform already or are you set on having it??

Someone else mentioned it in passing, but if you already have AR15 you could build a 6.5 Grendel upper for one of your existing lowers.  Grendel has great ballistics, shoots a little flatter than 308 out passed 3-400yrds depending on load.  6.5mm is big game legal in WA.  Smaller gun format could let you keep the gun lighter as well as less expensive to build.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Biggerhammer on February 27, 2015, 10:14:01 PM
Which big game are you looking at hunting, do you have any AR10 platform already or are you set on having it??

Someone else mentioned it in passing, but if you already have AR15 you could build a 6.5 Grendel upper for one of your existing lowers.  Grendel has great ballistics, shoots a little flatter than 308 out passed 3-400yrds depending on load.  6.5mm is big game legal in WA.  Smaller gun format could let you keep the gun lighter as well as less expensive to build.

Whatched a 16" Grendel carbine this last season jam a Mulie in the dirt at 303 yard and a Bull Elk at 411. Same carbine has a one shot stop on a Mulie at 496 yards. It can be done but I'm leaning more towards a 6.5 Creedmoore on th AR10 platform for this coming season.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: AWS on February 27, 2015, 11:17:40 PM
To keep it light any thoughts to an AR-15 in 25 WSSM.  I've even heard of 6.5 & 7mm WSSM's

http://www.dtechuppers.com/ (http://www.dtechuppers.com/)
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Blacklab on February 28, 2015, 08:03:14 AM
If I was to a AR 10 I think I would go 260 or creedmoore. Big fan of small bullets going really fast  :drool:
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: fly-by on March 01, 2015, 07:58:05 AM
If I was to a AR 10 I think I would go 260 or creedmoore. Big fan of small bullets going really fast  :drool:

I shoot a lot of 100gr a-max out of mine.  Inside of 500 yards the lower BC vs heavier bullets is not a big deal to me, and recoil is almost nothing.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: Blacklab on March 01, 2015, 12:59:15 PM
I been shooting 123 & 100 A-max out of my Grendel and love it. Can shoot it all day with no recoil fatigue  :tup: Got a box of 85 gr sierra to try out later.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: ELKBURGER on March 01, 2015, 01:27:58 PM
There are some good setups in 243 win too.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 01, 2015, 02:13:33 PM
I saw an AR in 243 at North 40 in Omak on Friday.......
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: lamrith on March 01, 2015, 04:21:55 PM
I been shooting 123 & 100 A-max out of my Grendel and love it. Can shoot it all day with no recoil fatigue  :tup: Got a box of 85 gr sierra to try out later.
Yeah no recoil issues at all, another big plus to the grendel. 

Got my grendel out for the second time today, put another 20 thru it so only 40 total.  $300 brownells 18" barrel&Bolt, $60 BSA scope, $65 ALG Defense Combat trigger, Hornady 123G Amax.  My shakey self behind the trigger and it still shoots subMOA with barely more recoil than an 556 AR.
 :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 01, 2015, 04:28:04 PM
That's pretty good for 10 feet...... :chuckle:
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: lamrith on March 01, 2015, 04:35:32 PM
That's pretty good for 10 feet...... :chuckle:
I had to back out that far to stop putting flashburns on the target.. :bash:
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 01, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
That's pretty good for 10 feet...... :chuckle:
I had to back out that far to stop putting flashburns on the target.. :bash:



I'm sure.................you might of started a fire.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: zike on March 01, 2015, 06:44:50 PM
If I was to a AR 10 I think I would go 260 or creedmoore. Big fan of small bullets going really fast  :drool:

 :yeah:

Thats why I shoot a 264 mag, its not an AR though.
My AR is 308 and 6.8 SPS.
Title: Re: AR-10 Hunting configuration
Post by: zike on March 01, 2015, 06:57:30 PM
[quote author=lamrith 

Whatched a 16" Grendel carbine this last season jam a Mulie in the dirt at 303 yard and a Bull Elk at 411. Same carbine has a one shot stop on a Mulie at 496 yards. It can be done but I'm leaning more towards a 6.5 Creedmoore on th AR10 platform for this coming season.

Can someone tell me what a Grendel carbine does for ft lb of energy at 300 to 500 yards. IMHO a 243 isn't much of an elk gun let alone  a Grendel at 500yards. I was read a gun writer  said a 1000 ft lb of energy for a deer rifle.  My 500 yard elk rifle says Weatherby 340, when you want to reach out and touch one.
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