Hunting Washington Forum
Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: bearpaw on February 21, 2015, 05:16:59 PM
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Has anyone tried the Accubond Long Range bullets?
http://www.nosler.com/accubond-long-range-bullet/ (http://www.nosler.com/accubond-long-range-bullet/)
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my hunting buddy was getting very good results with them out of his 7 short mag..he only shot one whitetail this year so idk how they are at killing but accuracy was pretty dang good
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I wanted to try them last year but they weren't available, so I ended up buying some Bergers and they shot really well, so I went ahead and hunted with the Bergers. Killed mule deer in Wyoming, and my bighorn sheep here in Washington. I think I'll just stick with the Bergers, especially since I see the Long Range Accubonds still aren't available, and the Bergers are, at least 270 and 30 caliber at Midway.
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have not tried yet.Question other than the color of the tip what makes these any diff. than any other boat tail?Is the nose actually shallower on this bullet then non long range advertised bullets? :dunno: Thanks for any help on this.
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The white poly tip has less drag over say green or blue :chuckle:
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I have the 7mm,270 and 30 cal sitting here. I hope to get some loaded up and running here in the next month. I will post up some result when I get some.
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No first hand knowledge, but I have a friend in Oregon who took an Oregon bull and a Wyoming bull with the 168grain 7mm last year (7RemMag). Both animals were right around 500 yards when he shot. While he killed both with one shot each he has not stopped complaining about the performance. Guess he lost jackets both times before getting into the chest cavity leaving some tough trailing after the shots. He's been a Berger guy for some time and looks like he is going back to them.
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I just wish they were making one in a .257 110-115gr for my Weatherby. Bergers have shot well though.
stevemiller - these have the longer boattail and ogive making for a more streamlined shape to perform better at extreme ranges than the typically shorter and squatter bullets. No real meaningful ballistic difference until you get beyond 400yds imo.
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I've read several stories of people complaining about performance of the lrab on game.
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I just wish they were making one in a .257 110-115gr for my Weatherby. Bergers have shot well though.
stevemiller - these have the longer boattail and ogive making for a more streamlined shape to perform better at extreme ranges than the typically shorter and squatter bullets. No real meaningful ballistic difference until you get beyond 400yds imo.
thanks for that info,anyone have any load data for these yet.
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I just wish they were making one in a .257 110-115gr for my Weatherby. Bergers have shot well though.
stevemiller - these have the longer boattail and ogive making for a more streamlined shape to perform better at extreme ranges than the typically shorter and squatter bullets. No real meaningful ballistic difference until you get beyond 400yds imo.
thanks for that info,anyone have any load data for these yet.
http://www.nosler.com/load-data (http://www.nosler.com/load-data)
Pick out your caliber then scroll down till you see the right bullet.
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Thanks for the comments guys, that's what I wanted to know! :tup:
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Hahaha! Awesome! "I read", " I read" , "I read".. Some people wonder why Barnes sells bullets " I read".
Holes kill stuff period, sure I prefer some bullets over others but a FMJ through the shoulders of anything is dead.
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So Biggerhammer, do you have an opinion on the long range accubonds? :dunno:
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I'm not going to say much becauase they are already hard enough to find, believe It or not I found 8lb's h1000 and 210 accubond's in the same day. might as well be searching for unicorn's
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I'm not going to say much becauase they are already hard enough to find, believe It or not I found 8lb's h1000 and 210 accubond's in the same day. might as well be searching for unicorn's
Have you shot anything with them? How did they perform?
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Bearpaw, have heard many results from customers. Most are going back to standard AB's or Barnes. Too frangible at magnum velocities under 400-500 yards.
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I bought the factory loaded 150lr for my 270wsm didn't shoot well from my gun I have one new box I would trade for a box of the standard accubond if someone wants to try them
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bearpaw I shot my deer last year at 355yds it virtually performed exactly like a there regular accubond. knocked the deer off his feet with a lung shot and never got back up. the only thing I've shot at any distance is a coyote, to be fare any 200 grain bullet would do it's job on them. I think maybe people aren't loading them fast enough to get there full potential. and they are crazy accurate
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The were very accurate in my 7STW. I went back to partitions as I have a much higher chance of a 25-300 yards shot.
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Loaded in .270 winny with same powder charge and bto as our berger load, shot just as accurate but the LRs dropped three more inches at 300 and berger kept pulling away at 400, 500, 600, and 700 yards when tested in 150 grain bullet, might just be our load and rifle but I liked the flatter trajectory just my two cents!
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You and I have both have put many animals of all sizes in the dirt over the years. Stick with what works and has been proven usually works best. Fun to experiment with different bullets, but in this case, there are better, proven, choices in my opinion..
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I bought the factory loaded 150lr for my 270wsm didn't shoot well from my gun I have one new box I would trade for a box of the standard accubond if someone wants to try them
Litz tested the 150, and well, it's marginaly stable in a 10 twist tube. Really needs a 9.
I have had "OK" luck getting them to shoot, but something is amiss with them. as I approached 3000 FPS, I was starting to get some fliers.
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I have had great results with Nosler Accubonds. I have shot 180 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips out of my 300 Win Mag. for years with great accuracy, but they're not really a great hunting bullet. When Nosler came out with Accubonds, I loaded some up and was pleased to find that they shoot the same as the Basllistic Tips. No problem shooting 1000+ with either and the Accubonds are easier on live venison.
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I have had great results with Nosler Accubonds. I have shot 180 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips out of my 300 Win Mag. for years with great accuracy, but they're not really a great hunting bullet. When Nosler came out with Accubonds, I loaded some up and was pleased to find that they shoot the same as the Basllistic Tips. No problem shooting 1000+ with either and the Accubonds are easier on live venison.
this thread is about the accubond long range bullet.
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I have had great results with Nosler Accubonds. I have shot 180 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips out of my 300 Win Mag. for years with great accuracy, but they're not really a great hunting bullet. When Nosler came out with Accubonds, I loaded some up and was pleased to find that they shoot the same as the Basllistic Tips. No problem shooting 1000+ with either and the Accubonds are easier on live venison.
this thread is about the accubond long range bullet.
Yes, different then the standard accubond, which is a great big game bullet
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I loaded some 190's up last year for my 300 weatherby and took one bear right at 300 yards with it. Dropped the bear in its tracks. I wasn't overly impressed to find the bear (this was quite a feat, as there was no blood trail and he tumbled a good distance down the mountain) and see the bullet hadn't exited, as well as left fragments everywhere with the rest of the bullet, which was lodged into the hide on the opposite shoulder (not such a bad thing) but weighed about 150 grains less.
I'm used to accubonds holding together, but I realize this bullet is designed to expand at lower velocities (longrange). A 300 yard shot isn't really a good test for a long range bullet, but its a good average or beyond average shot distance, and it absolutely pummeled this bear. The thing I did like is it left enough of the base/jacket of the bullet to continue on through the bear, which has not been the case for me on bergers.
I would still continue trying this bullet out but I just couldn't get it to shoot the way I wanted it to so I'm back to 180's trying to tighten things up a bit. I have some 129's for my 6.5x284 I'm currently using, but am probably making the switch to 140 standard AB's as the 129 LR's have become too hard to find.
Here's a pic of the recovered bullet
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Great real world, no BS/senseless yapping write up. :tup:
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A couple more critters that fell victim to the 190 LR AB last year, but both hardly worth mentioning for bullet performance.
The antelope was 410 yards quartering to in some howling wind. I'll tell you what, doping wind with howling gusts in the wide open wyoming prairie is not easy, and to be honest not a shot I should have taken... I waited for a calm in the wind and took the shot but it managed to ear hole him. :bash: He of course was DRT
The blacktail was about 100 yards, just before dark and rushed opportunity, decent framed large bodied deer... turned out to be a two point. Hit him high in the shoulder, DRT but at that distance there was significant shrapnel all over the place and a complete pass through.
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Well done!👍
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Congratulations on some nice critters! Looks like the lr acubonds. Laid them down for you, but like you said, bullet performance could have been better..but it looks like it worked! :tup:
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A guy I use to work with here in North Eastern Montana swears by them and has taken Antelope, Mule deer and Elk but I personally have not used them.
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The thing I did like is it left enough of the base/jacket of the bullet to continue on through the bear, which has not been the case for me on bergers.
It seems nobody has perfected a bullet that's best for all distances. sirmissalot provided some great comments and info, thanks. I have been looking for a long range bullet that will hold together better than the bergers. I'm wondering if other hunters have noticed the same?
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It seems nobody has perfected a bullet that's best for all distances. sirmissalot provided some great comments and info, thanks. I have been looking for a long range bullet that will hold together better than the bergers. I'm wondering if other hunters have noticed the same?
I think a lot of people understand this. 3000fps+ is a whole different dynamic than 1800fps-.
One of my better friends has gotten into long range deer hunting with some really good success. He carries a dope book with medium and long range loads. His thought is that beyond 500 yards he is not going to take a quick shot. So he has plenty of time to change the round in his gun. He was shooting Accubonds out to 450 and SST or AMax beyond that depending on what animal he was hunting. He also wanted to test the ABLR but could never find a large enough supply to work up a complete profile so hasn't yet done it. I know he liked the down range accuracy he was getting with the Berger, but he complained about inconsistent results on game. Last years muledeer was 820 something yards with the SST (I'm not sure what weight) out of the 308 Norma. He was quite happy with what he saw.
I believe his longest shot was a Montana whitetail just shy of 1,000 with the A-Max. "Like I injected a grenade in that deer", he said! I'm not sure what the velocity at that range would be, but it would have to be under 1,700, I would think.
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It seems nobody has perfected a bullet that's best for all distances. sirmissalot provided some great comments and info, thanks. I have been looking for a long range bullet that will hold together better than the bergers. I'm wondering if other hunters have noticed the same?
I think a lot of people understand this. 3000fps+ is a whole different dynamic than 1800fps-.
One of my better friends has gotten into long range deer hunting with some really good success. He carries a dope book with medium and long range loads. His thought is that beyond 500 yards he is not going to take a quick shot. So he has plenty of time to change the round in his gun. He was shooting Accubonds out to 450 and SST or AMax beyond that depending on what animal he was hunting. He also wanted to test the ABLR but could never find a large enough supply to work up a complete profile so hasn't yet done it. I know he liked the down range accuracy he was getting with the Berger, but he complained about inconsistent results on game. Last years muledeer was 820 something yards with the SST (I'm not sure what weight) out of the 308 Norma. He was quite happy with what he saw.
I believe his longest shot was a Montana whitetail just shy of 1,000 with the A-Max. "Like I injected a grenade in that deer", he said! I'm not sure what the velocity at that range would be, but it would have to be under 1,700, I would think.
exactly Rad! I have been hunting with my 338 Edge long before most here had even heard of the round..bullets react differently at any given range, velocity, impact medium. Twist rate, and many more subtle factors. Back when most of my hunting was with single shot handguns, (mid 70's) we knew that the light varmint bullets, pushed at slower velocities from our 7mm tcu's, Herrets, and BR rounds, performed amazingly well on larger game. Velocity makes a huge difference on how a bullet reacts at impact, as Sirmissalots experience shows. Appreciate him sharing some real world, first hand views.
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It seems nobody has perfected a bullet that's best for all distances. sirmissalot provided some great comments and info, thanks. I have been looking for a long range bullet that will hold together better than the bergers. I'm wondering if other hunters have noticed the same?
I think a lot of people understand this. 3000fps+ is a whole different dynamic than 1800fps-.
One of my better friends has gotten into long range deer hunting with some really good success. He carries a dope book with medium and long range loads. His thought is that beyond 500 yards he is not going to take a quick shot. So he has plenty of time to change the round in his gun. He was shooting Accubonds out to 450 and SST or AMax beyond that depending on what animal he was hunting. He also wanted to test the ABLR but could never find a large enough supply to work up a complete profile so hasn't yet done it. I know he liked the down range accuracy he was getting with the Berger, but he complained about inconsistent results on game. Last years muledeer was 820 something yards with the SST (I'm not sure what weight) out of the 308 Norma. He was quite happy with what he saw.
I believe his longest shot was a Montana whitetail just shy of 1,000 with the A-Max. "Like I injected a grenade in that deer", he said! I'm not sure what the velocity at that range would be, but it would have to be under 1,700, I would think.
:yeah: I started doing that with coyotes, I had three loads for my 257 roy, what I used depended on distance.
100 gr loaded 3000 fps
100 gr loaded 3300 fps
75 hpbt loaded 4000 fps
I still load more than 1 bullet for most of my guns, but always looking for that "more perfect" bullet! :chuckle:
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"Magic man", aka Coach found me some 190's and I will be running a few test loads tomorrow morning. Interested to see how they run. If I keep them to around 2825fps they "should" work with the same adjustments as my 180's. Out to distances I will shoot anyway. They start pulling away out past 750.
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Surprised to hear all about these blow-ups with a bonded bullet.
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First test loads were an epic fail. 2.5" groups @100 yards. Back to the drawing board.
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Surprised to hear all about these blow-ups with a bonded bullet.
I don't think these are hot bonded. Aren't they chemical bonded :dunno:
That is a question, I don't know for sure. Friend of mine from highschool just started working there I'll send a text and see if he has the right answer unless someone in the know here lets me know first!
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Interesting article I found a while back. Finally found where I had saved the link.
http://www.thediyhunter.com/trail-camera-scouting/118-2013-utah-youth-elk-hunt-dallen-shoots-big-ol-charlie-one-horn (http://www.thediyhunter.com/trail-camera-scouting/118-2013-utah-youth-elk-hunt-dallen-shoots-big-ol-charlie-one-horn)
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First test loads were an epic fail. 2.5" groups @100 yards. Back to the drawing board.
how are you going about load development? I had a box of 210s last year but couldnt get myself to try them so i sold them. My 215 bergers do so well for me. :chuckle: nothing at all agains the ablr.
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First test loads were an epic fail. 2.5" groups @100 yards. Back to the drawing board.
how are you going about load development? I had a box of 210s last year but couldnt get myself to try them so i sold them. My 215 bergers do so well for me. :chuckle: nothing at all agains the ablr.
. Starting with a low charge and working up. Once I narrow down a charge range then I mess with seating depth. I think that is my issue with these, I have them too deep in order to fit my factory box mag. I will end up having to single feed or go to a Wyatt's box mag. Wyatt's will give me the space I need but requires some fitting, which I am too scared to do. Lol
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First test loads were an epic fail. 2.5" groups @100 yards. Back to the drawing board.
how are you going about load development? I had a box of 210s last year but couldnt get myself to try them so i sold them. My 215 bergers do so well for me. :chuckle: nothing at all agains the ablr.
. Starting with a low charge and working up. Once I narrow down a charge range then I mess with seating depth. I think that is my issue with these, I have them too deep in order to fit my factory box mag. I will end up having to single feed or go to a Wyatt's box mag. Wyatt's will give me the space I need but requires some fitting, which I am too scared to do. Lol
hmm. Was the 2.5 inches with the seating depth as long as mag allows? How far does that put you from the lands? What twist is your barrel?
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First test loads were an epic fail. 2.5" groups @100 yards. Back to the drawing board.
how are you going about load development? I had a box of 210s last year but couldnt get myself to try them so i sold them. My 215 bergers do so well for me. :chuckle: nothing at all agains the ablr.
. Starting with a low charge and working up. Once I narrow down a charge range then I mess with seating depth. I think that is my issue with these, I have them too deep in order to fit my factory box mag. I will end up having to single feed or go to a Wyatt's box mag. Wyatt's will give me the space I need but requires some fitting, which I am too scared to do. Lol
if he burns up the first hundred then the next will cost him ! :chuckle:
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I am developing a load for the 210's right now. I had some 190's last and the best load I found was 92.5 grains h1000. shot very accurate. really pull away from other bullets past 700yds
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First test loads were an epic fail. 2.5" groups @100 yards. Back to the drawing board.
how are you going about load development? I had a box of 210s last year but couldnt get myself to try them so i sold them. My 215 bergers do so well for me. :chuckle: nothing at all agains the ablr.
. Starting with a low charge and working up. Once I narrow down a charge range then I mess with seating depth. I think that is my issue with these, I have them too deep in order to fit my factory box mag. I will end up having to single feed or go to a Wyatt's box mag. Wyatt's will give me the space I need but requires some fitting, which I am too scared to do. Lol
hmm. Was the 2.5 inches with the seating depth as long as mag allows? How far does that put you from the lands? What twist is your barrel?
its a 10 twist. My COL is 2.858, which is basically what will fit in my mag. I'm gonna gonna see how long I can get em tomorrow evening when I get some time to load some more shells. Nosler doesn't have any load data for imr4350 for their 190's so I am working from scratch. Different powder may help but I have stupid amounts of 4350. I am way off the lands.
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Fyi. Shootersproshop has 7mm 175 grain lrab in stock at a cheap price!
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From the sounds of things some folks jump around trying different bullets. Maybe I'm old school but as long as I'm getting one shot one kill results with Brand X bullet why should I go to a different bullet?
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What's your brand x ?? I believe chasing the "perfect" bullet is almost as much fun as the actual shooting for some shooters....would be kind of boring to just find a decent load and never play with the other options :chuckle:
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FYI. Advertised BC's are not accurate
210gr lrab
G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.730
G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.366
According to Bryan litz's new book "ballistic performance of rifle bullets"
G1 .647
G7 .332
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What's your brand x ?? I believe chasing the "perfect" bullet is almost as much fun as the actual shooting for some shooters....would be kind of boring to just find a decent load and never play with the other options :chuckle:
:yeah: :tung:
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What's your brand x ?? I believe chasing the "perfect" bullet is almost as much fun as the actual shooting for some shooters....would be kind of boring to just find a decent load and never play with the other options :chuckle:
:yeah: :tung:
. I agree 100%! Shooting is a ton of fun, why not experiment and have fun? Can't kill deer in the spring so ya gotta do something to pass the time.
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FYI. Advertised BC's are not accurate
210gr lrab
G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.730
G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.366
According to Bryan litz's new book "ballistic performance of rifle bullets"
G1 .647
G7 .332
:yeah: these 190's are supposed to be more like .570ish. Everything I have looked up says they are exaggerated by about 10%.
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Karl , RT has the chronographs in route !
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Karl , RT has the chronographs in route !
YEEEE HAAAAA! :IBCOOL:
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FYI. Advertised BC's are not accurate
210gr lrab
G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.730
G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.366
According to Bryan litz's new book "ballistic performance of rifle bullets"
G1 .647
G7 .332
So if that is true it sucks, how do we know what claims we can trust? :dunno:
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FYI. Advertised BC's are not accurate
210gr lrab
G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.730
G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.366
According to Bryan litz's new book "ballistic performance of rifle bullets"
G1 .647
G7 .332
So if that is true it sucks, how do we know what claims we can trust? :dunno:
I looked into this quite a bit, and it seems like everyone is preaching the same thing. True BC is exaggerated anywhere from 5 to 10 percent under Noslers numbers.I am still in load development stage so I can not personally comment on how accurate Noslers numbers are. When I get a good load worked up and can push them out to distance I should know more. I'm a horrible shot though so even then I probably won't have accurate data :chuckle:
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FYI. Advertised BC's are not accurate
210gr lrab
G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.730
G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.366
According to Bryan litz's new book "ballistic performance of rifle bullets"
G1 .647
G7 .332
So if that is true it sucks, how do we know what claims we can trust? :dunno:
thats why I bought the book. It is all the common long range rifle bullets tested in the same manner in real world conditions. I learned that bullets bc actually changes with the speed of the bullet. I don't know if it's legal to post this pic but....
You can see that it starts high as speed is high but as it slows so does the BC. Many BC's are tested in perfect conditions, Bryan tested these in controlled conditions at sea level then at 2000ft(of I remember corectly) and again at 5000ft. Pic is for the 210 lrab It also shows in the graph how using the g1 bc for this bullet (secant ogive) will really throw your charts off.
Strongly recommend this book and applied ballistics for long range shooting. These books have really taught me a lot!
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More people should buy this book
Bc is a increasingly over simplified way to predict bullet impact.....this stuff is very very complex ! That's why you should alway shoot every distance up to your max
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What's your brand x ?? I believe chasing the "perfect" bullet is almost as much fun as the actual shooting for some shooters....would be kind of boring to just find a decent load and never play with the other options :chuckle:
My bullet is the Sierra 180 grain SBT pushed by 58.5 gr IMR4350 ignited with Fed 215 primers out of a Browning ABolt 30-06
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Round two was a success! 5 shot group @100yds! The flyer was my last shot and 100% my fault! Too many rounds down range and I was getting flinchy. These were seated to 2.935" which is .015" off the lands! When I get home I will put the calipers on the target. I have to single feed these though. They averaged 2,788fps. I need to milk about 40fps more out of them so I can shoot them with my 180's. We shall see how it works.
Interesting note, my first test group was .025" off the lands with the same powder charge and a bit over an inch.
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Chrony is courtesy of Coach! Worked great! Changes poi but didn't effect accuracy at all!
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I really like the idea of those MagnetoSpeed chronys for speed but have to wonder about accuracy testing while using them. Speed is easily quantifiable but barrel stresses are less so; having that thing hanging off the barrel could likely have a big effect on bullet accuracy or POI.
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I really like the idea of those MagnetoSpeed chronys for speed but have to wonder about accuracy testing while using them. Speed is easily quantifiable but barrel stresses are less so; having that thing hanging off the barrel could likely have a big effect on bullet accuracy or POI.
. I chrony'd 6 rifles today and I can tell you without a doubt, it does NOT effect accuracy. It does effect point of impact. Everything was several inches high.
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The target above was shot WITH the magneto attached.
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Only thing I don't like about the magneto chrono is you cant check speeds at distance.
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Nice group!
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That a boy !
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Flyer really chaps me! Should have been a .4" group, instead its .80"! Pretty sure its the best group I have ever shot with a big game caliber. Except for that little guy! :bash:
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Too much Pepsi ! Nice job
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Too much Pepsi ! Nice job
Diet Dew actually :chuckle:
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Dude if that thing is grouping like that I'd just dial it and run. You might see if someone has some h4831c the wsm. and 190 grain is nosler ticket
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Dude if that thing is grouping like that I'd just dial it and run. You might see if someone has some h4831c the wsm. and 190 grain is nosler ticket
I know one guy who I think would have some. I shot him a text to see if he would let me burn some or maybe trade for some. I'm gonna try and up the fps a bit with the 4350 first and see if the accuracy holds. If not, I know I have a winner with this current load! Idaho can't get here soon enough.
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Well if you burn those up I have another box of fishing wieghtS .
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FYI. Advertised BC's are not accurate
210gr lrab
G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.730
G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.366
According to Bryan litz's new book "ballistic performance of rifle bullets"
G1 .647
G7 .332
So if that is true it sucks, how do we know what claims we can trust? :dunno:
And Litz's collects a check from Berger bullets. Rocket scientist or not, I've spoke with the man, he rides for the brand(Check). ;)
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Round two was a success! 5 shot group @100yds! The flyer was my last shot and 100% my fault! Too many rounds down range and I was getting flinchy. These were seated to 2.935" which is .015" off the lands! When I get home I will put the calipers on the target. I have to single feed these though. They averaged 2,788fps. I need to milk about 40fps more out of them so I can shoot them with my 180's. We shall see how it works.
Interesting note, my first test group was .025" off the lands with the same powder charge and a bit over an inch.
NO WAY! Those Reminton's can't shoot! ;)
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Well if you burn those up I have another box of fishing wieghtS .
I'm doing good, only shot 15 so far :IBCOOL:
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Round two was a success! 5 shot group @100yds! The flyer was my last shot and 100% my fault! Too many rounds down range and I was getting flinchy. These were seated to 2.935" which is .015" off the lands! When I get home I will put the calipers on the target. I have to single feed these though. They averaged 2,788fps. I need to milk about 40fps more out of them so I can shoot them with my 180's. We shall see how it works.
Interesting note, my first test group was .025" off the lands with the same powder charge and a bit over an inch.
NO WAY! Those Reminton's can't shoot! ;)
Its completely stock too :chuckle:
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I'm gonna play a little bit more with some loads and then I will stretch the legs a little bit with the winning combo.
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FYI. Advertised BC's are not accurate
210gr lrab
G1 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.730
G7 BALLISTIC COEFFICIENT 0.366
According to Bryan litz's new book "ballistic performance of rifle bullets"
G1 .647
G7 .332
So if that is true it sucks, how do we know what claims we can trust? :dunno:
And Litz's collects a check from Berger bullets. Rocket scientist or not, I've spoke with the man, he rides for the brand(Check). ;)
that may very well be but his hornady info on my bullet is spot on with what I verified my self :dunno: it's working for me :tup:
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Round two was a success! 5 shot group @100yds! The flyer was my last shot and 100% my fault! Too many rounds down range and I was getting flinchy. These were seated to 2.935" which is .015" off the lands! When I get home I will put the calipers on the target. I have to single feed these though. They averaged 2,788fps. I need to milk about 40fps more out of them so I can shoot them with my 180's. We shall see how it works.
Interesting note, my first test group was .025" off the lands with the same powder charge and a bit over an inch.
NO WAY! Those Reminton's can't shoot! ;)
Its completely stock too :chuckle:
Nooooo! Say it isn't so! There is no way a stock Remington 700 can shoot without 2K in custom gunsmith work. Well, at least I've heard a few clowns spew :puke: of such. :tup:
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Round two was a success! 5 shot group @100yds! The flyer was my last shot and 100% my fault! Too many rounds down range and I was getting flinchy. These were seated to 2.935" which is .015" off the lands! When I get home I will put the calipers on the target. I have to single feed these though. They averaged 2,788fps. I need to milk about 40fps more out of them so I can shoot them with my 180's. We shall see how it works.
Interesting note, my first test group was .025" off the lands with the same powder charge and a bit over an inch.
Great grouping, I'm interested to hear how they do on game! :tup:
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Round two was a success! 5 shot group @100yds! The flyer was my last shot and 100% my fault! Too many rounds down range and I was getting flinchy. These were seated to 2.935" which is .015" off the lands! When I get home I will put the calipers on the target. I have to single feed these though. They averaged 2,788fps. I need to milk about 40fps more out of them so I can shoot them with my 180's. We shall see how it works.
Interesting note, my first test group was .025" off the lands with the same powder charge and a bit over an inch.
NO WAY! Those Reminton's can't shoot! ;)
Its completely stock too :chuckle:
Nooooo! Say it isn't so! There is no way a stock Remington 700 can shoot without 2K in custom gunsmith work. Well, at least I've heard a few clowns spew :puke: of such. :tup:
It's even a newer one! I don't believe it. True story would come out if he showed us the rest of the target :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Round two was a success! 5 shot group @100yds! The flyer was my last shot and 100% my fault! Too many rounds down range and I was getting flinchy. These were seated to 2.935" which is .015" off the lands! When I get home I will put the calipers on the target. I have to single feed these though. They averaged 2,788fps. I need to milk about 40fps more out of them so I can shoot them with my 180's. We shall see how it works.
Interesting note, my first test group was .025" off the lands with the same powder charge and a bit over an inch.
NO WAY! Those Reminton's can't shoot! ;)
Its completely stock too :chuckle:
Nooooo! Say it isn't so! There is no way a stock Remington 700 can shoot without 2K in custom gunsmith work. Well, at least I've heard a few clowns spew :puke: of such. :tup:
It's even a newer one! I don't believe it. True story would come out if he showed us the rest of the target :chuckle: :chuckle:
Nothing to see hear folks! Move along now 8)
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Just a heads up to you .284 guys out there, shooters pro shop has 175gr LRAB Blem's right now for $39 a box.
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That's a good deal. I have had thoughts of lrabs loaded for non magnums where they would deliver massive wound channels in the 100 -300 yard range. I'm only interested in hitting the pocket with acurate bullets . Those 175 might be assume in a 7mm/08.
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I am still looking for some more 150 grainers in .277