Post by: Romulus1297 on February 28, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 28, 2015, 09:45:55 PM
Post by: Romulus1297 on February 28, 2015, 09:56:08 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 28, 2015, 10:04:20 PM
Here you go: www.washingtonbigbulls.com (http://www.washingtonbigbulls.com)
Post by: Romulus1297 on February 28, 2015, 10:09:37 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on February 28, 2015, 10:14:43 PM
Congrats on the tag.
Post by: Romulus1297 on February 28, 2015, 10:19:16 PM
Post by: Tbar on February 28, 2015, 10:22:46 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on February 28, 2015, 10:35:00 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on February 28, 2015, 10:36:25 PM
Post by: bearpaw on February 28, 2015, 10:43:04 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 28, 2015, 10:56:16 PM
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Post by: bearpaw on February 28, 2015, 11:06:19 PM
Do you want to shoot a true west of I-5 Roosevelt ??
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:yeah: Roosevelts must be from west of I-5 to be recognized as roosevelt elk in B&C or P&Y.
Post by: RadSav on February 28, 2015, 11:41:57 PM
Do you want to shoot a true west of I-5 Roosevelt ??
:yeah: Roosevelts must be from west of I-5 to be recognized as roosevelt elk in B&C or P&Y.
Where does SCI draw the line?
Post by: Tbar on March 01, 2015, 12:00:48 AM
I believe SCI is west of I5 also.Do you want to shoot a true west of I-5 Roosevelt ??
:yeah: Roosevelts must be from west of I-5 to be recognized as roosevelt elk in B&C or P&Y.
Where does SCI draw the line?
Post by: alwinearcher on March 01, 2015, 12:29:15 AM
Were you at the Auction or bidding online? Usually at the auction there are guys lined up to help you once you win the tag...
I would say St Helans for sure ;)
Post by: RadSav on March 01, 2015, 01:23:30 AM
I would say St Helans for sure ;)
Yeah, St. Helens for sure!! :chuckle:
Post by: grundy53 on March 01, 2015, 06:27:52 AM
Post by: longwalker on March 01, 2015, 07:06:53 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 01, 2015, 07:13:24 AM
the kapowsin tree farm is the best trophy elk hunt on the west side of the state. if you spend 20 grand for a west side gov tag (wansnt sure there was one) spend another 350 bucks and hold out for a 380+ bull. if your an even half way decent hunter theres no reason you couldnt shoot a bull that caliber in there with 4 months to hunt it:yeah: Exactly what I would do.
Post by: jackelope on March 01, 2015, 07:19:16 AM
the kapowsin tree farm is the best trophy elk hunt on the west side of the state. if you spend 20 grand for a west side gov tag (wansnt sure there was one) spend another 350 bucks and hold out for a 380+ bull. if your an even half way decent hunter theres no reason you couldnt shoot a bull that caliber in there with 4 months to hunt it
As long as he's not concerned with the west of I-5 thing.
PS Washington tags are not technically what other states call Governors tags. Just auction tags.
Post by: longwalker on March 01, 2015, 07:23:02 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 01, 2015, 07:24:46 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 01, 2015, 07:26:50 AM
True, I forgot about the I-5 thing. But I wouldn't let that stop me, some of those bulls look 100% rosey to me. I have one on the wall that you would swear and I think it is 100% rosey that came west of I-5. But if he's worried about the record books then the kapowsin is out. Mabye he will get back on the site and explain a bit more?the kapowsin tree farm is the best trophy elk hunt on the west side of the state. if you spend 20 grand for a west side gov tag (wansnt sure there was one) spend another 350 bucks and hold out for a 380+ bull. if your an even half way decent hunter theres no reason you couldnt shoot a bull that caliber in there with 4 months to hunt it
As long as he's not concerned with the west of I-5 thing.
PS Washington tags are not technically what other states call Governors tags. Just auction tags.
Post by: jackelope on March 01, 2015, 07:32:53 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 01, 2015, 07:36:40 AM
I'm not sure it would stop me either but if you had a room full of big Bulls and wanted a big roosevelt to add to your collection or put in the books, what would you do? I'm sure he will be back. He bought the auction tag last night though. That's what he's saying. Paid $19k for it.19,000 seems like a bargain! Sure would be nice to have that tag, I'd have to take a leave of absence from work!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 01, 2015, 08:03:26 AM
Yes but if you want a true Roosevelt maybe you wouldn't be concerned with a 380 bull.....there are bulls bigger than 380 west of I5. I haven't seen any live ones, but there are some heads in houses/lodges and a some skulls/dropped antlers from bulls 380+. Not saying they are in great numbers. I think one at Lake Crescent is pushing 430.
Post by: link on March 01, 2015, 08:15:07 AM
By the way, anyone know if that guy happened to get one?
Post by: kentrek on March 01, 2015, 08:15:41 AM
If you can find a 350+ true Rosie genetic than your doing pretty good....you won't find that in the SW so it's going to be the NW areas...
Good luck to the op :tup:
Post by: Roosevelt on March 01, 2015, 09:36:39 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on March 01, 2015, 10:29:09 AM
If you need a hand skinning give me a call I have a great knife from rainshadow1, didn't realize I was up against such deep pockets, glad I won that auction.
Good luck and am looking forward to following along. Is this going to be the official thread to follow along?
Post by: longwalker on March 01, 2015, 10:57:02 AM
I'm pretty sure you're not going to hunt Hancock without drawing one of their permits. I suppose if you did by chance happen to draw, you'd also have to ask if they'd let you in there for the entire auction tag season. I read on here they did let the guy in there last year, each season, with the multi season tag, but that wasn't a continuous season.???
By the way, anyone know if that guy happened to get one?
according to there permit rules all game laws apply to the tree farm . since that tag lets you hunt from september to dec the only time you wouldnt be able to hunt in there ironically enough would be during elk season. the rest of the time on that tag is recognized by WDFW and since that is not a closed unit you would be able to hunt it. you would however have to buy the access permit.
Post by: nwhunter on March 01, 2015, 11:03:24 AM
Post by: 6haase6 on March 01, 2015, 11:07:38 AM
Post by: Roosevelt on March 01, 2015, 11:13:03 AM
I'm pretty sure you're not going to hunt Hancock without drawing one of their permits. I suppose if you did by chance happen to draw, you'd also have to ask if they'd let you in there for the entire auction tag season. I read on here they did let the guy in there last year, each season, with the multi season tag, but that wasn't a continuous season.???
By the way, anyone know if that guy happened to get one?
I agree. Even though he paid for the governor's westside tag I highly doubt Hancock would allow someone to hunt in there without drawing one of their permits. However, if he did by chance draw I'd assume they would allow the hunt.
BTW... congrats on the tag! Good luck!
Post by: longwalker on March 01, 2015, 11:20:33 AM
Post by: Roosevelt on March 01, 2015, 11:33:52 AM
well you guys are both wrong about that. for instance if you win the west side raffle tag you can hunt it in there, just have to buy the access permit and your locked out during elk season. its in there rules. when they say all fish and game laws apply it pertains to all fish and game laws. legally you can hunt elk in an open GMU from september to dec 31 with the raffle tag and the only thing you need to hunt in the kapowsin tree fram (GMU 654) is a 350$ access permit. its the only reason i bother buying the raffle tickets for west side elk every year
You're correct but it's up to Hancock to determine whether or not they will allow him to hunt. He could buy the access permit but if he doesn't draw the elk permit I doubt they would allow him to hunt elk. Just because he can hunt in any open GMU doesn't mean he can hunt Kapowsin without drawing one of their permits simply by purchasing an access permit.
Post by: longwalker on March 01, 2015, 11:41:29 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 01, 2015, 11:47:42 AM
Coastal Inlet Adventures out of BC has Roosevelt hunts along the BC coast that go for $25000. There has been a couple of Roosevelt bulls taken out of that area over 400 inches. The world record muzzleloader Roosevelt bull was taken there a few years back. There are a couple guys (whose names I won't say) out of the Shelton and Belfair area who have harvested a few of those bulls. As I understand it the genetics for those elk originate from the Olympic Peninsula and were transplanted to Vancouver Island and then those elk were transplanted from there to the BC coast.
How much of that $25k goes back to conservation and elk in Washington? At some point I imagine some folks will realize this isn't always about just killing a big bull.
Post by: grundy53 on March 01, 2015, 12:02:08 PM
Post by: longwalker on March 01, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
I think some folks don't really understand how the Kapowsin elk hunting works. They don't tell you you can hunt elk on their property. What they do is shut down their tree farm for access during the general elk seasons. When you win their drawing all you are actually winning is the opportunity to access the farm when it is shut down.
bingo. they don't own the elk and they cant regulate them. they regulate the access to there property and at that point have to abide by Washington state game laws
Post by: Roosevelt on March 01, 2015, 12:21:49 PM
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Post by: nailbender on March 02, 2015, 10:44:19 AM
Post by: RadSav on March 02, 2015, 12:45:04 PM
Post by: alwinearcher on March 03, 2015, 12:31:20 PM
After our last PM I think his wife may have taken his internet privileges away :chuckle:
Ya, this one went full circle awful fast! poor guy! :sry:
Post by: Firedogg on March 03, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 03, 2015, 01:12:57 PM
He wants a roosevelt, no need to bother any of the Hancock crown bulls.
:tup:
Post by: trophyhunt on March 03, 2015, 01:23:52 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 03, 2015, 01:34:58 PM
Good for him if he wants a true rosy, myself there is no way I would pass up hunting Bulls on the Hancock property with that tag! That tag in the Hancock is the best west side tag out there. Good luck and I hope he kills a pig! :tup:Is that the same area that was recently purchased by the Muckleshoot tribe?
Post by: Skillet on March 03, 2015, 01:37:08 PM
Good luck to the hunter - hoping to hear how it goes!!
Post by: Romulus1297 on March 03, 2015, 05:25:58 PM
suggestions. Thanks guys.
Post by: Rainier10 on March 03, 2015, 06:01:41 PM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on March 03, 2015, 06:05:48 PM