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Title: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: CP on March 03, 2015, 11:46:28 AM
I’m looking for good, inexpensive (under $1K) AR, any suggestions?
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Mfowl on March 03, 2015, 11:49:28 AM
Check out Gunbroker.com. You might do better than entry level for under $1k. :twocents:
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: luvmystang67 on March 03, 2015, 11:52:10 AM
Piece it together, save a ton.

Or just buy this, I'm sure it'd fulfill 99% of your needs.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18781/s/ptac-16-m4-1-7-rifle/category/4426/ (http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18781/s/ptac-16-m4-1-7-rifle/category/4426/)
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Special T on March 03, 2015, 12:05:08 PM
I think if you built your own you could get a good quality trigger and barrel and go cheeper on the rest. $1K will get you a bunch right now...  Ask Loki How his built went he did a budget build here recently...
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Jingles on March 03, 2015, 12:31:40 PM
I guess a lot of it will depend on what you are looking for
 Carbine w/ 16 inch barrel
Longer barrel?
Adjustable stock
A2 Stock

Yes I looked into doing a build and by the time I would of gotten everything together it would of cost the same if not more than I got the one I have coming.
Everyone says your can build one for less well as an example
Lower through a dealer in Wenatchee 225.00 then the parts kit another hundred $325.+
Then you start adding the cost upper and barrel together $600.+
Sub Total $925.+
then add your tax, FFL and dealer fees you're looking at a grand
IMO I could not see putting one together and being able to save any money over just purchasing a factory built at least not one with any quality. Oh I'm sure there are some out there that I could purchase for less than what I paid but probably like the one a friend got for around $500.00 then took back the next day because it was jamming big time.
I Shopped around and got the Stag Model 4 for $200+  under what Stag is advertising them for on their website if I'd of bought the lower and upper separate and put it together myself and almost $300 less than their Assembled Model 4.  I went with Stag for the name, style, lifetime warranty and guaranteed accuracy out of the box......
Sure I have to wait to get it but when I do it is coming from out of state and private sale.....
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 03, 2015, 12:46:14 PM
You can build really nice rifle for well under 1k. If you just want to buy one dpms and diamond back have some nice rifles in that range.

If you are looking for parts and decide to build one let me know. I stock everything to build Ar 15 rifles.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 03, 2015, 12:49:39 PM
Piece it together, save a ton.

Or just buy this, I'm sure it'd fulfill 99% of your needs.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18781/s/ptac-16-m4-1-7-rifle/category/4426/ (http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18781/s/ptac-16-m4-1-7-rifle/category/4426/)

If you're talking about the gun without the scope, $1K could get you a pretty nice build, far nicer than off the shelf will get you.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Jburke on March 04, 2015, 01:39:07 AM
I guess a lot of it will depend on what you are looking for
 Carbine w/ 16 inch barrel
Longer barrel?
Adjustable stock
A2 Stock

Yes I looked into doing a build and by the time I would of gotten everything together it would of cost the same if not more than I got the one I have coming.
Everyone says your can build one for less well as an example
Lower through a dealer in Wenatchee 225.00 then the parts kit another hundred $325.+
Then you start adding the cost upper and barrel together $600.+
Sub Total $925.+
then add your tax, FFL and dealer fees you're looking at a grand
IMO I could not see putting one together and being able to save any money over just purchasing a factory built at least not one with any quality. Oh I'm sure there are some out there that I could purchase for less than what I paid but probably like the one a friend got for around $500.00 then took back the next day because it was jamming big time.
I Shopped around and got the Stag Model 4 for $200+  under what Stag is advertising them for on their website if I'd of bought the lower and upper separate and put it together myself and almost $300 less than their Assembled Model 4.  I went with Stag for the name, style, lifetime warranty and guaranteed accuracy out of the box......
Sure I have to wait to get it but when I do it is coming from out of state and private sale.....

I agree that it really depends on what you want to do with it.  However the prices you were given to build one seem really high to me.  If you don't need it tomorrow and can be patient I think you could build a decent rifle and have a scope for around the 1K mark.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: grundy53 on March 04, 2015, 05:07:58 AM
I guess a lot of it will depend on what you are looking for
 Carbine w/ 16 inch barrel
Longer barrel?
Adjustable stock
A2 Stock

Yes I looked into doing a build and by the time I would of gotten everything together it would of cost the same if not more than I got the one I have coming.
Everyone says your can build one for less well as an example
Lower through a dealer in Wenatchee 225.00 then the parts kit another hundred $325.+
Then you start adding the cost upper and barrel together $600.+
Sub Total $925.+
then add your tax, FFL and dealer fees you're looking at a grand
IMO I could not see putting one together and being able to save any money over just purchasing a factory built at least not one with any quality. Oh I'm sure there are some out there that I could purchase for less than what I paid but probably like the one a friend got for around $500.00 then took back the next day because it was jamming big time.
I Shopped around and got the Stag Model 4 for $200+  under what Stag is advertising them for on their website if I'd of bought the lower and upper separate and put it together myself and almost $300 less than their Assembled Model 4.  I went with Stag for the name, style, lifetime warranty and guaranteed accuracy out of the box......
Sure I have to wait to get it but when I do it is coming from out of state and private sale.....
Those prices are really high. You shouldn't be paying over a hundred for a stripped lower and I would never pay a hundred for a lower parts kit.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: grundy53 on March 04, 2015, 05:11:49 AM
If you do decide to build let me know. There is a local store that is selling uppers for $59.99.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Bmcox86 on March 04, 2015, 05:22:19 AM
Which store is selling them for 59 I need to pick one up
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 04, 2015, 05:42:40 AM
Brownell's has been running ads for stripped lowers at 49.00. Check the banner adds on the right.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Special T on March 04, 2015, 06:35:59 AM
I think what really kills you is the freight on some of the "sale" items unless you buy a bunch of stuff to make it worth your while.

While searching for a buddies build I found a pretty good deal on a stock buffer tube spring and sling for $50 ish shipped.

Used you can normal find the hand guard and nut really cheep
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: TommyH on March 04, 2015, 08:00:05 AM
Tag
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 04, 2015, 08:08:17 AM
Rock River Arms....best one out there  :tup:
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on March 04, 2015, 08:38:09 AM
$225 for a stripped lower is highway robbery. The past one i bought was $60 out the door after tax.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: CP on March 04, 2015, 08:46:56 AM
Piece it together, save a ton.

Or just buy this, I'm sure it'd fulfill 99% of your needs.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18781/s/ptac-16-m4-1-7-rifle/category/4426/ (http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18781/s/ptac-16-m4-1-7-rifle/category/4426/)

That’s the cheapest AR that I’ve seen anywhere.  Thanks for that link. 
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: jjaba on March 04, 2015, 08:47:24 AM
If don't want to build I picked up a DPMS for under $700.  I like mine.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: luvmystang67 on March 04, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
Piece it together, save a ton.

Or just buy this, I'm sure it'd fulfill 99% of your needs.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18781/s/ptac-16-m4-1-7-rifle/category/4426/ (http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18781/s/ptac-16-m4-1-7-rifle/category/4426/)

That’s the cheapest AR that I’ve seen anywhere.  Thanks for that link. 


You are welcome.  I have a cheap one that I put together with a composite lower and a cheap DPMS upper, have $490 into the whole she-bang.  If you get parts sent to Sound Loan and Pawn in Everett, the guy there is super nice and only charges $15 for rifle transfers (and the tax hes obligated to collect).  I use that cheap setup almost all of the time, even though I have some real tack driver ARs.  It weighs next to nothing, I'm not afraid to hurt it (but so far I've tried and cant) and it still shoots about 1.5" groups at 100 yards and is my favorite Coyote/Cougar hiking weapon.

My $1800 24" bull barrel ar, with super nice two stage trigger etc sits right in the safe where I'm afraid to touch it.  I don't need to drive tacks, I need to shoot coyotes on the run.   :twocents:

Unless you're doing competition, I don't see any reason why you'd do anything else, unless you just want to impress your friends or prep for the apocalypse.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: grundy53 on March 04, 2015, 12:57:38 PM
Which store is selling them for 59 I need to pick one up
Precise Shooter in Seattle.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Bmcox86 on March 04, 2015, 01:42:08 PM
Thanks


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Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: grundy53 on March 04, 2015, 02:05:10 PM
No problem
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Jingles on March 04, 2015, 02:24:33 PM
Thanks for the offers from those that offered to help locate reasonable priced parts But I bought the bullet and purchased factory built Stag Model 4 at a considerable saving even over stag prices. Just have to wait for it to get here from out of state, Zero Tax, Zero Hassle
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: lokidog on March 04, 2015, 04:09:19 PM
I think if you built your own you could get a good quality trigger and barrel and go cheeper on the rest. $1K will get you a bunch right now...  Ask Loki How his built went he did a budget build here recently...

 :hello:

I think I stayed under $600 (adding in the additional cost of the gift of a stock and LPK that Captain Silver generouslyaffered me)  I've got a Green Mountain Barrel and a (hopefully) high end BCG.  A higher end trigger would add a couple hundred to this but would still be under your 1K and you get the fun of putting it together.  I am quite happy with the feel of my Stag Arms stock trigger, though I am certainly not a "high end" shooter.  Tools for assembly can run about $100, but if you are nice, you might get them loaned to you.  ;)

Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Bmcox86 on March 04, 2015, 04:37:01 PM
Thanks for the offers from those that offered to help locate reasonable priced parts But I bought the bullet and purchased factory built Stag Model 4 at a considerable saving even over stag prices. Just have to wait for it to get here from out of state, Zero Tax, Zero Hassle

Don't you have to pay tax when you pick it up from the FFL?
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: grundy53 on March 04, 2015, 06:59:45 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Jburke on March 05, 2015, 01:24:34 AM
Thanks for the offers from those that offered to help locate reasonable priced parts But I bought the bullet and purchased factory built Stag Model 4 at a considerable saving even over stag prices. Just have to wait for it to get here from out of state, Zero Tax, Zero Hassle
You will get hit with the tax when you pay the transfer fee at your FFL. 
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: bknilvr00 on March 05, 2015, 07:45:38 AM
I just got into the AR game myself. I was looking at building one, but I have too many projects going now, along with a newborn for the wife to give me the ok. I managed to get my hands on a Mossberg MMR hunter in 223. Paid like 725 after it was all said and done. Got a 3x9x40 on it for it along with 600 rounds of ammo for under 1000. Haven't had the chance to take it out yet, but so far I am super pleased with it.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 05, 2015, 08:05:02 AM
I've got a New Frontier plastic complete lower on my 204. I paid $110 for it. Plum Crazy plastic lowers are pretty good too. That's if you want to save some $$.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: luvmystang67 on March 05, 2015, 08:53:02 AM
I just got into the AR game myself. I was looking at building one, but I have too many projects going now, along with a newborn for the wife to give me the ok. I managed to get my hands on a Mossberg MMR hunter in 223. Paid like 725 after it was all said and done. Got a 3x9x40 on it for it along with 600 rounds of ammo for under 1000. Haven't had the chance to take it out yet, but so far I am super pleased with it.

Not to be a jerk... but if you haven't taken it out yet, what are you pleased with?
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Jingles on March 05, 2015, 09:16:21 AM
Thanks for the offers from those that offered to help locate reasonable priced parts But I bought the bullet and purchased factory built Stag Model 4 at a considerable saving even over stag prices. Just have to wait for it to get here from out of state, Zero Tax, Zero Hassle
You will get hit with the tax when you pay the transfer fee at your FFL.
Not gonna happen not using FFL
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: bknilvr00 on March 05, 2015, 09:36:20 AM
I just got into the AR game myself. I was looking at building one, but I have too many projects going now, along with a newborn for the wife to give me the ok. I managed to get my hands on a Mossberg MMR hunter in 223. Paid like 725 after it was all said and done. Got a 3x9x40 on it for it along with 600 rounds of ammo for under 1000. Haven't had the chance to take it out yet, but so far I am super pleased with it.

Not to be a jerk... but if you haven't taken it out yet, what are you pleased with?

The way it looks and feels as well as the price. Yes I haven't fired it yet, but it's an AR. It's the eleventy billionth variant of a platform that been around for 55 years. Like the 1911, the AR is at a point where the gun largely remains unchanged, because it works. Innovation at this point, is largely cosmetic.
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: h20hunter on March 05, 2015, 09:37:57 AM
I just got into the AR game myself. I was looking at building one, but I have too many projects going now, along with a newborn for the wife to give me the ok. I managed to get my hands on a Mossberg MMR hunter in 223. Paid like 725 after it was all said and done. Got a 3x9x40 on it for it along with 600 rounds of ammo for under 1000. Haven't had the chance to take it out yet, but so far I am super pleased with it.

Not to be a jerk... but if you haven't taken it out yet, what are you pleased with?


When that fiancee of yours pops out that baby you got cooking you will understand. Heck, with a newborn at home he is lucky to even have the darn thing let alone fire it!
Title: Re: Best entry level AR15?
Post by: Biggerhammer on March 05, 2015, 10:36:10 AM
I just got into the AR game myself. I was looking at building one, but I have too many projects going now, along with a newborn for the wife to give me the ok. I managed to get my hands on a Mossberg MMR hunter in 223. Paid like 725 after it was all said and done. Got a 3x9x40 on it for it along with 600 rounds of ammo for under 1000. Haven't had the chance to take it out yet, but so far I am super pleased with it.

Not to be a jerk... but if you haven't taken it out yet, what are you pleased with?


When that fiancee of yours pops out that baby you got cooking you will understand. Heck, with a newborn at home he is lucky to even have the darn thing let alone fire it!

Haha!
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