Post by: Fishaholic on March 04, 2015, 07:15:34 PM
Post by: hogslayer on March 04, 2015, 07:24:06 PM
Post by: kentrek on March 04, 2015, 07:32:37 PM
I don't reuse em tho....too picky I guess
Lots of confidence in these heads....i would like to potentally swap to rads tho just to support a local group.
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 04, 2015, 07:41:44 PM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 04, 2015, 07:44:35 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 04, 2015, 07:48:17 PM
Post by: Weehunt66 on March 04, 2015, 07:53:40 PM
Post by: whackmaster on March 04, 2015, 07:54:08 PM
Haha i've been waiting to use this.
:chuckle:
Post by: jrebel on March 04, 2015, 07:58:55 PM
For the original question.....
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Post by: Nice Racks on March 04, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
Post by: coachcw on March 04, 2015, 08:23:50 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 04, 2015, 08:46:09 PM
I assume 500 spine not grain?? Why such a light spine? What poundage are you shooting and how long is your arrow? If my assumption is wrong and your arrow is 500 grains...then why such a light broadhead?i was thinking he meant total arrow weight point included.
For the original question.....
IlikeLOVE my slick tricks. I shoot the standard 125's but they also make the 100's.
Post by: ridgefire on March 04, 2015, 08:53:41 PM
Post by: Crunchy on March 04, 2015, 09:01:25 PM
Post by: str8meat on March 05, 2015, 05:18:20 AM
Post by: nalley112 on March 05, 2015, 09:47:34 AM
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 05, 2015, 09:58:12 AM
90yards :yike: :archery_smiley:
I give a lot of credit to the bowtech on that kill.
Post by: BABackcountryBwhntr on March 05, 2015, 10:01:27 AM
Post by: scottcrb on March 05, 2015, 10:12:21 AM
I have a nice collection with slicktricks that all look good as new...minus the blood ;)
I don't reuse em tho....too picky I guess
Lots of confidence in these heads....i would like to potentally swap to rads tho just to support a local group.
:yeah:
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 05, 2015, 10:18:53 AM
Post by: Fishaholic on March 07, 2015, 01:19:44 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 07, 2015, 02:48:30 PM
you're making it worse Now. I know a bowtech cant shoot 90 yards.90yards :yike: :archery_smiley:
I give a lot of credit to the bowtech on that kill.
Post by: hogslayer on March 07, 2015, 04:25:44 PM
I'm shooting a Easton xx75 gamegetter. it. says 2016 components. make in usa then 500.. is there a advantage shooting 125 grain broadheads over shooting 100 grain ?
It puts more weight in the front of your arrow for hitting energy. I would check your FOC and all that stuff if I was going with 125 grain it would be with a heavy arrow drawing a lot of weight.
Post by: Fishaholic on March 07, 2015, 04:35:21 PM
I'm shooting a Easton xx75 gamegetter. it. says 2016 components. make in usa then 500.. is there a advantage shooting 125 grain broadheads over shooting 100 grain ?
It puts more weight in the front of your arrow for hitting energy. I would check your FOC and all that stuff if I was going with 125 grain it would be with a heavy arrow drawing a lot of weight.
Foc?
Post by: buglebrush on March 07, 2015, 05:35:19 PM
Shuttle T kill, and fly excellent, but I agree that they leave very poor blood trails. Almost cost us two build the last two years.
Slick Tricks for me. :)
Post by: hogslayer on March 07, 2015, 06:00:36 PM
Post by: Fishaholic on March 07, 2015, 06:29:16 PM
Post by: Smossy on March 07, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on March 08, 2015, 01:34:24 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 08, 2015, 02:22:53 PM
When they arrive my brother and I will be flying back to our New Jersey facility to oversee the production of all three MadMan blades. I am SUPER excited about this! Savora's legacy has been it's unmatched blade sharpness. It is the reason I bought the company in the first place. Now 20 years after the last perfect hunting blade the legendary sharpness should be back. It is such good news I might even bring back the Carbon blade option for 2016!
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on March 08, 2015, 03:40:30 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 08, 2015, 05:20:11 PM
I gotta try these :tup: My theory right or wrong is that aside from making a good shot, BH sharpness is the biggest single thing a bowhunter can do to kill more efficiently. I have been sold on g5 Stryker for several years simply due to sharpness and blade availability. Gonna have to give these new savoras a try.
Right now I think Stryker has the best blade on the market. Ferrule tolerances can lead to some big gaps in fit and flight, but no question they are a good blade. If I wasn't shooting my own stuff the Stryker would likely be my head of choice.
Post by: Smossy on March 08, 2015, 06:34:59 PM
We have finally found success getting the old grinding wheel manufacture to make the original Savora grinding wheels!!! :IBCOOL: Minimum quantity works out to be about a ten year supply, but we are just happy they have agreed. Six to nine weeks for production means they should be ready by the time we get the blade die modifications completed. This should once again put Savora on top of the sharpest broadheads in the industry list. Three years and a lot of restless nights trying to get this deal done. If they don't fly apart like the last ones :o we should be celebrating soon!Holy crap, seriously? Score!
When they arrive my brother and I will be flying back to our New Jersey facility to oversee the production of all three MadMan blades. I am SUPER excited about this! Savora's legacy has been it's unmatched blade sharpness. It is the reason I bought the company in the first place. Now 20 years after the last perfect hunting blade the legendary sharpness should be back. It is such good news I might even bring back the Carbon blade option for 2016!
Congrats man glad to see you on a happy streak for a change. Looking forward to shooting more Savora's :tup:
At this pace, Savora's will literally be the only heads I've ever shot and killed anything with. :chuckle:
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 08, 2015, 07:35:56 PM
We have finally found success getting the old grinding wheel manufacture to make the original Savora grinding wheels!!! :IBCOOL: Minimum quantity works out to be about a ten year supply, but we are just happy they have agreed. Six to nine weeks for production means they should be ready by the time we get the blade die modifications completed. This should once again put Savora on top of the sharpest broadheads in the industry list. Three years and a lot of restless nights trying to get this deal done. If they don't fly apart like the last ones :o we should be celebrating soon!good news for Radsav congratulations. Happy to see things going right for you. After all the help you offer the rest of us on hunt wa you deserve it.
When they arrive my brother and I will be flying back to our New Jersey facility to oversee the production of all three MadMan blades. I am SUPER excited about this! Savora's legacy has been it's unmatched blade sharpness. It is the reason I bought the company in the first place. Now 20 years after the last perfect hunting blade the legendary sharpness should be back. It is such good news I might even bring back the Carbon blade option for 2016!
Post by: gonehuntin68 on March 08, 2015, 08:16:10 PM
Post by: huntnnw on March 08, 2015, 09:51:56 PM
Post by: bowtechian on March 09, 2015, 09:50:38 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 10, 2015, 01:02:40 AM
Go onto goldtip web site they have a calculator for your arrow weight & foc I just found out my bowshop had me set up for more of a target shooting instead of hunting so luckily all I have to do is switch to a 125 broadhead
I had a long talk today with one of the industries better hunters. We both agreed that todays archer has finally gotten over the "Sacrifice everything for speed!" mentality and is finally trying to be a more productive hunter. That means the 125 grain, which was almost dead ten or even five years ago, is on it's way back to popularity. The 145 grain head might even make a come back at this rate. It is really a good thing to see!
We have been making a very concentrated effort to design a good number of heads for 2016 in the 125 grain weight class. It's a little difficult in these new super short ferrules, but we are working on it. We do have a successful 125 grain titanium now in the works. And should have at least two more for testing before deer and elk seasons kick off.
I'm glad to see you are getting your arrows balanced and all-weather ready bowtechian. I think you will enjoy the result! It really is an amazing thing to see when that FOC hits 12%. Before he passed away Doug Walker wanted me to write a new article called "The unstoppable 12% arrow" for the magazine. While I could not find the time to write it I really did like the idea of the title. Because it does seem to make the arrow follow an almost unstoppable path to the target! Good luck to you :tup:
Post by: bowtechian on March 10, 2015, 02:05:27 AM
Post by: RadSav on March 10, 2015, 03:26:48 AM
I started pulling up older articles written by Terry wunderle then not sure if it was one of his write ups but seen one on kinetic v.s. speed so it got me curious & found out that my foc was only 8.9% so time for a change
Kinetic energy is much of a false hood in bowhunting North American animals. While it does play a role it is not the gospel as many preach. The way in which an arrow sheds or looses it's energy is much more important in the grand scheme of things. Think if we could eliminate 100% of all friction imparted upon a hunting arrow head. How much kinetic energy would we then need to shoot through a tree?
We are not dumping energy into the target as we would with a bullet. The arrow kills by slicing vessels, collapsing the lungs and ultimately robbing the brain of blood and oxygen. Does a faster arrow cut vessels more efficiently? Yes! Do two holes in the chest from a deeper penetrating arrow collapse the lungs faster than a single hole? Yes! Does a sharp broadhead prolong coagulation, cut more freely and reduce energy robbing drag as it passes through the target more so than a dull broadhead? Yes! Are their situations where over penetration prevents a marginal shot from becoming a quick death? Yes! So as the questions get asked and the answers revealed, with an open mind, we begin to realize the holy gospel of kinetic energy is not the whole almighty word the religion of KE promises.
Kenetic energy will always be an important ingredient in a proper recipe of success as long as the laws of friction remain fact. That is a given. But a cake needs more than sugar before it becomes palatable. All the ingredients need to work together. They are all interrelated to some degree. And our end game as hunters and bakers of success is to maintain the proper balance of all the ingredients. For too much of any one thing may very well destroy our result. And what hunter hungers for a feast without the pleasure of success's desert?
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 10, 2015, 05:56:39 AM
And question number two, do you ever sleep? :dunno:
In seriousness though, it is always refreshing to get your take on such matters. I think we need a RadSav, MLBowunting & Whackmaster interview thread in "Bowhunting" and make it a sticky. :tup:
Post by: RadSav on March 10, 2015, 06:35:33 AM
Hey Rad, do you ever give a short simple answer? :chuckle:
And question number two, do you ever sleep? :dunno:
Yes! :chuckle:
16 hours of taxes is about all I can handle in one sitting. I'm headed to bed now to get my four before falling into more tax paperwork. I may not have built this, but I'm sure paying for Obama to build something >:(
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 10, 2015, 06:37:52 AM
Sliced my finger on a Savora blade last night. As ODH would say, "DEM SHARP!"
Post by: RadSav on March 10, 2015, 06:42:36 AM
Have a good "evening" Rad. The rest of us are heading TO work. :chuckle:
Sliced my finger on a Savora blade last night. As ODH would say, "DEM SHARP!"
Just wait for round two of blade production! Should be so sharp it won't even hurt :chuckle:
Once we get the assembly video completed it will teach you how to make sure cutting yourself is a thing of the past. Key is to never turn or twist the broadhead. Turn arrow only!! Screw the arrow onto the broadhead. Never screw the broadhead on to the arrow! 35 years of bowhunting and I've never cut myself with a broadhead that wasn't stuck in an animal. And I've handled A LOT of sharp broadheads. Video should explain it well, I hope. That and just a few more tweeks and the website is complete.
Post by: Jonathan_S on March 10, 2015, 07:42:52 AM
Post by: Encore 280 on March 10, 2015, 09:07:43 AM
Post by: bowtechian on March 10, 2015, 02:30:29 PM
Post by: nanserbe on March 11, 2015, 11:09:40 AM
It would help if you can let us know your bow, year, draw length, draw weight, and arrow length. We can recommend off that.
If it turns out you do need new arrows, I'd recommend something made of carbon fiber, unless you're set on using aluminum. Carbon is a lot more forgiving than aluminum, in my opinion.
Here is the calculator for FOC http://www.goldtip.com/calculators.aspx (http://www.goldtip.com/calculators.aspx)
Post by: coachcw on March 14, 2015, 09:09:39 AM
Post by: goody31 on March 14, 2015, 08:08:08 PM
Post by: RadSav on March 14, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
Also, a package is on it's way to most of the local shops that also carry RAD peep sights. There was a delay in getting them out to the local guys because we had more orders to fill from the shows than I expected. This next week they should be in the majority of WA stores. Sportsman's Warehouse will be stocking a few this year as well, but I do not yet know when those will ship.
Post by: 92xj on March 14, 2015, 08:47:11 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 14, 2015, 09:00:44 PM
Carpsniper has some and is expected a new batch of stock this coming week. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,169423.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,169423.0.html)more orders than expected is a good thing.
Also, a package is on it's way to most of the local shops that also carry RAD peep sights. There was a delay in getting them out to the local guys because we had more orders to fill from the shows than I expected. This next week they should be in the majority of WA stores. Sportsman's Warehouse will be stocking a few this year as well, but I do not yet know when those will ship.
Post by: RadSav on March 14, 2015, 09:48:23 PM
Will the tricities sportsmans be getting any?
I believe all Sportsman's Warehouse stores will be receiving some. What models and how much I do not know yet.
Post by: Smossy on March 16, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
That's great new's! My favorite store right there.Will the tricities sportsmans be getting any?
I believe all Sportsman's Warehouse stores will be receiving some. What models and how much I do not know yet.
I forgot to put my order in this week with carpsniper :bash: Maybe Ill just wait and pick them up at SW when they come out. Ill just use my oldschool Savora's until then.
Post by: Todd_ID on March 16, 2015, 01:10:37 PM
Your money is much better spent at a local guy versus a national store.That's great new's! My favorite store right there.Will the tricities sportsmans be getting any?
I believe all Sportsman's Warehouse stores will be receiving some. What models and how much I do not know yet.
I forgot to put my order in this week with carpsniper :bash: Maybe Ill just wait and pick them up at SW when they come out. Ill just use my oldschool Savora's until then.