Post by: jjhunter on March 15, 2015, 05:50:29 PM
I don't have a ton of backpacking experience so asking advice from the experts...
I am looking for the best 3 season,1 man tent out there. By "best" I mean lightest/most durable.
I am also looking for the best 10/15 degree bag out there. By "best", I mean lightest/highest performing.
- Looking at Western Mountaineering Versalite
- Looking at KUIU
Cost is not a factor. I want to go as light as possible while maintaining durability/performance. I plan on keeping these items for several seasons.
Thanks,
JJ
Post by: whacker1 on March 15, 2015, 05:55:04 PM
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Post by: Bmcox86 on March 15, 2015, 06:26:41 PM
Englightened equipment down quilt, I have the revolution. Lightest and great option. But you have to pair it with a good pad for it to work.
Post by: romaknows on March 15, 2015, 06:52:47 PM
As for bags I have a marrmot helium that has also been great, but I have been wanting to try out a quilt .
Post by: jjhunter on March 15, 2015, 07:01:43 PM
Do you use yours open or like a bag? Is the pad still required if you use it like a bag?
I like my head covered so I would probably get a long for another 1.5 oz?
Post by: kentrek on March 15, 2015, 07:15:50 PM
the best is shelter is going to be different from area to area...conditions to conditions
Some settings the hill burg would be awesome..other settings it's just not needed
7 times of ten a tarp is probably the best tent
For sleeping bags look at Zackpacks or kuiu
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on March 15, 2015, 07:18:36 PM
'On year two using a Mountain Hardwear spectre 20 degree bag. I mainly chose this bag for the Dry.Q Elite fabric and Q.Shield down as I like to go without a tent or bivy on extended backcountry hunts. Small light tarp if rain/snow is forecasted.
I would buy another.
http://www.mountainhardwear.com/spectre-long-OT8518.html?cgid=equipment-sleepingBags-5to20&dwvar_OT8518_variationColor=451#start=18' (http://www.mountainhardwear.com/spectre-long-OT8518.html?cgid=equipment-sleepingBags-5to20&dwvar_OT8518_variationColor=451#start=18')
Post by: CementFinisher on March 15, 2015, 07:18:59 PM
In a bag, are you expecting dry conditions, damp, very wet? fit vs weight?
Post by: huntnphool on March 15, 2015, 07:24:10 PM
Depends on a lot. du you want out of a tent. Do you want a floor? the floor attached to the tent body? Inner mesh liner for insects? just a rain fly? rain fly and ground cloth?
In a bag, are you expecting dry conditions, damp, very wet? fit vs weight?
Recommendations for all of the above? :chuckle:
Post by: longwalker on March 15, 2015, 07:26:47 PM
http://www.zpacks.com/shelter/duplex.shtml (http://www.zpacks.com/shelter/duplex.shtml)
What I'm running for a quilt
http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/enigma-pro/ (http://www.enlightenedequipment.com/enigma-pro/)
Add in my neo xlite,Kifaru 5 string stuff sack and I'm at 3# 14oz for a sleep system
Post by: jjhunter on March 15, 2015, 07:27:44 PM
Post by: longwalker on March 15, 2015, 07:38:20 PM
Post by: jackelope on March 15, 2015, 07:56:10 PM
Post by: danderson on March 15, 2015, 07:58:37 PM
Post by: jjhunter on March 15, 2015, 08:04:26 PM
Take a loo at the link I posted . It's a hard shelter to beat
Do you set yours up with trekking poles?
Post by: longwalker on March 15, 2015, 08:14:14 PM
Post by: Bmcox86 on March 15, 2015, 08:14:57 PM
Looks like the quilt is the way to fly!
Do you use yours open or like a bag? Is the pad still required if you use it like a bag?
I like my head covered so I would probably get a long for another 1.5 oz?
Pads still required if you use it like a bag, i always sleep bad in a sleeping bag so I got the quilt, mine has a foot box that I keep zippered up and I have a thermarest xtherm pad. A long would cover your head or you could wear a beanie to keep your head warm.
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on March 15, 2015, 08:20:46 PM
Have you thought about a pad?
There are a few quality options out there, but I can tell you I've been running the marmot helium in a bivy setup for three seasons now and been very happy!
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Post by: PacificNWhunter on March 15, 2015, 08:33:13 PM
Post by: CementFinisher on March 15, 2015, 08:40:19 PM
bags- if you pan on mostly dry or snow conditions then Feathered Friends Ibis EX 0
very wet rainy conditions- Mountain Hardwear HyperLamina Torch
No not the most light gear bug, gives versatility and comfort at a lower weight
Post by: The scout on March 15, 2015, 08:57:24 PM
Post by: pope on March 15, 2015, 09:14:53 PM
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Post by: X-Force on March 15, 2015, 09:32:08 PM
Good luck. Post up what you end up picking out!
Post by: j_h_nimrod on March 15, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
Be sure to check out gear designed for alpine climbing. Although very pricey, these products are designed to withstand conditions you'll never encounter on an elk hunt, but somehow are engineered to be incredibly light weight. I was going to recommend Bibler tents, but I see they've been bought out by Black Diamond (formerly Chouinard). Black Diamond equipment is designed and tested by some of the world's most demanding alpine climbers, and this has been true for decades. I'm also a fan of Marmot bags, but as has been suggested, you'll have to make your decisions based on the conditions you expect to encounter. For example, I wouldn't purchase a down bag for a hunt west of the crest, and for solo excursions, I would want both a light-weight tent for foul weather and also a reliable bivouac sack for when the weather cooperates and I don't want to carry a tent.
When I started light hunting about 20 years ago the mountaineering gear was the only real option. Bibler, Black Diamond, The North Face, Mountain Hardware, Sierra Designs, and all the others still in production or not we're the go to. The hardest thing was finding colors that were not eye shattering.
There are so many options available now that it is more of a "what floats your boat" then otherwise.
I have actually started going with a hammock and tarp for many of my hunts. There have been a lot of places where I could stretch the hammock and sleep comfortable instead of finding a semi-flat rocky shelf to bivy on. Not always perfect, but easier to throw a pad on flat ground without trees then pitch a tent on a rock. Most places I am in have trees so a hammock works great. Sleeping bag, tarp, hammock, and pad run right around 6 pounds.
My bag is a Marmot 20 degree that, with warm clothes, I have used down close to 0. Not real comfortable, but I didn't have a tendancy to sleep in :)
I have also run a bivy and tarp.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 15, 2015, 10:14:11 PM
Post by: ridgefire on March 16, 2015, 07:38:52 AM
Post by: jjhunter on March 16, 2015, 10:41:12 AM
Tent - I am now more confused than ever. :chuckle:
Pad - Neoair XLight
Appreciate all of the feedback!
Post by: jjhunter on March 16, 2015, 10:42:23 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 16, 2015, 10:56:11 AM
Does anyone know if KUIU is going to make any more tents?
I wouldn't worry about that.
Post by: jackelope on March 16, 2015, 11:00:21 AM
Bag is narrowed down to the KUIU or an EE quilt.
Tent - I am now more confused than ever. :chuckle:
Pad - Neoair XLight
Appreciate all of the feedback!
Tent...
1-Do you want the tent freestanding? As in you don't have to put stakes in the ground?
2-Tent poles vs. Trekking poles. You either leave the poles and tent set up and forego using poles while hunting or take the poles out to use and re pitch the tent when you're done.
Sound like you already know you're not interested in floorless. Most free standing double wall tents you can run just the fly if you decide you want to go ultralight and floorless.
Post by: Miles on March 16, 2015, 11:04:46 AM
Post by: jackelope on March 16, 2015, 01:39:11 PM
http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Backpacking-Tent-Reviews (http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Backpacking-Tent-Reviews)
And the ultralights…
http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Ultralight-Tent-Reviews (http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/Ultralight-Tent-Reviews)
Post by: CementFinisher on March 16, 2015, 03:12:43 PM
or klymit Inertia X-Lite 6.1 oz
Post by: blackpowderhunter on March 16, 2015, 09:52:50 PM
I am picking up an MSR hubba hubba nx this year to replace my current tent.
I was looking at a lot of the big agnes tents, BUT what kept me away was how 1. the tent narrows at one end (will be mostly used with 2 people) and 2. how the walls kind of collapse in as you get down towards the foot end. I tried getting in one and it just felt CRAMPED. The MSR hubba hubba nx has very vertical walls and has a rectangular floor. at just over 3 lbs should do quite well for what I need. It also uses quite a bit more durable materials (in design at least) than the big anges tents.
but as many have said, it really depends on the climate you will be using it in, which will determine if you want to use a single wall (such as the tarp tent set ups) or a double wall (more standard such as the big agnes, MSR, rei brand tents)
hope that helps
Post by: hogslayer on March 16, 2015, 10:14:01 PM
Post by: 7mag. on March 16, 2015, 11:48:01 PM
I was looking into getting a EE quilt myself. After reading a ton of reviews and putting my own experience with down into the mix i backed out of it. To me if something sounds to good to be true it most likely is. I can see where a quilt would be really nice, but living in Washington where we get a lot of rain i wouldn't want to risk getting the down wet. It could get wet from a tent or condensation dripping off from the inside. Either way, i know that if down gets wet, it's worthless. I am going to stick with my synthetic bag. Feel free to correct me if someone has used one for a few season's.
I haven't had a problem with my down EE quilt. I take the necessary precautions to keep it dry, it's not very difficult. If you're still not sold on down, EE makes synthetic quilts as well.
Post by: j_h_nimrod on March 17, 2015, 12:18:40 AM
Tents are like boats... it all depends on what you want to do with them. I have a hammock and tarp, a big agnes two person, and a golite sl-5. If money isn't a factor, get a couple different setups. Oh and floors... they also hold water in.
Exactly! I have a bivy, (1) one man tent, (2) 2-man tents, (1) 2.5 man tent, (2) 3-man tents, a 10'x10' canvas wall tent, and a 16'x12' canvas wall tent.
I also lived in SE Alaska for 15 years and had only one friend use a down bag with success. Where I lived and hunted makes any place in WA look downright dry or only moderately damp. Being here (on the east side) I have went with down for weight and compactness. I still worry that it will get wet and I will be sleeping soggy and cold. The best thing with synthetic bags is that you can usually go to sleep wet and wake warm and dry. Again, it depends on where I plan to hunt. If I am road based I will have a comfy tent and synthetic bag, but if I head out it is down and a minimal shelter.
Post by: longwalker on March 17, 2015, 05:02:28 AM
I was looking into getting a EE quilt myself. After reading a ton of reviews and putting my own experience with down into the mix i backed out of it. To me if something sounds to good to be true it most likely is. I can see where a quilt would be really nice, but living in Washington where we get a lot of rain i wouldn't want to risk getting the down wet. It could get wet from a tent or condensation dripping off from the inside. Either way, i know that if down gets wet, it's worthless. I am going to stick with my synthetic bag. Feel free to correct me if someone has used one for a few season's.
You shouldn't really make comments or give advice without first hand experiance. I've slept quite warm in my down quilt after getting wet. Don't just blindly believe every thing you read on the internet. I hunt and live on The west side and I use down exclusivly. I've used EE quilts for several seasons now and taken them through some
Of the worst rainstorms I've ever been in
Post by: pope on March 17, 2015, 05:17:54 AM
Post by: longwalker on March 17, 2015, 05:43:31 AM
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on March 17, 2015, 05:56:13 AM
Concerning down, I've got pretty close to 75 nights in my current down bag. Always in a floorless tent with a waterproof bivy.
I keep my entire sleep system in a dry sack while hiking.
I've been in multiple rainstorms and downfalls. Never once has getting my bag wet been an issue..
As others have said, take common sense precautions and its a total non issue.
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Post by: xXLojackXx on March 17, 2015, 07:41:34 AM
For a floor less shelter, it's a Kifaru Mega Tarp, annex, and medium stove (if mid to late season).
Lots of people make good bags. Just get one that has at least 850 fill treated down and you'll be alright. My Marmot Hydrogen 30 Long weighs 1lb 12oz and packs down to the size of a grapefruit. Haven't had a complaint yet.
Post by: jackelope on March 17, 2015, 08:08:31 AM
Here's a good example of down getting wet
:chuckle:
Post by: cutmymango on March 17, 2015, 01:18:02 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on March 17, 2015, 03:55:52 PM
something like an rei halfdome and montbell or ee bag. learn if you sleep cold or warm. decide if maybe you do want to try floorless. or you dont mind packing extra weight for a little more space.
Post by: Netminder01 on March 17, 2015, 04:32:10 PM
There are some great threads on here (as others mentioned) on packing light. A good exercise you might consider is to assemble your pack list and weigh everything - I mean everything. Then read through some of the helpful threads on Hunt WA and also alpine or light pack lists. Micro decisions like cutting your toothbrush in a 1/3 and the containers which we might just include in a camping trip add up. Once you refine your packing list weigh again and you'll see how much effort you just saved yourself.
It's also worth thinking through different scenarios to help inform your packing order and how you might get to specific gear quickly. Imagine getting into your camp site at 9pm after being rained/snowed on all day, cold fingers and tired but also needing to get to specific gear efficiently; mostly heat/fire, dry cloths, shelter & first aid kid, etc. For me, the accessibility to core items is nearly as important as managing pack weight.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 17, 2015, 05:49:29 PM
So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather? September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out. How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?
Post by: coachcw on March 17, 2015, 05:58:01 PM
My interest in quilts has really increased. I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel. I hate foam pads! If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck! Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work! I've tried em all :chuckle:! I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts.Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .
So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather? September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out. How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?
Post by: jackelope on March 17, 2015, 05:59:10 PM
My interest in quilts has really increased. I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel. I hate foam pads! If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck! Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work! I've tried em all :chuckle:! I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts.Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .
So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather? September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out. How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?
That's what beanies are for.
Post by: jjhunter on March 17, 2015, 06:01:38 PM
I probably won't decide what to buy until I actually hit "send" on the order.
This thread has helped immensely! Thanks!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 17, 2015, 06:05:10 PM
I already wear one of those :chuckle: I'm more concerned about my skinny ass freezing to death because my back is laying on a 10 degree air pad :chuckle:My interest in quilts has really increased. I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel. I hate foam pads! If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck! Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work! I've tried em all :chuckle:! I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts.Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .
So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather? September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out. How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?
That's what beanies are for.
Post by: xXLojackXx on March 17, 2015, 06:26:56 PM
I already wear one of those :chuckle: I'm more concerned about my skinny ass freezing to death because my back is laying on a 10 degree air pad :chuckle:My interest in quilts has really increased. I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel. I hate foam pads! If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck! Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work! I've tried em all :chuckle:! I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts.Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .
So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather? September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out. How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?
That's what beanies are for.
Start eating DQ Blizzards and Big Macs. You'll be insulated by November.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 17, 2015, 06:30:13 PM
:chuckle: I'm one of those run, lift, run some more, eat whatever I want and don't gain an ounce kind of guys :chuckle:I already wear one of those :chuckle: I'm more concerned about my skinny ass freezing to death because my back is laying on a 10 degree air pad :chuckle:My interest in quilts has really increased. I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel. I hate foam pads! If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck! Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work! I've tried em all :chuckle:! I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts.Dude you just need one of rt's dead man mattresses ! atleast a good bag you can zip into those quilts though cool look as though your head would get cold.. that's something us baldys have to worry about .
So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather? September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out. How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?
That's what beanies are for.
Start eating DQ Blizzards and Big Macs. You'll be insulated by November.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 17, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
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Post by: coachcw on March 17, 2015, 07:10:09 PM
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 17, 2015, 07:22:08 PM
:yeah: :drool: I wish they still carried nerds... :bash::yeah: screw the blizzard! Who is up for a chocolate shake from whistlin jacks!?!?!?!?! :EAT: :EAT:
Post by: coachcw on March 17, 2015, 07:26:00 PM
Post by: hogslayer on March 17, 2015, 08:49:06 PM
I think I am just gonna get a 0* and if it ends up not being warm enough then I will have a nice, light, September, early october quilt. At 25oz, thats still a darn light early season bag.If you are looking at the Enlightened Equipment quilts, check there garage sale section. Just checked and they have a regular width, regular length 0 degree back for a little less than normal cost.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 17, 2015, 09:09:40 PM
thanks for the heads up :tup:I think I am just gonna get a 0* and if it ends up not being warm enough then I will have a nice, light, September, early october quilt. At 25oz, thats still a darn light early season bag.If you are looking at the Enlightened Equipment quilts, check there garage sale section. Just checked and they have a regular width, regular length 0 degree back for a little less than normal cost.
Post by: whacker1 on March 18, 2015, 05:55:00 AM
For those that are into the Enlightened Equipment and similar down Quilts: can you explain what you give up in comparison to the similar quality down mummy bags, such as the: Marmot 0 degree or Mountain Hardwear Phantom Down 0 degree down mummy bags.
I am specifically looking at 10,000 feet in Elevation in Montana, colorado, Utah at the end of October & Early November, where you plan for 0 degrees, but could easily drop to -15
I see the gains are weight savings by about 1 lb or more over the down mummy bags, but I saw that none of them were rated below 20 degrees. So, is there a product to handle these low temps or down i need to stick with the mummy bags?
Post by: longwalker on March 18, 2015, 06:36:54 AM
Post by: Stein on March 18, 2015, 10:16:49 AM
My interest in quilts has really increased. I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel. I hate foam pads! If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck! Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work! I've tried em all :chuckle:! I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts.
So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather? September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out. How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?
I use a quilt and the Q core for early rifle hunts in Montana. From my experience, add about 10-20 degrees to the rated temperature for comfort. I usually sleep in my clothes if it gets a bit colder.
Another option is to use the mummy like a quilt. I have a down gore tex bag that I take if it gets colder.
When I hunt, I am often dehydrated, underfed and overworked and sleep colder. When hiking, I am almost always in better shape and tend to sleep warmer.
Post by: 7mag. on March 18, 2015, 09:13:10 PM
Post by: Miles on March 19, 2015, 05:13:33 AM
I feel that I haven't given anything up switching from a mummy bag to a quilt. I gained comfort, warmth, and weight savings. I almost always use a bivy, mostly to help keep my quilt clean and dry, and to help stop any drafts I may cause tossing and turning. Most importantly, I use a good, warm, comfortable pad. For the last few years I've been using a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core, but I recently switched to an Exped Downmat UL7. I have only used it a few times, but so far, I love it.
What is the weight for the quilt and bivy that you are using?
Post by: 7mag. on March 19, 2015, 08:41:56 AM
I feel that I haven't given anything up switching from a mummy bag to a quilt. I gained comfort, warmth, and weight savings. I almost always use a bivy, mostly to help keep my quilt clean and dry, and to help stop any drafts I may cause tossing and turning. Most importantly, I use a good, warm, comfortable pad. For the last few years I've been using a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core, but I recently switched to an Exped Downmat UL7. I have only used it a few times, but so far, I love it.
What is the weight for the quilt and bivy that you are using?
My 10° quilt is 22.7 oz, and my bivy, I believe, is 9oz.
Post by: floatinghat on March 19, 2015, 09:22:31 PM
Feathered Friends 900fill either one of the UL 20's or 10' for a bag. Get a vapor barrier.
For a tent what are the worst conditions you expect?
Post by: floatinghat on March 19, 2015, 09:23:19 PM
Feathered Friends 900fill either one of the UL 20's or 10' for a bag, get a vapor barrier just in case.
For a tent what are the worst conditions you expect?
Post by: Instinct on March 20, 2015, 07:00:21 AM
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Post by: hogslayer on March 31, 2015, 12:42:59 PM
I was looking into getting a EE quilt myself. After reading a ton of reviews and putting my own experience with down into the mix i backed out of it. To me if something sounds to good to be true it most likely is. I can see where a quilt would be really nice, but living in Washington where we get a lot of rain i wouldn't want to risk getting the down wet. It could get wet from a tent or condensation dripping off from the inside. Either way, i know that if down gets wet, it's worthless. I am going to stick with my synthetic bag. Feel free to correct me if someone has used one for a few season's.
You shouldn't really make comments or give advice without first hand experiance. I've slept quite warm in my down quilt after getting wet. Don't just blindly believe every thing you read on the internet. I hunt and live on The west side and I use down exclusivly. I've used EE quilts for several seasons now and taken them through some
Of the worst rainstorms I've ever been in
I hope your right. I just bought a EE revelation quilt 10 degree. Going to give her a try.
Post by: jackelope on March 31, 2015, 12:53:32 PM
I run a big Agnes fly creek ul2 and also the ul3, can't say a bad thing about them!
Fly Creek vs Copper Spur....both are great tents.
Fly Creek has a front entry and less than vertical walls, which cost you space inside.
Copper Spur has more vertical walls and side entry which a lot of people prefer.
2 side doors on the Copper Spur also which is nice.
Post by: bradslam on March 31, 2015, 01:21:37 PM
Regarding down sleeping bags, don't be afraid of them. I have used down bags for at least the last twenty years in rainy climates and would never go back to synthetic. These days there are many bags that use down with water repellant treatments like Dri-Down, so it is even less of a problem. Here is a good video from Sierra Designs on sleeping bags where Michael Glavin talks about the myths concerning down.http://www.sierradesigns.com/blog/brandlive-video-recap (http://www.sierradesigns.com/blog/brandlive-video-recap)
Post by: jjhunter on May 20, 2015, 07:23:45 PM
KUIU Ultra Star 1P w/ footprint
Enlightened Equipment Enigma Pro 850 DownTek (Wide/Long)
Thermarest NeoAir Xlite (Long)
LEKI Micro Vario Carbon Trekking poles
I'll give them a few test runs this summer before I hit the WY high country in September.
Thanks for all of the advice. I am pumped about the EE quilt!
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 20, 2015, 07:41:05 PM
Post by: jjhunter on May 20, 2015, 07:45:16 PM
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the same quilt and will be very interested to hear what you think about yours when you get it. I think I'll wait until you do a review before I order :chuckle:
I don't know if I am the guy to post a review, I've got nothing to compare it to? :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 20, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
Just tell me it doesn't suck and I'll probably just order :chuckle:
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Post by: longwalker on May 21, 2015, 05:00:46 AM
Post by: Shawn Ryan on May 21, 2015, 11:35:44 PM
Don't wait too long to order your EE quilt. They are 7 weeks from order to shipping, unless you buy from their in stock supply, which is mostly returns and there are none "in stock" as I write this.