Best Tent / Best Bag

[coachcw]

Did someone say DQ  blizzard ?

[PlateauNDN]

  I wish they still carried nerds...

[Karl Blanchard]

I wish they still carried nerds...

  screw the blizzard!  Who is up for a chocolate shake from whistlin jacks!?!?!?!?!

[coachcw]

Make the run karl !

[hogslayer]

I think I am just gonna get a 0* and if it ends up not being warm enough then I will have a nice, light, September, early october quilt.  At 25oz, thats still a darn light early season bag.

If you are looking at the Enlightened Equipment quilts, check there garage sale section.  Just checked and they have a regular width, regular length 0 degree back for a little less than normal cost.

[Karl Blanchard]

I think I am just gonna get a 0* and if it ends up not being warm enough then I will have a nice, light, September, early october quilt.  At 25oz, thats still a darn light early season bag.

If you are looking at the Enlightened Equipment quilts, check there garage sale section.  Just checked and they have a regular width, regular length 0 degree back for a little less than normal cost.

thanks for the heads up

[whacker1]

Ok, I know it has been asked, but I don't know that I ever saw an answer.

For those that are into the Enlightened Equipment and similar down Quilts: can you explain what you give up in comparison to the similar quality down mummy bags, such as the: Marmot 0 degree or Mountain Hardwear Phantom Down 0 degree down mummy bags.

I am specifically looking at 10,000 feet in Elevation in Montana, colorado, Utah at the end of October & Early November, where you plan for 0 degrees, but could easily drop to -15

I see the gains are weight savings by about 1 lb or more over the down mummy bags, but I saw that none of them were rated below 20 degrees.  So, is there a product to handle these low temps or down i need to stick with the mummy bags?

[longwalker]

EE has 0 degree options and you can add over fill down. Just give Tim a call and hell likly make whatever you want. As far as what you give up in relation. In my opinion nothing other than a hood, I can't stand the hoods on mummy bags so for me I give up nothing. I've taken my 20 I to single digits on a xlite pad on top of snow with zero issues , but everybody's different

[Stein]

My interest in quilts has really increased.  I've been a mummy guy forever but really hate how confined I feel.  I hate foam pads!  If they aren't bulky, that means they are thin, and thin foam pads suck!  Don't try and argue that fact with me because it won't work!  I've tried em all !  I like thick air pads but air pads can sleep cold during late hunts. 

So my question is, how much do quilts suck in cold weather?  September is always a fairly tame time of year, sure you can get some bad weather but it usually doesn't last and you have a chance to thaw out.  How would a 0* quilt work paired with a Big Agnes air core in Colorado, in November, when the temps are into the teens and single digits at night?

I use a quilt and the Q core for early rifle hunts in Montana.  From my experience, add about 10-20 degrees to the rated temperature for comfort.  I usually sleep in my clothes if it gets a bit colder.

Another option is to use the mummy like a quilt.  I have a down gore tex bag that I take if it gets colder. 

When I hunt, I am often dehydrated, underfed and overworked and sleep colder.  When hiking, I am almost always in better shape and tend to sleep warmer.

[7mag.]

I feel that I haven't given anything up switching from a mummy bag to a quilt. I gained comfort, warmth, and weight savings. I almost always use a bivy, mostly to help keep my quilt clean and dry, and to help stop any drafts I may cause tossing and turning. Most importantly, I use a good, warm, comfortable pad. For the last few years I've been using a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core, but I recently switched to an Exped Downmat UL7. I have only used it a few times, but so far, I love it.

[Miles]

I feel that I haven't given anything up switching from a mummy bag to a quilt. I gained comfort, warmth, and weight savings. I almost always use a bivy, mostly to help keep my quilt clean and dry, and to help stop any drafts I may cause tossing and turning. Most importantly, I use a good, warm, comfortable pad. For the last few years I've been using a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core, but I recently switched to an Exped Downmat UL7. I have only used it a few times, but so far, I love it.

What is the weight for the quilt and bivy that you are using?

[7mag.]

I feel that I haven't given anything up switching from a mummy bag to a quilt. I gained comfort, warmth, and weight savings. I almost always use a bivy, mostly to help keep my quilt clean and dry, and to help stop any drafts I may cause tossing and turning. Most importantly, I use a good, warm, comfortable pad. For the last few years I've been using a Big Agnes Insulated Air Core, but I recently switched to an Exped Downmat UL7. I have only used it a few times, but so far, I love it.

What is the weight for the quilt and bivy that you are using?

My 10° quilt is 22.7 oz, and my bivy, I believe, is 9oz.

[floatinghat]

Feathered Friends 900fill either one of the UL 20's or 10' for a bag.  Get a vapor barrier.

For a tent what are the worst conditions you expect?

[floatinghat]

Feathered Friends 900fill either one of the UL 20's or 10' for a bag, get a vapor barrier just in case.

For a tent what are the worst conditions you expect?

[Instinct]

I purchased the easton kilo 3p while back for my buddy an I. Its roomy an did good on ventilation.