Post by: jackelope on March 19, 2015, 04:12:56 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 19, 2015, 04:19:39 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on March 19, 2015, 04:28:29 PM
Post by: Jingles on March 19, 2015, 04:51:26 PM
Post by: mkcj on March 19, 2015, 04:53:33 PM
Post by: Brad Harshman on March 19, 2015, 05:11:05 PM
Post by: Ridge Roamer on March 19, 2015, 05:53:56 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on March 19, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 19, 2015, 05:56:50 PM
as a land owner just shoot the Damned dogs
My thoughts too.....
Post by: fireweed on March 19, 2015, 06:07:04 PM
Post by: haugenna on March 19, 2015, 06:08:44 PM
as a land owner just shoot the Damned dogs
My thoughts too.....
Here we go again, I can see where this is going..... :chuckle: "My dog is more valuable than human life and if you shoot my dog, I will shoot you."
Oh, I like the law as the article presents it if that is truly the nature of the bill.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on March 19, 2015, 06:11:58 PM
as a land owner just shoot the Damned dogs
My thoughts too.....
Here we go again, I can see where this is going..... :chuckle: "My dog is more valuable than human life and if you shoot my dog, I will shoot you."
Oh, I like the law as the article presents it if that is truly the nature of the bill.
I bet the guy is a none hunter, rides a bicycle not in the green lanes in Seattle and drives a Prius.... :tup:
Post by: fair-chase on March 19, 2015, 06:26:02 PM
HB-1627 (http://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2015-16/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/1627.pdf)
Rep. Schmik, the bills sponsor is from my district. I think I will try and contact him tomorrow and see what (if any) relevance this will have to the increased level of harassment we've been seeing in regards to shed hunting.
Post by: Brad Harshman on March 19, 2015, 07:18:10 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 19, 2015, 07:21:22 PM
Thanks for posting the HB. It's short and sweet, it's merely including the illegality of collecting wildlife parts to the already standing law. It's saying while your trespassing and hunting animals or collecting thier parts (sheds) you'll lose the animals/parts if caught. It's not earth shattering it's merely amending a standing law to protect property owners from jack wagon trespassers. And now the state can confiscate the sheds. But what I don't like is that the landowner should have a 'right' to the sheds. instead, acording to article the state will auction it off or donate them to a civic group. But the owner of the land where the sheds came from doesn't get a say in the matter.
:yeah: I agree, the landowner should have first right to the retrieved antlers and then if not desired the WDFW should take them.
Looks like a good addition to the existing law that will hopefully resolve another trespassing issue.
Post by: jackelope on March 19, 2015, 07:23:24 PM
Post by: nalley112 on March 19, 2015, 09:20:48 PM
as a land owner just shoot the Damned dogs
you must not own a hunting dog or just a dog in that matter.. most dogs become a part in the family..if you were to shoot at my dog i would shoot back.
its not the dogs fault for running the deer and elk around. its the owners fault for letting them do it and not having them on a leash.
Post by: lokidog on March 19, 2015, 09:32:38 PM
as a land owner just shoot the Damned dogs
you must not own a hunting dog or just a dog in that matter.. most dogs become a part in the family..if you were to shoot at my dog i would shoot back.
its not the dogs fault for running the deer and elk around. its the owners fault for letting them do it and not having them on a leash.
Yeah, but we, unfortunately, can't shoot loser dog owners.... I didn't read the bill, but what abot if we are out walking our dogs, in control, and find a shed? Now I'm a wildlife law breaker? BS!!
Post by: haugenna on March 19, 2015, 09:38:48 PM
Post by: runamuk on March 19, 2015, 09:40:22 PM
Isn't letting dogs chase elk already illegal? And trespassing is already illegal? and harassing wildlife?yes but since when does enforcing an existing law buy votes :rolleyes: it's way funner to make more laws that are even more convoluted and less likely to be enforced than the previous one and if we are super lucky it will contradict some other law thus eventually ending up in some courtroom to be debated and really only providing job security for people paid with taxes, oh that they will need to raise again because they cant afford to enforce them due to budget...wash.... rinse.... repeat
Post by: lokidog on March 19, 2015, 09:51:14 PM
Isn't letting dogs chase elk already illegal? And trespassing is already illegal? and harassing wildlife?yes but since when does enforcing an existing law buy votes :rolleyes: it's way funner to make more laws that are even more convoluted and less likely to be enforced than the previous one and if we are super lucky it will contradict some other law thus eventually ending up in some courtroom to be debated and really only providing job security for people paid with taxes, oh that they will need to raise again because they cant afford to enforce them due to budget...wash.... rinse.... repeat
:yeah:
Post by: nalley112 on March 19, 2015, 10:05:57 PM
or like Lokidog said what if your out for a little hike with your dogs and there lies one right in front of you and its not open? who is going to pass it up just cause they have a dog :dunno:
Post by: Jingles on March 19, 2015, 10:08:01 PM
as a land owner just shoot the Damned dogs
you must not own a hunting dog or just a dog in that matter.. most dogs become a part in the family..if you were to shoot at my dog i would shoot back.
its not the dogs fault for running the deer and elk around. its the owners fault for letting them do it and not having them on a leash.
Yes I have had hunting dogs and I currently have a dog and I did not let them chase deer it is the owners fault they chase deer/ elk if the owner doesn't take the time or have the intelligence to train his dogs. And it your dogs are chasing deer on my private property as was described your dogs are gonna get shot at and if you shoot at me get ready for a gunfight
Post by: nalley112 on March 19, 2015, 10:13:56 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 19, 2015, 10:22:59 PM
The bill has NOTHING to do with using dogs to find sheds. All the bill does is make it a fish and wildlife offense to be on someone's land without their permission and look for sheds.
Post by: lokidog on March 19, 2015, 10:28:20 PM
Post by: PolarBear on March 20, 2015, 01:59:34 AM
as a land owner just shoot the Damned dogs:yeah:
Post by: Chesapeake on March 20, 2015, 01:22:28 PM
Post by: Huntmossberg8 on March 21, 2015, 02:06:26 AM
RCW 77.15.240
Unlawful use of dogs — Penalty — Authority to take or destroy a dog — Certain hazing activities permitted.
(1)(a) A person is guilty of unlawful use of dogs if the person:
(i) Negligently fails to prevent a dog under the person's control from pursuing, harassing, attacking, or killing deer, elk, moose, caribou, mountain sheep, or animals classified as endangered under this title; or
(ii) Uses the dog to hunt deer or elk.
(b) For the purposes of this subsection, a dog is "under a person's control" if the dog is owned or possessed by, or in the custody of, a person.
(2) Unlawful use of dogs is a misdemeanor.
(3)(a) Based on a reasonable belief that a dog is pursuing, harassing, attacking, or killing a deer, elk, moose, caribou, mountain sheep, or animals classified as protected or endangered under this title, fish and wildlife officers and ex officio fish and wildlife officers may:
(i) Lawfully take a dog into custody; or
(ii) If necessary to avoid repeated harassment, injury, or death of wildlife under this section, destroy the dog.
(b) Fish and wildlife officers and ex officio fish and wildlife officers who destroy a dog pursuant to this section are immune from civil or criminal liability arising from their actions.
(4)(a) This section does not apply to a person using a dog to conduct a department-approved and controlled hazing activity, as long as the person prevents or minimizes physical contact between the dog and the wildlife, and the hazing is being done only for the purposes of wildlife control and the prevention of damage to commercial crops.
(b) For the purposes of this subsection, "hazing" means the act of chasing or herding wildlife in an effort to move them from one location to another.
Post by: Maverick on March 27, 2015, 09:38:27 AM