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Title: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: NW-GSP on March 31, 2015, 11:37:55 AM
I'm looking for birds for dog training. I am not able to raise birds myself but could hold onto them for a couple of days before training. I will be looking for a semi continuous supply but nothing high volume.
Most likely around 5 a week or more.

I am in Arlington.
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: gregr072 on April 15, 2015, 09:42:26 PM
I live in Lake Stevens and am also looking for birds!  Perhaps we could make a larger order between the two of us or ??  I have a new pup coming this week.  I'm looking forward to getting out training.
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: NW-GSP on April 15, 2015, 09:46:31 PM
Only problem is that I am not able to keep any birds at my place. Hoa rules.
I might be able to get ahold of some pigeons.

What kind of pup do you have? How old?
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: gregr072 on April 15, 2015, 09:53:44 PM
Adding another Britt. He's 8 weeks old. The last two dogs I trained in Illinois where it was no problem to find birds. This will be my first in WA.
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: NW-GSP on April 15, 2015, 09:57:49 PM
I have a 7 year old German shorthair and a one year old drahthaar, it makes training together allot easier since we both have pointers.
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: birddogdad on April 16, 2015, 07:53:17 AM
I'm looking for birds for dog training. I am not able to raise birds myself but could hold onto them for a couple of days before training. I will be looking for a semi continuous supply but nothing high volume.
Most likely around 5 a week or more.

I am in Arlington.

I would catch my own, if you have either accessible bridges or a farmer/county utility storage sheds in your area. contact them, gain access, night with long handle fishing net and bright flashlight.. pretty easy actually. The county was very happy for me to get rid of them years ago, stops them pooping all over the equipment. The bridges same, night when they are roosting. It is totally legal. No permit or license required.
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: gregr072 on April 16, 2015, 08:46:34 AM
Good advice.  I used to catch them when I lived in IL, now I just need to find some here. :)
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: birddogdad on April 16, 2015, 08:52:18 AM
once you get some, determine sex and start your own supply... they breed several a season.... as long as it is warm they are nesting...
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: birddogdad on April 16, 2015, 08:53:31 AM
once you get some, determine sex and start your own supply... they breed several a season.... as long as it is warm they are nesting...

pigeon TV.. the dogs watch this channel for hours!!
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: Blcktaildreamer on April 16, 2015, 11:14:25 AM

once you get some, determine sex and start your own supply... they breed several a season.... as long as it is warm they are nesting...

Are those 4x4 lofts? How many birds do you put in each loft? I'm just getting set up to keep my own birds for training and hoping to raise enough to sell a few. I was thinking around 6-8 birds per 4x4 loft.


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Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: birddogdad on April 16, 2015, 11:23:08 AM
you can stack em in ... I have 12" square boxes inside just off floor to ceiling like a mason jar box on side. They all use them easily 20+ in there.. recall door, allows them exercise return access.. biggest trouble is with hawks and eagles when they are out playing. They hatch several times a summer. by winter, I hunting season, I am singled up on the houses, training with the rest. be careful not to use up all your females!
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: Blcktaildreamer on April 16, 2015, 11:47:37 AM
Cool I need to get something figured out my neighbor lady has someone with 15 racers that is getting older and can't take care of them any longer. She said I can have them for free. I plan to breed with them and train with the young they produce. I only have one dog I will be training so I don't think I will need to many birds. But this will be the first pointer I have ever trained so I'm not sure how many birds it takes.


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Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: AspenBud on April 16, 2015, 11:59:19 AM
Cool I need to get something figured out my neighbor lady has someone with 15 racers that is getting older and can't take care of them any longer. She said I can have them for free. I plan to breed with them and train with the young they produce. I only have one dog I will be training so I don't think I will need to many birds. But this will be the first pointer I have ever trained so I'm not sure how many birds it takes.


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If the racers home you can get a lot done as long as you don't start shooting them. Steady to wing and shot does not require dead birds until later in the game. Retrieving, if you want the dog to do that, that's another story.

Buy a remote launcher or two if you don't have any. Lion Country Supply and DT Systems sell them for a "reasonable" price.
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: birddogdad on April 16, 2015, 12:34:28 PM
you can dizzy them or sock and string for steady point n flush. they will home just fine, until that hawk figures out the store is open...

then I keep them cooped up for a couple weeks to eliminate food source.
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: Blcktaildreamer on April 16, 2015, 01:27:47 PM
I'm hoping to just head tuck them for awhile $400 for a remote launcher just seems crazy to me. Are they that much better than the manual launchers.


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Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: Blcktaildreamer on April 16, 2015, 01:29:39 PM
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This guy is tiered of tweety birds. He is going to go crazy over pigeons.


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Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: AspenBud on April 16, 2015, 01:45:45 PM
I'm hoping to just head tuck them for awhile $400 for a remote launcher just seems crazy to me. Are they that much better than the manual launchers.


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The remote launchers are nice if you are training alone and want to minimize the chance the dog will take out the bird. It's also helpful when teaching the dog that getting too close to the bird leads to them flying.

This one works with a pull cord if you're on a budget. Not the greatest, but sometimes simple works as well or better.

http://www.lcsupply.com/LCS-Universal-Bird-Launcher-Manual/productinfo/ULM/ (http://www.lcsupply.com/LCS-Universal-Bird-Launcher-Manual/productinfo/ULM/)
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: Happy Gilmore on April 21, 2015, 01:47:13 PM
Cool I need to get something figured out my neighbor lady has someone with 15 racers that is getting older and can't take care of them any longer. She said I can have them for free. I plan to breed with them and train with the young they produce. I only have one dog I will be training so I don't think I will need to many birds. But this will be the first pointer I have ever trained so I'm not sure how many birds it takes.


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If the racers home you can get a lot done as long as you don't start shooting them. Steady to wing and shot does not require dead birds until later in the game. Retrieving, if you want the dog to do that, that's another story.

Buy a remote launcher or two if you don't have any. Lion Country Supply and DT Systems sell them for a "reasonable" price.

let it fly, shoot and throw a dead bird. Not that tough and isn't that big a difference. You can also NOT throw the dead bird if dog isn't steady. Keep it simple.
Title: Re: looking for birds for dog training- pigeons, chukar or quail
Post by: NW-GSP on April 21, 2015, 02:06:38 PM
Cool I need to get something figured out my neighbor lady has someone with 15 racers that is getting older and can't take care of them any longer. She said I can have them for free. I plan to breed with them and train with the young they produce. I only have one dog I will be training so I don't think I will need to many birds. But this will be the first pointer I have ever trained so I'm not sure how many birds it takes.


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If the racers home you can get a lot done as long as you don't start shooting them. Steady to wing and shot does not require dead birds until later in the game. Retrieving, if you want the dog to do that, that's another story.

Buy a remote launcher or two if you don't have any. Lion Country Supply and DT Systems sell them for a "reasonable" price.

let it fly, shoot and throw a dead bird. Not that tough and isn't that big a difference. You can also NOT throw the dead bird if dog isn't steady. Keep it simple.

I'm working with pointing dogs. Dead birds dog cut it.
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