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Title: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: bearpaw on April 01, 2015, 04:45:32 PM
National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress

National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtAsQmv-Hws#ws)
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: stevemiller on April 01, 2015, 05:11:48 PM
Very cool thanks for that Bearpaw
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 01, 2015, 05:40:55 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 01, 2015, 05:52:13 PM
Sweet ! Nice she left us some numbers to call ..even though they are not from our state we all should give them the support they need  :tup:
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: Special T on April 01, 2015, 06:33:03 PM
I Like the idea but worry about States rights. IMO we need more independence in states rights from the federal Gov. The main problem with BIG Gov is that it allows us to be pitted against each other.  :twocents:
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: csaaphill on April 01, 2015, 07:50:27 PM
Good legislation but make it no permit needed all 50 states and that our second amendment is our permit!
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: Jingles on April 02, 2015, 08:46:03 PM
Yep National Right to Carry permit first step to registration to make confiscation easier and first place to start those that have permits
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: stevemiller on April 02, 2015, 10:16:03 PM
yep this is the same mindset that people had with I-591 and look where they got us.This would be a good start but people have to always poison good ideas with  :tinfoil: crap.  :yeah:

all this will do is make it legal for cpl holders to carry in all states of the union.nowhere does it ask for any registration.
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: stevemiller on April 03, 2015, 11:18:03 AM
You call me naive,WOW.Are you not being naive believing everything about them taking your second from you?Prove it.More guns are being purchased today than ever before.Whos they anyway?Ill tell you who they are its our neighbors,our own citizens thats who.Yes we need to fight everyway  we can and back any and all pro second bills that come out.Even if you think  :tinfoil: they may back door something on us.By the way I would like for you to site a few examples of when this has happened with the second anyway.
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: stevemiller on April 03, 2015, 11:23:10 AM
Stevemiller I don't know you or much about you except you and I are both quitting smoking at about the same time you chose to substitute e cigs for real cigs and I just quit completely.
You might be right that no where does it mention registration but are you really naive enough to think they won't find someway to put that in as a condition.  I am sorry but I already have my permit to carry in all 50 states and it is the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution people just have to have balls enough stand up and fight for a right we already have.......
I believe in the Constitution 100% show me where it says you can carry concealed in the Constitution please.This bill gives you the right to carry concealed in all states where it is legal to conceal carry.That to me is like another Amendment to the Constitution whats the problem?The word conceal is not by any means covered by the Constitution.
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: huntrights on April 03, 2015, 11:42:24 AM
The USA is a nation of laws.  Not all laws are fair or just, and there are consequences for not following them whether we like it or not.  When we find laws that are not fair, just, or violate our rights, then we must work to get them changed or repealed (i.e. I-594 in Washington).  When we see that we need new laws to ensure our rights and freedoms are protected as we travel from state to state, we should support the bills that will create those laws and ask our Senators and Representatives to cosponsor and/or support them (i.e. National Concealed Carry Reciprocity).  Also, like it or not, the political arena controls a great deal of what we can and can’t do at the national, state, and local levels; we must learn to work within that arena and be very active in getting the right people elected into political office and pushing for legislation that protects our rights and freedoms. 

Apathy and complacency have been the biggest destroyers of our rights and freedoms.  All of us must vote only for people that will support and protect our rights and freedoms.  That is, DO NOT vote for people with Socialist or “Big Government” tendencies regardless of what political party they claim to affiliate with.  All of us must be actively engaged in the political processes that control nearly every aspect of our lives.  Get involved!

Please respectfully ask your Senators and Representatives to cosponsor and/or support the National Conceal Carry Reciprocity bills (List the bills when you write or call your Senators and Representatives).

Contact your U.S. Senators in Washington State:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?State=WA (http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?State=WA)

Contact your U.S. Representatives In Washington State:
http://www.house.gov/representatives/ (http://www.house.gov/representatives/)

You can also call the United States Capitol switchboard at 1-202-224-3121.  The switchboard operator will connect you with the office you request.


These are the bills you want to ask your U.S. Senators and Representatives to cosponsor and/or support:

S.498 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/498 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/498)

H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/923 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/923)

H.R.402 - National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/402 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/402)

H.R.986 - Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986)


Feel free to copy and paste the following message to your U.S. Senators and Representatives.  Refer to S.498 for communications to the Senators.  Refer to H.R.402, 923, and 986 for communications to the Representatives.


For the Senators:

I am writing to respectfully ask that you cosponsor and/or support the following National Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015.  It is long overdue and needed to protect the rights of all law-abiding citizens of this nation as they travel from state to state.

S.498 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Thank you.


For the Representatives:

I am writing to respectfully ask that you cosponsor and/or support the following National Concealed Carry and Right to Carry Reciprocity Acts of 2015.  They are long overdue and needed to protect the rights of all law-abiding citizens of this nation as they travel from state to state.

H.R.402 - National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

H.R.986 - Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Thank you.



Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: stevemiller on April 03, 2015, 12:06:22 PM
 :yeah: Thank you.
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: stevemiller on April 03, 2015, 01:40:12 PM
I guess they cant find it.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: Bofire on April 03, 2015, 04:00:11 PM
 :)One thing about all this talk that bothers me, What is "concealed carry"
Carl
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: stevemiller on April 03, 2015, 05:53:24 PM
carrying where it can not be seen from what I have been told (3 sides) any LEO want to confirm.What I can tell you for a fact is that it is not covered in the Constitution.As so many believe it to be.  :twocents:
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: csaaphill on April 05, 2015, 06:10:22 AM
why does everyone use the tin foil hat guy it's an agenda not much of a diffeence but there is a difference.
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: csaaphill on April 05, 2015, 06:16:29 AM
Stevemiller I don't know you or much about you except you and I are both quitting smoking at about the same time you chose to substitute e cigs for real cigs and I just quit completely.
You might be right that no where does it mention registration but are you really naive enough to think they won't find someway to put that in as a condition.  I am sorry but I already have my permit to carry in all 50 states and it is the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution people just have to have balls enough stand up and fight for a right we already have.......
dang it not me i wont quit smoking  8) but cpl's are a back door registration.
and yes their goal is confiscation either by law or other.
and fyi it's not a conspiracy but an agenda.
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: csaaphill on April 05, 2015, 06:33:20 AM
Stevemiller I don't know you or much about you except you and I are both quitting smoking at about the same time you chose to substitute e cigs for real cigs and I just quit completely.
You might be right that no where does it mention registration but are you really naive enough to think they won't find someway to put that in as a condition.  I am sorry but I already have my permit to carry in all 50 states and it is the 2nd Amendment of the United States Constitution people just have to have balls enough stand up and fight for a right we already have.......
I believe in the Constitution 100% show me where it says you can carry concealed in the Constitution please.This bill gives you the right to carry concealed in all states where it is legal to conceal carry.That to me is like another Amendment to the Constitution whats the problem?The word conceal is not by any means covered by the Constitution.
The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed. – Alexander Hamilton
a large in black bold no steve it's not part of the Bill of rights as you asked or Constitution, but it's one of the many quotes our forefathers stated.
A strong body makes a strong mind. As to the species of exercise I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Let your gun, therefore, be the constant companion of your walks. – Thomas Jefferson
The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution."
Thomas Jefferson
Third President of the United States
best ones I see about being armed while at large and at liberty Liberty being the operative word!
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: csaaphill on April 05, 2015, 06:47:40 AM
The USA is a nation of laws.  Not all laws are fair or just, and there are consequences for not following them whether we like it or not.  When we find laws that are not fair, just, or violate our rights, then we must work to get them changed or repealed (i.e. I-594 in Washington).  When we see that we need new laws to ensure our rights and freedoms are protected as we travel from state to state, we should support the bills that will create those laws and ask our Senators and Representatives to cosponsor and/or support them (i.e. National Concealed Carry Reciprocity).  Also, like it or not, the political arena controls a great deal of what we can and can’t do at the national, state, and local levels; we must learn to work within that arena and be very active in getting the right people elected into political office and pushing for legislation that protects our rights and freedoms. 

Apathy and complacency have been the biggest destroyers of our rights and freedoms.  All of us must vote only for people that will support and protect our rights and freedoms.  That is, DO NOT vote for people with Socialist or “Big Government” tendencies regardless of what political party they claim to affiliate with.  All of us must be actively engaged in the political processes that control nearly every aspect of our lives.  Get involved!

Please respectfully ask your Senators and Representatives to cosponsor and/or support the National Conceal Carry Reciprocity bills (List the bills when you write or call your Senators and Representatives).

Contact your U.S. Senators in Washington State:
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?State=WA (http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?State=WA)

Contact your U.S. Representatives In Washington State:
http://www.house.gov/representatives/ (http://www.house.gov/representatives/)

You can also call the United States Capitol switchboard at 1-202-224-3121.  The switchboard operator will connect you with the office you request.


These are the bills you want to ask your U.S. Senators and Representatives to cosponsor and/or support:

S.498 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/498 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/498)

H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/923 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/923)

H.R.402 - National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/402 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/402)

H.R.986 - Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015
114th Congress (2015-2016)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986 (https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/986)


Feel free to copy and paste the following message to your U.S. Senators and Representatives.  Refer to S.498 for communications to the Senators.  Refer to H.R.402, 923, and 986 for communications to the Representatives.


For the Senators:

I am writing to respectfully ask that you cosponsor and/or support the following National Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015.  It is long overdue and needed to protect the rights of all law-abiding citizens of this nation as they travel from state to state.

S.498 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Thank you.


For the Representatives:

I am writing to respectfully ask that you cosponsor and/or support the following National Concealed Carry and Right to Carry Reciprocity Acts of 2015.  They are long overdue and needed to protect the rights of all law-abiding citizens of this nation as they travel from state to state.

H.R.402 - National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

H.R.923 - Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

H.R.986 - Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2015

Thank you.
Uh would that be like this and sorry I have to call you on this. that kind of thinking has enslaved us now!
Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. – John Adams (1814
Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, why is ths word censored?original word=bass terd ised. form of illegitimate government. – James Madison
To maintain the ascendancy of the Constitution over the lawmaking majority is the great and essential point on which the success of the [American] system must depend; unless that ascendancy can be preserved, the necessary consequence must be that the laws will supersede the Constitution; and, finally, the will of the Executive, by influence of its patronage, will supersede the laws ... -- John C. Calhoun (1782-1850)
  Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty. – Thomas Jefferson
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!   -Patrick Henry to the Virginia House of Burgesses, 1775
I have sworn upon the altar of god, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. – Thomas Jefferson (1800)
 God grants liberty only to those who love it, and are always ready to guard and defend it. – Daniel Webster (1834)
The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests. – Patrick Henry
Resistance to tyranny is service to God. – James Madison
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere. – Thomas Jefferson (1743-1846), U.S. President, Letter to Abigail Adams, 22 February 1787
If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so. – Thomas Jefferson
with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined" (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)
 
I like that one the best because it shows what wre up against now days.
Title: Re: National Right-to-Carry Legislation Gains Support in U.S. Congress
Post by: csaaphill on April 05, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
yep this is the same mindset that people had with I-591 and look where they got us.This would be a good start but people have to always poison good ideas with  :tinfoil: crap.  :yeah:

all this will do is make it legal for cpl holders to carry in all states of the union.nowhere does it ask for any registration.
I voted yes on that but as right as your are on 591 not 594 591 didn't want to let the people pass a law that went beyond the Federal Gov, but I'd bet it wouldn't have been long before the Feds did. I don't get the use of the tin foil hat guy though agenda not conspiracy.
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