Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 06, 2015, 09:58:06 AM
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By 2013, however, with snowfall scant, some northern California reservoirs had fallen far below normal levels. Farms on the Central Valley’s eastern side—the ones with prior privileged access to local irrigation districts and shallow water tables—faced a second year without surface-water deliveries. After 12 months of steady pumping, their water tables weren’t so shallow any more. My old well dipped to 60 feet [from 40 feet] as the water table began dropping more than a foot per month. In past years, I could count on access to canal water to replenish the water table. Now, for the first time in the 140-year history of our farm, nature and man had cut off the water. The well went dry.
Read it all and recognize that the
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[g]ardens and lawns remain green in Palo Alto, San Mateo, Cupertino, and San Francisco [(homes to the most affluent in central CA)], where residents continue to benefit from past investments in huge water transfers from inland mountains to the coast. They will be the last to go dry.
http://www.city-journal.org/2015/25_1_california-drought.html (http://www.city-journal.org/2015/25_1_california-drought.html)
Submariner showers for everyone, except the affluent.
It can't happen here, though. Right?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 06, 2015, 02:10:17 PM
Post by: magnanimous_j on April 06, 2015, 03:03:34 PM
They've got so much sea water and sunshine/wind, that they could have enough water for everyone to have a pool and green lawn.
It will probably come to that. The Gulf States have been running desalination plants for years and they seem to work out ok. One of the flaws of our species is that no one wants to invest in anything big until they absolutely have to.
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on April 06, 2015, 03:21:46 PM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on April 06, 2015, 03:58:15 PM
They've got so much sea water and sunshine/wind, that they could have enough water for everyone to have a pool and green lawn.
It will probably come to that. The Gulf States have been running desalination plants for years and they seem to work out ok. One of the flaws of our species is that no one wants to invest in anything big until they absolutely have to.
Desalination takes a lot of energy
Post by: timberfaller on April 07, 2015, 01:26:49 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 07, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
Post by: wolfbait on April 12, 2015, 03:24:36 PM
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/bone-dry-california-dumps-water-to-make-fish-happy/#Jwh5qv1ZuA3H6WhX.99 (http://www.wnd.com/2015/04/bone-dry-california-dumps-water-to-make-fish-happy/#Jwh5qv1ZuA3H6WhX.99)
Post by: WSU on April 15, 2015, 11:32:54 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 15, 2015, 12:06:17 PM
You didn't appreciate the irony?
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As the drought continued, the political debate heated up. Farmers reminded Bay Area Greens that they had no proof that the Delta smelt was suffering from a lack of fresh river water. Equally likely culprits for the fish’s plight were the more than 30 Bay Area and Stockton-area municipalities that dump oxygen-depleted wastewater into the baitfish’s habitat. The farmers noted the irony of using artificial reservoirs to ensure supposedly “natural” year-round river flows for salmon and smelt.
Post by: WSU on April 15, 2015, 12:19:18 PM
False dichotomy.
You didn't appreciate the irony?QuoteAs the drought continued, the political debate heated up. Farmers reminded Bay Area Greens that they had no proof that the Delta smelt was suffering from a lack of fresh river water. Equally likely culprits for the fish’s plight were the more than 30 Bay Area and Stockton-area municipalities that dump oxygen-depleted wastewater into the baitfish’s habitat. The farmers noted the irony of using artificial reservoirs to ensure supposedly “natural” year-round river flows for salmon and smelt.
I didn't. Probably because I didn't read the article and only read the portions you quoted. That's what I get for assuming.
Overall, my point has validity. Perhaps not the Delta Smelt, which I'm not familiar with, but certainly the daming of rivers and diversion of water needed for salmon is an issue. And the use of reservoirs has proven valuable here in Washington when flushing smolts in the spring. I'm sure there are a million others, like farmers irrigating and diking off the lower reaches of rivers. Those issues exist everywhere.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 15, 2015, 12:32:05 PM
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The Hetch Hetchy reservoir in Yosemite National Park still supplies almost 90 percent of the San Francisco Bay area’s daily water supplies. In a strange paradox, that water bypasses the San Joaquin River, into which environmentalists had diverted millions of acre-feet of irrigation water for fish. Even in 2014, as the state baked dry, environmentalists insisted on diverting what little mountain reservoir water remained to river-restoration efforts. Yet no environmentalist group has suggested that California tap Hetch Hetchy for habitat restoration in the same manner in which it has expropriated the water of farmers.
Post by: WSU on April 15, 2015, 01:06:01 PM
Fair enough. It's not all pools and lawns or fish as the only options. Farmer's contractual water rights and other fish detriments are at issue. Oddly, rather than the dichotomy you propose, the huggers chose to have their lawns and pools and the fish.QuoteThe Hetch Hetchy reservoir in Yosemite National Park still supplies almost 90 percent of the San Francisco Bay area’s daily water supplies. In a strange paradox, that water bypasses the San Joaquin River, into which environmentalists had diverted millions of acre-feet of irrigation water for fish. Even in 2014, as the state baked dry, environmentalists insisted on diverting what little mountain reservoir water remained to river-restoration efforts. Yet no environmentalist group has suggested that California tap Hetch Hetchy for habitat restoration in the same manner in which it has expropriated the water of farmers.
It is odd. But it's always easier to blame the other guy. It sure seems that producing food and income should take priority over my green lawn. It also seems that perhaps we should build all of these things in places that we know don't have the resources to support it.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 15, 2015, 01:38:31 PM
Post by: timberfaller on April 16, 2015, 09:29:15 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/16/man-made-disaster-critics-say-california-drought-caused-by-misguided/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/16/man-made-disaster-critics-say-california-drought-caused-by-misguided/)
As the HOAX'STERS continue the HOAX and people don't wake-up to the "ignorance" of the Greenie Wheenies, Stupidity will continue! :yike:
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 16, 2015, 09:40:11 AM
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“Southern California is an arid part of the world where droughts -- even severe droughts -- are commonplace, and knowing this, you’d think the government of California would have included this mathematical certainty in its disaster preparedness planning, but the government has done nothing, not even store rain, as the population has continued to grow.”
From God:
GALATIANS 6: 7-9 (KJV)
7: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8: For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9: And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.