Post by: kball4 on April 17, 2015, 10:35:06 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on April 17, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Post by: kentrek on April 17, 2015, 10:48:08 AM
Post by: kentrek on April 17, 2015, 10:50:57 AM
Good luck with that. Lot of people going to be in for a big surprise. And it wont be a good one!
Whoops, beet me to it :yeah:
Post by: Tbar on April 17, 2015, 11:02:19 AM
Good luck with that. Lot of people going to be in for a big surprise. And it wont be a good one!:yeah: That unit is not what it once was in the 90s. Some of the areas that still hold some good bulls are still draw hunts. There will be a few good bulls taken from the tree farm for sure but I think the masses that flock there and buy a pass will be largely disappointed. I think this is just a money grab by Weyco with the fee access and has little to do with providing opportunity or even herd management.
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on April 18, 2015, 08:19:33 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on April 18, 2015, 03:11:14 PM
Post by: longwalker on April 18, 2015, 03:50:56 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on April 18, 2015, 07:01:13 PM
Post by: Nice Racks on April 18, 2015, 08:22:12 PM
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 18, 2015, 08:49:47 PM
Post by: longwalker on April 18, 2015, 08:59:37 PM
Not sure who Mr. Agnew is, but it seems he isn't too popular on here.
Didn't pick up on the sarcasm huh? In all seriousness I do hope this unit takes a ton of hunters this year releaving pressure in other units. Where I hunt I never have to worry about a ton of pressure but the type of hunters that will just blindly flock to this unit since now it's "finally open!! " deserve the zoo they'll create and the rest of us can enjoy our elk season just a little more
Post by: fireweed on April 21, 2015, 08:25:37 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2015, 08:31:45 AM
It was $150 last year. This year it's $160, with a limit of 5,000 permits.
Post by: Curly on April 21, 2015, 08:42:52 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2015, 08:45:03 AM
Does Weyco allow camping on the St Helens tree farm if you pay for an access permit? If they allowed camping I think it would be worth the price.
No I don't believe so. But the Vail and Pe Ell permits do.
Post by: Chesapeake on April 21, 2015, 10:08:20 AM
It will be an interesting year to see how things fall out.
Post by: Big6bull on April 21, 2015, 01:18:18 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on April 21, 2015, 07:21:52 PM
They cut out the Back country section of Margaret so I'd expect the elk to flock there pretty quickly once the pressure shows up. Plus it seems very often these days the logging lands are closed to fire danger. Now you wont have the Forest service lands as a plan B.There's thousands of acres between the Weyerhaueser land and the monument for the elk to flock to.
It will be an interesting year to see how things fall out.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 21, 2015, 09:12:30 PM
Post by: Bullkllr on April 21, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
I just read on FB that a local guy down there, has found 100 dead elk from hoofrot, probably BS, right ? At least that was my take on it. If he did, that would be all over the news, well, maybe.
Maybe BS, maybe not. If they were all in a small area it would be a bigger deal. Hoffrot has hit that herd pretty hard. I hunted down there year before last and found more piles of bones than live elk.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 21, 2015, 09:20:06 PM
I just read on FB that a local guy down there, has found 100 dead elk from hoofrot, probably BS, right ? At least that was my take on it. If he did, that would be all over the news, well, maybe.
Maybe BS, maybe not. If they were all in a small area it would be a bigger deal. Hoffrot has hit that herd pretty hard. I hunted down there year before last and found more piles of bones than live elk.
I'm kinda thinking, stretching the truth, maybe. You know how it looks good on a guys post, especially on FB..
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2015, 09:21:08 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on April 21, 2015, 09:27:22 PM
In some areas more elk have hoof rot than don't. So I wouldn't doubt that a guy could find 100 dead elk.
That's kind of mind boggling. But then of course, if there are 6000 elk there, thats not really that much I guess.
Post by: kentrek on April 21, 2015, 09:59:54 PM
In some areas more elk have hoof rot than don't. So I wouldn't doubt that a guy could find 100 dead elk.
With such an easy winter I can't imagine 100 dead but I don't spend any time up 19 mile anymore so who knows...I've noticed alot more hoof rot in the cold water & castle lake area this year tho but still no where near the levels that the low country has....I'm almost hoping for a really bad late storm just to kill off the infected
I watch a chopper doing some kind of survey on the elk below castle, merrata creek,Jackson creek and the flow in between...was wondering if it may be related to hoof rot
hopefully they remove them so the tourists don't see...nothing like watching a couple hundred half Dead elk to bring in the tourist dollars
Post by: bobcat on April 21, 2015, 10:34:48 PM
Post by: Tacbeav on April 22, 2015, 08:33:51 AM
Cows Bulls Total 6pt or better Bulls
Margaret 17 58 75 15
Toutle 55 38 93 4
Winston 67 130 197 15
Coweeman 50 132 185 15
Ryderwood 109 169 278 12
I'm interested in seeing what others make of these numbers, but it seems to me that the Margaret is still a good option, especially for those looking for a 6pt bull.
Post by: kentrek on April 22, 2015, 08:34:44 AM
I'm not a bio but I'd imagine cold weather on elk that are starving to death is the last nail in the coffin :dunno:
Either way every one loses and the tourists are the next in line...
Post by: RB on April 22, 2015, 09:22:41 AM
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on August 19, 2015, 08:39:57 PM
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Post by: bobcat on August 19, 2015, 09:02:39 PM
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on August 19, 2015, 09:04:04 PM
Currently, the Margaret GMU is at a level 2 (shutdown zone 660).
The direction we were given last year from senior management was that permit access would not be restricted unless the Industrial Fire Precaution Levels reached a level 4 in that particular shutdown zone. https://fortress.wa.gov/dnr/ifpl/IFPL.aspx Level 4 means general shutdown (all operations are prohibited). It has been 10 years since we have seen a level 4 but this could potentially be the year it gets there again. I would offer refunds on permits if access was denied for this reason. I would need the permit packet to be mailed back prior to issuing a refund. The Recreational Access Hotline/Website (link below) will be updated with any closure information.
Thank you,
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Post by: Bullkllr on September 16, 2015, 08:34:55 PM
Just interested in hearing how it's going.
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on September 16, 2015, 08:35:52 PM
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Post by: TheHunt on September 24, 2015, 08:35:47 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on September 24, 2015, 08:52:46 AM
Going to be a complete zoo!
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Was it a zoo while you hunted it this year? I would have thought archery would be about the worst one, that is the only time I'd even want to hunt that unit.
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on September 24, 2015, 09:00:47 AM
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Post by: HntnFsh on September 24, 2015, 01:43:10 PM
Any ideas on who posted four "no trespassing" signs on the gate to PUBLIC LAND that the WDFW and USA owns that is adjacent to 504??? Someone who thinks they can keep others out??
Where abouts you talking about. I'd be curious to check it out.
Post by: Jeremiah P on September 24, 2015, 07:42:42 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on September 24, 2015, 07:54:16 PM
Yeah lots of idiots tried hunting Agnews land that was clearly posted. I was up there and there is no shortage of mature bulls, just gotta go where others can't. Only saw one raghorn, all the bulls I chased where big 5's or bigger. I've got multiseason do was being pickyIsn't there a forest service guy or warden watching for trespassers up there? I thought it was going to be watched pretty good by them.
Post by: Jeremiah P on September 24, 2015, 08:12:09 PM