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Community => Advocacy, Agencies, Access => Topic started by: PBR on April 19, 2015, 08:54:19 PM

Title: Trash dumpers
Post by: PBR on April 19, 2015, 08:54:19 PM: This was posting on Facebooks Puget Sound Gun Trader.

"Out shooting with friends near Rainer when these two asswipes show up and dump their trash next to our parking area. If you happen to know either please let them know that Thurston County Sheriff's Department was given the description of their trucks and their plate numbers as they were dumping the trash. They Deputy will be calling me later tonight for more info. Not only was my group involved in capturing them on film dumping the crap but others in the area as well.

Blue Chevy Silverado - WA License C23935C
Grey Dodge Ram - OR License 173GSU"

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Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: Knocker of rocks on April 19, 2015, 08:59:55 PM: Wow. Didn't even try to hide it
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 19, 2015, 09:06:13 PM: They could of recycled that :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: lamrith on April 19, 2015, 09:13:49 PM: DOH! You must have posted while I was doing mine..

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https://www.facebook.com/M1Gunr

Thurston County
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThurstonCountyGunsandSportingGoods/

Pierce County
https://www.facebook.com/groups/208315886003224/

Washington Gun Trader
https://www.facebook.com/groups/155230468614/
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: syoungs on April 19, 2015, 09:22:02 PM: Wow. Cant fix stupid I guess, that is crazy dumb.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: Angry Perch on April 20, 2015, 10:26:36 AM: Does that sticker really say "I like my deer like I like my women"? He's a real class act.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 20, 2015, 10:34:31 AM: That takes big stupidity! :yike: :bash:
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: brush hunter on April 20, 2015, 11:05:56 AM: And with kids in the truck :mor:...I'm not one who can stand by and watch this crap happen. I would have been all over them like stink on $...
Did the sheriff ever call back.

By the way How dare you shoot in there dumping area? :bdid:
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: PolarBear on April 20, 2015, 11:25:02 AM: Yeah, I've seen the guy round Rainier and Yelm. The next time I will stop and throw all of the trash from the back of my truck(pop cans, bailing twine and round bale netting) into his truck and see how he likes it.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: Mfowl on April 20, 2015, 11:42:48 AM: Truly pathetic right there! Good on you for turning them in! I hope they get the hat they deserve! Thank you!
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: bhawley76 on April 20, 2015, 12:28:12 PM: I hope they fine the hell out of this guy, and about 10,000 hours of community service picking up trash in that cute lil truck he's got. would be a good start. :bash:
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: coachcw on April 20, 2015, 01:11:20 PM: I guaranty you if I was there that stuff woulda went right back in there trucks !
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: WAPatriot on April 20, 2015, 01:21:39 PM: As much as it pisses me off these guys did this. It makes hunters look bad because that the guy is a hunter. Rather than whine about what some one does on the Internet stand up and tell them not to dump there crap there. You where armed and the guy was there with his family if you would have told him not here not today this whole incident could have been avoided now hunters have a black eye thanks to the photographer who decided to show pictures to the whole internet, just the cops would have been fine.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: Skillet on April 20, 2015, 01:48:35 PM: I couldn't disagree more. Threatening gunplay or even worse, getting into a shootin' match with dude over garbage is completely ridiculous.

The guy was caught in the act, it was documented, and his idiocy might act as a deterrent to future knuckleheads. I think this was the perfect way to handle it.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: lamrith on April 20, 2015, 02:25:12 PM: The OP posting this on this forum was NOT THERE in person, we are merely spreading the word.

This was at an active shooting pit, as bad as dumping is, getting into an altercation while armed over it is NOT the answer. As Skillet mentioned lots of photo evidence including picture of the trucks, plates and driver was obtained.

Someone approaching that person and starting an argument while armed makes them the aggressor and if something happened they would be the ones in jail, not the person dumping. This would not be a "stand your ground" situation if you start the altercation. Him having his family there would be even more reason for him to actually shoot YOU regardless of whether you were calling him out for illegal dumping or not. You are armed starting an argument, he has every reason to be concerned about his or his families safety.

Quote from: WAPatriot on April 20, 2015, 01:21:39 PM
As much as it pisses me off these guys did this. It makes hunters look bad because that the guy is a hunter. Rather than whine about what some one does on the Internet stand up and tell them not to dump there crap there. You where armed and the guy was there with his family if you would have told him not here not today this whole incident could have been avoided now hunters have a black eye thanks to the photographer who decided to show pictures to the whole internet, just the cops would have been fine.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: coachcw on April 20, 2015, 02:42:45 PM: That's the problem with this world nobody says sheet to people out of fear ! bare minimum you say looks like your setting a fine example for your kids filling our land with your garbage ... with that truck the guy could have afforded to dump it properly . our society has got to be such pussies ... dont step in attitude is bs . Lend a hand when people need one and let them know face to face when they are out of line . people remember when someone calls them out for there actions and people remember good acts like wise.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: bobcat on April 20, 2015, 02:45:52 PM: I wonder if the people dumping garbage felt it was okay and that they would get away with it because all the other people who were there were also breaking the law?

This is private property where people regularly target shoot, without having permission to do so. Therefore, everyone there that day is guilty of trespass.

Maybe the dumpers actually thought they were doing the shooters a favor, by supplying them with more targets to shoot at?
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: h20hunter on April 20, 2015, 02:48:14 PM: Maybe the text should read:

Out trespassing and littering while some others showed up to do the same.

Look at the shell husks laying on the ground and the background. Dollars to donuts much of that came from the very same people trespassing and shooting.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on April 20, 2015, 03:01:28 PM: I certainly do not condone anybody dumping trash on the side of the road; it sickens me to no end.... "but" if LeMay didn't have such a monopoly on the residential waste disposal business, the county landfills didn't charge 15-20 bucks to dump there, and if WA would adopt a program similar to Idaho that strategically places dumpsters on the side of road for folks to use, it may change the tide of the fools that dump their trash on the side of the road. Just another piece of info to think about.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: Skillet on April 20, 2015, 03:38:35 PM: Coach, nobody is saying this guy didn't deserve a few sharp words or a verbal dressing down. But the point I'm making is: does packing heat give a person the right to force somebody else to pick up trash? Or not dump it at all? This is what was advocated earlier.
And what if, after you tell the idiot to put his trash back in his truck, the guy spits a big glob of chew on your boot and says "Who's gonna make me?" Then what? You know everybody's armed there... how far does it need to be taken over trash?
I don't think making good, rational decisions in a situation like this could be used as an example of the "pussification of America." The guy took pics, turned them into the sheriff, then posted it all online. That's proactive and sends a message. You know this knucklehead is going to get his fines in the end.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: lamrith on April 20, 2015, 03:59:25 PM: Coach - I agree about the current "lack of personal and social responsibility" rampant in this country. At the same time escalating a situation like that I do not feel is worth it, not with the potential of severe injury or worse having firearms around for a trash offense. Lots of pictures were taken and authorities notified and they were pretty blasted on social media..

THAT SAID, there is good news!!
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Final Update:
The folks involved have returned and picked up their trash. I have not heard from the TCSO personally but pics have been provided of them returning empty and leaving with full beds of trash. He also posted on Facebook a halfass apology, he was told it was ok Blah blah.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: 2labs on April 20, 2015, 04:05:34 PM: Was told it was ok? Yea ok. Gotcha
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: Humptulips on April 20, 2015, 05:51:51 PM: Off to the next side road. :bash:
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 20, 2015, 10:56:51 PM: Quote from: Angry Perch on April 20, 2015, 10:26:36 AM
Does that sticker really say "I like my deer like I like my women"? He's a real class act.
Chopped up and in the freezer? :chuckle:
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: T Pearce on July 03, 2015, 08:49:19 PM: Quote from: JimmyHoffa on April 20, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: Angry Perch on April 20, 2015, 10:26:36 AM
Does that sticker really say "I like my deer like I like my women"? He's a real class act.
Chopped up and in the freezer? :chuckle:
Hooved maybe?

The way penalties go..... cost to legally dispose of garbage:$20.00
Fine/penalty if caught: $15.00

Simple economics.
Title: Re: Trash dumpers
Post by: gilroym on July 09, 2015, 07:00:33 AM: Quote from: T Pearce on July 03, 2015, 08:49:19 PM

Hooved maybe?

The way penalties go..... cost to legally dispose of garbage:$20.00
Fine/penalty if caught: $15.00

Simple economics.

the illegal dumping signs I have seen say $1000