Post by: LeviD1 on April 22, 2015, 10:00:52 AM
Post by: stew pidasso on April 23, 2015, 05:26:03 AM
Post by: huntnnw on April 23, 2015, 06:09:43 AM
A 50lb bag of trace minerals with selenium for $9 will do the trick and hell of alot cheaper..pretty much what your buying from these so called whitetail supplements
Post by: grundy53 on April 23, 2015, 06:20:36 AM
no thanks and the guys pushing it :rolleyes: the expert whitetail hunters who one of them just killed his first whitetail ever last season :chuckle:That's what I use.
A 50lb bag of trace minerals with selenium for $9 will do the trick and hell of alot cheaper..pretty much what your buying from these so called whitetail supplements
Post by: huntnnw on April 23, 2015, 06:25:29 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2015, 07:44:30 AM
That's what I use also.no thanks and the guys pushing it :rolleyes: the expert whitetail hunters who one of them just killed his first whitetail ever last season :chuckle:That's what I use.
A 50lb bag of trace minerals with selenium for $9 will do the trick and hell of alot cheaper..pretty much what your buying from these so called whitetail supplements
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 23, 2015, 07:46:22 AM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on April 23, 2015, 07:53:48 AM
Post by: CP on April 23, 2015, 08:13:21 AM
Post by: LeviD1 on May 04, 2015, 08:24:12 PM
I use the trace mineral block with selenium. Drip a little molasses on it and the elk & deer fight over it. About $8 at the feed store. Put it in the shed after the season and they last for years.
So I did buy a couple bags of trace mineral. But where do you get the calcium and phosphorus to add in your mineral licks? I would like to find a good supplement that has calcium and phosphorus to help with angle growth. Trace mineral doesn't have either one.
Thanks
Post by: huntnnw on May 04, 2015, 09:31:28 PM
I have read many studies on if mineral sites aid in antler growth and all of them said no or no actual evidence showing any effect. If you think about how much a buck spends at a site and frequency I dont know how it would. Most mature bucks literally spend minutes and are gone and dont hit them on a daily basis. During the green season till velvet comes off they eat 10-17lbs of food a day! what they consume on a daily basis is more important and the quality of that food they consume will have a far greater effect than a lick. Protein is king! increase the protein content of the feed and it will increase the size of the deer and antlers. Better off planting plots or fertilizing areas you hunt to make the food more nutritious.
Post by: LeviD1 on May 05, 2015, 06:42:49 AM
no idea on that
I have read many studies on if mineral sites aid in antler growth and all of them said no or no actual evidence showing any effect. If you think about how much a buck spends at a site and frequency I dont know how it would. Most mature bucks literally spend minutes and are gone and dont hit them on a daily basis. During the green season till velvet comes off they eat 10-17lbs of food a day! what they consume on a daily basis is more important and the quality of that food they consume will have a far greater effect than a lick. Protein is king! increase the protein content of the feed and it will increase the size of the deer and antlers. Better off planting plots or fertilizing areas you hunt to make the food more nutritious.
Oh I have made my plot and planted it 2 1/2 weeks ago that is high protein food. I know protein has a lot to do with it. But as far as mature bucks wont hit it on a daily basis I have to disagree. My site at my parents place has big bucks I have all year long lick on it at minimum ever other day. I just want them to have everything they possibly need is all. The blocks that had good calcium and phosphorus content I was buying last year north 40 no longer carries since the new owners.
Post by: huntnnw on May 05, 2015, 09:31:15 PM
Post by: LeviD1 on May 06, 2015, 06:02:39 AM
suburb deer vs mountain deer are different...My big bucks at my spots avg every 4-7 days hitting the site and its no more than 4-8 min. Come mid to late July it gets even worse as the lush green food dries up and by mid august dome bucks dont even hit them anymore
These deer are in mountains. I have that same problem in mid august. I get them almost every day till then. But that spot is just a meadow with grass in it they feed in. I need to plant it with something that has better nutrients to keep them around I think
Post by: grundy53 on May 06, 2015, 06:06:56 AM
Post by: LeviD1 on May 06, 2015, 10:53:25 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 06, 2015, 11:35:47 AM
I find that deer and elk pretty much quit hitting my mineral sites in August.
As soon as the velvet comes off the cravings go away.
Post by: LeviD1 on May 06, 2015, 04:10:08 PM
I find that deer and elk pretty much quit hitting my mineral sites in August.
As soon as the velvet comes off the cravings go away.
What keeps the in the area after that then? Just food source?
Post by: huntnnw on May 06, 2015, 09:59:28 PM
Elk seem to hit salt longer and more consistently than deer in sept and oct..we get pics of elk on all of our salts in Sept and Oct
Post by: jackelope on May 08, 2015, 08:12:36 AM
mt deer that I am referring to have never seen a ag field in their lives...Im talking in the middle of nowhere deer..those deer are completely different.
Elk seem to hit salt longer and more consistently than deer in sept and oct..we get pics of elk on all of our salts in Sept and Oct
Same for me in ag country.
Post by: jackelope on May 08, 2015, 08:15:16 AM
I find that deer and elk pretty much quit hitting my mineral sites in August.
As soon as the velvet comes off the cravings go away.
What keeps the in the area after that then? Just food source?
I don't know. I have pretty much only ever used salt at my camera sites. I don't bait those sites to hunt over, so I never really worried too much about hunting season timing. Last year I did have a buddy hunt one of them in a ground blind for a day or 2 and he dumped some bag of deer corn or something like that he bought at Walmart and they seemed to like that based on the pictures, but that was a 1 time deal.