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Title: 0 bear club
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 23, 2015, 09:19:29 PM
Seems like every avatar pic I see lately is a dead bear. I have never killed a bear personally and it got me thinking how many of us are members of the "0 Bear Club". I'm hoping to remove myself from the club this weekend, other members when do you hope to exit?
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: sled on April 23, 2015, 09:35:15 PM
  If it makes you feel better, I've been hunting since I was 14 on my own.  I'm 40 next month.  Last year I killed my first and second bear, along with a cougar.  It will never happen again like that.
  Keep trying and it will happen sometime.  The last 8 years I couldn't get bear off my mind.  Now I'm broke and owe big time to the taxi!
  Well worth it.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 23, 2015, 09:38:58 PM
I left your club in 1997 when I finally got serious about getting one.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 23, 2015, 09:40:15 PM
I've got a good buddy playing guide and taking me to his honey hole this weekend. He says he will be surprised if we don't tag at least 1 bear.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: bearmanric on April 23, 2015, 09:40:36 PM
1986 for me. Rick ;)
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 23, 2015, 09:53:26 PM
You guys are only proving my point, I need to kill a bear and soon
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: wheels on April 23, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
i hope to leave it between now and june 15
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on April 23, 2015, 10:15:55 PM
I left your club in 1997 when I finally got serious about getting one.  :chuckle:

1981 for me (bow).  Once the pressure is off and that first one is in the freezer they seem to come a lot easier.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Chesapeake on April 23, 2015, 11:55:33 PM
I grew up in SE Alaska, so I guess I cheated.
If you really want one get up above tree line in the berries come August. Pretty easy to see them in that kind of situation. If your willing to pack one out.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on April 24, 2015, 12:09:16 AM
I grew up in SE Alaska, so I guess I cheated.
If you really want one get up above tree line in the berries come August. Pretty easy to see them in that kind of situation. If your willing to pack one out.

If we get any berries.  Past five years ripe August berries have been hard to come by.

Has always amazed me how much heavier a pack full of bear meat is compared to a pack full of elk meat :chuckle:  Packing one out of the high country can be quite the good bit of work.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on April 24, 2015, 04:59:34 AM
1986 must have been a good year, my first bear was that year too!   You want bear?   Hunt them seriously like you would deer.  I think they are almost easier to get then deer.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on April 24, 2015, 05:04:08 AM
You want bear?   Hunt them seriously like you would deer.  I think they are almost easier to get then deer.

I agree!  Plus you don't have to waste time figuring out of they have three points or not.  Looks big enough...Boom!
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 24, 2015, 06:53:45 AM
Looks big enough...Boom!

Said 1,000 guys who shot a cub  :chuckle:  Ground shrinkage is a real deal in bear hunting.

I had a self defense situation last year that I should PM you about.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: ghosthunter on April 24, 2015, 07:13:10 AM
I am with you.
63 never shot one . Had several almost moments.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jrebel on April 24, 2015, 07:19:31 AM
First in 2012......hopefully the second next month. 
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Derailed on April 24, 2015, 07:24:26 AM
I have yet to get one.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: trophyhunt on April 24, 2015, 07:47:51 AM
Looks big enough...Boom!

Said 1,000 guys who shot a cub  :chuckle:  Ground shrinkage is a real deal in bear hunting.

I had a self defense situation last year that I should PM you about.
I think this comment is underrated, judging bears has got to be the hardest thing to do sometimes.  I've killed 5 bears and one was pretty darn small, they can fool you very easily if your newer to the situation.  The small one I killed was 550 yards away and he looked like a pig! Look for the head and if the ears look big, it's more than likely a small bear.  Look for small ears with space in between them.  And a sway to there walk, in the spring when you draw a tag, take your time and watch the bear.  Give some time for cubs to come into view or for a boar to bring up the rear (no pun intended)!  When you kill your first bear you'll never forget it, walking up to a dead bear is a bit different than walking up to a deer or an elk.  And if he/she does the death moan, you'll know it!
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: h20hunter on April 24, 2015, 07:49:48 AM
Only two to my name. I've been lucky.....right place right time. I think bear hunting in our state is under appreciated. Long season, ample hunting area, solid population, you can put your tag on any bear.

Walking up on a downed bear is indeed different.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 24, 2015, 07:54:59 AM
When you kill your first bear you'll never forget it, walking up to a dead bear is a bit different than walking up to a deer or an elk.

I was 20 yards away from my bull last fall when I put a finishing shot on him.  He kicked around and passed for a couple of minutes.  I pet him and thanked him as he died.

My first boar bear was close to 300# and I couldn't touch him for like 10 mins  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: trophyhunt on April 24, 2015, 07:57:10 AM
 :yeah: I've killed 3 of my bears in consecutive years within 200 yards of each other, two on the 1st of October and one on the 2nd.  They were killed in the alpine and the blue huckleberries were FAT, good eating bears.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: trophyhunt on April 24, 2015, 07:58:13 AM
When you kill your first bear you'll never forget it, walking up to a dead bear is a bit different than walking up to a deer or an elk.

I was 20 yards away from my bull last fall when I put a finishing shot on him.  He kicked around and passed for a couple of minutes.  I pet him and thanked him as he died.

My first boar bear was close to 300# and I couldn't touch him for like 10 mins  :chuckle:
That made me laugh, I've done the same thing!
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: luvmystang67 on April 24, 2015, 08:22:46 AM
If you target bears its not too hard.  If you hope to stumble across one deer hunting you may wait a while for the opportunity.  Since I've started bear hunting seriously 5 years ago I've either shot my own or shot D-Rocks :chuckle: every year.

Also, I would like to once again point out that since D-Rock met me, he has not killed a bear by himself.   :dunno:  Just sayin :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: trophyhunt on April 24, 2015, 09:08:38 AM
Look for this! (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F04%2F24%2F7a814e6b984e0cd4cc280ffd26ca3d5c.jpg&hash=a8e7f248103d6f8dfafe03790a0aaf15ce32341e).                     


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Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: lokidog on April 24, 2015, 09:18:19 AM
I'm in your club for WA.  I've seen two but could not get shots as I just had my bow.  My first was in 1980, then one in 1984 (both over bait in Ontario), and my last in 90 or 91 in OR with my bow.  Ten yards away, face to face with my bow,  I can't remember the year, but I sure remember that bear.....    :chuckle:

I'm going to try harder this year since I want to do corned bear.

Good luck OP, and anyone else chasing them this year.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Chesapeake on April 24, 2015, 09:56:09 AM
Look in this stuff in autumn.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1084.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj411%2FDieselchessy%2Fberries2%2520web_zpsilupnmuy.jpg&hash=3e67b38e0e6445048b4eb89f3fbf4c53c665e6cc) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Dieselchessy/media/berries2%20web_zpsilupnmuy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 24, 2015, 10:28:04 AM
Look in this stuff in autumn.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1084.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj411%2FDieselchessy%2Fberries2%2520web_zpsilupnmuy.jpg&hash=3e67b38e0e6445048b4eb89f3fbf4c53c665e6cc) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Dieselchessy/media/berries2%20web_zpsilupnmuy.jpg.html)

tough to find berries like that most years.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: vandeman17 on April 24, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
no bears for me but I have never seriously hunted them. My only times when I would even remotely say I was actually bear hunting was when I was hanging cameras and had my rifle because it was bear season. I will eventually get serious about getting a nice bear but not quite yet. We have a few bears on our property every year and I am confident I could kill one of them, just haven't had the desire yet.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Chesapeake on April 24, 2015, 11:19:22 AM
Look in this stuff in autumn.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1084.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj411%2FDieselchessy%2Fberries2%2520web_zpsilupnmuy.jpg&hash=3e67b38e0e6445048b4eb89f3fbf4c53c665e6cc) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Dieselchessy/media/berries2%20web_zpsilupnmuy.jpg.html)

tough to find berries like that most years.


I haven't noticed any lack of berries in my areas, but I primarily hunt the western slopes of the cascades. If memory serves that pic is from the Eastern slopes of the Cascades up near Leavenworth.
This pic is up near St. Helen's a year or so back. There was a temptingly large bear in this area, but I was elk hunting so let him walk. (I have no idea why I took pictures of berries. LOL!! Those bushes didn't look the same when I left.)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1084.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj411%2FDieselchessy%2FIMG_0396_zps4ihtfohr.jpg&hash=6b214eab91d550d1ecd7823ed9307a7d560eb666) (http://s1084.photobucket.com/user/Dieselchessy/media/IMG_0396_zps4ihtfohr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: pashok23 on April 24, 2015, 08:40:47 PM
I left your club last year on May 15th,so glad i did that  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: pd on April 24, 2015, 08:58:09 PM

Also, I would like to once again point out that since D-Rock met me, he has not killed a bear by himself.   :dunno:  Just sayin :IBCOOL:

Another reason why this forum is interesting.   :tung:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Ghost Hunter on April 25, 2015, 08:00:53 AM
Pushing 62 and hoping this is my year. :EAT:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Cylvertip on April 25, 2015, 08:22:48 AM
I'm a card carrying member.  :'( :bash:  Have never put in time to specifically hunt bear.  I will either screw up an elk hunt some time or get serious about it one year and put in some real effort.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: trophyhunt on April 25, 2015, 08:31:28 AM
I really don't know how to target them down low, but when the berries are ripe up high (4 to 6000ft) start glassing.  Those high country berry eating bears taste good. 
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: saylean on April 25, 2015, 08:35:26 AM
Almost tagged one last night....bugger just would present a shot. Stick with it, you'll get out of the club.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: skagitsteel on April 25, 2015, 01:34:16 PM
I left your club in 1997 when I finally got serious about getting one.  :chuckle:

1981 for me (bow).  Once the pressure is off and that first one is in the freezer they seem to come a lot easier.


I agree with that!  Way easier once you have done it.  I missed two shots because I was so nervous before I tagged one. 
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: ridgefire on April 25, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
1 for 1 on bears for me. Went out towards sultan a few years back and saw 3 and shot one. Heard it breaking huckleberry bushes so snuck up and shot it from 30 yards with my 30-30. Have deer hunted in the same area and also saw bears but never have hunted them since killing the one. One of these years i may try getting one with my bow.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on April 26, 2015, 06:59:52 PM
well after a tough weekend I am still a member of the club, saw 2 cubs around noon saturday they were cute little fellers playing on a ridgetop then I heard a vocalization of some sort and they dropped into the next drainage after momma. About 45 min later I spotted a matched set of elk sheds laying halfway up the opposite ridge, committed the location to memory and planned to return on my way back to camp. After that I went a little farther and sat down to eat lunch when it decided to start raining, I donned my rain gear and quickly decided I wanted to just head back for camp, so I dove off of the ridge I was on and headed for my elk sheds. As I neared the creek bottom, fighting my way through buckbrush a large cinnamon phase bear jumped out of the buckbrush about 150 yards to my right. I gave him 2 very poor parting shots(out of breath, off hand at a running bear) and watched him round a bend. I worked my way to where I had last seen him through more buckbrush and found his tracks (about 8" long and 4" across at the toes) followed them to the last place I'd seen him and confirmed there was no blood, then decided it was time to go get my elk sheds and head back to camp. This was definitely his bedroom and main dining area both so I'm bummed that I bumped him out of it. Hopefully when I try again in 2 weeks he will be back again
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: elkrack on April 27, 2015, 06:54:15 AM
I missed my first bear yesterday! kinda a downer :bash:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: trophyhunt on April 27, 2015, 06:59:36 AM
I missed my first bear yesterday! kinda a downer :bash:
Maybe a case of the nerves???  Don't beat yourself up too bad, you'll get another crack at it! 
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Maverick on April 27, 2015, 09:40:37 AM
I've never killed a bear. Hoping that changes this fall.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: elkrack on April 27, 2015, 01:07:25 PM
I missed my first bear yesterday! kinda a downer :bash:
Maybe a case of the nerves???  Don't beat yourself up too bad, you'll get another crack at it!

You could say there were some nerves >:(
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Bean Counter on April 27, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
 :hello: checking in. I wouldn't mind killing a bear but don't even put in for the tag.

Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen a bear in the wild  :o
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on April 27, 2015, 01:23:12 PM
I missed my first bear yesterday! kinda a downer :bash:
Maybe a case of the nerves???  Don't beat yourself up too bad, you'll get another crack at it!
You could say there were some nerves >:(


I have witnessed a lot of misses on bear.  Especially a hunters first bear.  Few animals get the hunter as torn between anxiety, fear and excitement as does a bear.  The internet world is filled with false vibrato, nerves of steel and certified snipers where success is a given 100% of the time.  The world of reality is much more exciting and it does get the best of us all sooner or later.

I was lucky enough to kill the first bear I ever shot at.  For some odd reason the excitement didn't hit me until the arrow hit the bear.  Took me almost an hour before I felt safe to get down out of the tree.  That wasn't because I feared the bear.  It was because my legs turned to noodles, my hand strength could barely hold the bow and the shakes were dang near enough to rattle me right off the stand.  No other big game animal has done that to me with such vigor...one of the greatest experiences of my life!

Congratulations in getting yourself in position to get off a shot.  Sounds like it was worth every curse word afterward!  Your heart should be better prepared for the next one.  Good luck :tup:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: elkrack on April 27, 2015, 01:44:54 PM
I missed my first bear yesterday! kinda a downer :bash:
Maybe a case of the nerves???  Don't beat yourself up too bad, you'll get another crack at it!
You could say there were some nerves >:(


I have witnessed a lot of misses on bear.  Especially a hunters first bear.  Few animals get the hunter as torn between anxiety, fear and excitement as does a bear.  The internet world is filled with false vibrato, nerves of steel and certified snipers where success is a given 100% of the time.  The world of reality is much more exciting and it does get the best of us all sooner or later.

I was lucky enough to kill the first bear I ever shot at.  For some odd reason the excitement didn't hit me until the arrow hit the bear.  Took me almost an hour before I felt safe to get down out of the tree.  That wasn't because I feared the bear.  It was because my legs turned to noodles, my hand strength could barely hold the bow and the shakes were dang near enough to rattle me right off the stand.  No other big game animal has done that to me with such vigor...one of the greatest experiences of my life!

Congratulations in getting yourself in position to get off a shot.  Sounds like it was worth every curse word afterward!  Your heart should be better prepared for the next one.  Good luck :tup:


That is well written! Spot on. i learned a couple things for next time
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: luvmystang67 on April 27, 2015, 02:28:45 PM
Nothing to turn your legs to noodles like the first bear you shoot looking at you in the dark and blinking at 30 yards and then jumping up to run away from you (thankfully). 

Note: I stuck my nose in the bushes and considered going in after it.  Thankfully D-Rock made me wait.  It died about 10' inside of those bushes.   :yike:

The fear makes it more exciting I think.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jrebel on April 27, 2015, 02:45:31 PM
My first and only bear did the "Death Bawl" and I didn't know what it meant.  I waited an hour before going to look for it and even then was scared for my life.   :chuckle:  Told my wife if she hears gunfire and me yelling to wait 10 minutes and if she didn't here from me to go for help.  I have never been so unnerved while looking for down game.   :yike: :yike:  I was crawling through the tunnels those darn things make in the brush with my 45/70 thinking there was no way to swing the rifle such tight quarters.  I now bear hunt with a 454 casual (as back up) for these recovery missions.   :chuckle: :chuckle:

Talk about the adrenalin rush.  :tup:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on April 27, 2015, 02:56:09 PM
I now bear hunt with a 454 casual (as back up) for these recovery missions.   :chuckle: :chuckle:

I've had to tag a few of them in those tunnels.  Makes for some real undy wetters :chuckle:  Pistol is the way to go in there.  I carried a 444 Marlin Trapper in the trees and a 1911 in the tunnels.  Both worked very well at less than 10 feet.  I hate to see animals suffer, but when the unexpected happens I love me some up close bear action.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: trophyhunt on April 27, 2015, 03:29:13 PM
I missed my first bear yesterday! kinda a downer :bash:
Maybe a case of the nerves???  Don't beat yourself up too bad, you'll get another crack at it!

You could say there were some nerves >:(
The first bear I had a chance to shoot was in green water, perfect situation, saw a big bear sitting on his butt eating huckleberries.  I was prob 17 years old, had a good rest and missed it twice!  It was only about 150 yards away, I bet w bear more people miss their first chance than any animal? 
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: LeviD1 on April 27, 2015, 08:44:51 PM
I saw earlier in the post look at the head for size which for sure do that. Bigger the ears the smaller the bear. But also look at how tall they look, a bigger older bear will have a lower belly and a younger bear will look taller. I have never hunted be a in spring but have shot 3 so far the past 5 years. Pretty much ever since I started get to more serious in my hunting and spending more time in the woods. Good luck to you all I hope you get one though! I wish the unit I hunt had a spring bear  >:(
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: kukusya on April 28, 2015, 09:48:31 AM

I've had to tag a few of them in those tunnels.  Makes for some real undy wetters :chuckle:  Pistol is the way to go in there.  I carried a 444 Marlin Trapper in the trees and a 1911 in the tunnels.  Both worked very well at less than 10 feet.  I hate to see animals suffer, but when the unexpected happens I love me some up close bear action.


What caliber 1911 do you use?
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on April 28, 2015, 12:04:00 PM
What caliber 1911 do you use?

Who would have thunk back then we would ever be asked that question?  There really is only one 1911, isn't there? :chuckle:

I did have a Delta Elite 10mm that I was very fond of, but it never saw any bear action.  I would like to get another one of those.  Would feel plenty confident tracking bear with that round.  MY old OSP gamie friend says he thinks it is superior to the .45 ACP for such things.  That is after putting down a lot of animals struck by vehicles.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: D-Rock425 on April 28, 2015, 12:48:30 PM
I really want a 10mm.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: h20hunter on April 28, 2015, 01:26:44 PM
Carp is selling a Kimber in 10....step up and pay up!
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on April 28, 2015, 02:26:01 PM
Carp is selling a Kimber in 10....step up and pay up!

Thanks, that one will do.  It ain't no Delta Elite, but at $1,000 less who can pass that up? :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: JJB11B on April 28, 2015, 02:33:35 PM
Ive decided that I will stay in the club until I can afford to pay for the skull mount and rugging
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: LeviD1 on April 28, 2015, 05:05:47 PM
Ive decided that I will stay in the club until I can afford to pay for the skull mount and rugging

It gets spendy especially when they have nice hides. I have to get at least a rug made and always get all my predator skulls done besides coyotes.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: sled on April 28, 2015, 05:36:21 PM
Ive decided that I will stay in the club until I can afford to pay for the skull mount and rugging
. Good idea.  Gets expensive.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: mountainman on April 28, 2015, 06:27:19 PM
#25 last year
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jrebel on April 28, 2015, 07:58:31 PM
#25 last year

Stop bragging.... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  I'm hoping for 2 and 3 this year.  #2 hopefully next week.  :tup:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jpharcher on April 28, 2015, 08:35:16 PM
2006 was my year.
28 yard shot from my bow, bear jumped twice as high as he was tall, let out a god awful growl and took off running.
Waited 30 minutes and the arrival of my hunting partner before I moved.
Bear ended up piling up about 30 yards from where I shot him, double lung, heart.....lucky shot!
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jrebel on April 28, 2015, 08:42:38 PM
Either that is an absolutely HUGE bear....or you are a midget????  Which one is it????   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  We need more information on that brute.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jpharcher on April 28, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
I am 5'11"s and not long arming it....lol
His skull measured 18 14/16ths 3 years after he went on the wall.
It took 6 of us to carry him out of the woods in a litter.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jpharcher on April 28, 2015, 09:09:48 PM
last one.....
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on April 28, 2015, 09:56:19 PM
Bear ended up piling up about 30 yards from where I shot him, double lung, heart.....lucky shot!

You get heart or both lungs and bear really go down quick with the bow.  But, like elk, make a bad shot or get just one lung and you can be in for some tracking and excitement!  I'd bet every bow shot bear I have had to put down for someone I was told they made a perfect heart lung shot before we started tracking. :chuckle:  All of them were shot either too high or too far back.  It's a good idea for new bear hunters to study bear anatomy whether shooting a gun or a bow.

Bear have small lungs and a rather good sized heart.  They also have a large belly and deceivingly long hair most of the time.  The stomach pushes most everything forward tight to the shoulder.  If you try to place a shot behind the front leg broadside chances are you are going to only get liver.  If you are lucky you will get the diaphragm.  That is why we bowhunters should always let a bear move that front leg forward before taking the shot.

Shots angled toward the hunter are rarely good shots with a bow, but I actually like them a lot with a gun.  Even if slightly angled toward the hunter and you place an arrow tight behind the shoulder you will only get one lung and likely miss the heart completely.  If you feel you must take that shot with the bow it's usually better to try going inside the shoulder rather than outside the shoulder.  That is the shot I took on my monster nuisance bear.  He was seven or eight yards when the arrow hit, tried to make a run at me (or the trail I was on anyway) and he ran out of gas before he made it there.  Died about 8 feet from me!  Talk about exciting :chuckle:

For the best chance at success and a quick kill with a bow there is a simple trick - Never aim for the shoulder closest to you!  Always aim at a broadside or quartering bear by trying to break the opposite shoulder. 

If your arrow, or even bullet, can break that opposite shoulder you are assured of betting both lungs and the aortic arch if not the heart directly.  If your shot is steep down hill try to put the arrow so it is exiting out the front half of the opposite armpit.  No such thing as a bad blood trail if you get that arrow out that armpit from above!  Though likely you won't have to blood trail at all if your broadhead is good and sharp.

I don't normally agree with a lot of the IBEF/NBEF anatomy posters.  But they did a good job with their bear pictures.  Notice how almost all vitals are directly above the front leg.  Not much there behind the leg, is there?
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: luvmystang67 on April 30, 2015, 11:10:25 AM
Thanks for the pic.

I feel like after deer and elk hunting all my life I've continuously shot low and back on bear.  You need to aim high and forward compared to where you're used to aiming on deer and elk.  At least, that is the rule I've set for myself.  The hair and lack of shoulder definition often make this sound easier than it is.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: tgomez on May 16, 2015, 07:49:32 PM
Never harvested a bear, ive missed 5 of em. :bash: all 400plus yard shots. But i have watched my father kill 3 right in front of me. And ive had 4 different other hunters get them in our camp while hunting them. I hope to get my first this fall. Im ready to break the curse. :tup:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on May 16, 2015, 08:19:36 PM
Never harvested a bear, ive missed 5 of em. :bash: all 400plus yard shots. But i have watched my father kill 3 right in front of me. And ive had 4 different other hunters get them in our camp while hunting them. I hope to get my first this fall. Im ready to break the curse. :tup:

Getting inside 50 yards is a good way to break the curse :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: bearpaw on May 16, 2015, 08:40:35 PM
left the club at age 12
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: rtspring on May 16, 2015, 09:17:50 PM
Took me 41 years
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: pd on May 16, 2015, 09:24:08 PM
RT he would have been more comfortable on that chaise lounge.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: WA hunter14 on May 16, 2015, 09:27:42 PM
im so deep inside the no bear club its rediculouse, god does not want me to kill a bear !!
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: magnumb on May 16, 2015, 10:42:59 PM
im so deep inside the no bear club its rediculouse, god does not want me to kill a bear !!


If true and you can truly embrace that, just think about all those mornings you can now just sleep in...... :tup:.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on May 16, 2015, 11:29:50 PM
im so deep inside the no bear club its rediculouse, god does not want me to kill a bear !!
If true and you can truly embrace that, just think about all those mornings you can now just sleep in...... :tup:.

 :chuckle: :chuckle:

One of the reasons I like bear hunting...if you sleep in you haven't lost your advantage at all.  Not exactly sure why it is, but we have never killed a bear over 300# in the morning.  Big boys just seem to love the afternoon! :dunno:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Romulus1297 on May 17, 2015, 12:27:48 AM
Right before sunset is the best time to process a hide  :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: magnumb on May 17, 2015, 12:33:38 AM
im so deep inside the no bear club its rediculouse, god does not want me to kill a bear !!
If true and you can truly embrace that, just think about all those mornings you can now just sleep in...... :tup:.

 :chuckle: :chuckle:

One of the reasons I like bear hunting...if you sleep in you haven't lost your advantage at all.  Not exactly sure why it is, but we have never killed a bear over 300# in the morning.  Big boys just seem to love the afternoon! :dunno:


I believe that's more true than not..... ;).

Having said that, I started my scouting a bit late yesterday and didn't get to the mountain range I hunt until about 1:15PM.  At 1:30 ('cuz I always keep times and locations of game sightings), I hit the '** mile' marker travelin' slowly in my truck and just around the corner about 30 yards in front of my lady friend and myself, the largest, most beautiful, healthy, indigo shiny black bear had just decided that the middle of that loggin' road just wasn't his thing.

I wouldn't say he 'blew out', but he certainly didn't take his time either.  Over 4 decades of huntin' and I've seen probably 25+ bears and none came close to matching the size nor condition that this bear displayed......bar none!  Even though it was a only a full right side viewing of this majestic animal and only for a few seconds, it was enough to truly impress us both (she had spent a great deal of outdoor time in Idaho).  Huge, thick, short legs, his body/hair somewhat moved in waves as he sauntered off the road into the thick undergrowth as if he'd never missed a meal or anyone else's and his hair was a ultra shiny, jet black.  Oh boy.......... :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:.

For my own reasons that I can't explain nor feel the need to do so, I have passed on all five 'coug's that I've seen (4 quite shootable) and all 25+ bears that I've come across (the vast majority also quite shootable) in these last 40+ years of hunting.  Granted, a few of those sightings were not during hunting season for those animals, but many were during season and I had valid tags for both cougar and bear.  I have never had any issue with droppin' the hammer on bucks, bulls and a bunch of other game, waterfowl, predators, varmints, etc., but never really could 'justify' to myself, the taking of something this large that I really knew that I wasn't going to really enjoy eating.......if eaten at all.  If I've talked to 100 guys about eatin' bear, I'll bet 95 of them placed bear dead last on their 'favorite' game meat list.  Not encouraging, but as usual, it's somewhat saving grace was the typical comment, "it makes great jerky or summer sausage!!".  What doesn't if seasoned enough and done right......OK, coots probably don't....... :yike:.

Well, since the #'s of bear and cougar sightings has dramatically risen for me these last several years and the deer populations in my usual and accustomed hunting haunts have dramatically declined, my position and or insights on the matter has changed with the realization that this correlation seems pretty darn near......indisputable.

As luck would have it, last year (again during open season for coug's), I saw the largest cat of the five that I have ever seen.  Again.....a truly gorgeous specimen observed, no less, on public lands while scouting for deer.  He looked like an artists rendering of what a cougar looks like after living at and eating deer which have only been residents of Hanford all of their lives.  Funny thing (not ha-ha funny, however), this particular area where I saw this cat, once held large populations of blacktails.  For the last several years, most people who know the area like myself could not figure out what was going on...?  I think that I now know.......ya think?  And truth be told, it would be my guess from seeing that particular cougar last year, that he himself, all alone, has eaten every single deer on that entire mountain range....... :yike:.  Again.....Oh boy... :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:.

Sooooo.......off come the gloves and I'm looking forward to more actual huntin' days and opportunities.  Instead of just pre-scoutin' deer for months prior to the season, I can spice things up a bit in August and Sept.  I have taken many bucks that I've 'stayed with' for several weeks before the season opener and truly enjoy the accomplishment.  I have a feelin' however, that 'stayin' with' Mr. Huge Bear won't be nearly as easy and 'stayin' with' Mr. Obese Cougar will be darn near impossible.

But I do like a good challenge.......or two....... :tup:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on May 17, 2015, 12:49:19 AM
September and October bear in the high huckleberries will change your impressions on eating bear meat.  It was very close to making my top three on the "Favorite Wild Game" thread.  Burger, ham, steaks, sausage, pepperoni...all delightful!  I'm sure it would take #2 on my wife's list!  Does take a little more in processing correctly due to all the trimming and avoiding cutting bones with a saw.  But man!!!  It is worth every morsel. :drool:  Offer me huckleberry bear or beef and I'm choosing bear...yep, that good :tup:

BTW...Bear jerky - not my favorite.  But coot sausage is pretty darn good :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Romulus1297 on May 17, 2015, 12:50:21 AM
Good luck I do not need 3 life size bear mounts :sry:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: magnumb on May 17, 2015, 12:52:28 AM
September and October bear in the high huckleberries will change your impressions on eating bear meat.  It was very close to making my top three on the "Favorite Wild Game" thread.  Burger, ham, steaks, sausage, pepperoni...all delightful!  I'm sure it would take #2 on my wife's list!  Does take a little more in processing correctly due to all the trimming and avoiding cutting bones with a saw.  But man!!!  It is worth every morsel. :drool:  Offer me huckleberry bear or beef and I'm choosing bear...yep, that good :tup:


And you seemed to be one of a very few believable, honest members here on HW.....now what......... :dunno:


We do, however, share the same propensity for never giving, "short, simple answers".......... :tup:.

If I could break up most of my posts into the average length post here on HW, I'd be close to 10k by now........ :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on May 17, 2015, 01:05:43 AM
 :tung:  Call me when you shoot a nice huckleberry bear.  We'll cook some up and have a party!


Off topic story:
First date with the wife we went to a Chinese restaurant.  I ordered broccoli beef.  The wife looks completely disgusted with me.  "How can you eat that green nasty stuff?", she asked.  Not thinking I asked the stupid question, "Have you ever eaten broccoli before?"  Her answer was.....Yep, you guessed it..."No". :chuckle: :chuckle:  After insisting she try some she decided I wasn't completely crazy.

Fast forward a year and we started living together.  To my surprise, and delight, she fixed broccoli about three days a week.  One of her favorite vegetables now!  Silly girl.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: magnumb on May 17, 2015, 01:12:08 AM
:tung:  Call me when you shoot a nice huckleberry bear.  We'll cook some up and have a party!


Off topic story:
First date with the wife we went to a Chinese restaurant.  I ordered broccoli beef.  The wife looks completely disgusted with me.  "How can you eat that green nasty stuff?", she asked.  Not thinking I asked the stupid question, "Have you ever eaten broccoli before?"  Her answer was.....Yep, you guessed it..."No". :chuckle: :chuckle:  After insisting she try some she decided I wasn't completely crazy.

Fast forward a year and we started living together.  To my surprise, and delight, she fixed broccoli about three days a week.  One of her favorite vegetables now!  Silly girl.


So what........I've got to sleep with you before I can appreciate bear....... :yike:.

Being fairly recently divorced, that could be the best clandestine offer that I'm gonna get.....LOL.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on May 17, 2015, 02:07:48 AM
:yike:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: magnumb on May 17, 2015, 08:13:29 AM
Thank goodness...... :chuckle:.

In all seriousness........do you pass on the earliest bear seasons and only hunt the later/berry producing season for the 'taste' preference or perhaps for the coat.....?

Was this bears coat, from my description, unusually nice for an early spring bear coat and would you expect it to be even more desirable during the berry season....?

Thanks RadSav......... ;).
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on May 17, 2015, 08:44:52 AM
I've seen great coats in Spring and in August.  But, for some reason you can find some trouble in early bear when you send them out for tanning.  If the tannery uses a rotary fleshing tool those early bear seem to lose a lot of hair.  If sending those early bear out for a rug or mount be really diligent on using a taxi with a good reputation like Cedar River or equivalent.  Late bear seem to have less of a problem with it.

Everything revolves around berries for us when hunting fall bear in Washington.  Not that I won't tag a good bear if one walks in front of me as darn near all of them taste good to me.  But we don't normally hunt bear exclusively until the berries really come in strong and ripe.  Plus the later you get into the season the bigger they get.  Wife's big monster I took 80# of fat off him.  He was not a really old bear and skull barely made 18".  But his live weight was at least 450#.  I'd bet three months earlier he was closer to 380.  He was delicious!! ;)
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: magnumb on May 17, 2015, 10:37:59 AM
Good info, for sure.....thanks!

Headin' up 'his a way' in a few minutes, we'll see if I can find some others or perhaps even start to pattern him, if that's even a prudent approach on bear this time of the year.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: boneaddict on May 17, 2015, 10:45:22 AM
Saw a bear at about 20 feet Friday.  Baited him in with my smoked salmon lunch.  I was sitting on a rock eating and enjoying the view when I heard him moving.   All of a sudden he pocked his head out with his nose in the air sniffing.  Apparantly the smoked fish was more appealing than my pungent odor.    He had a gorgeous coat.   
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jrebel on May 17, 2015, 11:22:43 AM
Saw a bear at about 20 feet Friday.  Baited him in with my smoked salmon lunch.  I was sitting on a rock eating and enjoying the view when I heard him moving.   All of a sudden he pocked his head out with his nose in the air sniffing.  Apparantly the smoked fish was more appealing than my pungent odor.    He had a gorgeous coat.   

Were are the pics....Pics or it didn't happen.   :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: boneaddict on May 17, 2015, 11:54:44 AM
I wish,  Green foreground and the Stuarts in the backdrop, extremely clear air because of the previous days rain, no dust.  Bear sniffing me at 20 feet.  Book or magazine cover in the making.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: steen on May 17, 2015, 10:09:49 PM
Left the club in 2012 at age 48. I did have an opportunity in 2001 but passed on her because she had second year cubs, my husband didn't have a problem with it though.  Never hunted them but this one turned up during a second deer draw tag hunt.  Cinnamon/Blonde bear.  Not big and a little hair rub on the shoulders but really cool.  Did a rug and love it! I was pretty excited. I waited about a half hour.  It is a little unnerving coming up on a bear rather than deer cause it is more likely to come after you.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: huntnnw on May 17, 2015, 10:15:56 PM
September and October bear in the high huckleberries will change your impressions on eating bear meat.  It was very close to making my top three on the "Favorite Wild Game" thread.  Burger, ham, steaks, sausage, pepperoni...all delightful!  I'm sure it would take #2 on my wife's list!  Does take a little more in processing correctly due to all the trimming and avoiding cutting bones with a saw.  But man!!!  It is worth every morsel. :drool:  Offer me huckleberry bear or beef and I'm choosing bear...yep, that good :tup:

BTW...Bear jerky - not my favorite.  But coot sausage is pretty darn good :chuckle:

NOT ME!.. Ive had many bears and its not my thing...It is all made into sausage and I love it that way.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: magnumb on May 17, 2015, 11:16:48 PM
No love today, but I did circle the wagons and can see why he certainly spends a bit of time in that particular area.

I did come across momma grouse and her 10-12 golf sized, neurotic chicks, however....... :chuckle:.  Cute or what...... :).  If she stood just a bit taller and confronted me as she did, I might have taken shelter in my truck!   She blew up to be about as big as she could, started tellin' me off and stood her ground at no more than 5 feet from me while standing in front of her.  Every move I made, however slowly, she would cut me off if I was headed in the general direction of her chicks.  'Course, they were so scattered by that time, so any move I made was in the direction of one or more of her chicks.

She never backed down prior to me headin' for my truck.  I've had scoldings before, but this bordered on 'hunter abuse'..... :yike:.

I truly enjoyed that encounter and it was not nearly a first for me, but they all are very cool interactions and made my whole day worthwhile..... :tup:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: tgomez on May 21, 2015, 06:22:29 PM
Never harvested a bear, ive missed 5 of em. :bash: all 400plus yard shots. But i have watched my father kill 3 right in front of me. And ive had 4 different other hunters get them in our camp while hunting them. I hope to get my first this fall. Im ready to break the curse. :tup:

Getting inside 50 yards is a good way to break the curse :chuckle:
Ive almost hit one on a 80 Susuki dirtbike while driving up logging roads in 105 Kelly Hill area. There are a TON of bear up their by the Canadian border. Ones got my name on their hide this fall.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: xXLojackXx on May 21, 2015, 09:21:02 PM

Said 1,000 guys who shot a cub  :chuckle: 


Ahh the infamous "Hunt Wa 300lb bear"
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: cryder on May 26, 2015, 04:33:09 PM
How did we go from people with no bears to people who cant make up there minds whats a good bear and what isn't, anyways im a no bear guy but just this year is my second try ever so gimme a minute weee yu !! :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Jarhead Chase on May 26, 2015, 08:35:24 PM
I will remain a member of the 0 bear club until I can set aside the money (3 kids, 2 on the way) to have the taxidermy done well. I may have to give up hunting a few other things for a season to be able to swing that, but as it stands I just have too much fun chasing whitetails and turkeys to give it up for a season.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: jasnt on May 26, 2015, 08:59:46 PM
I left that club in 2013. Got my second in 2014. Looking forward to 2015
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Ripper on May 27, 2015, 09:59:13 AM
Left the club in 2010. 2009 was the first year I targeted them specifically. I have never seen one while hunting deer or elk.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: luvmystang67 on May 27, 2015, 12:30:10 PM
Once you start targeting them you see a lot of deer.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: RadSav on May 27, 2015, 12:58:20 PM
Once you start targeting them you see a lot of deer.   :chuckle:

 :chuckle:  So true!
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: gilroym on June 01, 2015, 07:07:18 AM
plan on putting in the work this fall. Its on the top of my list of game to hunt.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on June 01, 2015, 10:57:02 AM
Just an update, I left the club May 31st 2015. Took a young boar(idfg says he looks to be about 3 years old), chocolate color phase. Put a lot of miles on my boots this spring just to end up shooting one on the last day I was able to hunt literally with moments left and within about 300 yards of camp. I'll post more along with pics later if I can figure out how
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: elkrack on June 01, 2015, 12:00:10 PM
Nice! Waiting to see some pics.  :tup:
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: huntingbaldguy on June 16, 2015, 03:50:29 AM
I've never got a bear.  Hoping that changes with a bit of luck in August.
Title: Re: 0 bear club
Post by: Ghost Hunter on June 16, 2015, 04:30:17 PM
I'll keep trying in the fall.  I think I'm done with the spring draws, and a couple others
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