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Title: North Bend wolf
Post by: jackelope on April 27, 2015, 05:48:12 PM
Just heard there was a wolf killed by a car in north bend today. Confirmed by a WDFW biologist.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: jackelope on April 27, 2015, 05:52:38 PM
I should clarify and say that I was told a WDFW biologist confirmed that it was a wolf.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: kodiak 907 on April 27, 2015, 05:53:33 PM
Give that driver a pay raise and the rest of the week off :brew:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: grundy53 on April 27, 2015, 06:02:02 PM
:yeah:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: UBA on April 27, 2015, 06:02:57 PM
It was only a matter of time 
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Eli346 on April 27, 2015, 06:03:04 PM
Was it the black one that was reported yesterday on this site?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: kodiak 907 on April 27, 2015, 06:09:24 PM
hopefully all of them try to migrate over on 90.... In the middle of the road.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: trophyhunt on April 27, 2015, 06:21:39 PM
Good lord, in North Bend?? You know, I hate to wish bad things on people, but these A holes that wanted wolves in our state need to get bit in the AZZ with one of these POS.  Great fricken idea, bring wolves back! Friggin morons!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: kodiak 907 on April 27, 2015, 06:24:25 PM
Please make it to belltown... Please make it to beltown... Please make it to belltown
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: trophyhunt on April 27, 2015, 06:28:28 PM
Please make it to belltown... Please make it to beltown... Please make it to belltown
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: Unfortunately, it's not just the Seattle population that want's wolves, few guys on here also didn't mind the idea either.  :bash:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: danderson on April 27, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
That's a shame, the place that there needed the most and it get gets hit by a vehicle
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: 2labs on April 27, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Ssshh. Another post  last week. Don't tell. Plenty of goodies in the shed.

And you 40 minus. Guys have know idea what's in that " Shed"

World record Rosie?
World record Blackie?
Chester morse.
Lake Walsh.........best trout fishing this side of Illamna Alaska
Let the dogs have it!!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Ridgerunner on April 27, 2015, 06:48:44 PM
Wonder what pack it was from. 
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: tracksoup on April 27, 2015, 06:51:30 PM
 That's to bad. I hope the car is ok..
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Brushbuster on April 27, 2015, 06:55:34 PM
My nephew was westbound I-90 off the pass yesterday. He & his wife said they saw a black wolf. I didn't believe them. I'll be darned!!  What do kids know?  :o  :chuckle:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Tbar on April 27, 2015, 07:46:29 PM
Congrats to the lucky driver!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: bugs n bones on April 27, 2015, 08:06:33 PM
That's a shame, the place that there needed the most and it get gets hit by a vehicle
why does north bend need therm?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: RG on April 27, 2015, 09:24:53 PM
I saw that wolf yesterday.  6 miles east of North Bend at MP 41.  It was standing on the north side of I 90 by the ditch.  It was all black and I was really hoping it was going to try to cross the road.  It didn't.  Apparently today was its day.  Oh well, 1 down, on to the next. 
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Little Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:30:55 PM
Saw one cross the road just now.  9:22 pm.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Turner89 on April 27, 2015, 09:37:20 PM
Saw one cross the road just now.  9:22 pm.
where?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Little Dave on April 27, 2015, 09:44:58 PM
Attaching a marked map.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Dan-o on April 27, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
It will be very interesting if this is confirmed by the state......
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: 2labs on April 27, 2015, 09:51:09 PM
East and west on the map?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: 2labs on April 27, 2015, 09:52:57 PM
Never mind, know where it's at
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 27, 2015, 09:53:35 PM
Think this is the time that a lot of wolves go lone, leaving behind the wolves that are selected to whelp pups.  So I would assume lots of singles roaming until they pack up again in late Oct/Nov.  So, discriminate on the brakes....
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Ridgerunner on April 27, 2015, 09:55:41 PM
geez sounds like there might be a north bend pack.  They will never find them in the brush, that's for sure.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: mfswallace on April 27, 2015, 09:57:03 PM
3,2,1 .....
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: 2labs on April 27, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
And they were griping about elk on there golf course!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Little Dave on April 27, 2015, 10:03:46 PM
Heading over there.  Have a few places to check.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: 2labs on April 27, 2015, 10:06:40 PM
Drive slow and drag a ankle biter!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: 6haase6 on April 27, 2015, 10:16:59 PM
Saw it on my way this morning.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: jackelope on April 27, 2015, 10:18:58 PM
It will be very interesting if this is confirmed by the state......

I was told it was confirmed by a state biologist.

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Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: X-Force on April 27, 2015, 10:32:41 PM
It will be very interesting if this is confirmed by the state......

I was told it was confirmed by a state biologist.

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Unless it was collared or tagged how would they know already. Genetic tests would take a while.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: AspenBud on April 27, 2015, 11:21:13 PM
Wolves hit and killed by cars as they get closer to the west side... Gosh, there's a shock. What's next? Parvo from pet dogs, people with guns, common industrial poisons not targeted at them, and who knows what else killing them in higher numbers in a land area smaller than where they have occurred and with more people than Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, and eastern Washington combined?

Wolves will have a hard time west of the mountains. Sheer people numbers packed a much smaller space will ensure that.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: RadSav on April 28, 2015, 04:04:24 AM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: bearpaw on April 28, 2015, 04:06:00 AM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

That will help with the process.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: rasbo on April 28, 2015, 04:31:30 AM
hope it wasn't a white driver that hit the black wolf,film at eleven
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: bearpaw on April 28, 2015, 04:35:12 AM
hope it wasn't a white driver that hit the black wolf,film at eleven

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: usmc74 on April 28, 2015, 04:47:12 AM
Attaching a marked map.

Hey!  Thats my exit!

I've seen a cougar while taking that exit.......lower right corner of your pic.

It was probably just a BIG coyote, though
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: TommyH on April 28, 2015, 05:59:25 AM
Was it the black one seen yesterday or a different one?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Watimberghost on April 28, 2015, 06:02:56 AM
Inevitable. I'm not so sure they'll have a hard time west of the mountains... Unfortunately.  There's a lot of thick country for them to roam.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: trophyhunt on April 28, 2015, 06:04:00 AM
Stupid question, these wolves are timber wolves correct?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: AspenBud on April 28, 2015, 06:06:18 AM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

At this point I think it's time the state starts to change things. You have wolves on or near Mt. Hood down in Oregon, you have wolves in North Bend, and while there aren't any photos of the animals or tracks yet, you have reports of them near St. Helens. You don't get there with wolves unless their numbers are booming.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: AspenBud on April 28, 2015, 06:07:38 AM
Stupid question, these wolves are timber wolves correct?

I've always thought that applies to lake states wolves, and those run a little smaller.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 28, 2015, 06:13:50 AM
hope it wasn't a white driver that hit the black wolf,film at eleven

Black wolves matter, h8tr.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 28, 2015, 08:10:48 AM
So sad.  If a wolf were to run out in front of me while driving, I would stop as fast as I could to eliminate the chance of hitting it. We need these creatures in the ecosystem to help control the elk population. 
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: wolfbait on April 28, 2015, 08:28:13 AM
So sad.  If a wolf were to run out in front of me while driving, I would stop as fast as I could to eliminate the chance of hitting it. We need these creatures in the ecosystem to help control the elk population.

You are so right, wolves are wonderful creatures, not only are they cute and cuddly but they balance the ecosystem, make the aspen grow, and beavers flourish.

Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Whitpirate on April 28, 2015, 08:28:26 AM

So sad.  If a wolf were to run out in front of me while driving, I would stop as fast as I could to eliminate the chance of hitting it. We need these creatures in the ecosystem to help control the elk population.

You love to troll don't you? 
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: luvmystang67 on April 28, 2015, 08:37:06 AM
I mean on a real serious note, there is some humor coming out of this, almost certainly...

The REI/North Face type are going to have to start packing SOMETHING when they go hiking.  It'll only take a few wolf howls in the cascades to send them either back to their Subaru or to the gun shop.  I'm kind of looking forward to the "Seattle Reaction". 

I predict two things will happen.  1) There will be less hikers/backpackers in wolf areas, which is better for me.  2) Some portion of these people will turn into "gun people" aka my people.  It is going to be a fun dynamic to watch.

I don't like competing with wolves for natural resources, but I also don't like competing with Subarus, so its really just trading one for the other.  On the west side of the cascades, I think I'd rather have the wolves.   :chuckle:

 :camp:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: 4fletch on April 28, 2015, 08:53:24 AM
Saw the first one three yrs ago and last year seen a female with two pups just off exit 31 so side of 90
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: sooperfly on April 28, 2015, 09:26:16 AM
Confirmed.   DNA tests soon to determine where it came from. 
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Dave Workman on April 28, 2015, 10:29:41 AM
Confirmed.   DNA tests soon to determine where it came from.

Confirmed by who?
Got a link to a news story???
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: RG on April 28, 2015, 11:23:07 AM
There's another animal dead on the shoulder at mile 38.5 right now that looked a lot like a wolf.  Dark brown long legs.  It's pretty torn up, blood all over the road, so hard to say for sure. I hope it's another one.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: stw on April 28, 2015, 11:24:33 AM
Nwsportsmanmag. Got a story on it
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: jackelope on April 28, 2015, 01:04:03 PM
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/editors-blog/suspected-wolf-killed-along-i-90-east-of-north-bend/

It was black too. Crazy.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: cbond3318 on April 28, 2015, 01:08:05 PM
So 2 wolves hit on I-90 near North Bend at 2 different times?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: _TONY_ on April 28, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
I wonder if its the same black wolf that I came face to face with at our cabin in cle elum a couple months back... I sure hope so!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 28, 2015, 01:23:32 PM
See, see! Put them in the greenies' back yards and all of a sudden they're not so hot to protect 'em any more. The guy probably had Wolf Haven sticker on his bumper and some of that stinky fry oil in his tank!

This helps explain the other thread where the trapper from Monroe found that half-eaten goat. Wolf!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: RG on April 28, 2015, 01:45:03 PM
Is it illegal to place bait in the median?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 28, 2015, 01:45:49 PM
Lol.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: hntrspud on April 29, 2015, 11:14:49 AM
I knew this was going to happen. Been hearing howls for some time way up. The problem is that they have worked so hard to try to build up the elk herd in the valley and now, I hope they do something before it ends up like Idaho, Yellowstone etc. Good and bad that they are here now. How much more damage is it going to take before they delist is the problem.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: wolfbait on April 29, 2015, 11:29:51 AM
I knew this was going to happen. Been hearing howls for some time way up. The problem is that they have worked so hard to try to build up the elk herd in the valley and now, I hope they do something before it ends up like Idaho, Yellowstone etc. Good and bad that they are here now. How much more damage is it going to take before they delist is the problem.

Wolves have been in that area since 2010, this isn't news to WDFW.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Curly on April 29, 2015, 11:48:23 AM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: bearpaw on April 29, 2015, 12:22:10 PM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: mfswallace on April 29, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.


That's being to politically correct, it's a FKD plan!!!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: idahohuntr on April 29, 2015, 12:36:31 PM
Is it illegal to place bait in the median?

I "hear" that's what the guys on the road crews do in a certain county in Montana. All the road kill they pick up they put in the median on I-90. I think they've managed to kill 6-7 mangy muts that way. Nobody seems to know why the woofs want to cross right there all the time? I wouldn't bother pumping my breaks for one of those eco-terrorists.
If that is true they should be fired, if not jailed...and not out of any concern for wolves.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Curly on April 29, 2015, 12:38:25 PM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.

True.  The plan sucks.

I'm just going to always point out that western washington does not need wolves per the plan.  The 3rd zone that needs wolves in order for delisting to start, could have them east of the pacific crest trail and south of I-90 in order to be in that zone.  So, if members of the Teanaway pack split off and crossed south of I-90 then that would count toward being in that last zone that "needs" wolves.

So wolves in Cowichee, Little Naches, Nile, Bumping, etc. would all count toward that last zone that is required to have wolves.......all of which are not in western washington.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: mfswallace on April 29, 2015, 01:22:34 PM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.

True.  The plan sucks.

I'm just going to always point out that western washington does not need wolves per the plan.  The 3rd zone that needs wolves in order for delisting to start, could have them east of the pacific crest trail and south of I-90 in order to be in that zone.  So, if members of the Teanaway pack split off and crossed south of I-90 then that would count toward being in that last zone that "needs" wolves.

So wolves in Cowichee, Little Naches, Nile, Bumping, etc. would all count toward that last zone that is required to have wolves.......
all of which are not in western washington.

Which all have wolves already but won't be confirmed until wdfw can't deny it anymore  :bash:

Is it illegal to place bait in the median?

I "hear" that's what the guys on the road crews do in a certain county in Montana. All the road kill they pick up they put in the median on I-90. I think they've managed to kill 6-7 mangy muts that way. Nobody seems to know why the woofs want to cross right there all the time? I wouldn't bother pumping my breaks for one of those eco-terrorists.
If that is true they should be fired, if not jailed...and not out of any concern for wolves.

You make me  :puke: :puke: :puke:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Woodchuck on April 29, 2015, 01:54:09 PM
And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.

True.  The plan sucks.

I'm just going to always point out that western washington does not need wolves per the plan.  The 3rd zone that needs wolves in order for delisting to start, could have them east of the pacific crest trail and south of I-90 in order to be in that zone.  So, if members of the Teanaway pack split off and crossed south of I-90 then that would count toward being in that last zone that "needs" wolves.

So wolves in Cowichee, Little Naches, Nile, Bumping, etc. would all count toward that last zone that is required to have wolves.......
all of which are not in western washington.

Which all have wolves already but won't be confirmed until wdfw can't deny it anymore  :bash:

Is it illegal to place bait in the median?

I "hear" that's what the guys on the road crews do in a certain county in Montana. All the road kill they pick up they put in the median on I-90. I think they've managed to kill 6-7 mangy muts that way. Nobody seems to know why the woofs want to cross right there all the time? I wouldn't bother pumping my breaks for one of those eco-terrorists.
If that is true they should be fired, if not jailed...and not out of any concern for wolves.

You make me  :puke: :puke: :puke:
Then what do you do when a family dies needlessly because they lose control after hitting a 100lb canine at 75mph, and go careening into the Clark Fork River?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 29, 2015, 01:55:09 PM
Blame it on the wolves and kill the rest of them? J/K
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: idahohuntr on April 29, 2015, 02:44:09 PM
Convict the road crew for manslaughter and send them straight to prison...and make an example out of them for their extreme stupidity.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Woodchuck on April 29, 2015, 02:55:19 PM
 :yeah: Today's lucky winner.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Rainier10 on April 30, 2015, 08:41:01 AM
Found this article complete with a statement from Dave Ware confirming the kill.

http://www.dailyrecordnews.com/members/wolf-reportedly-killed-by-car-on-interstate/article_042bfb60-ee95-11e4-93bf-5735b213d8c5.html#.VUGXdbUByoY.mailto

A gray wolf was reportedly struck by a vehicle and killed Monday on Interstate 90 between Snoqualmie Pass and North Bend, another indicator wolves are venturing into remote areas of Western Washington.
 
The exact location on the cross-mountain freeway wasn’t given in a news release and notification by the state Department of Fish and Wildlife, only that it was west of Cascade crest.
 
“It was one of the first gray wolves confirmed killed west of the Cascade crest since the state’s first wolf pack was confirmed in 2008,” said Dave Ware, wolf policy lead for the state wildlife agency, the release.


The wolf was a black-colored female and likely had roamed for a significant distance based on her coloration, the report said.


“This is pretty good evidence that wolves are probably moving into and around Western Washington, although we have not yet documented a pack,” Ware said in the release.


He added that wildlife experts don’t believe the loss of this wolf will undermine continued population growth and range expansion of Washington’s gray wolf packs.


Due to the location of the road kill within the part of the state where wolves are designated as endangered under the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA), the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service also is investigating the incident.


Delisting supported


Ware, in the release, said 4th District Congressman Dan Newhouse last week introduced legislation to take wolves off the federal protection list, or delist them, in Washington, Oregon and Utah. This is the third bill proposed in Congress this year to delist wolves in various parts of the country.


Ware said the state wildlife agency continues to support federal delisting in Washington so that the state’s wildlife biologists can implement the statewide Wolf Conservation and Management Plan in all parts of Washington.


He added the state agency also is confident in the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and its authority to implement the ESA and make science-based management decisions regarding gray wolves.
 



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Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Dave Workman on April 30, 2015, 09:41:52 AM
Read to the bottom where I talk about the wolves.
Weigh in with a comment on wolf management.

NW shooters are stewards while antis are sore losers

Second Amendment activists all over the map could take a lesson from Northwest Firearms forum members who are calling for a big turnout this Saturday in Southwest Washington for the 13th annual “Pick Up the Burn” trash cleanup and maintenance event in the Yacolt Burn State Forest....

...There is already a move afoot to delist wolves in Washington, Oregon and Utah, the newspaper reported. Of all the wolf management plans in the West, the Evergreen State’s is seen as the most egregious by the hunting community, because it seems to require more confirmed wolf packs, yet Washington is the smallest western state.

Weigh in below on wolf management, and don’t be shy. Should wolves be delisted; that is, removed from the Endangered Species Act protection? Should wolves be hunted to manage their populations, and to reduce predation on deer and elk herds?



http://www.examiner.com/article/nw-shooters-are-stewards-while-antis-are-sore-losers

Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Alchase on April 30, 2015, 12:48:04 PM
No need for DNA, this must have been one of the Mystical Lookout Pack. They are the only Pack that can be confirmed in two locations in opposite ends of Okanogan at the same time. And their females travel to Idaho, Oregon, and California .......
without even missing a breeding season!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Gringo31 on April 30, 2015, 01:25:48 PM
NO, THE I-90 ROADKILL WASN’T THE FIRST KNOWN WESTSIDE WOLF
APRIL 30, 2015 ANDY WALGAMOTT   LEAVE A COMMENT
 
The apparent wolf struck by a vehicle on I-90 less than 42 road miles east of downtown Seattle is not the first one confirmed to be west of the crest.

The Associated Press is reporting that it is “the first verification that the controversial animals have crossed the Cascade Range.”

Rather, it represents the furthest westward advance of the species in Washington.

Since at least 2011, a wolf or wolves have been hanging out near the upper end of Ross Lake in the upper Skagit River, which drains into northern Puget Sound.

The most recent WDFW Wildlife Program report includes this image of one by Hozomeen Campground:

(WDFW)
(WDFW)

“Tracks found in the [Ross Lake] drawdown found by park staff and fisheries biologists suggest the presence of more than one individual,” states the April 13 report.

WDFW’s wolf map has included a gray-shaded circle around this country since at least 2012. The coloring denotes a suspected pack or one that dens outside Washington — under USFWS conventions, only packs that shack up within a state are counted towards its recovery goals.

To be sure, WDFW’s wolf observation map includes numerous citizen reports further west than either the Hozomeen or North Bend wolves, and while those are considered unconfirmed, earlier this week the agency’s wolf policy lead Dave Ware said the latter animal represented “pretty good evidence that wolves are probably moving into and around western Washington, although we have not yet documented a pack.”

In past years there have been reports from outside Enumclaw and around Mt. St. Helens, but so far no confirmations.

Technically speaking, there’s a “wild” wolf not far outside WDFW HQ in Olympia — the Ruby Creek female now lodged at Wolf Haven in Tenino after becoming habituated to hanging out around homes and barnyard animals in the Pend Oreille Valley town of Ione.

While the bulk of Washington residents who want wolves live on the west side of the crest, none are actually required to reside here under WDFW’s three-zone recovery plan. Wolf advocates had wanted a fourth in the Willapa Hills and Olympic Peninsula, but the Fish & Wildlife Commission didn’t go for that.

Still, it’s highly likely more wolves will follow this week’s animal’s path west into the rainy side of the state.

IN OTHER NEWS, Washington wolf manager Donny Martorello reports state trappers were able to capture a black-coated yearling female member of the Smackout Pack yesterday.

He says it was given a GPS collar. That should help with range-riding efforts, as last year, telemetry on the pack was lost after a cougar ate the breeding male last spring.

The yearling’s coat collar is the same as that of the I-90 wolf, and DNA samples could link it to that pack or others in the northeastern corners of Washington or Oregon, or further abroad.

A USFWS spokesman says results from the lab are expected in four to six weeks.

Brent Lawrence also confirmed that the wolf was killed by a vehicle, and said that it had likely been a large truck.

He added that a second reported roadkill to the west of where the wolf was found could not be located by USFWS staff.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: mfswallace on April 30, 2015, 01:38:24 PM
He added that a second reported roadkill to the west of where the wolf was found could not be located by USFWS staff.

It magically disappeared  :drool:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Dave Workman on April 30, 2015, 07:21:41 PM
No need for DNA, this must have been one of the Mystical Lookout Pack. They are the only Pack that can be confirmed in two locations in opposite ends of Okanogan at the same time. And their females travel to Idaho, Oregon, and California .......
without even missing a breeding season!

What, they got frequent flyer miles with Alaska Airlines or something?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 30, 2015, 07:36:59 PM
Think it came from the Wolfbait pack and was trying to make its way home to the Methow. 
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: T-Dozzer on April 30, 2015, 08:01:32 PM
You should see the Facebook comments on NorthBend Facebook page.....when will these *censored*s learn........"wolves are not dangerous, more people are hurt by dogs every year"

 :bash:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: cem3434 on May 01, 2015, 01:35:18 AM
You should see the Facebook comments on NorthBend Facebook page.....when will these *censored*s learn........"wolves are not dangerous, more people are hurt by dogs every year"

 :bash:

Ignorance is bliss I guess. Just wait until the wolves take down one of the local elk in the Wood River neighborhood of North Bend....Maybe the liberal hippies will then figure out what we already know.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: jackelope on May 01, 2015, 06:19:13 AM
Well, there probably are a lot more people injured by domestic dogs than wolves every year.
:dunno:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 01, 2015, 06:27:20 AM
Thats why it is such a shame when a poor little defenseless wolf gets hit buy a car!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 01, 2015, 06:37:36 AM
Well, there probably are a lot more people injured by domestic dogs than wolves every year.
:dunno:

Do you think that would still be the case if there were as many wolves as dogs?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: AspenBud on May 01, 2015, 07:06:55 AM
Well, there probably are a lot more people injured by domestic dogs than wolves every year.
:dunno:

Do you think that would still be the case if there were as many wolves as dogs?

Do you think there will ever be 78 million wolves in the US?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: kodiak 907 on May 01, 2015, 07:10:34 AM
Well, there probably are a lot more people injured by domestic dogs than wolves every year.
:dunno:

Do you think that would still be the case if there were as many wolves as dogs?

 :yeah:
Exactly right. Example: more people are bitten by black labs than pit bulls in the u.s. Does this make the lab more dangerous than a pit... No. It only shows more people own labs and the stats will confuse the people that do not do the proper research..
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 01, 2015, 07:19:33 AM
Well, there probably are a lot more people injured by domestic dogs than wolves every year.
:dunno:

Do you think that would still be the case if there were as many wolves as dogs?

Do you think there will ever be 78 million wolves in the US?

My response was to a straw man statement. Of course more people are injured by dogs. More are injured by ferrets, too. That has absolutely nothing to do with the dangers that an increasing population of wolves represents.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Dave Workman on May 01, 2015, 10:58:27 AM
You should see the Facebook comments on NorthBend Facebook page.....when will these *censored*s learn........"wolves are not dangerous, more people are hurt by dogs every year"

 :bash:
There's a North Bend Facebook page?

There goes the neighborhood


Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: jackelope on May 01, 2015, 01:42:45 PM
Well, there probably are a lot more people injured by domestic dogs than wolves every year.
:dunno:

Do you think that would still be the case if there were as many wolves as dogs?
Its been a very long week. I should've known better than trying to make a joke in the wolf forum without 1st specifying it as a joke.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 01, 2015, 01:48:48 PM
Well, there probably are a lot more people injured by domestic dogs than wolves every year.
:dunno:

Do you think that would still be the case if there were as many wolves as dogs?
Its been a very long week. I should've known better than trying to make a joke in the wolf forum without 1st specifying it as a joke.
It has been a long week. Neither Aspen or i knew it was a joke, clearly.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: cbond3318 on May 01, 2015, 02:02:23 PM
Well, there probably are a lot more people injured by domestic dogs than wolves every year.
:dunno:

Do you think that would still be the case if there were as many wolves as dogs?
Its been a very long week. I should've known better than trying to make a joke in the wolf forum without 1st specifying it as a joke.



Yeah, but where is the fun in that?? :tung:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: 300ack on May 02, 2015, 11:00:56 AM
Simple solution to this problem. Just bring up the poor deceased sea lions from the Columbia River traps and place in I-90 median at North Bend.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: turbo on May 05, 2015, 09:23:57 AM
Best thing that could happen is to have a wolf take down a pet on the MT SI trail.. The greeinies would be more upset by a dog getting killed over a human so it has to be a pet.

Maybe then they will understand. The North Bend Elk heard is a sitting duck!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Rainier10 on May 05, 2015, 11:23:24 AM
Just heard of a guy seeing a lone black wolf at milepost 36 this morning at about 7am.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 05, 2015, 11:32:31 AM
Just heard of a guy seeing a lone black wolf at milepost 36 this morning at about 7am.

Maybe the wolves have heard how we think about them and they're starting to commit suicide!  :tup: But always remember, Black Wolves Matter!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: kodiak 907 on May 05, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
I see what you did there :tup:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: T-Dozzer on May 05, 2015, 08:10:25 PM
Just heard of a guy seeing a lone black wolf at milepost 36 this morning at about 7am.

Maybe the wolves have heard how we think about them and they're starting to commit suicide!  :tup: But always remember, Black Wolves Matter!

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: danderson on June 07, 2015, 04:12:04 PM
Anyone know if the DNA test results have come back on this wolf, my guess the Teanaway
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Expedition Scout on June 08, 2015, 06:57:47 AM
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/usda-lets-coyote-remain-in-park/

I remember the uproar this critter caused a few years back. Can't wait to see the reaction when it's bigger and brings 6 of it's friends along!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: dasbear on August 29, 2015, 08:44:40 PM
I just happened on to this thread and thought I would add that I heard of a wolf  spotted crossing hwy 9 up in skagit county sometime this summer. The people didn't realize what they were looking at till later on they thought it was a really big dog but it had a odd looking collar. Not sure of the time line though.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Little Dave on August 29, 2015, 09:54:28 PM
Makes sense that they would show up there as well.
I haven't seen any, nor heard word of any in the North Bend area since calving season.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Shank on August 29, 2015, 11:00:48 PM
I'll add what I just heard the other day, from a coworker. Apparently there was a wolf sighting in the stossel creek area.
Not sure what to make of that. Could of been someone saw a healthy coyote, and don't know the difference between the two

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Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Special T on August 30, 2015, 09:04:52 AM
I just happened on to this thread and thought I would add that I heard of a wolf  spotted crossing hwy 9 up in skagit county sometime this summer. The people didn't realize what they were looking at till later on they thought it was a really big dog but it had a odd looking collar. Not sure of the time line though.
I saw 4 wolves hunting the elk just nort of sedro 10 years ago. My mother and wife saw one on the lake cavanaugh rd last year.
Makes sense that they would show up there as well.
I haven't seen any, nor heard word of any in the North Bend area since calving season.


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Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: cwebsterdeerhunter on September 10, 2015, 01:19:59 AM
Wolves in north bend could benefit the hunting. The elk would take cover in the hills where they are less vulnerable and we can hunt them 😀 rather than in the fields more exposed to predators.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: jumpin on November 01, 2015, 09:23:32 AM
Dont ya know,  Wolves are the answer to the hoof rot problem   :yike:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 01, 2015, 09:38:49 AM
Wolves in north bend could benefit the hunting. The elk would take cover in the hills where they are less vulnerable and we can hunt them 😀 rather than in the fields more exposed to predators.

That's not the trend that the elk and deer have been following. They've been coming into the towns to get away from the wolves up in the hills.
Title: North Bend wolf
Post by: jackelope on November 01, 2015, 11:57:20 AM
https://vimeo.com/144292174 (https://vimeo.com/144292174)

Turn the volume up!!!

That's from outer Duvall a few weeks ago. Also got word of a black and a gray wolf  seen in a pasture in the same general area a couple days ago.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: BsB on November 01, 2015, 11:59:27 AM
Until I turned the volume up I was gonna say, that's a pretty black wolf!
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: jackelope on November 01, 2015, 12:07:00 PM

Until I turned the volume up I was gonna say, that's a pretty black wolf!

Yeah sorry. I edited with a comment to turn up the volume.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: AspenBud on November 02, 2015, 08:53:44 AM
Wolves in north bend could benefit the hunting. The elk would take cover in the hills where they are less vulnerable and we can hunt them 😀 rather than in the fields more exposed to predators.

That's not the trend that the elk and deer have been following. They've been coming into the towns to get away from the wolves up in the hills.

Can't for people to blame wolves for this.   :bash:

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Longview-disgruntled-and-enamored-as-elk-herd-1284495.php (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Longview-disgruntled-and-enamored-as-elk-herd-1284495.php)
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 02, 2015, 09:32:40 AM
Possible coyote sighting, Kirkland.

Quote
While Steve Wilkes normally feels safe in his neighborhood, he’s still shaken after witnessing what looked like a coyote jump his fence and take off with his 9-month old puppy named Rogue.

“I saw all black across the top, hit the top of the fence which is about 5 feet there and down the other side,” said Wilkes. “I came through here pretty fast yelling after the dog and came through the neighbor’s yard here, and I was following the sounds of our dog.”

Still in shock about what happened to Rogue, Wilkes sent out an e-mail to warn the neighborhood.

“It is very concerning to know there could be something very predatory out here that we all have to be care of,” said Wilkes.

Neighbor Wendy Macomber also saw the creature.

“I saw it; the thing stopped, it turned and it had bright yellow eyes, definitely dark at the top and that much taller with ears straight up,” said Macomber.

http://q13fox.com/2015/11/01/puppy-missing-after-possible-coyote-sighting-in-kirkland/

On the TV news report, the owner referred to the predator as "husky."   I thought it possible that it could be a wolf, given the proximity to other recent sightings in North Bend (and on I-90 was it?).

But don't expect such interactions to increase support for delisting of wolves or increasing support for predator hunting.  The option most likely to gain favor is to relocate them to your backyard. 

http://www.opb.org/news/article/ashland-residents-want-city-to-buck-up-on-deer-issue/
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Bean Counter on November 04, 2015, 03:03:38 PM
Good medicine for the yuppie voter  :tup:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: huntingbaldguy on November 05, 2015, 02:06:13 AM
If i hit a wolf with my truck i would frame the entire truck and hang it somewhere.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: JDHasty on November 06, 2015, 12:02:51 PM
If i hit a wolf with my truck i would frame the entire truck and hang it somewhere.

That's what I'm talkin' about
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: skagitsteel on November 20, 2015, 12:38:13 PM
I just happened on to this thread and thought I would add that I heard of a wolf  spotted crossing hwy 9 up in skagit county sometime this summer. The people didn't realize what they were looking at till later on they thought it was a really big dog but it had a odd looking collar. Not sure of the time line though.
I saw 4 wolves hunting the elk just nort of sedro 10 years ago. My mother and wife saw one on the lake cavanaugh rd last year.




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Not good....... I got two wolves on my cameras this year in the local area here too
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: X-Force on November 20, 2015, 12:44:51 PM


Not good....... I got two wolves on my cameras this year in the local area here too

Pics! Lets see them :tup:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: skagitsteel on November 23, 2015, 12:04:20 PM


Not good....... I got two wolves on my cameras this year in the local area here too

Pics! Lets see them :tup:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 23, 2015, 12:20:22 PM
Wolves in north bend could benefit the hunting. The elk would take cover in the hills where they are less vulnerable and we can hunt them 😀 rather than in the fields more exposed to predators.

That's not the trend that the elk and deer have been following. They've been coming into the towns to get away from the wolves up in the hills.

Can't for people to blame wolves for this.   :bash:

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Longview-disgruntled-and-enamored-as-elk-herd-1284495.php (http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Longview-disgruntled-and-enamored-as-elk-herd-1284495.php)

They won't, the post above yours with link to Ashland, Or guy says not enough predators I s why deer are in town.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: X-Force on November 23, 2015, 01:38:48 PM


Not good....... I got two wolves on my cameras this year in the local area here too

Pics! Lets see them :tup:

Those are pretty good shots. To bad for your area. Have you seen more of a decrease in deer or elk?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: skagitsteel on November 23, 2015, 01:54:39 PM


Not good....... I got two wolves on my cameras this year in the local area here too

Pics! Lets see them :tup:

Those are pretty good shots. To bad for your area. Have you seen more of a decrease in deer or elk?

unfortunately both are in deer spots, one area about half the does and fawns disappeared over the winter, the bucks seemed to be pretty close to normal, I blamed it on a weird weather year until I had a wolf on cam :bash:  Only one pic in each area so hopefully no pack yet
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: CementFinisher on November 27, 2015, 12:30:58 AM
IM no biologist but that top pic looks like an awfully young wolf. maybe a breeding pair in the area. have you sent the pics to wdfw?
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: nwwanderer on November 27, 2015, 07:18:40 AM
Summer coat on the first pic.  Big ole' feet, do not think it is this years pup.
Title: Re: North Bend wolf
Post by: skagitsteel on November 29, 2015, 10:18:32 AM
Young wolf for sure in first pic.  That camera was up for about 4 months and he only went by it once, so we will see.  The more recent pic I left two cams up over the winter to see what transpires
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