North Bend wolf

[hntrspud]

I knew this was going to happen. Been hearing howls for some time way up. The problem is that they have worked so hard to try to build up the elk herd in the valley and now, I hope they do something before it ends up like Idaho, Yellowstone etc. Good and bad that they are here now. How much more damage is it going to take before they delist is the problem.

[wolfbait]

I knew this was going to happen. Been hearing howls for some time way up. The problem is that they have worked so hard to try to build up the elk herd in the valley and now, I hope they do something before it ends up like Idaho, Yellowstone etc. Good and bad that they are here now. How much more damage is it going to take before they delist is the problem.

Wolves have been in that area since 2010, this isn't news to WDFW.

[Curly]

And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

[bearpaw]

And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.

[mfswallace]

And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.

That's being to politically correct, it's a FKD plan!!!

[idahohuntr]

Is it illegal to place bait in the median?

I "hear" that's what the guys on the road crews do in a certain county in Montana. All the road kill they pick up they put in the median on I-90. I think they've managed to kill 6-7 mangy muts that way. Nobody seems to know why the woofs want to cross right there all the time? I wouldn't bother pumping my breaks for one of those eco-terrorists.

If that is true they should be fired, if not jailed...and not out of any concern for wolves.

[Curly]

And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.

True.  The plan sucks.

I'm just going to always point out that western washington does not need wolves per the plan.  The 3rd zone that needs wolves in order for delisting to start, could have them east of the pacific crest trail and south of I-90 in order to be in that zone.  So, if members of the Teanaway pack split off and crossed south of I-90 then that would count toward being in that last zone that "needs" wolves.

So wolves in Cowichee, Little Naches, Nile, Bumping, etc. would all count toward that last zone that is required to have wolves.......all of which are not in western washington.

[mfswallace]

And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.

True.  The plan sucks.

I'm just going to always point out that western washington does not need wolves per the plan.  The 3rd zone that needs wolves in order for delisting to start, could have them east of the pacific crest trail and south of I-90 in order to be in that zone.  So, if members of the Teanaway pack split off and crossed south of I-90 then that would count toward being in that last zone that "needs" wolves.

So wolves in Cowichee, Little Naches, Nile, Bumping, etc. would all count toward that last zone that is required to have wolves.......all of which are not in western washington.

Which all have wolves already but won't be confirmed until wdfw can't deny it anymore 

Is it illegal to place bait in the median?

I "hear" that's what the guys on the road crews do in a certain county in Montana. All the road kill they pick up they put in the median on I-90. I think they've managed to kill 6-7 mangy muts that way. Nobody seems to know why the woofs want to cross right there all the time? I wouldn't bother pumping my breaks for one of those eco-terrorists.

If that is true they should be fired, if not jailed...and not out of any concern for wolves.

You make me 

[Woodchuck]

And yet we have to have them on the westside before we can delist them in the NE, right?

Nope.  They don't have to be in Western Washington to be delisted. 

Here is a link to the wolf plan map by wdfw:  http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/packs/

Two things I hate most about this wolf plan:

1. 15 packs required that must be spread through all 3 wolf zones. That's a higher wolf concentration than any other state plan. The sad thing is that wolves could fit in Washington if unmanaged numbers don't overload any one area.

2. This plan pits the residents of WA against each other. I understand residents in W WA not wanting wolves, but on the other hand the future of NE WA is dependent on wolves spreading across the state. We've all seen the drama this creates, it's simply not a good plan.

True.  The plan sucks.

I'm just going to always point out that western washington does not need wolves per the plan.  The 3rd zone that needs wolves in order for delisting to start, could have them east of the pacific crest trail and south of I-90 in order to be in that zone.  So, if members of the Teanaway pack split off and crossed south of I-90 then that would count toward being in that last zone that "needs" wolves.

So wolves in Cowichee, Little Naches, Nile, Bumping, etc. would all count toward that last zone that is required to have wolves.......all of which are not in western washington.

Which all have wolves already but won't be confirmed until wdfw can't deny it anymore 

Is it illegal to place bait in the median?

I "hear" that's what the guys on the road crews do in a certain county in Montana. All the road kill they pick up they put in the median on I-90. I think they've managed to kill 6-7 mangy muts that way. Nobody seems to know why the woofs want to cross right there all the time? I wouldn't bother pumping my breaks for one of those eco-terrorists.

If that is true they should be fired, if not jailed...and not out of any concern for wolves.

You make me 

Then what do you do when a family dies needlessly because they lose control after hitting a 100lb canine at 75mph, and go careening into the Clark Fork River?

[pianoman9701]

Blame it on the wolves and kill the rest of them? J/K

[idahohuntr]

Convict the road crew for manslaughter and send them straight to prison...and make an example out of them for their extreme stupidity.

[Woodchuck]

  Today's lucky winner.

[Rainier10]

Found this article complete with a statement from Dave Ware confirming the kill.

http://www.dailyrecordnews.com/members/wolf-reportedly-killed-by-car-on-interstate/article_042bfb60-ee95-11e4-93bf-5735b213d8c5.html#.VUGXdbUByoY.mailto

A gray wolf was reportedly struck by a vehicle and killed Monday on Interstate 90 between Snoqualmie Pass and North Bend, another indicator wolves are venturing into remote areas of Western Washington.
 
The exact location on the cross-mountain freeway wasn’t given in a news release and notification by the state Department of Fish and Wildlife, only that it was west of Cascade crest.
 
“It was one of the first gray wolves confirmed killed west of the Cascade crest since the state’s first wolf pack was confirmed in 2008,” said Dave Ware, wolf policy lead for the state wildlife agency, the release.


The wolf was a black-colored female and likely had roamed for a significant distance based on her coloration, the report said.


“This is pretty good evidence that wolves are probably moving into and around Western Washington, although we have not yet documented a pack,” Ware said in the release.


He added that wildlife experts don’t believe the loss of this wolf will undermine continued population growth and range expansion of Washington’s gray wolf packs.


Due to the location of the road kill within the part of the state where wolves are designated as endangered under the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA), the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service also is investigating the incident.


Delisting supported


Ware, in the release, said 4th District Congressman Dan Newhouse last week introduced legislation to take wolves off the federal protection list, or delist them, in Washington, Oregon and Utah. This is the third bill proposed in Congress this year to delist wolves in various parts of the country.


Ware said the state wildlife agency continues to support federal delisting in Washington so that the state’s wildlife biologists can implement the statewide Wolf Conservation and Management Plan in all parts of Washington.


He added the state agency also is confident in the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and its authority to implement the ESA and make science-based management decisions regarding gray wolves.
 



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[Dave Workman]

Read to the bottom where I talk about the wolves.
Weigh in with a comment on wolf management.

NW shooters are stewards while antis are sore losers

Second Amendment activists all over the map could take a lesson from Northwest Firearms forum members who are calling for a big turnout this Saturday in Southwest Washington for the 13th annual “Pick Up the Burn” trash cleanup and maintenance event in the Yacolt Burn State Forest....

...There is already a move afoot to delist wolves in Washington, Oregon and Utah, the newspaper reported. Of all the wolf management plans in the West, the Evergreen State’s is seen as the most egregious by the hunting community, because it seems to require more confirmed wolf packs, yet Washington is the smallest western state.

Weigh in below on wolf management, and don’t be shy. Should wolves be delisted; that is, removed from the Endangered Species Act protection? Should wolves be hunted to manage their populations, and to reduce predation on deer and elk herds?


http://www.examiner.com/article/nw-shooters-are-stewards-while-antis-are-sore-losers

[Alchase]

No need for DNA, this must have been one of the Mystical Lookout Pack. They are the only Pack that can be confirmed in two locations in opposite ends of Okanogan at the same time. And their females travel to Idaho, Oregon, and California .......
without even missing a breeding season!