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Title: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: nitro on May 11, 2015, 08:02:33 PM
I just go my may/june issue and there is a hunt in there from washington state that got my attention, great write up on a late bow hunt by one of the pictures in it got my attention there is a gopro on his bow?????? I thought washington state had no electrical devises attached to your bow.  I hate this rule i bought one just so i could start filming my hunts while bow hunting. The hunter in the write up even works as a fish biologist in washington state! I find it funny that eastmans would put a picture in a write up that  could get a hunter in trouble.  Like to hear what other bow hunters have to say about this.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: jpharcher on May 11, 2015, 08:05:00 PM
Yes, no electronics, other than lighted nocks may be attached to bow or arrow- one of the DUMBEST rules on the archery books in WA
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 11, 2015, 09:37:04 PM
Looks to me like the gopro is attached to the quiver and not the bow  :chuckle:
Stud buck! I read that story... goes to show you dont have to backpack 38 miles for giant animals.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: hughjorgan on May 11, 2015, 09:47:21 PM
I just go my may/june issue and there is a hunt in there from washington state that got my attention, great write up on a late bow hunt by one of the pictures in it got my attention there is a gopro on his bow?????? I thought washington state had no electrical devises attached to your bow.  I hate this rule i bought one just so i could start filming my hunts while bow hunting. The hunter in the write up even works as a fish biologist in washington state! I find it funny that eastmans would put a picture in a write up that  could get a hunter in trouble.  Like to hear what other bow hunters have to say about this.

How about posting a picture  :dunno:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 11, 2015, 09:48:46 PM
You guys made me go look at my copy.  Go pro clear as day.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: bowhunterforever on May 11, 2015, 10:28:27 PM
I just go my may/june issue and there is a hunt in there from washington state that got my attention, great write up on a late bow hunt by one of the pictures in it got my attention there is a gopro on his bow?????? I thought washington state had no electrical devises attached to your bow.  I hate this rule i bought one just so i could start filming my hunts while bow hunting. The hunter in the write up even works as a fish biologist in washington state! I find it funny that eastmans would put a picture in a write up that  could get a hunter in trouble.  Like to hear what other bow hunters have to say about this.

How about posting a picture  :dunno:
:yeah:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: cem3434 on May 11, 2015, 10:34:25 PM
Ok, so how many of you have contacted WDFW to try and get your 10 points?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 12, 2015, 05:44:09 AM
Ok, so how many of you have contacted WDFW to try and get your 10 points?  :chuckle:
not sure you can get points in this case..
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: C-Money on May 12, 2015, 06:11:07 AM
I know rules are rules. But man, I would not make a big deal over a Go Pro. Its not like he had a flashlight mounted on the bow...
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: longwalker on May 12, 2015, 06:32:54 AM
If he violated the rules he should be sited accordingly. I do not agree with all the speed limits I see but I'm sure eligible for a ticket when I go over them. Theres a value in enforcing laws that are in place wether you agree with them or not.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: kentrek on May 12, 2015, 06:49:35 AM
Go pro attached to his Bow ? What a low life......definitely hope they make an example out of him

 :stup:


Just kidding....just as a lot of you would turn your head after seeing a wolf shot, id congratulate him on a tremendous buck an move on and would never remotely think of making a big deal over nothing
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: Slamadoo on May 12, 2015, 06:56:00 AM
You can't fix stupid.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: bhawley76 on May 12, 2015, 07:03:18 AM
 :yeah:
I know rules are rules. But man, I would not make a big deal over a Go Pro. Its not like he had a flashlight mounted on the bow...
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: baker5150 on May 12, 2015, 07:35:57 AM
I know rules are rules. But man, I would not make a big deal over a Go Pro. Its not like he had a flashlight mounted on the bow...

I think I would mention it to him if I came across him in the field, could save him a ticket.
He may not be aware of the rule. 
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: 4fletch on May 12, 2015, 12:14:49 PM
My thoughts are the go pro does nothing as far as giving him a advantage to harvest a animal. No big deal to me
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: hughjorgan on May 12, 2015, 12:30:08 PM
My thoughts are the go pro does nothing as far as giving him a advantage to harvest a animal. No big deal to me

Who cares about the go pro, if anything it would make it harder to balance the bow.

I still want to see a picture of the deer....
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: buglebrush on May 12, 2015, 12:37:25 PM
If he violated the rules he should be sited accordingly. I do not agree with all the speed limits I see but I'm sure eligible for a ticket when I go over them. Theres a value in enforcing laws that are in place wether you agree with them or not.

The rules are not God.  I would never wish for another hunter to be ticketed over a technicality.  Now poaching?  Sure!  This?  Nope.  :twocents:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: rtspring on May 12, 2015, 01:01:52 PM
I really think there are bigger problems in this world than this.. 

Cant a guy post a pic on huntwa anymore without the critique of so many do gooders!!!   Some people need to get a life, quit worrying about others. 

Lots of pics are not shared on here anymore because of this nonsense.. 

He broke the law, hell I broke three or four before 8 am this morning!  Call the cops!!!
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: coachcw on May 12, 2015, 01:06:42 PM
I really think there are bigger problems in this world than this.. 

Cant a guy post a pic on huntwa anymore without the critique of so many do gooders!!!   Some people need to get a life, quit worrying about others. 

Lots of pics are not shared on here anymore because of this nonsense.. 

He broke the law, hell I broke three or four before 8 am this morning!  Call the cops!!!
Any game violations ? I need ten points  :chuckle:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on May 12, 2015, 01:07:34 PM
Nice buck.  :tup:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: D-Rock425 on May 12, 2015, 01:39:00 PM
I really think there are bigger problems in this world than this.. 

Cant a guy post a pic on huntwa anymore without the critique of so many do gooders!!!   Some people need to get a life, quit worrying about others. 

Lots of pics are not shared on here anymore because of this nonsense.. 

He broke the law, hell I broke three or four before 8 am this morning!  Call the cops!!!
what did you go hunting for this morning?
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: longwalker on May 12, 2015, 01:41:14 PM
If he violated the rules he should be sited accordingly. I do not agree with all the speed limits I see but I'm sure eligible for a ticket when I go over them. Theres a value in enforcing laws that are in place wether you agree with them or not.

The rules are not God.  I would never wish for another hunter to be ticketed over a technicality.  Now poaching?  Sure!  This?  Nope.  :twocents:

Said nothing about "wishing" it or that I even give a rats it's on his bow. But if there is a blatant violation of any law put in print and being pretty irrefutable evidence  of the violation I would hope our game department would hold them to the same standard as if they were to bump I to him on the field with the same condition. Why should he be exempt?
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: jackelope on May 12, 2015, 01:48:24 PM


I agree with Longwalker. The law is annoying and pointless....but it's kind of not the smartest thing in the world to put pictures of a game violation into a magazine.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: bearpaw on May 12, 2015, 02:11:23 PM
It seems obvious that the guy doesn't know he can't legally mount a go pro on his bow or he would not have submitted the photo to a national magazine. The same seems true for the magazine, they can't possibly know all the laws for every state, why would they even consider a gopro on a bow not being legal? I see it as a technicality, if a warden wants to issue the guy a warning that would seem appropriate, a ticket would seem extreme to me. Just my  :twocents:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: hughjorgan on May 12, 2015, 04:21:27 PM
Nice buck.  :tup:

Thanks for posting  :tup:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: Miles on May 12, 2015, 04:57:55 PM

He broke the law, hell I broke three or four before 8 am this morning!  Call the cops!!!

Put a picture of it on Huntwa and the cops will come knocking.  They'll either take you to jail or shoot you. :chuckle:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: SGTDuffman on May 12, 2015, 04:58:24 PM
Are you sure it was in Washington? I don't have the issue, but in that picture you posted the first word in the 4th sentence on the right page says Idaho, and in a sentence that looks to be something along the lines of "hiking in some of Idahos roughest country."
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: Buzz2401 on May 12, 2015, 05:06:37 PM
Are you sure it was in Washington? I don't have the issue, but in that picture you posted the first word in the 4th sentence on the right page says Idaho, and in a sentence that looks to be something along the lines of "hiking in some of Idahos roughest country."
Thats just part of the story.  He shot that buck in Washington after hunting in Idaho.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: jackelope on May 12, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Are you sure it was in Washington? I don't have the issue, but in that picture you posted the first word in the 4th sentence on the right page says Idaho, and in a sentence that looks to be something along the lines of "hiking in some of Idahos roughest country."

That is indeed a Washington buck.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: SGTDuffman on May 12, 2015, 05:21:02 PM
Well, sucks for that guy. If they come after guys on here for posting pics, I don't know why they wouldn't go after guys that post them in magazines. It's a stupid law, but it's still the law. If the guy is a biologist for the state, he's got no excuse, he should know better.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: hughjorgan on May 12, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
Well, sucks for that guy. If they come after guys on here for posting pics, I don't know why they wouldn't go after guys that post them in magazines. It's a stupid law, but it's still the law. If the guy is a biologist for the state, he's got no excuse, he should know better.

He is not a biologist for the state and just moved backed to WA.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: SGTDuffman on May 12, 2015, 05:26:43 PM
Didn't the OP say he was a fish biologist for the state.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: jackelope on May 12, 2015, 05:29:55 PM
Didn't the OP say he was a fish biologist for the state.

He is not.
That is what he said, but that's not an accurate statement.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: Miles on May 12, 2015, 05:34:05 PM
Who cares?  It's a go pro camera...
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on May 12, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
Place this issue in your safe . Just incase I need it when I put one on my bow  :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: I think a better place would to be on your hat ! We support some of the dumbest laws  :yeah:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: Karl Blanchard on May 12, 2015, 06:11:29 PM
Is it bad that my first thought was, "the ticket would be worth it if I got video of me arrowing a giant buck like that!!!!!"? :chuckle:

On a more serious note..................................does anyone still have a pic of the guy with the flashlight on his stabilizer?  That thing is solid gold and I haven't seen it in a while :peep: :chuckle:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: rtspring on May 12, 2015, 06:13:24 PM
Is it bad that my first thought was, "the ticket would be worth it if I got video of me arrowing a giant buck like that!!!!!"? :chuckle:

On a more serious note..................................does anyone still have a pic of the guy with the flashlight on his stabilizer?  That thing is solid gold and I haven't seen it in a while :peep: :chuckle:

What that ain't legal, how the heck can you expect to see after dark?? :chuckle:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: mfswallace on May 12, 2015, 06:41:01 PM
Is it bad that my first thought was, "the ticket would be worth it if I got video of me arrowing a giant buck like that!!!!!"? :chuckle:

On a more serious note..................................does anyone still have a pic of the guy with the flashlight on his stabilizer?  That thing is solid gold and I haven't seen it in a while :peep: :chuckle:

What that ain't legal, how the heck can you expect to see after dark?? :chuckle:

I can't understand how some are for only following the rules they deem ok  :yike:

can you not see a scenario where the footage of the shot is used to see if it was a hit or not and then how that can change the next step in recovery or hunt... :dunno:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: Slamadoo on May 12, 2015, 08:20:47 PM
Complaining about or writing about ticketing this guy is ridiculous. A GoPro on a bow is zero advantage. In fact, it's probably a disadvantage. Some of you guys need to get a life. GoPros probably were not even invented when this law was written. This hunt in no way violated the spirit of the law.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: Alan K on May 12, 2015, 08:48:08 PM
He put it on there after the kill, was never hunting with it attached.  :dunno:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: kentrek on May 12, 2015, 08:49:06 PM
Is it bad that my first thought was, "the ticket would be worth it if I got video of me arrowing a giant buck like that!!!!!"? :chuckle:

On a more serious note..................................does anyone still have a pic of the guy with the flashlight on his stabilizer?  That thing is solid gold and I haven't seen it in a while :peep: :chuckle:

What that ain't legal, how the heck can you expect to see after dark?? :chuckle:

I can't understand how some are for only following the rules they deem ok  :yike:

can you not see a scenario where the footage of the shot is used to see if it was a hit or not and then how that can change the next step in recovery or hunt... :dunno:

I can't tell if your serous or not...
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: pd on May 12, 2015, 09:01:14 PM
I think a whole bunch of folks need to take a deep breath.

From memory, I believe the the rule is "no electronic devices of any kind on the bow....." (or something like that).  I agree with most of the posters: A GoPro, or any other camera device, is no hunting advantage.  Stupid rules should be repealed.  But isn't this a teaching moment?  Why not work to modify the silly rules?

We now have a new director at WDFW.  Times are a'changing, I tell you.  Send your requests to the department or to the commission, and get the rules changed.

In the meantime, breathe deeply.  Only 3 1/2 months to wait.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: coachcw on May 12, 2015, 09:04:53 PM
I guess I should be getting my lid cam working
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: nitro on May 13, 2015, 06:52:13 PM
After posting this i thought to my self would i do this? if i could get away with it then yes. This is why i bought a gopro in the first place so i could record my hunts and fishing trips. Then i read the law and found out i couldn't  put it on my bow. I personal would not turn this guy in for points it is one of the dumbest rule we have any more with bow hunting. We do need to change some rules in this state and all of us hunters need to voice it to wdfw to get them changed.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: hughjorgan on May 13, 2015, 08:10:57 PM
After posting this i thought to my self would i do this? if i could get away with it then yes. This is why i bought a gopro in the first place so i could record my hunts and fishing trips. Then i read the law and found out i couldn't  put it on my bow. I personal would not turn this guy in for points it is one of the dumbest rule we have any more with bow hunting. We do need to change some rules in this state and all of us hunters need to voice it to wdfw to get them changed.

It is a dumb rule, hopefully the law is changed to allow them in the future. It is to bad his go pro messed up and he didn't get video of his kill. 
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: SGTDuffman on May 14, 2015, 05:07:24 AM
Complaining about or writing about ticketing this guy is ridiculous. A GoPro on a bow is zero advantage. In fact, it's probably a disadvantage. Some of you guys need to get a life. GoPros probably were not even invented when this law was written. This hunt in no way violated the spirit of the law.

It's irrelevant how stupid the law is, it's still the law. Lighted nocks had zero advantage in taking game (may help determine shot placement or tracking, no different than a camera), but you couldn't use them until last year, because of the very same law. The rule was amended then to allow the use of a lighted nock, but not amended for the mounting of cameras, so it remains illegal.

As far as I'm concerned the rules should read, "the use of lights and lighted sights shall be illegal", because I fail to see how any other electronic device allows or encourages some sort of unethical behavior. As the law is written now, you also could NOT have something like a digital rangefinder attached to your bow, which would in fact make bow hunting more ethical. You can try arguing the spirit of the law with the gamie, but if he gives you a ticket, you'll know why.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: follow maggie on May 15, 2015, 10:56:58 PM
Since it doesn't provide any advantage, if I were into video recording hunts I would put the go pro on my bow, law or not. It's not the point of the law. It's just that the *censored*s in Olympia can't keep up with the world.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: SGTDuffman on May 16, 2015, 10:26:29 AM
Can't argue they represent the most out of touch populace in the state. There are still other solutions though. They make a plethora of mounts so you can hang cameras off everything, your arm, your head, in glasses, there's even stuff now that you put a tracker on you and the camera follows you ( http://shop.soloshot.com/ ).
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: follow maggie on May 17, 2015, 11:18:19 AM
That solo shot is pretty cool
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: coldsteel3d on May 20, 2015, 09:51:28 AM
He didn't hunt with the gopro on his bow, he just put it on the bow afterwards to reenact the shot while he was taking pictures.  :tup:
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: issaquarcher on May 29, 2015, 07:45:15 PM
For those of you wondering or thinking how cool it would be to GoPro your hunt here's the reality of it. I have several GoPro's and they are great for filming some things worthless for others. Nice panoramic shots, yup. A selfie doing stupid things, yup. Video's of your buddies doing stupid things even better. Filming shooting at deer or elk, worthless. They are designed primarily for selfies. I once had one on my bow and filmed shooting a cow one late season at 25 yards. Played it back and could hardy see any elk at all. I had a deer walk up to me at 6 paces and on playback it looks 15 yards away. If you want to film a hunt, have your buddy call and film and if you're lucky enough to get your kill on film, priceless. You'll never stop watching it.
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: WRKG4GD on May 29, 2015, 09:45:21 PM
I think the "framers" of our state's hunting regs were thinking about electronic devices which aide someone in the unfair or illegal harvesting of an animal.    I certainly could be wrong (and my wife would tell you I often am), but I don't think anyone who *could* prosecute this hunter would do so in his/her right mind.   "Common sense" and "intent of the law" need to be considered at some point, and I just don't think the folks who wrote the law even had GoPro's on their radar.

I agree with PD -- use this as an opportunity to make things better.   There's things in life worth getting spun up about.  This ain't even close to one of them.

 
Title: Re: eastmans's bowhunting jounal washington hunt
Post by: TheHunt on June 03, 2015, 06:58:11 AM
I agree that GoPro is terrible for videoing a hunt.  I would suggest a better quality device. 

What a stupid law!!! 
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