Post by: wolfbait on May 12, 2015, 07:22:55 AM
http://tomremington.com/2015/05/11/somebody-needs-to-buy-a-clue-nc-red-wolf-government-corruption/
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 12, 2015, 07:38:54 AM
Post by: wolfbait on May 12, 2015, 08:15:18 PM
I don't understand what the caller was getting at with the reporting. :dunno: Are you implying that because the wolf didn't show up as an illegal take, there's some kind of coverup? How does the reward play into this? How does this relate to our own wolf situation? Thanks.
I was a little confused also, re-reading what Tom wrote sort of clears it up.
I'm didn't imply anything, I posted a wolf story, and I didn't realize all wolf stories had to be about WA's wolves, have things changed on H-W?
Post by: stevemiller on May 12, 2015, 08:42:03 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 12, 2015, 09:07:54 PM
I don't understand what the caller was getting at with the reporting. :dunno: Are you implying that because the wolf didn't show up as an illegal take, there's some kind of coverup? How does the reward play into this? How does this relate to our own wolf situation? Thanks.
I was a little confused also, re-reading what Tom wrote sort of clears it up.
I'm didn't imply anything, I posted a wolf story, and I didn't realize all wolf stories had to be about WA's wolves, have things changed on H-W?
I asked you some clear and straight questions and you got defensive. I simply wanted to know what the caller was getting at and what your point was for posting. It's OK for you to say you didn't have one. There was nothing for you to get defensive about.
Post by: wolfbait on May 12, 2015, 09:25:49 PM
I don't understand what the caller was getting at with the reporting. :dunno: Are you implying that because the wolf didn't show up as an illegal take, there's some kind of coverup? How does the reward play into this? How does this relate to our own wolf situation? Thanks.
I was a little confused also, re-reading what Tom wrote sort of clears it up.
I'm didn't imply anything, I posted a wolf story, and I didn't realize all wolf stories had to be about WA's wolves, have things changed on H-W?
I asked you some clear and straight questions and you got defensive. I simply wanted to know what the caller was getting at and what your point was for posting. It's OK for you to say you didn't have one. There was nothing for you to get defensive about.
:chuckle: Calm down P-man, My reply was straight and to the point, any emotion I once had over the wolf issue is long gone.
If you read what Tom wrote and watch the film you should come to the conclusion that there never was a wolf shot as the USFWS had reported. Now the USFWS just want the story to disappear, the land owners and hunters posted the reward to bring it to attention. At least that's what I get out of it.
The introduction of the Red wolves is in-line with what the USFWS and state game agencies have done with the gray wolves.
Inspector General Investigates USFWS "Gunshot" Wolf Scandal Not a valid vimeo URL
Google Red Wolf Restoration $30,000,000.00 Scandal, rather interesting.
Post by: stevemiller on May 12, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 13, 2015, 06:32:17 AM
Post by: wolfbait on May 13, 2015, 08:32:48 AM
>Tue, Apr 30, 2013 2:34 pm
Mr. Miranda,
The arrogance of you to think that you can operate your program outside of the law is utterly amazing. Once again, the "common ground" was clearly defined in 1995 and the USFWS agreed to it.
Are you really serious? You can make the statement: "I am responsible for the implementation and management of the Endangered Species Act and the Red Wolf Recovery Program" and yet you are unable to answer two very basic critical questions regarding the laws governing your program.
Your failure to answer these questions is understandable, because your truthful answers will not stand the test of public scrutiny.
In our meeting 3/22/13, regarding the 1995 revisions, Gordon Myers (NCWRC Director) clearly told David Rabon (USFWS Red Wolf Coordinator) " you may not like the law, but it is the law". You were asked to be in this meeting and declined.
I do not need to be told by USFWS, any more, that red wolves are the next best thing since sliced bread. I have been told this for years by your program directors and biologists.
My family's ability to use our as we had envisioned has been destroyed by USFWS's failure to obey the law. I am intimately familiar with your program and how it has morphed into something totally different than what was promised the citizens of NC.
For the record, I am an owner of Durant Island. This was one of the first sites that you were allowed to release your wolves on private property.
I have met with your biologists, Chris, Art and Ford, in Manteo and on my farm. In fact, Chris Lucash is on speed dial on my phone. He gave me not only his cell phone, but also his home phone number. These are very nice and dedicated individuals, but this does not mean your program can operate outside of the law. I have spoken and written to Bud Fazio, David's predecessor, many times. I have met with David Rabon (Red Wolf Coordinator) twice in Manteo. I requested and received a special meeting in Raleigh with Gordon Myers - NCWRC Director, Mallory Martin - NCWRC Chief Deputy Director, David Rabon - USFWS Red Wolf Coordinator. You were invited, but did not come.
I have discussed your program with your team at the Dixie Deer Classic of all places. I notice you have given up on convincing that crowd how your deer-eating wolf is good for them.
I have sent certified letters to your directors requesting removal of your wolves. Responses have ranged from "walking" the wolves over a period of weeks (so as not to unduly disturb them) across to my neighbors farm, using air horns to scare the wolves across the property line, a threatening denial letter from Department of Interior Attorneys, to now absolutely no response!!!!
I believe, when either Bud Fazio or Mike Phillips was the Red Wolf Coodinator, they did in fact capture a wolf or two only to turn them loose within a few miles of the capture site. Returning wolves are supposed to be placed in a captive breeding program. This was not done.
I resent the fact that you will not comply with your very own rules.
I resent the fact that your breaking the law leaves me defenseless to protect my farm from an arrogant government.
I resent having wolves fill my rifle scope rather than deer.
I resent your program when my 5 year old son cries and is scared to leave the deer stand because four of your wolves, bigger than he, have just departed down the very trail he must walk to return to the house.
I resent having to explain to my 15 year old son why he must obey the law and not shoot your returning wolves in light of the fact that you will not obey the law and remove these very wolves. This is not the lesson that I should have to teach a 15 year old about our government.
I resent that my friends and family no longer want to go to our farm and spend time hunting and enjoying the outdoors.
I resent that not only our deer population but also our rabbit population has been decimated. The turkeys are likely next.
I resent that David Rabon refused to share with me and the NCWRC the pack and tracking information on the wolves, hybrids and coyotes on my farm as requested.
I resent that we can no longer train our bird dogs and pups on our own land without fear of losing them to your wolves.
I resent that you told the farmers the wolves would eat the deer that ate their crops, and now that hunters are crying foul, you claim your wolves eat mostly nutria and beaver!!!
I resent that we used to be able to run rabbits all day long and now these very same fields are barren except for the occasion deer carcass we find with the beagles.
I resent the fact that you have collared wolves, hybrids and coyotes. The already arduous task of differentiating these animals is now impossible.
I resent the fact that I am a law abiding citizen.
I resent that I have not taken the local advise to just "shoot 'em in the gut and let 'em walk off".
I resent that I have obeyed the law and not stacked your wolves up like firewood and delivered them to your door step.
I resent that my obeying the law and your failure to do likewise has left me defenseless to protect my property rights. And you wonder why your program is despised by so many.
Sadly and amazing as it may be, the fact that you will not comply with the law and remove your wolves from my property is not the critical issue.
The real issue is that you have knowingly introduced a top predator that has proven it will readily interbreed with coyotes.
In our 3/22/13 meeting, I handed David Rabon fifty or so pictures of wolf looking canines taken on my farm. I asked him to identify what ones were wolves, hybrids and coyotes. After many minutes and several perplexing looks, he handed the stack back to me and declared he was unable to tell the difference.
I then asked him what a successful wolf program would mean to NC and it's wildlife populations in terms of the obvious resulting explosion of hybrid coywolves. He said it must be researched!!!!
Your most recent wolf reports show that of the 25 wolf packs in Eastern NC, 11 contained coyotes! So, 44% of all your wolf packs now contain a coyote, simply amazing and distressing.
I know you claim to sterilize all the coyotes east of Highway 32 and we shouldn't shoot them because you can manage them. Do you really expect anyone to believe this?
How do you accomplish such an undertaking with three biologist operating on only federal lands?
Or are you just grasping at strings to save your jobs and this extravagant waste of tax payer money that jeopardizes all of NC's wildlife population.
Are you trapping coyotes on private land without permission? Are you trapping out of season? Should I worry that my prize competition bird dog will end up ensnared in your illegally set leg hold trap? Oh, I forget, you are above the law.
Below is a map created in a study by the NC Wildlife Resource Commission that shows the rampant amount of interbreeding of red wolves and coyotes:
Now, I am just a simple man, but it sure looks to me like a successful Red Wolf program will and has resulted in an all new subspecies, the coywolf or hybrid, whose growth will far surpass that of the red wolf.
Your own studies reveal that the diet of a coyote and that of a red wolf are virtually indistinguishable. The NCWRC has determined that the spread of coyotes presents one of the most problematic issues facing NC's wildlife population.
Now you and your program have blessed us with a "super coyote" mix breed that is somehow beneficial to us!
Most NC sportsmen have not had the experience of a 15 member wolf pack residing on their property like I have. It is only a matter of time before either the wolves or the hybrids will become prominent in the Roanoke river basin and begin destroying the great trophy deer herds there and across the state as they have done on my farm.
As I am telling my story, stakeholders from across our state are becoming more educated about what you have done.
Your program has failed in Tennessee and also western NC due to anti wolf public sentiment.
As the Navy discovered with the OLF, eastern NC is not a wasteland set aside for the US government to run wild over!
I assure you, my pursuit of justice on this matter will be unrelenting.
Now Leo, you answer my two questions and answer them NOW!
Most Sincerely,
Jett Ferebee<
http://www.nchuntandfish.com/forums/showthread.php?95624-quot-Red-Wolf-quot-restoration-scandal
Post by: stevemiller on May 13, 2015, 09:58:28 AM
Post by: jasnt on June 01, 2015, 12:29:57 PM