Post by: irishevox on May 13, 2015, 02:03:16 AM
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 13, 2015, 05:28:39 AM
Post by: NW-GSP on May 13, 2015, 06:06:44 AM
Post by: bearpaw on May 13, 2015, 06:18:54 AM
I live in that area. Do you have his address?
If someone local can help, the address and phone number is here: http://10pointtaxidermy.com/
Post by: NW-GSP on May 13, 2015, 06:25:42 AM
Post by: Born2late on May 13, 2015, 06:53:08 AM
last december and turned out nice. I know he works a day job and took a while to return my phone calls also. Still pretty easy to make
a quick phone call to let a guy know how its going.
Post by: irishevox on May 13, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Post by: Tbar on May 13, 2015, 03:51:16 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 13, 2015, 03:57:32 PM
Thanks Tbar for offering to step up to help our huntwa soldier out !
Post by: irishevox on May 13, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Post by: Tbar on May 13, 2015, 05:47:14 PM
Post by: irishevox on May 13, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
Post by: Born2late on May 13, 2015, 06:42:47 PM
Home and wants to talk to you. 425-879-4837 don't email him
He doesn't do email, and he said he hasn't got any messages from
You. I don't know if you left messages or just hung up cause he
Didn't answer. Let me know if you need more. It's only been 10
Months so I don't know if time expectations were discussed or not.
But obviously you two need to talk.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on May 13, 2015, 06:56:51 PM
Post by: Buckmark on May 13, 2015, 07:10:49 PM
Post by: irishevox on May 13, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
I stopped by and talked to him. If you can call him tonight he'sHe did email me but I can't call him I am on deployment... it is impossible.
Home and wants to talk to you. 425-879-4837 don't email him
He doesn't do email, and he said he hasn't got any messages from
You. I don't know if you left messages or just hung up cause he
Didn't answer. Let me know if you need more. It's only been 10
Months so I don't know if time expectations were discussed or not.
But obviously you two need to talk.
I truly appreciate helping me with this and getting a hold of him the biggest issue is that if he doesn't do email he needs to remove the email from his Website. You have no idea how grateful I am you helping me with this.
Post by: bobcat on May 13, 2015, 09:02:54 PM
Post by: TVHunts on May 13, 2015, 09:16:54 PM
I stopped by and talked to him. If you can call him tonight he's
Home and wants to talk to you. 425-879-4837 don't email him
He doesn't do email, and he said he hasn't got any messages from
You. I don't know if you left messages or just hung up cause he
Didn't answer. Let me know if you need more. It's only been 10
Months so I don't know if time expectations were discussed or not.
But obviously you two need to talk.
Awesome, thanks to all for helping Irishevox out, I also live close to the taxi.
Irishevox PM me if you need it picked up and shipped in the future, I would be glad to help out anyway I can.
Thanks for your service!
Post by: Magnum_Willys on May 13, 2015, 09:40:08 PM
Thanks for helpin out !
Post by: rasbo on May 14, 2015, 04:01:29 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on May 14, 2015, 09:44:42 AM
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Can your wife call the taxidermist?
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My wife calls multiple times while I am still on deployment here and no answer my wife and I emailed him several times with no response....
Post by: Kuduman on May 14, 2015, 01:06:37 PM
1. What was the stated turn around time on your rug.
IMHO your way to wound up over waiting a whole 8 months for a bear rug when the industry standard is 18-24 months.
2. Why state that you feel that your bear was stolen
IMHO your insinuating that this taxidermist ripped you off yet from what I can see you have offered no clear evidence that there is any wrong doing on his part except possible poor communications on both parties part. Clearly there are circumstances here that lend themselves to poor communications which is why if you were going out of conus you should have taken care of prior to departure. I see absolutely no reason to call out this business online in an attempt to discredit his business.
I'll leave you with this note:
You paid nothing down, gave no indication of an expected turn around time and Incited the hunt wa community to PRESSURE this business. There are far too many people here that have waited FAR FAR FAR FAR longer than 8 months to receive their goods from their taxidermists. Personally I think you should have thought twice before posting this with the business name attached to it.
:twocents:
Post by: Gringo31 on May 14, 2015, 01:24:37 PM
Post by: jackelope on May 14, 2015, 01:28:31 PM
I have a problem when I read this thread and I have a few questions for the OP
1. What was the stated turn around time on your rug.
IMHO your way to wound up over waiting a whole 8 months for a bear rug when the industry standard is 18-24 months.
2. Why state that you feel that your bear was stolen
IMHO your insinuating that this taxidermist ripped you off yet from what I can see you have offered no clear evidence that there is any wrong doing on his part except possible poor communications on both parties part. Clearly there are circumstances here that lend themselves to poor communications which is why if you were going out of conus you should have taken care of prior to departure. I see absolutely no reason to call out this business online in an attempt to discredit his business.
I'll leave you with this note:
You paid nothing down, gave no indication of an expected turn around time and Incited the hunt wa community to PRESSURE this business. There are far too many people here that have waited FAR FAR FAR FAR longer than 8 months to receive their goods from their taxidermists. Personally I think you should have thought twice before posting this with the business name attached to it.
:twocents:
Multiple good points. Especially since you can't call the guy due to your deployment....
Post by: irishevox on May 14, 2015, 04:42:32 PM
I have a problem when I read this thread and I have a few questions for the OP
1. What was the stated turn around time on your rug.
IMHO your way to wound up over waiting a whole 8 months for a bear rug when the industry standard is 18-24 months.
2. Why state that you feel that your bear was stolen
IMHO your insinuating that this taxidermist ripped you off yet from what I can see you have offered no clear evidence that there is any wrong doing on his part except possible poor communications on both parties part. Clearly there are circumstances here that lend themselves to poor communications which is why if you were going out of conus you should have taken care of prior to departure. I see absolutely no reason to call out this business online in an attempt to discredit his business.
I'll leave you with this note:
You paid nothing down, gave no indication of an expected turn around time and Incited the hunt wa community to PRESSURE this business. There are far too many people here that have waited FAR FAR FAR FAR longer than 8 months to receive their goods from their taxidermists. Personally I think you should have thought twice before posting this with the business name attached to it.
:twocents:
Kudman... You assuming I didn't take care of as much as I could before hand is insulting. I did when I talked to him about turn around time he didn't not give me a guaranteed date, but provided me with a round about date. After several emails etc... his excuse was he doesn't check emails. If that's the case remove email from your website. Secondly The communication was done countless times by my wife and I emailing and my wife calling. And I do not care what other people have done it's not me I am the customer. The fact is and the amazing thing is one person stopped by and I got an email. Imagine that. Yeah I think that if you are going to run a business you should keep constant communication with your customers and keep up on your emails. Electronic communication is a big thing in the 21st Century. I didn't directly state that he stole the bear I said it feel like it was. If it was "stolen" I would have taken a different route. I am not really wound up about the 8 months to be honest I am wound up about when I ask a question or have a request, and my wife calls and her and I email several times and hear nothing back... there is a problem here, not with me per say, but with how a business is run. IMHO please know facts before I give your :twocents: or feel free to PM me if u have any other questions I can answer for you
Post by: Kuduman on May 14, 2015, 07:51:55 PM
had you gotten on here and ask if anyone could assist you in getting in contact with your taxidermist seeing as you are deployed.... Hell I would have wanted to help. But that's not what you did... You started out by inferring that you feel like you got ripped off. If you equate missed calls and unanswered e mails to being ripped off then brother you need to look at some other threads on here.
Again I ask what was the turnaround time. that caused you to feel this way after 8 months.
There are allot of good people on there that have been blatantly lied to and have far better reasons to rant so quite honestly your whole approach to this baffles me.
GOOD LUCK
Post by: Threewolves on May 15, 2015, 08:28:00 AM
And holy crap 18 to 24 months as an industry standard---screw that. If the longest term part of the project is getting it tanned. I would suggest using Moyle Mink & Tannery in Heyburn ID. I have had bear and elk hides done in one to two months. The do garment grade or taxidermy grade. Seems like otter, bobcat, coyote and beaver come back pretty quick. Just reminder to have the cities tags on otter and bobcat no one will touch them without the tags.
I have had a bear and coyotes done taxidermy grade just in case I every wanted to do anything with them. The bear I have hanging over an elk hide on a half wall and looks pretty cool that way. I would have the bear rugged out, but I have a bigger one on the wall already and the only way I would rug another one is if it was significally bigger and a different color phase. For 140.00 to a 150.00 a running foot that taxidermist want a 5 1/2 foot bear is going to cost you 825.00 plus tax
I think MM&T charged me 60.00 for the bear, maybe it was 90.00. So, I was thinking I have a bear hide tanned out, watch a you tube video, buy a head form for a rug mount, some felt for the border and presto! a bear rugged out. Nope, it is fine just as it is, I just need to get a bigger bear
I don't know maybe taxidermists are being overwhelmed and are super backed up. I do know that I can get coyote tanned for 25.00 and they make great wall hangings (case skinned, not rugged out) next to your elk or deer mounts. 25.00 for tanning is cheap if you have ever spent the time and energy trying to tan something your self. I should have added my thoughts time frames and taxidermist, but that is also in my list of replies. Communicate. Paul A.
Post by: Kuduman on May 15, 2015, 10:31:13 AM
You are absolutely right MM&T can get your hides out pretty quick and your also right that they do garment quality tan. I know this because the last time I used them to tan a cougar hide it came back with a missing ear so their line between garment quality and taxidermy quality can get pretty thin and that's simply not acceptable to me.
Now i ask you. what do I tell the customer that hires me to mount his once in a lifetime cat when his hide come back with a missing ear, that you wanted to save money on the tan.......... I wanted it quicker........ :dunno:
Good commercial tanneries that consistently put out a quality tanned hide can be extremely busy and backlogged. The longest I've waited for a tanning order is 12 months. my current fall 2014 order has been at my tannery since January. Once the hide is mounted and stretched it has to go to rugging and that can take an additional 4-6 months depending on how busy the rugger is.
I think it great that you dabble in taxidermy when you get items you want tanned but do me a favor. take the time you have invested in that one bear that you had tanned and times it by 20 add 50 deer 12 elk 5 cougars half a dozen bobcat, coyotes and about 25 pheasants, quail and grouse 12 bear skulls 6 European elk and a dozen deer European mounts with a smattering of antler and horn mounts and you might start getting a better perspective of what running a shop is all about.
Post by: bearpaw on May 15, 2015, 01:06:28 PM
I also should mention that kuduman is correct, most good taxis are backed up 18-24 months or more. Depending on the procedure used by the taxi sometimes turnaround is much faster with deer but a bear rug usually takes much longer. Just trying to offer some friendly advice! :twocents:
Post by: CoryTDF on May 15, 2015, 01:52:59 PM
Post by: Kuduman on May 15, 2015, 02:54:56 PM
I think you hit the nail on the head. there has to me more that were not privy to concerning this situation. Id be willing to chalk this up as a bad communication problem but to say you feel that your bear was stolen when there's no deposit.
I know of few taxidermist that actually do work without a deposit. That said....I will only if its been a long standing customer but most of them know how I operate and seldom expect me to work for free. especially when its an item that goes to the tannery.
At the end of the day the taxidermy industry is allot like life...... Money talks and BS walks. I almost never work on projects that I haven't been paid to work on. Its just not fair to the people that have put money up front.
Post by: irishevox on May 15, 2015, 03:41:57 PM
Post by: h20hunter on May 15, 2015, 03:45:12 PM
Post by: kramer on May 15, 2015, 10:09:12 PM
Post by: bearpaw on May 15, 2015, 11:07:14 PM
When did the industry standard become 18 to 24 months ? I could understand 12 to 14 but 18 to 24 seems crazy. I budget a thousand dollars a year for taxidermy and have never had anything take 18 months. We already have back one deer that was killed this year in November and wasn't taken in until December. Got it back a month ago.
As I mentioned in my earlier comment, many taxis that get deer out quickly, often in a few months, most of those taxis are doing an in house tan, those deer hides are probably not going to a tannery. But, most taxis send bear to a tannery and many tanneries will take longer to get the hide back to the taxi than what it takes a taxi to do an entire deer mount. For this reason bear mounts usually take longer.
I refer dozens of hunters to about a half dozen taxis in 4 states every year. The two fastest taxis, one in Montana is about 6-12 months on average but at times he has taken longer. My next fastest taxi is in Utah, he was at about 12 months but it seems like 12-16 months is getting to be more his time frame. Most other taxis I have dealt with are running longer time frames except for deer which as stated are often done faster due to the in house process.
Keep in mind, in most cases this time frame is due to basic supply and demand, some taxis have longer time frames because a large number of hunters like their work and are willing to wait for their mount to be done by that taxi. Sort of like beauticians in my town, the one my wife likes to go to is booked out 1 to 2 months in advance! :dunno:
Post by: Bean Counter on May 16, 2015, 01:54:04 AM
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Post by: bearpaw on May 16, 2015, 09:10:22 AM
Post by: Threewolves on June 05, 2015, 09:13:14 AM
Ref tanning. What to you think happened to the cougar's ear? did the hunter split/turn the cougar's ear? did the ear turn up? did they ever find it? offer any explanation? did it look like it was just pulled off like it got caught in some kind of machinery? Remember I don't know the circumstances of the cougar's ear did the hunter skin it out and forget to turn the ear or maybe rubbed salt it. Maybe something in their solution?
I don't think salt would be an issue since MMT tells people to use salt. As apposed to prepping hides for market at NAFA, just salting bear and elk hides for tanning seems easy at least for me.
Post by: Kuduman on June 06, 2015, 11:57:47 AM
I turned, fleshed and salted so I know that was done correct.
The ear was shaved off
Post by: Threewolves on June 07, 2015, 06:10:55 AM
Crap, (the whole missing ear thing) that really blows. I've seen Taxidermist fix some pretty amazing issues, but for the life of me I can't thinks of what could be done about a missing ear. Take Care,
Post by: irishevox on June 30, 2015, 05:48:19 PM
Post by: Kuduman on July 02, 2015, 06:41:05 PM
12 calls in 3 weeks. Im beginning to see the problem. :bash:
Post by: HntnFsh on July 02, 2015, 07:38:20 PM
:yike:
12 calls in 3 weeks. Im beginning to see the problem. :bash:
Me too! The guy doesn't return calls! Great customer service! :o
Post by: Kuduman on July 03, 2015, 09:07:46 AM
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Post by: pashok23 on July 18, 2015, 02:59:55 PM