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Title: Off to South Africa in the morning
Post by: Bob33 on May 15, 2015, 07:45:51 AM
I leave in the morning with my 13 year old son for South Africa to hunt plains game. Lots of planning has gone into the trip. One of the toughest tasks was convincing my wife to let him out of school for two weeks. He had no problem with it.

I plan to post a story with photos when we get back.   
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Post by: jackelope on May 15, 2015, 07:50:11 AM
Can't wait to see the pictures and the story, Bob. This will be an unforgettable trip for the 2 of you.

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Post by: HornHoarder on May 15, 2015, 07:50:48 AM
Have fun, and good luck!
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Post by: MLBowhunting on May 15, 2015, 08:05:34 AM
Very cool.  My Lil brother is heading that way in September.  Your pics and stories should fire him up.
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Post by: Netminder01 on May 15, 2015, 08:08:53 AM
Have a blast Bob! I can't wait to hear the story and see the pics! Safe travels!!!
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Post by: Ridgerunner on May 15, 2015, 08:20:02 AM
Oh man, what a fun trip that will be.  I am so jealous.  Have a great time.  Cant wait for the photos when you get back.
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Post by: BNAElkhntr on May 15, 2015, 08:28:23 AM
Wow that should be Fun For your Son,  What Animals Are you Planning on?   I've been Twice  and still want to go back again.  My Daughter had a Blast last time with me
What airline you Flying?   If Its SAA better get butt pads and a neck pillows
Have Fun   !!  its quite a sensory overload !
Title: Re: Off to South Africa in the morning
Post by: Bob33 on May 15, 2015, 08:32:55 AM
I'm taking a rifle but not planning to do any hunting myself. I'm there primarily to make sure my son has a good time. He is planning to hunt for kudu, gemsbok, impala, zebra, and possibly some other species depending on what we see and know when there.

We are flying Delta through Atlanta.

I grew up never wanting to go to Africa, but went in 2012 and hoped that I'd be back again some day.
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Post by: runningboard on May 15, 2015, 08:51:45 AM
good luck and have a blast!
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Post by: magnanimous_j on May 15, 2015, 08:57:25 AM
I grew up never wanting to go to Africa, but went in 2012 and hoped that I'd be back again some day.

Same here. I didn’t think I’d ever set foot on the continent, but this March I went to the Seychelles for my honeymoon and just fell in love it. My plan is to do a safari for my 40th birthday.

What made you pick SA over other common safari spots?
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Post by: WAcoueshunter on May 15, 2015, 09:23:29 AM
Bob - have a great time, can't wait to read about it!  What a great experience for your son.   :tup:
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Post by: Ddouble on May 15, 2015, 09:28:06 AM
Enjoy
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Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 15, 2015, 09:30:26 AM
What a memory for the lad....have fun.
Title: Re: Off to South Africa in the morning
Post by: Bob33 on May 15, 2015, 09:30:58 AM
I grew up never wanting to go to Africa, but went in 2012 and hoped that I'd be back again some day.

Same here. I didn’t think I’d ever set foot on the continent, but this March I went to the Seychelles for my honeymoon and just fell in love it. My plan is to do a safari for my 40th birthday.

What made you pick SA over other common safari spots?
I purchased the hunt at a Safari Club banquet. I can't personally compare South Africa to other hunt destinations, but based on reading and speaking with others I believe the number and diversity of animals that one sees in the African countries has no equal. New Zealand, for example is a beautiful country and has great stag hunting but in South Africa you can see 15 or 20 different species in the same day. They have well established outfitting businesses that cater to hunters.

If you shop carefully, a hunt in an African country for multiple species can be as cheap or cheaper than a single specie hunt in North America.

Honestly, the challenge to keeping the trip affordable is keeping your finger off the trigger. In North America, we're used to having one tag per year for an animal (deer, elk, etc.) In South Africa, there are no bag limits. If you want to shoot 35 impalas, go right ahead. You just have to pay for each one.
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Post by: bearpaw on May 15, 2015, 09:36:25 AM
I'm taking a rifle but not planning to do any hunting myself. I'm there primarily to make sure my son has a good time. He is planning to hunt for kudu, gemsbok, impala, zebra, and possibly some other species depending on what we see and know when there.

We are flying Delta through Atlanta.

I grew up never wanting to go to Africa, but went in 2012 and hoped that I'd be back again some day.

Hope you both have a great trip!  :tup:
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Post by: grundy53 on May 15, 2015, 09:57:39 AM
Sounds like a blast. Hope you and your son have a great time.
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Post by: lokidog on May 15, 2015, 12:17:47 PM
Bob, who are you going with?  My parents just flew down there on Wednesday for a hunt.
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Post by: Kuduman on May 15, 2015, 01:03:17 PM
Bob
 Africa for me is as addictive as heroin..... :chuckle:
I went in 2009 and am meeting with a group next month to plan next years trip. Cant wait

Have a great time.

Kuduman
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Post by: bowhunterforever on May 15, 2015, 01:29:37 PM
Sounds like a blast. Hope you and your son have a great time.
:yeah: Good luck
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Post by: pianoman9701 on May 15, 2015, 02:59:59 PM
All the best of luck for a great trip, Bob. :tup:
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Post by: 3nails on May 15, 2015, 06:26:26 PM
 Looking forward to seeing success photos! Keep an eye in the grass.....
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Post by: police women of America on May 15, 2015, 06:37:06 PM
Good luck!  :tup:
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Post by: rasbo on May 16, 2015, 03:02:50 AM
good luck and have a blast with your son,what a cool trip for you two
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Post by: Bean Counter on May 16, 2015, 04:51:07 AM
Have a great trip, Bob! Can't wait to see the photos.

I grew up never wanting to go to Africa, but went in 2012 and hoped that I'd be back again some day.

Same here. I didn’t think I’d ever set foot on the continent, but this March I went to the Seychelles for my honeymoon and just fell in love it. My plan is to do a safari for my 40th birthday.

What made you pick SA over other common safari spots?
I purchased the hunt at a Safari Club banquet. I can't personally compare South Africa to other hunt destinations, but based on reading and speaking with others I believe the number and diversity of animals that one sees in the African countries has no equal. New Zealand, for example is a beautiful country and has great stag hunting but in South Africa you can see 15 or 20 different species in the same day. They have well established outfitting businesses that cater to hunters.

If you shop carefully, a hunt in an African country for multiple species can be as cheap or cheaper than a single specie hunt in North America.

Honestly, the challenge to keeping the trip affordable is keeping your finger off the trigger. In North America, we're used to having one tag per year for an animal (deer, elk, etc.) In South Africa, there are no bag limits. If you want to shoot 35 impalas, go right ahead. You just have to pay for each one.

For me a factor would be the influence of the British crown in the precedents of their legal system. I know crime is rampant in South Africa just as much, if not moreso than other African nations, but I would feel a little bit better about laws and rights without having looked at specifics.
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Post by: hunterofelk on May 19, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
I hunted in Namibia, but the trophies where sent to a taxidermist in Cape Town. After two years of waiting, I got the big crate. Only half of the mounts were mine. The kudu, gemsbok and springbok were not the animals I killed. Too bad cause the springbok was a sixteen inch.
Title: Re: Off to South Africa in the morning
Post by: jackmaster on May 19, 2015, 06:55:43 AM
tagging, good luck, cant wait for pics, i fly out tomorrow for atlanta also on delta but atlanta is as far as i am going  :chuckle:
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Post by: ribka on May 19, 2015, 07:49:10 AM
Good luck

Looking forward to your report :tup:
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Post by: kukusya on May 19, 2015, 07:51:09 AM
tag
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Post by: shootem on May 19, 2015, 09:52:58 PM
Tag. Gotta see some pics.
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Post by: Jarhead Chase on May 19, 2015, 10:20:03 PM
Tag
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Post by: magnanimous_j on May 20, 2015, 09:02:01 AM
I hope you get enough Boerewors while you're over there. The ones you can get here just aren't the same.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on May 28, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
Anyone heard anything from Bob yet?
Title: Re: Off to South Africa in the morning
Post by: Bob33 on May 29, 2015, 07:26:04 AM
We got home yesterday after a long day of flying and airports (16 hours from Johannesberg to Atlanta, and another five home).

There are many highlights: my son being able to visit another continent, country, and culture; seeing more animals in a day than you can imagine, the superb treatment by the outfitter, a dark night sky full of stars and constellations, big game hunts, bird hunts, a visit to the local school where my son was treated live a famous athlete (not too many blond kids over 5' there), and more.

I was fortunate to be able to do this with my son. It's an experience we will both always remember and cherish.

I'll post more photos and information when I can. Here are a few.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on May 29, 2015, 07:49:17 AM
Memories for a lifetime, Bob. That's a world-class kudu, too. Very nice! Welcome home.
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Post by: Netminder01 on May 29, 2015, 08:06:12 AM
Kicking myself a little.

Welcome home Bob and congratulations to Matthew!
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Post by: Curly on May 29, 2015, 08:09:25 AM
Congrats!  :tup:  Thanks for sharing the pics. 

 8)
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Post by: BNAElkhntr on May 29, 2015, 08:10:30 AM
Welcome Home and Congrats to your Son   
He will remember this hunt with you forever!
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Post by: SemperFidelis97 on May 29, 2015, 08:28:02 AM
Great pics Bob looking foreword to more when you have time to post them, what a fantastic experience for your son.
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Post by: Bob33 on May 29, 2015, 08:41:14 AM
Memories for a lifetime, Bob. That's a world-class kudu, too. Very nice! Welcome home.
The kudu has 57" horns and an interesting history. The PH that guided us said he has been hunting that specific kudu for over five years. He has personally guided at least seven hunters for it. For one reason or another, it eluded them. It actually has a bullet hole in one ear from a near miss. He was a wily old bull, similar in his senses to what a mature bull elk might be like. We heard one day from another PH that the bull had been spotted on property they could hunt, so we went after him. My son was fortunate to get a glimpse of him and made a nice shot.
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Post by: grundy53 on May 29, 2015, 08:44:49 AM
Looks like you guys had an excellent trip. Great memories that your son will cherish for the rest of his life.
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Post by: Rob on May 29, 2015, 09:58:28 AM
Outstanding!!!
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Post by: Timberstalker on May 29, 2015, 10:11:36 AM
Awesome adventure.  Looking forward to more pictures and stories. :tup:
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Post by: Ridgerunner on May 29, 2015, 12:10:56 PM
Wow, great pics, can't wait for more, I'd like to get more info on this hunt from you when you have a chance!
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Post by: starbailey on May 29, 2015, 12:23:03 PM
looks like a great adventure :tup:
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Post by: jackelope on May 29, 2015, 12:35:27 PM
Awesome stuff, Bob.
 Can't wait for the rest of the pictures.
What rifle was your son shooting?
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Post by: Bob33 on May 29, 2015, 12:37:44 PM
Awesome stuff, Bob.
 Can't wait for the rest of the pictures.
What rifle was your son shooting?
My son used a 7mm-08 and 140 grain Barnes TTSX bullets.
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Post by: bobcat on May 29, 2015, 12:40:00 PM
All I know is I wish I was your son.  :chuckle: 

Good to hear that the hunt went well.
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Post by: Tbob on May 29, 2015, 04:36:10 PM
So so jealous! Glad you guys had a fun, safe trip!
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Post by: Bob33 on May 30, 2015, 04:54:11 PM
More photos.
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Post by: Bob33 on May 30, 2015, 04:55:44 PM
More photos.
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Post by: Bob33 on May 30, 2015, 04:57:16 PM
More photos.
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Post by: Timberstalker on May 30, 2015, 05:56:23 PM
Awesome pictures. What a great trip.
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Post by: bowhunterforever on May 30, 2015, 06:42:27 PM
Looks like you guys had a great trip :tup: Some great trophies too
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Post by: lokidog on June 01, 2015, 10:28:06 PM
Looks like you guys had a great trip :tup: Some great trophies too

 :yeah:
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Post by: stew pidasso on June 02, 2015, 06:30:19 AM
Great photographs, looks like a blast.
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Post by: bearpaw on June 02, 2015, 06:59:06 AM
Looks like a great time, congrats to you both!  :tup:
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Post by: LeviD1 on June 19, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
Thats awesome! This is one of the things on my hunt list along with new Zealand red stag.
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Post by: westside Elkhunter on June 20, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
That's awesome. Congrats to you and your son. Great trophies and great memories. Enjoyed the great photos to. :)
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Post by: rasbo on July 30, 2015, 04:11:15 AM
outstanding :tup: :tup:
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Post by: coachcw on July 30, 2015, 05:41:53 AM
What a dream hunt ! congrats on a great hunt , that kuiu must have been the highlight .
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Post by: C-Money on July 30, 2015, 06:47:38 AM
Very nice! Looks like a great time. What Cal rifle did your son use on the hunts?
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Post by: rtspring on July 30, 2015, 07:06:23 AM
Amazing!  Bob, care to share the cost? Outfitter you used?
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Post by: Gringo31 on July 30, 2015, 09:29:19 AM
 :rockin: :rockin: :rockin: :whoo:
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Post by: Buckblaster on July 30, 2015, 11:44:10 AM
Very, very cool!  That's what kids dreams are made of.  Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: Machias on July 31, 2015, 12:44:57 PM
Awesome, congrats!!!
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Post by: ribka on August 01, 2015, 09:16:59 AM
great pics

looks like your son took some nice anmals :tup:
Title: Re: Off to South Africa in the morning
Post by: Bob33 on August 01, 2015, 12:44:12 PM
I’ve been asked a few questions about the outfitter I hunted with, and suggestions for first time visitors to Africa.

I hunted with Kuvhima. http://www.kuvhima.co.za/

I had a very favorable experience with them, would hunt with them again, and would recommend them. I will add that there are literally hundreds of outfitters in South Africa, and most have good reputations. It’s harder to find a poor outfitter than a good one. I’ve hunted with three, and would not recommend one of them because of the pressure they put on me to shoot more animals.

My hunt was purchased at a Safari Club banquet during a live auction. Most of the wildlife conservation organizations (Safari Club, RMEF, Ducks Unlimited, Wild Sheep, etc.) have fund raising banquets annually and some great bargains on foreign hunts can be found. Beware of the fine print with some such as “must bring one full paying partner”.

Here are some of my recommendations for first time hunters to Africa, with emphasis on making it more economical.

1. Set a realistic budget. The largest expense is usually trophy fees. In most places, and for most species you can shoot as many as you want to pay for. For a North American hunter used to having one tag per year, it’s like a kid in a candy shot who hasn’t eaten in a week. You'll probably see more animals in the first morning than you will in a year of hunting in North America.

2. Plan to return. When you start thinking “this is the one and only trip I’ll ever take to Africa” you tend to start shooting and mounting everything you can. You can easily end up spending $10,000 more than you planned because “it’s my only chance”.

3. Plan alternate activities in addition to hunting. Go visit a local village, and see if you can visit a school. Take a camera and spend a few days photographing rather than shooting animals. Go bird hunting or fishing one day.

4. Communicate early, often, and clearly with your outfitter. Talk to your outfitter and be candid. Tell him what your budget is. If he is wise and wants your repeat business and references, he will respect that and not try to talk you into shooting more than you are comfortable. But leave yourself a little wiggle room, because you most likely will shoot more animals than you planned. Be honest about your physical condition and limitations. Be honest about your shooting abilities. Ask for his input. Treat him and his staff with respect, and you will have a better experience.

5. Go easy on the taxidermy. Getting your “once in a lifetime” animals mounted and shipped back can run into thousands of dollars, very easily. Bring a few back, but think about putting together a photo album instead. Remember, you’re going back!
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Post by: Rob on August 13, 2015, 10:15:13 AM
Great advice Bob!  All valid points.
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Post by: jackmaster on August 13, 2015, 02:06:00 PM
this may be a dumb question but why shoot something if you cant bring it back? just curious.. is it true that they let you shoot all the baboons you want for free? i would love to someday make a trip there. is it ever not stupid hot there?
Title: Re: Off to South Africa in the morning
Post by: Bob33 on August 13, 2015, 02:18:41 PM
this may be a dumb question but why shoot something if you cant bring it back? just curious.. is it true that they let you shoot all the baboons you want for free? i would love to someday make a trip there. is it ever not stupid hot there?
You can bring back heads, capes, etc. You cannot bring back meat, but I'm not sure you'd want to try. The costs of transporting it would be prohibitive, plus customs/immigration would never allow it. Eat it there while it is fresh, and donate the surplus to the locals who really appreciate it.

I don't know of any outfitter that offers unlimited free baboon shooting.

In the May/June timeframe, temperatures in South Africa typically run between 45-50 at night and 75-80 during the day.
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Post by: jackmaster on August 13, 2015, 03:14:46 PM
this may be a dumb question but why shoot something if you cant bring it back? just curious.. is it true that they let you shoot all the baboons you want for free? i would love to someday make a trip there. is it ever not stupid hot there?
You can bring back heads, capes, etc. You cannot bring back meat, but I'm not sure you'd want to try. The costs of transporting it would be prohibitive, plus customs/immigration would never allow it. Eat it there while it is fresh, and donate the surplus to the locals who really appreciate it.

I don't know of any outfitter that offers unlimited free baboon shooting.

In the May/June timeframe, temperatures in South Africa typically run between 45-50 at night and 75-80 during the day.
thanks for the info, did you guys shoot any birds while you were there, it might be argentina that i am thinking of but they have dove shoots that are epic.. did you guys see any baboons? i heard those things are just down right nasty violent, like steal kids from their village violent :dunno:
Title: Re: Off to South Africa in the morning
Post by: Bob33 on August 13, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
I did shoot some birds, although that was not our primary focus. If (when) I go back, I will plan to do more bird hunting.

There are lots of baboons. They are nasty little critters, and can be vicious and downright mean. I didn't hunt them, but if I had more time I'd like to. They will great into houses and steal things, and have been known to attack humans.
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Post by: Smoke on August 13, 2015, 03:46:14 PM
looks like your son really enjoyed himself.. and got some great trophies to boot :) ... I've got a trip planned for next June, bow hunting in the Zululand area, and was wondering about mounting/shipping costs.  Cant seem to find info anywhere that talks cost...  Allowed 4 animals with my package, and just plan on mounting the best one, and shipping horns with skull plate back for the others... in your experience, how much do you think I should plan on spending?
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Post by: h2ofowlr on August 13, 2015, 04:31:48 PM
Great pictures.  Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: JJB11B on August 13, 2015, 08:26:03 PM
I was looking for pictures of a lion... Then I looked all the way back to the beginning. That looks like a great time. Congrats
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