Post by: DJ_Mack on May 27, 2015, 11:27:19 PM
Post by: WoolyRunner on May 28, 2015, 06:45:48 AM
Post by: raydog on May 28, 2015, 07:09:37 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on May 28, 2015, 07:12:06 AM
Post by: wsmnut on May 28, 2015, 07:18:32 AM
Let us know what you think if you get them.
Wsmnut
Post by: Rainier10 on May 28, 2015, 07:35:57 AM
Looking forward to hearing what anyone that has tried the R/T's has to say.
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 28, 2015, 07:35:57 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 28, 2015, 07:37:45 AM
Friend had the MT's on a full size ford. Sucked in the snow/ice
You mean like compact snow right? M/Ts aired down are the best tires for deep snow in my experience.
You dead set on Toyo's? Much better brands out there..IMO
:yeah: x 1000
Post by: turbo on May 28, 2015, 07:53:14 AM
Post by: DJ_Mack on May 28, 2015, 08:07:25 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 28, 2015, 08:11:25 AM
I'm not dead set on Toyo's but I have had fantastic experiences with them on all my rides. I am probably looking at 285/70 on 17.
I haven't ran anything Toyo on that small of a rig, maybe they work better on a lighter truck. I'd look at the Cooper ST MAXX or some Nitto Trail Grapplers. I can personally say that those Nitto Trail Grapplers have an awesome look and great M/T traction but are nice and quiet :tup:
Post by: elkaholic123 on May 28, 2015, 08:12:04 AM
I just switched from MT's to RT's when I bought new ones after 70 on the MT's. Both work well in the snow but the RT's seem superior in the snow and especially the ice in my opinion. WAAAAAAAYYY quieter. The RT's are an upgrade in my experience. Not in the mud but everywhere else. I have 3/4 ton diesel dodge towing sleds and stuff and lots of snow time. Well, not this year..When and where did you get the r/t's? I can't seem to find any in stock
Post by: trophyhunt on May 28, 2015, 08:18:18 AM
Post by: mikeybuck on May 28, 2015, 12:18:39 PM
Snow, ice, sand, they suck! Even with 5psi.
Plus is they look good, and last a long time.
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 28, 2015, 12:21:25 PM
Had a set of mt on a duramax.... and my Tacoma came with a set of toyo mt.
Snow, ice, sand, they suck! Even with 5psi.
Plus is they look good, and last a long time.
"Hey, he sucks at his job but darn it if he ain't a good lookin' fella and he's been here forever..."
:chuckle:
Post by: jjhunter on May 28, 2015, 12:40:37 PM
Post by: syoungs on May 28, 2015, 12:44:26 PM
first rig ate threw tires at about 40k miles, f350, probably grossed 10k daily, and towed a 10k# trailer 3-6 days a week. good traction for most of the time.
current set is on my f250, they are older, wear like iron. probably 50k on them right now with 35ish% tread left, problem is they are like 5 years old, and getting super hard. I can break the rear end loose on in the rain doing 50mph.
I will probably buy them again, though I have been looking at maybe getting more of an AT tire. trucks to heavy to use in the mud anyways.
Post by: DJ_Mack on May 28, 2015, 01:05:33 PM
I just put wheels and tires on my 2015 trd sport double cab. 265/70r17 is as big/wide as you can go without leveling or lift. I went with the At2s and they look and ride great.
Can you post a picture?
Post by: baker5150 on May 28, 2015, 01:14:56 PM
Had a set of mt on a duramax.... and my Tacoma came with a set of toyo mt.
Snow, ice, sand, they suck! Even with 5psi.
Plus is they look good, and last a long time.
Funny how some guys say they suck and others say they are great.
I have had great luck with the M/T's in snow, ice and mud. Pulled my 10k trailer 100 yards thru the mud last year to get out of Elk camp. With a slight uphill grade, Other guys had to chain up to get out.
No experience in sand.
I think a lot has to do with how you drive, and what you expect them to do in each situation.
I wont buy the M/T's again however, too loud on the highway.
Post by: wsmnut on May 28, 2015, 01:18:28 PM
I just put wheels and tires on my 2015 trd sport double cab. 265/70r17 is as big/wide as you can go without leveling or lift. I went with the At2s and they look and ride great.
JJ,
I am leaning toward the ATII as well. How do you like them? How is the noise factor?
Wsmnut
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 28, 2015, 01:21:37 PM
Post by: syoungs on May 28, 2015, 01:32:02 PM
I think im going to switch it up some and run the cooper discovery st maxx. pretty good reviews, should be better on the hiway and still good enough traction to get me around in the woods/desert just fine.
Post by: jjhunter on May 28, 2015, 07:24:08 PM
I just put wheels and tires on my 2015 trd sport double cab. 265/70r17 is as big/wide as you can go without leveling or lift. I went with the At2s and they look and ride great.
Can you post a picture?
They ride nice - they are a little noisier than the factory tires, but not bad at all. They are 265/70R17. I think you gain around 1" in height over factory.
Post by: DJ_Mack on May 28, 2015, 11:02:34 PM
Post by: huntnnw on May 31, 2015, 09:40:58 PM
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Post by: Coastal_native on May 31, 2015, 09:53:12 PM
I just switched from MT's to RT's when I bought new ones after 70 on the MT's. Both work well in the snow but the RT's seem superior in the snow and especially the ice in my opinion. WAAAAAAAYYY quieter. The RT's are an upgrade in my experience. Not in the mud but everywhere else. I have 3/4 ton diesel dodge towing sleds and stuff and lots of snow time. Well, not this year..
:yeah: Just switched from MT to RT recently. I'm not sure you'll find a tire with aggressive tread that rides as good.
Post by: GoldenOscar on June 04, 2015, 12:48:50 AM
I ran the M/T on my 2010 Tacoma and they did excellent in the deep wet snow and the mud, I very much prefer Goodyear Duramax tires though. Rated as a snow tire they are incredible offroad and the ride on the road is 10x better and quieter than the Toyos.
Post by: DJ_Mack on June 18, 2015, 10:53:22 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on June 18, 2015, 10:57:31 PM
Post by: Special T on June 18, 2015, 11:20:29 PM
MOST people dont drive 50/50 on/ off road so they should buy an A/T and chains. unless your a logger or farmer then that may change. If your a logger then your likely a die hard toyo M 55 fan and i can't say i blame you... LOTs of your fellow loggers agree. IMO if a was a generic hunter that liked to offroad a bit id get the M55... IMO its kind of like the old BFG mud terrain. the best compromise between off road performance and street wear....
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 18, 2015, 11:28:48 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 19, 2015, 04:43:34 PM
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Post by: DJ_Mack on June 19, 2015, 09:34:32 PM
Post by: pd on June 19, 2015, 09:42:10 PM
Funny thing about tires is that people buy what they WISH they needed but not what they do. Most people would do great with some A/T and a set of link chains but most people buy M/T despite the fact they mostly pound pavement.
MOST people dont drive 50/50 on/ off road so they should buy an A/T and chains. unless your a logger or farmer then that may change. If your a logger then your likely a die hard toyo M 55 fan and i can't say i blame you... LOTs of your fellow loggers agree. IMO if a was a generic hunter that liked to offroad a bit id get the M55... IMO its kind of like the old BFG mud terrain. the best compromise between off road performance and street wear....
I have factory Goodyear Wranglers (OEM) on my F-150, and they truly are garbage. 3 failures in 20k miles. Granted, they are "P" rated, 4-ply tires (have to expect tire splits on sharp rocks, right?). Thus, I, too, need to look for better tires. I absolutely hate to get flat tires in the mountains!
I carry real chains. I was thinking 8-ply A/Ts from Les Schwab. What do you think?
Post by: Special T on June 19, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
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Post by: DJ_Mack on June 19, 2015, 09:50:57 PM
Post by: GoldenOscar on June 26, 2015, 12:11:05 AM
Looks Good!!
Post by: lokidog on June 26, 2015, 12:29:08 AM
Funny thing about tires is that people buy what they WISH they needed but not what they do. Most people would do great with some A/T and a set of link chains but most people buy M/T despite the fact they mostly pound pavement.
MOST people dont drive 50/50 on/ off road so they should buy an A/T and chains. unless your a logger or farmer then that may change. If your a logger then your likely a die hard toyo M 55 fan and i can't say i blame you... LOTs of your fellow loggers agree. IMO if a was a generic hunter that liked to offroad a bit id get the M55... IMO its kind of like the old BFG mud terrain. the best compromise between off road performance and street wear....
I have factory Goodyear Wranglers (OEM) on my F-150, and they truly are garbage. 3 failures in 20k miles. Granted, they are "P" rated, 4-ply tires (have to expect tire splits on sharp rocks, right?). Thus, I, too, need to look for better tires. I absolutely hate to get flat tires in the mountains!
Ha, I bought a GMC Sierra back in 2000, it had Goodyear 4-plys on it as well. I split a tire in my gravel driveway, third one, but at least the other two were on rougher gravel/dirt, at less than 5000 miles.... I'll never buy a Goodyear tire based on this experience. I'm sure there are some good Goodyear models, but based on their business practice of selling these to GMC for a full sized truck, they can take their tires and stick 'em.
Post by: Special T on June 26, 2015, 10:59:41 PM
The wider the tire, the worse they are in any driving conditions, right Special T ?
Not sure I agree with that statement Campmeat. I personally like pizza cutters for the mileage gains but a wider tire does have its benefits of more contact area and an ability to lower tire pressure. The down side to my pizza cutters it they wander bad in the ruts on the hwy we have over here... Im not sure how wide you think is too wide but im guessing more than a 12.5 width? width and traction are determined by your ability to either "float" or sink to the solid ground for traction. Full sized rigs cannot float they are just too heavy. really small rigs like jeeps, Samurai, trackers etc can float and i have seen them do it leaving full sized rigs with lift and pizza cutters plowing snow. For most driving I think skinny is better unless you out "wheeling". My personal favorite that i have run on several rigs is the 33x9.5x15. They are getting pretty hard to find. I think the next best tire is what my brother runs now a 255/85R16 which is a 33" tire offered in a 10ply but there are not very many companies offering it up. BFG is offering it however and Im kind of partial to them.
Not related to pickup trucks but here in the skagit valley there has been a trend that more log truck drivers are using super singles on the drive tires and some even on the trailers. They seem to be running Michelin X ones capped up in more deep tread or running 425's which is about a 16" wide tire. Ive heard guys running them run a low psi about 80lbs or so allowing the tire to flex around the shot rock instead of having an impact break. They are also no getting rock damage between tires... Down side is you cant limp them anywhere. One cool trick to address that Ive seen is putting a air hose attached to a glad hand so at least you can get off the hill, or closer to town depending on how bad the leak is.
Post by: Special T on June 30, 2015, 09:40:04 AM
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Post by: Jonathan_S on June 30, 2015, 09:49:36 AM
:twocents: A 255/85/16 is a good choice for a thin tire and I think they run about $180 for those BFGs M/T. I'm considering those for my next set of tires on the 4Runner. Thin tires are easier to fit to more wheels and allow for more articulation for those of us who don't "mall crawl".
Post by: DJ_Mack on June 30, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
Post by: T-Dozzer on July 04, 2015, 03:03:29 PM
I got them because I loved them on my lifted quad cab Sierra. IMO...the toyo MT is better in full size rigs.
Next time I might move to something aggressive, but a little quieter.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on July 04, 2015, 04:20:40 PM
Thanks, You gotta love them. I love American made products, but something about those Tacoma's.......those tacomas are more american made than any ford or chevy these days...
Post by: thinkingman on July 22, 2015, 07:26:02 AM
"Visual" means nothing but image. :twocents: :sry:THANK YOU!
I honestly can't believe people buy tires based on looks!
I hear that a lot on the Toyota forums.
Tires have one purpose and 'looks' ain't one of them!
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 22, 2015, 07:33:05 AM
"Visual" means nothing but image. :twocents: :sry:THANK YOU!
I honestly can't believe people buy tires based on looks!
I hear that a lot on the Toyota forums.
Tires have one purpose and 'looks' ain't one of them!
Thousands of mall crawlers disagree with you. :yike: people who have 33x14.50 tires on their contractor trucks are buying them for looks and they're spending a pretty penny.
I buy a tire that get's me up steep muddy and snowy roads, the nice thing is they look cool too.
Nitto Mud Grappler and Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac are my favorite tires right now. If you saw the road to my house in winter...they ain't for looks :chuckle:
Post by: ICEMAN on July 22, 2015, 03:23:39 PM
Also, the ten ply has kept me from getting flats. I always got tons of flats on other tires, but not with the MTs....