Post by: KenPCPilot on June 06, 2015, 07:56:46 PM
Post by: Jellymon on June 06, 2015, 08:12:53 PM
Post by: KFhunter on June 06, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
I could be wrong but thats not a slick trick.
I don't know what the heck that is, looks cheap. Don't know of any modern high-end broad head manufacturers using knurled ends like that :dunno:
Allen?
Post by: hogslayer on June 06, 2015, 08:37:32 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on June 06, 2015, 08:53:17 PM
Post by: jrebel on June 06, 2015, 08:56:20 PM
Post by: muleyslayer#1 on June 06, 2015, 09:01:08 PM
Post by: coachcw on June 06, 2015, 09:17:32 PM
Post by: RadSav on June 06, 2015, 09:43:32 PM
Looks like a Allen type of head to me. Radsav what is your two cents?
Not only is that an Allen Skybolt XS, but Sportsman's Warehouse doesn't sell them! Sounds like the OP needs to find new friends that don't take his money for Slick Tricks and deliver a $13.50/pk of discount specials.
That is the worst I have ever seen a Skybolt look even after we've put them through some serious torture. Aluminum is rather tough stuff...hard to believe that is the result of a broadside shot that didn't end up in the ball joint. But, stranger things have happened.
I just hope this isn't a new marketing play by the new Rage organization. Hopefully it is an oversight on the OP's part or just a rogue operative!
Post by: RadSav on June 06, 2015, 09:51:30 PM
I have never had issues with long range flight with fixed heads. If you have enough fletching and proper FOC you should be fine regardless of what head you choose. MLB I know has reach out a few times with fixed heads with great results too. If you can't get a 1" to 1.125" fixed to fly well you probably have bigger issues than broadhead configuration!
Post by: grundy53 on June 06, 2015, 09:52:24 PM
Post by: MLBowhunting on June 06, 2015, 10:11:34 PM
Post by: KenPCPilot on June 07, 2015, 03:13:13 PM
Post by: grundy53 on June 07, 2015, 03:18:55 PM
Anybody have first hand feedback on Rage Hypodermics?Gotta be better than Slick Tricks... :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: MLBowhunting on June 07, 2015, 03:24:19 PM
Post by: RadSav on June 07, 2015, 04:03:05 PM
I was a spotter as another hunter experience a failure. I've also watched and partook in blood trailing in three other cases where it performed just fine. Two of those were deer and two were antelope. The failure I witnessed was on an antelope. So I guess it depends on your interpretation of "First Hand". If first hand means you need to have actually held the bow in your hand and shot the arrow yourself then that's a story for Coach.
The outfitter we used in WI on the whitetail hunt last year told us he was thinking of refusing to allow anyone using Rage broadheads to hunt his property. On the other hand last time I hunted Texas with an outfitter he wished everyone would shoot Rage heads. That seems to be the positions of most outfitters I've worked with...not much middle ground! Seems 49% love them and 49% hate them. Not sure I have experienced any other head where those who guide a lot of hunters every year are so divided.
Post by: MLBowhunting on June 07, 2015, 04:59:11 PM
Post by: RadSav on June 07, 2015, 05:14:02 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,174084.msg2327931.html#msg2327931
The failure I witnessed was a nice buck antelope shot solid in the front shoulder (quartering toward the hunter). The Hypo ferrule broke off on the shaft side of the screw hole. Arrow fell out almost immediately. We watched that buck for the next three days. Usually bedded not far from water. Saw him get up twice in those three days. On the fourth day he got up when some does came into water and he chased them off the ranch. Guess he was feeling better :)
The other three animals were shot well behind the shoulder. All three traveled about the same distance 80-100 yards. Not great, but I've seen worse from two blade broadheads with similar shots.
Post by: MLBowhunting on June 07, 2015, 05:17:01 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 07, 2015, 06:45:50 PM
Post by: RadSav on June 07, 2015, 07:02:19 PM
I am really excited about the new law .. I can not wait to see the results of those using mechanicals this year ..Hopefully it will be positive feed back .. I will still be using fixed blades ... :twocents: :tup:
I doubt we will see much of a difference. Maybe better than usual results the first year, but same ole' same ole' next year as folks start using old dull blades as usual. I just hope most bowhunters will make the smart choice and steer clear of barbed head styles (fixed and/or expandable). Really hard to believe this state decided to lift that rule.
Post by: earlmarne on June 07, 2015, 07:08:20 PM
I wish the blade angle was a little less severe but the new stamped blades seem to hold up pretty dang well (never shot the old ones).The one that ended up in the gravel the blades are useless but intact and the ferrule is still in good shape.I have yet to send a fixed or mech head into the gravel and have the blades be anything but chewed up.I have broke blades off of slick trick mags and grizz trick 2 and shuttle ts on the same shot
I have really been trying to talk myself into having these in my quiver come elk season but may just shoot a lighter arrow with some fixed van dykes or phat heads.
I dont have many kills with my bow to add much substance to any of this but if I do end up running a mech head I will put it on top of a heavy arrow.
Post by: Rock7 on June 12, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
Post by: RadSav on June 12, 2015, 02:44:55 PM
Post by: scoutdog346 on June 12, 2015, 11:13:44 PM
Post by: Rock7 on June 14, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
Here is my last 2 cents on mechanicals versus fixed blade. What kind of hunting are you planning on doing? Spot and Stalk or stand/blind? If you are spot and stalking with mechanicals pay a little attention to the arrow when you have them nocked. The blades have a tendency to deploy (especially on rage) if you bump them on brush or anything else. In my opinion that is just one more thing I don't want to think about when I am closing the final yards on an animal to make a shot.
Post by: RadSav on June 14, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Post by: scoutdog346 on June 14, 2015, 04:56:45 PM
Post by: RadSav on June 14, 2015, 05:03:37 PM
You lose a little in the inefficiency of the mechanical action, but not enough to worry about.
Post by: scoutdog346 on June 14, 2015, 07:28:40 PM
Post by: GameHunter1959 on July 21, 2015, 02:55:17 AM
I am hunting open country with mild sage brush. I shot my buck at 64 yards downhill into a draw. Most the shots that presented themselves were a minimum 45 yards. I suspect I will need to shoot long again this year. I shoot 60 pounds.
Post by: RadSav on July 21, 2015, 05:04:03 AM
This year I want to find 2-3 more heads to experiment with. I bought the Rage Hyper 100s a few days ago. I have never shot an expandable head. Any suggestions?
That would be the one I would try. Next on my list would probably be Grim Reaper. If I had to pick a 3rd expandable it would likely be InnerLoc EXP :dunno: I hate rubber bands!
If you want a fixed blade that flies as good or better than an expandable try our new line of Savora LPS broadheads. Insane how easy they are to get to fly well. Minimum cross wind drift too! Triple Sec. or Vandyke models pretty much identical other than ferrule material.
Post by: tbrady on July 21, 2015, 09:56:53 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 21, 2015, 10:12:35 AM
Post by: RadSav on July 21, 2015, 01:38:00 PM
Post by: GameHunter1959 on July 21, 2015, 01:40:31 PM
I understand the though but I'm much more confident in the rock solid little Savora Delmastros and VanDyke's than I am with the butter-soft Montecs :twocents:
I tried hard to get accustom to using the Montec heads. I would shoot 40 yards with my practice tips, and be in the bulls eye or darn close. I would them switch the tips out to the Montec heads, and I was consistently shooting high and right. I am very inexperienced, so it could have been me. I seemed to shoot better with other brands.
Thanks for all the feedback.. I will buy a few of the other brands mentioned and see what fly's well for me.
Post by: GameHunter1959 on July 21, 2015, 01:43:17 PM
This year I want to find 2-3 more heads to experiment with. I bought the Rage Hyper 100s a few days ago. I have never shot an expandable head. Any suggestions?
That would be the one I would try. Next on my list would probably be Grim Reaper. If I had to pick a 3rd expandable it would likely be InnerLoc EXP :dunno: I hate rubber bands!
If you want a fixed blade that flies as good or better than an expandable try our new line of Savora LPS broadheads. Insane how easy they are to get to fly well. Minimum cross wind drift too! Triple Sec. or Vandyke models pretty much identical other than ferrule material.
Thank you
Post by: coachcw on July 22, 2015, 08:54:50 AM
Post by: LittleJohn on July 22, 2015, 09:14:41 AM
My friend own the only sporting goods store around here and told me he sells 10 pks of fixed blades for every 1 pk of expandables.
The couple guys I know that use expandables like the G5 T3 broad head
I personally wouldn't shoot an elk with any type of expandable.