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Title: wyoming deer draw
Post by: lhrbull on June 13, 2015, 08:33:14 AM
Who's waiting on the draw results for this state 5 points region G here
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 13, 2015, 08:35:36 AM
I'm waiting on antelope tags. Should be a sure thing so I'm not too worried. I heard the results should be out next Friday.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Halo on June 13, 2015, 08:39:20 AM
If I were to guess I would agree with next Friday. I'm in with long odds so not expecting anything. Deer odds are about 1.16% and antelope odds about 1.86% barring a miracle its a point building year.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: chukar hunter on June 14, 2015, 02:38:52 PM
Next Friday would be good. I'm in for Region H and some group lope tags.  Hoping for a sure bet, but with my draw results from both OR and WA, I can't expect anything.

Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: BoomWhop on June 14, 2015, 02:48:53 PM
I put my son in for Antelope and Deer. I put in for Antelope. This trip is his High School graduation present--so I hope he pulls them both. He had 4 points in each and per the members research of Eastman's Hunting Journal we should pull all 3. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Wolfdog2314 on June 14, 2015, 02:54:52 PM
Waiting on a region W tag. Odds are good. Have hunted in years ago in the past and have done well.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 14, 2015, 08:15:57 PM
Waiting on my antelope tag, hopefully we don't have to wait all week though.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Buck_Nasty11 on June 14, 2015, 08:31:49 PM
Put in for a special tag region h this year
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Buck_Nasty11 on June 14, 2015, 08:32:49 PM
Waiting on a region W tag. Odds are good. Have hunted in years ago in the past and have done well.

I drew region w last year, beautiful country out there
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Bigshooter on June 14, 2015, 08:34:22 PM
Waiting on a region W tag. Odds are good. Have hunted in years ago in the past and have done well.

I drew region w last year, beautiful country out there

How did you do in W?
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: gottatree on June 14, 2015, 08:49:04 PM
Struck out in OR and Washington Wyoming is my last chance. Deer should be no problem antelope is what I really want. This will be my sons first antelope hunt. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Bean Counter on June 14, 2015, 09:46:16 PM
I should be guaranteed an antelope buck tag. Pretty sure I won't grab the deer tag though. I'm in an odd place with my points. I need to kill a goat though--yet to put one down and I have a few deer to my name.  :)
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Buck_Nasty11 on June 14, 2015, 09:54:15 PM
Waiting on a region W tag. Odds are good. Have hunted in years ago in the past and have done well.

I drew region w last year, beautiful country out there

How did you do in W?

I killed a decent but on the last evening hunt, just shy of 140.  It was our first year in the area and region w in general.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: actionshooter on June 14, 2015, 10:30:58 PM
Who's waiting on the draw results for this state 5 points region G here
5 points in region G should be good to go. I was there a couple of weeks ago bear hunting and saw several bucks that are going to be awesome!
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: lhrbull on June 15, 2015, 08:04:38 AM
who did you bear hunt with or was it a DIY hunt
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 15, 2015, 08:36:11 AM
I'm in for G and antelope tags.  Fingers are crossed, I've been stung more than once in WY.  There are no "guaranteed" tags based on last year's results.  Heck, you could draw H as a second choice and G with 1 or 2 points in the special just a few years ago.  This year it seems everyone and their brother is applying for G and H based on the magazine hype after four consecutive easy winters.  Wouldn't doubt if those tags all take a full point more than last year to draw. 
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 15, 2015, 08:56:46 AM
I know a guy who applied for G with 6 points. Even with that many points, he's not certain he will draw.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: HUNT on June 15, 2015, 09:05:45 AM
I'm in for G with 5 points.  I'm nervous about drawing as well. 
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: DRobnsn on June 15, 2015, 10:34:48 AM
Awaiting results for Mule deer region W here.
Title: wyoming deer draw
Post by: wackmaster on June 15, 2015, 02:29:23 PM
Points for me this year going to try for an elk tag with max point next year if I fail at that I have 1 under max for lopes good luck to everyone on the draw


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Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: lhrbull on June 15, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
Hunt did you put in the special draw or just the regular with your 5 points
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: HUNT on June 15, 2015, 03:27:42 PM
Hunt did you put in the special draw or just the regular with your 5 points

Regular draw.

Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: jason4429 on June 15, 2015, 03:41:56 PM
I'm waiting for the deer draw,I drew an elk tag so I'm going,but I really love mule deer hunting.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: cougfan79 on June 16, 2015, 06:14:49 AM
Waiting on Region C here, no points but haven't needed any in the past.  Draw results should be Friday or Monday, website says June 20th, but being a Saturday I don't think they will be working.  Wyoming usually is dead on with the date posted
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: jason4429 on June 16, 2015, 12:21:07 PM
They usually are two or three days early
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 16, 2015, 12:22:40 PM
On other forums most people are guessing results will be out Thursday morning.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: elkontherun on June 16, 2015, 09:54:10 PM
Drew g last year with 4 points put in again  this year hoping to draw in the random with no points but not expecting much. But you can't draw if you don't apply. 
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: GUscottie on June 17, 2015, 12:53:14 PM
My guess is Friday. I can't fathom they'll be putting results up on a weekend...My buddy thinks Thursday (he's a WY resident)....I'm hoping for a 2nd choice deer tag; 1st Choice is such a long shot that if I draw, I'm buying lottery tickets for everyone I know, or anyone that asks. I'm also hoping for my buck lope tag and 1 or 2 doe tags.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: tonymoe on June 17, 2015, 12:54:51 PM
I am waiting on region G as well as antelope tags
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Bwana Bob on June 17, 2015, 12:58:55 PM
My guess is Friday. I can't fathom they'll be putting results up on a weekend...My buddy thinks Thursday (he's a WY resident)....I'm hoping for a 2nd choice deer tag; 1st Choice is such a long shot that if I draw, I'm buying lottery tickets for everyone I know, or anyone that asks. I'm also hoping for my buck lope tag and 1 or 2 doe tags.

I'm with you Scottie. Put in on the special draw for buck antelope and 2 doe tags as well. Drew CO deer so I won't be too bummed if I don't draw.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: GUHunter on June 18, 2015, 08:45:52 AM
Getting antsy! Hoping to draw antelope and elk
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: DRobnsn on June 18, 2015, 09:34:29 AM
Just checked no results for me yet. Anyone else try?
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 18, 2015, 09:39:48 AM
Word is that results can't be up today because the WGFD always posts a notice the day before to let people know results will be available the following day. Makes no sense but that's what the experts say.   :dunno:
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: huntnphool on June 18, 2015, 09:51:14 AM
 Looks like their will be plenty of opportunity for Washington hunters to carpool and split fuel costs the Region G this year......lol
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Brushbuster on June 18, 2015, 09:51:56 AM
Draw Results Information and Preference Point Search
Antelope, doe/fawn antelope, deer, doe/fawn deer, resident elk, and resident cow/calf elk available on June 19, 10am MST
 
http://gf.state.wy.us/DrawResults/frmSearch.aspx

Good Luck Everyone!!  :tup:
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: DRobnsn on June 18, 2015, 10:42:25 AM
Draw Results Information and Preference Point Search
Antelope, doe/fawn antelope, deer, doe/fawn deer, resident elk, and resident cow/calf elk available on June 19, 10am MST
 
http://gf.state.wy.us/DrawResults/frmSearch.aspx

Good Luck Everyone!!  :tup:

  :tup:
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 18, 2015, 11:07:03 AM
Tomorrow at 10:00, it's official.

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Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: GUscottie on June 18, 2015, 11:27:17 AM
A couple of people I know are trying to find some backdoor info. Last year you could hit up the State Auditor's Office website and get the info. This year...I've had no luck. If someone gets it, let me know ;) haha...

Here's to second choice deer, 1st choice antelope and some doe tags (maybe both species!) :bfg: :cue: :EAT:
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WildBear on June 18, 2015, 11:28:38 AM
Can't wait! I've heard stats for drawing have been good, but never know... Awaiting some antelope tags. Good luck everyone!
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: jason4429 on June 18, 2015, 12:13:26 PM
Looks like their will be plenty of opportunity for Washington hunters to carpool and split fuel costs the Region G this year......lol
What do you mean?
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: GUscottie on June 18, 2015, 12:27:44 PM
No one really drew good tags here in Wa. My bro in law and the four guys he hunts with drew two cow tags. Nothing else was drawn.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: GotMyTag on June 18, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
How about a G buck from last year to wet your appetite. DIY public land.  We nicknamed him blondie.


And if you want the super quick way to see if you now have 0 points then just hit refresh on your PointHunter app at like 10:01 in the morning.  And it will email you or text you as soon as it can your area if you drew.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: actionshooter on June 18, 2015, 08:55:36 PM
Dandy buck and that's why this area is taking more points every year.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 19, 2015, 08:05:31 AM
Less than one hour to go!
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 19, 2015, 08:33:39 AM
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Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: tonymoe on June 19, 2015, 08:40:11 AM
Man I'm gonna lose service in s bit!!!!
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: HUNT on June 19, 2015, 09:00:55 AM
I drew the regular draw with 5 points.  Region G
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 19, 2015, 09:03:36 AM
Four tags here!  G and three goat tags.  A little surprised on the goat tags, but this will be a really fun trip. 
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: DRobnsn on June 19, 2015, 09:09:00 AM
Unsuccessful  :'( Kinda surprised as we bought the extra point for an area that has a very high draw% rate in the first place. This is the second time not getting drawn in 9 years, first time ever buying a point. 
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Brushbuster on June 19, 2015, 09:11:33 AM
Drew 2nd choice Antelope. Also gained an Antelope point.  :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 19, 2015, 09:14:08 AM
Got my two antelope tags but that was expected.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 19, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
I love that they post the aggregate draw info at the same time.

G took four points in the special to draw, and five in the regular draw.  H took one in the special and two in the regular.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Bwana Bob on June 19, 2015, 09:22:19 AM
Had a 84% chance to draw in the special last year but didn't draw my antelope tags this year. :dunno: Will put more scouting time in for my CO deer hunt. Maybe next year.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: elkaholic123 on June 19, 2015, 09:35:01 AM
We drew unit 67 for antelope  :brew:
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 19, 2015, 09:48:09 AM
Very few leftover antelope tags this year. I was planning on buying a couple more doe tags but there are none left.    :'(

Oh well,  gives us more time to hunt blue grouse, scout for a future elk hunt, and possibly spend some time in Yellowstone.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WildBear on June 19, 2015, 10:09:23 AM
Got our antelope tags. Excited! First time for me.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 19, 2015, 10:13:28 AM
Just found out we were lucky to get our antelope doe tags that I thought were a sure thing. There were more first choice applicants than tags, and my hunting partner and I got 4 of them!
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: HoopsNHorns on June 19, 2015, 10:24:56 AM
Our party of 4 drew Type 1 antelope tags in Unit 66.  My son also lucked out and drew 2 antelope doe tags for the same unit.  Should be some fun shooting.  This is going to be on the heels of 10 days chasing elk in WY with our bows.      :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 19, 2015, 10:36:45 AM
Just found out we were lucky to get our antelope doe tags that I thought were a sure thing. There were more first choice applicants than tags, and my hunting partner and I got 4 of them!

Similar here, got really lucky with the doe tags.  Odds of about 1 in 7.  Just a lot fewer tags and more demand than in years past.  Some of the buck tags have bad points creep too - we drew 89 a few years back with 1 or 2 points, and it took 4 in the special this year. 
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: lhrbull on June 19, 2015, 11:54:26 AM
drew G in the special draw with 5 just didn't want to take a chance on point creep that was all the talk
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: jamesfromseattle on June 19, 2015, 12:37:25 PM
Just found out we were lucky to get our antelope doe tags that I thought were a sure thing. There were more first choice applicants than tags, and my hunting partner and I got 4 of them!

Based on the numbers it looks like you put in for the same unit as we did...myself and my girlfriend, however, went 0 for 4.

There have been plenty of tags in that area for the last few years so I assumed we would have no problem drawing at least one or two tags. We already requested the time off work and put money down on a rental cabin...

My girlfriend was really looking forward to her first hunt (and I probably misled her by saying we'd definitely draw at least 1), so she is going to be extremely disappointed. I'm mostly just bummed for her because how much she wanted to hunt this year.

Not looking good for leftovers, either.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: bobcat on June 19, 2015, 12:46:35 PM
Just found out we were lucky to get our antelope doe tags that I thought were a sure thing. There were more first choice applicants than tags, and my hunting partner and I got 4 of them!

Based on the numbers it looks like you put in for the same unit as we did...myself and my girlfriend, however, went 0 for 4.

There have been plenty of tags in that area for the last few years so I assumed we would have no problem drawing at least one or two tags. We already requested the time off work and put money down on a rental cabin...

My girlfriend was really looking forward to her first hunt (and I probably misled her by saying we'd definitely draw at least 1), so she is going to be extremely disappointed. I'm mostly just bummed for her because how much she wanted to hunt this year.

Not looking good for leftovers, either.

Sorry you didn't get your tags. It was a big surprise how many applicants there were this year for those tags. Twice as many applicants as tags!
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Buck_Nasty11 on June 19, 2015, 12:56:15 PM
Put in for special with a point and no draw for region h :'(
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: jamesfromseattle on June 19, 2015, 12:56:46 PM
No kidding! Wouldn't have been nearly disappointing if knew there was a good chance of not drawing.

At this point I'd be willing to pay pretty much whatever necessary to give the GF a good shot at an animal on private land, but unfortunately she is starting school at the end of September so the units available to us are pretty limited.

Asked fish and game about trespass fee hunts in unit 109 and the other easy-draw units and they pretty much said they don't know of any landowners there that aren't permanently booked.

If anyone has any landowner leads (again, willing to pay) in 109 or somewhere like that, I would really appreciate any help.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Halo on June 19, 2015, 05:44:07 PM
Congrats to those who drew. I knew my odds were long and that my daughter & I would likely not draw and we didn't. I did see a couple nice consolation prizes this morning when I left for work. Two branched antler blacktail bucks in the front field. Looks like we'll be chasing the local critters this year for her first year hunting.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: lhrbull on June 19, 2015, 06:16:25 PM
James I don't know where unit109 is but if you want to hunt deer look at Region B they never used to draw out.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: opdinkslayer on June 20, 2015, 07:28:05 AM
 My 2 boys & nephew drew G tags with 4pts special so we will be taking them up into the most beautiful place I've ever hunted to search for a dream buck. My bro-in-law and I talked about how great it was gonna be when we got to finally bring our boys up here as we waited out a thunderstorm 15 years ago and its finally here! They are all amped about big bucks but for me its about camp on our backs diy in what I would truly call "GOD'S COUNTRY" that makes me excited. Three good bucks would just make this all the more special. This on top of drawing a oil any moose tag has me wondering what the hell I did to deserve this but I will take it! :chuckle:

 To those who drew in Wy this year, congratulations and to those going to reg G for the first time I offer you this basic advice. Enjoy the country and do not go there thinking that you see 100 deer a day and weed thru the 170 class bucks to get to the 200 inchers. Get in the best shape possible because when your body is a day away from taping out, your mind already did 2 days prior. It eats the weak in mind and body for breakfast and spits them out before sun up and be prepared for everything from 70 degree sun to a foot of snow and fog. Having said that, congrats to all and it should be a great horn year with the great spring moisture back there. See ya in "GOD'S COUNTRY" boys. :brew: :brew:
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: gottatree on June 20, 2015, 09:26:06 PM
We drew three region T buck tags. Then we also drew 2 unit 103 antelope bucks and my son drew to antelope doe tags. Should be a great year.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Maverick on June 21, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
So would this be the time to ask what the best units are to apply for over there? I've been building up points. Ill have 4 antelope and 3 deer points. I planned on hunting G because thats where my dad hunted but after their hunt last year I'm not sure thats a tag I want. They never saw a quality buck dead or alive. A game warden explained most guys shoot a 2.5 year old buck and that's what they ended up seeing other hunters with and what my uncle ended up getting. My dad ate the tag. So now I've gotta do some homework and decide if I should change game plans. Antelope I've just been building the points because I've always wanted to hunt them but bo clue where to go.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Bigshooter on June 21, 2015, 08:14:32 AM
So would this be the time to ask what the best units are to apply for over there? I've been building up points. Ill have 4 antelope and 3 deer points. I planned on hunting G because thats where my dad hunted but after their hunt last year I'm not sure thats a tag I want. They never saw a quality buck dead or alive. A game warden explained most guys shoot a 2.5 year old buck and that's what they ended up seeing other hunters with and what my uncle ended up getting. My dad ate the tag. So now I've gotta do some homework and decide if I should change game plans. Antelope I've just been building the points because I've always wanted to hunt them but bo clue where to go.

Stick with G.  There is nothing better in WY than G.  There are older bucks in G.  You just have to look over a lot of smaller ones.  For antelope the units that take a lot of pts to draw usually have more public ground than units that take no pts to draw.  Find a unit in the middle of the state that you can draw and go hunt antelope.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 21, 2015, 08:48:20 AM
So would this be the time to ask what the best units are to apply for over there? I've been building up points. Ill have 4 antelope and 3 deer points. I planned on hunting G because thats where my dad hunted but after their hunt last year I'm not sure thats a tag I want. They never saw a quality buck dead or alive. A game warden explained most guys shoot a 2.5 year old buck and that's what they ended up seeing other hunters with and what my uncle ended up getting. My dad ate the tag. So now I've gotta do some homework and decide if I should change game plans. Antelope I've just been building the points because I've always wanted to hunt them but bo clue where to go.

The deer herds in G and H got crushed in the winter of 2010-11 - mortality figures were like 50-75%.  So the fawns in 2011 and 2012 are making up the bulk of the bucks around now.   In 2014 they would have been 2 1/2 to 3 1/2.   But they've had four easy winters since then, and now those bucks are getting into the 4 1/2 range.  This is a big part of the point creep problem - many guys held off applying the last several years and are now cashing in.  Next year and the year after (etc.) should continue to get better until they have another bad winter. 
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Maverick on June 21, 2015, 09:06:56 AM
Thanks for the. Wintering tip. I didn't know they got hit hard. My dad hunted near Afton. The spot he had hunted in the 90s you use to be able to pull a horse trailer on the road and now you have to rock crawl in. (Dad didn't know that till he got there) luckily hes got a lift and big tires. Everyone elserrode quads and rzrs in and everyone asked how the heck did he get his 05 long bed crew cab f350 in there?! Lol
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Stein on June 22, 2015, 11:30:50 AM
My daughter drew two 115 youth antelope doe tags.  I drew a big zippo in 115 which was kind of surprising as I was hoping it was a sure thing.  Very cool that my daughter drew, excited for the opener.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Bean Counter on June 22, 2015, 02:35:31 PM
So would this be the time to ask what the best units are to apply for over there? I've been building up points. Ill have 4 antelope and 3 deer points. I planned on hunting G because thats where my dad hunted but after their hunt last year I'm not sure thats a tag I want. They never saw a quality buck dead or alive. A game warden explained most guys shoot a 2.5 year old buck and that's what they ended up seeing other hunters with and what my uncle ended up getting. My dad ate the tag. So now I've gotta do some homework and decide if I should change game plans. Antelope I've just been building the points because I've always wanted to hunt them but bo clue where to go.

The deer herds in G and H got crushed in the winter of 2010-11 - mortality figures were like 50-75%.  So the fawns in 2011 and 2012 are making up the bulk of the bucks around now.   In 2014 they would have been 2 1/2 to 3 1/2.   But they've had four easy winters since then, and now those bucks are getting into the 4 1/2 range.  This is a big part of the point creep problem - many guys held off applying the last several years and are now cashing in.  Next year and the year after (etc.) should continue to get better until they have another bad winter.

I saw the 50-70% mortality figure in 2010 but I thought that was just fawn recruitment but not necessarily all the herd altogether. Last year was my first in Wyoming. We spent our share of time in the field and definitely noticed that there was an older age class of bucks missing at least in the area of the Bighorn Mountains.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: chukar hunter on June 22, 2015, 04:32:21 PM
Drew a deer tag but came up empty on Lope tags with 4 PP, very surprised.  Was hoping to double dip.  Not wanting to make the trek just for a deer when I can hit Idaho for two weeks instead.  Anyone have advice on getting out of the deer tag if I can prove hardship or is it a done deal, sunk cost? 
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Halo on June 22, 2015, 04:59:01 PM
I think you cashed in your points & dollars and will be the owner of a deer tag like it or not.
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on June 23, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
So would this be the time to ask what the best units are to apply for over there? I've been building up points. Ill have 4 antelope and 3 deer points. I planned on hunting G because thats where my dad hunted but after their hunt last year I'm not sure thats a tag I want. They never saw a quality buck dead or alive. A game warden explained most guys shoot a 2.5 year old buck and that's what they ended up seeing other hunters with and what my uncle ended up getting. My dad ate the tag. So now I've gotta do some homework and decide if I should change game plans. Antelope I've just been building the points because I've always wanted to hunt them but bo clue where to go.

The deer herds in G and H got crushed in the winter of 2010-11 - mortality figures were like 50-75%.  So the fawns in 2011 and 2012 are making up the bulk of the bucks around now.   In 2014 they would have been 2 1/2 to 3 1/2.   But they've had four easy winters since then, and now those bucks are getting into the 4 1/2 range.  This is a big part of the point creep problem - many guys held off applying the last several years and are now cashing in.  Next year and the year after (etc.) should continue to get better until they have another bad winter.

I saw the 50-70% mortality figure in 2010 but I thought that was just fawn recruitment but not necessarily all the herd altogether. Last year was my first in Wyoming. We spent our share of time in the field and definitely noticed that there was an older age class of bucks missing at least in the area of the Bighorn Mountains.

Here's a snippet I found from the spring of 2011:

According to a source at Wyoming Game and Fish, “It’s looking like the Wyoming Range mule deer herd will experience substantial overwinter mortality this year on all of the big winter ranges from Evanston to Cokeville in the south and from Kemmerer to LaBarge and Daniel in the north. Deep, persistent snows arrived in November and developed into hard crust, which made foraging and movement very difficult for mule deer. These conditions, coupled with extended periods of below-zero temperatures and poor shrub conditions on winter ranges, resulted in a rapid depletion of mule deer energy reserves by midwinter. Conditions have not relented much, with cooler temperatures and lingering snow slowing the annual green-up of spring grasses and forbs. Similar conditions occurred on winter ranges associated with the Uinta mule deer herd, especially the large winter complex near Leroy. Fawns will typically make up the majority of the winter losses, but in a year like this year, we will see losses to the older age classes of the population as well. These are the type of winters that impact all age classes of deer in the population.”
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: Bean Counter on June 24, 2015, 08:23:41 PM
  :tup: Thanks
Title: Re: wyoming deer draw
Post by: WAcoueshunter on July 01, 2015, 03:51:01 PM
Further to the 2011 winterkill and point creep discussion, Eastman's just posted some application data on this.  Since 2011, they have decreased the Region G non resident tag quota from 800 to 600, and applications in 2015 were up about 25% from 2011.  Take the two together, and the G tag goes from 3 points in the regular draw and 2 in the special, to 5 points in the regular and 4 in the special. 

http://blog.eastmans.com/what-really-happened-in-the-wyoming-big-game-draw/

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