Post by: SkookumHntr on June 13, 2015, 10:56:21 AM
Post by: bowhunterforever on June 13, 2015, 03:30:48 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 13, 2015, 04:37:03 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 13, 2015, 04:48:14 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on June 13, 2015, 05:00:25 PM
Post by: huntnnw on June 16, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 17, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
Post by: whacker1 on June 17, 2015, 09:14:36 AM
the 325 grain fly a little better, but both have performed as advertised and look like the previous comment in the avatar.
My next trial will be the knight bloodlines.
Neil
Post by: Z_rock01 on June 18, 2015, 04:44:09 PM
Post by: jeffitz on June 18, 2015, 06:33:59 PM
Post by: Forks on June 18, 2015, 06:58:00 PM
I shoot them every year, I switched this year to the 290gr T-EZ those MZ were tough to push down my barrelThis has been my experience.
Post by: usmc74 on June 20, 2015, 04:32:29 AM
110 gr T7 3F = a little over 1900 FPS.
They load OK in my BH, but VERY tight in my Rem 700ML
Post by: SkookumHntr on July 26, 2015, 06:24:15 PM
Post by: PyroBlack on July 26, 2015, 08:56:28 PM
Post by: huntnnw on July 28, 2015, 03:20:42 PM
Post by: Z_rock01 on July 31, 2015, 12:28:11 PM
So the weather can affect which sabot works best? Is it because the barrel shrinks a bit with cold temps ? Just curious,im a novice with muzzleloaders
I dont know.. :dunno: I have found that my Knight likes the smaller sabet in the colder months and the high pressure sabet during the warmer months.
Post by: SkookumHntr on August 01, 2015, 08:17:38 PM
Post by: NWKrenz on September 17, 2015, 10:14:19 AM
Post by: Chukarhead on September 17, 2015, 04:03:57 PM
Post by: bowhunterforever on September 17, 2015, 05:29:59 PM
290 is the biggest T-EZ that Barnes makes. It kills 'em just fine. :tup::yeah:
Post by: NWKrenz on September 18, 2015, 08:43:53 AM
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/211841/barnes-expander-muzzleloading-bullets-50-caliber-sabot-with-45-caliber-300-grain-hollow-point-flat-base-lead-free-box-of-24
Any tips appreciated, I hunt both elk and deer.
Post by: Chukarhead on September 18, 2015, 10:03:40 AM
Would you guys suggest those over the 300 grain in the link below? I have been shooting the Hornady Great plains since i started muzzle loading but I have a hard time shooting a consistent group.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/211841/barnes-expander-muzzleloading-bullets-50-caliber-sabot-with-45-caliber-300-grain-hollow-point-flat-base-lead-free-box-of-24
Any tips appreciated, I hunt both elk and deer.
I doubt that the terminal performance is going to be much different between the expander, TMZ or TEZ bullets... Every one I've recovered from animals (elk only... deer are pass-through) have petaled out perfectly, and blown enormous, gruesome wound channels. It's going to be a matter of which one loads and shoots best in your particular barrel. Make sure they're shooting straight before hunting. Good luck!
Post by: scottcrb on September 25, 2015, 08:06:31 AM
Post by: NWKrenz on September 25, 2015, 08:47:54 AM
I have a Knight Bighorn that I bought before the season last year, probably has around 15-20 shots through it.
The bullet made it about half way down and I thought i was going to snap the ramrod. I can only imagine how tough it would be after I shot.
Thinking about getting the crushed ribbed sabots or maybe just the 290 grn TEZ. Running out of time before the 3rd.
Post by: bankwalker on September 25, 2015, 01:07:34 PM
Post by: Soady on September 25, 2015, 06:52:33 PM
I just got the 300 grn MZ's last night and I definitely see what everyone is talking about. I tried to put one down the barrel last night just to try it and see if it was really that hard.
I have a Knight Bighorn that I bought before the season last year, probably has around 15-20 shots through it.
The bullet made it about half way down and I thought i was going to snap the ramrod. I can only imagine how tough it would be after I shot.
Thinking about getting the crushed ribbed sabots or maybe just the 290 grn TEZ. Running out of time before the 3rd.
I know Lacey store has them. If you find your coming up short go to the Tulalip store they have them so says their website.
http://www.cabelas.com/product/harvester-crush-rib-50-caliber-sabots-per-50/740770.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3DHarvester%252Bcrush%252Brib%252Bsabot%26x%3D10%26y%3D6%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%252BProducts&Ntt=Harvester+crush+rib+sabot (http://www.cabelas.com/product/harvester-crush-rib-50-caliber-sabots-per-50/740770.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3DHarvester%252Bcrush%252Brib%252Bsabot%26x%3D10%26y%3D6%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%252BProducts&Ntt=Harvester+crush+rib+sabot)
Post by: NWKrenz on September 28, 2015, 08:42:40 AM
I have the Triple 7 FFFG right now in a Knight Bighorn.
Post by: Chukarhead on September 28, 2015, 09:46:26 AM
For those of you with experience with these bullets how much powder are you using?
I have the Triple 7 FFFG right now in a Knight Bighorn.
I finally got serious about load testing this summer. I've settled on 125gr of T7 FFFG with the 290 T-EZ.
I wanted to make sure that I still had enough energy at 200 yards to reliably expand petals on the bullets. Unlike lead projectiles, they need speed to be fully effective. If I recall correctly, Barnes says something like 1,300 fps at impact to reliably expand. In past years, we've loaded 100-130 grains, and had great performance out to 105 yards on elk, but I'm hunting pretty open stuff this year and anticipate longer likely shots.
Others have experienced expanding groups with loads over about 110 gr, so be sure to shoot a few groups to make sure you're not adversely affecting accuracy in favor of speed.
Post by: NWKrenz on September 28, 2015, 10:06:02 AM
I was thinking of trying 110, I was shooting 100 grain this past weekend but i think my rear sight got knocked off from last hunting season.
Post by: Chukarhead on September 28, 2015, 08:43:27 PM
That seems like quite a bit but hey if it works with your gun that's great. Were you able to shoot pretty consistent groups with 125?
I'm no marksman, so group size isn't really a great measure for me. My primary concern is dead elk, and this year I'm thinking that it might be a longer shot than the previous 5 years. Off an improvised rest at 100 yards I got two consecutive 3" 3-shot groups, and called it a day when the second group settled 4" high after a sight adjustment.
Post by: NWKrenz on September 28, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
Post by: HntnFsh on September 28, 2015, 08:47:34 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 28, 2015, 08:52:03 PM
Post by: NWKrenz on September 28, 2015, 08:52:48 PM
Do you shoot the 300 grain MZ or 290 TEZ? Also what gun?
Thank you
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 28, 2015, 08:56:32 PM
I have a brand new optima sitting up stairs and 5 bullet types to try out in it when we get some rain around here :bash:
Good luck on your hunt :IBCOOL:
Post by: NWKrenz on September 28, 2015, 09:04:28 PM
Thank you
Post by: HntnFsh on September 28, 2015, 09:12:58 PM
Very nice! I've definitely heard that the TEZ load wayeasier than the TMZ's. I bought different sabots for the MZ's, they weren't the crushed ribbed one's but they were some Knight Ez glides and they make a huge difference.
Thank you
Were they the orange ones?
Post by: NWKrenz on September 29, 2015, 07:59:29 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on September 29, 2015, 12:16:20 PM
Yes they were, have you used them before?
No, But I would like to try them. Am going to check a couple places and see if they have them today. I tried some Harvester crush ribs. They seemed a little on the loose side. Havent shot with them yet to see how they perform though.
Post by: sled on September 29, 2015, 01:13:19 PM
I just got the 300 grn MZ's last night and I definitely see what everyone is talking about. I tried to put one down the barrel last night just to try it and see if it was really that hard.i shot some in my big horn with no problems.
I have a Knight Bighorn that I bought before the season last year, probably has around 15-20 shots through it.
The bullet made it about half way down and I thought i was going to snap the ramrod. I can only imagine how tough it would be after I shot.
Thinking about getting the crushed ribbed sabots or maybe just the 290 grn TEZ. Running out of time before the 3rd.
Post by: NWKrenz on September 29, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
Yes they were, have you used them before?
No, But I would like to try them. Am going to check a couple places and see if they have them today. I tried some Harvester crush ribs. They seemed a little on the loose side. Havent shot with them yet to see how they perform though.
I think you will like how the Knight sabots feel. They are nice and tight but not too tight, hope you are able to find some.
Post by: n_mathews13 on October 12, 2015, 05:15:51 AM