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Title: Wenaha west archery!!!!!
Post by: coldsteel3d on June 13, 2015, 07:46:46 PM
Well without going into too much detail, I haven't hunted much or put in for tags for the last 3 or 4 years but I decided this would be the year for me to get back into the swing of things and start hunting again. Well I drew 1 of the 3 Wenaha West archery tags!!! I am super pumped and was hoping some of you guys that I know have killed big bulls in this unit in the past could post up some pics of them here for some added motivation for me to get my butt in shape!!!  :IBCOOL:
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Post by: tonymoe on June 14, 2015, 07:04:26 AM
I'll see you over there!
Good luck
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Post by: SnakeEyes on June 14, 2015, 09:14:19 AM
Very cool! Its a fun hunt.
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 14, 2015, 09:35:51 AM
Hope you're in shape. Have you ever been into the Wenaha? If you can physically handle it, it's the hunt of a lifetime.


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Post by: Magnum_Willys on June 14, 2015, 09:39:52 AM
I'm spending the $700 for drop camp when I draw that unit...... Hunt hard starting from deep....
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Post by: .257mag on June 14, 2015, 09:53:19 AM
So you have the tag I wanted!!  14 years and I still haven't drawn so make the best of it!  Congratulations and give it hell. 
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Post by: elkchaser54 on June 14, 2015, 11:48:35 AM
Here is a couple of pics from a trail cam I had set up last season right before archery season in west Weneha!
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 14, 2015, 12:43:12 PM
Yes I have been over there but I have not hunted it, my buddy drew a Dayton tag a few years back so I have spent a little time in the area but I'm not a stranger to that type of hunt, about 5 years ago I spent a month in a Nevada wildernesss area calling for a buddy of mine who drew the tag and that country was every bit as big as the Wenaha is. I am very excited for this hunt!!!!!
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Post by: Branden on June 14, 2015, 04:30:14 PM
Send me a pm if you would like I have hunted it before
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Post by: trophyhunt on June 14, 2015, 04:33:13 PM
I'm spending the $700 for drop camp when I draw that unit...... Hunt hard starting from deep....
i think a drop camp is at the least a no brainier!  Give yourself the best odds at killing a quality bull!
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Post by: Branden on June 14, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
I think the west is different then the east. The east is more remote so a drop camp makes sense. The west is pretty easy to day hunt. Also I believe outfitting is restricted to just the eastern edge of the unit if I remember correctly.
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Post by: trophyhunt on June 14, 2015, 04:41:48 PM
I think the west is different then the east. The east is more remote so a drop camp makes sense. The west is pretty easy to day hunt. Also I believe outfitting is restricted to just the eastern edge of the unit if I remember correctly.
you are correct, 100%.  But I bet getting deep in that east side of the west wenaha would be epic.  I have seen big Bulls in the easier walking areas by the watershed boundary, so it's not like you are in a bad area whatever you decide.  I just love the idea of being dropped off in the backcountry away from people and having them pack out my meat.
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 14, 2015, 07:15:51 PM
So guys I've been trying to order maps all day and I am having a tough time finding the right ones. Maybe I am just being picky but I really don't wanna order a dozen maps to hopefully end up with one or two that I might use. Which maps have you guys that have hunted the area found most useful and where did you get them? Any help would be appreciated, and thank you again!
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Post by: SkookumHntr on June 14, 2015, 07:31:30 PM
Sawtooth ridge, buck ridge always have monsters roaming them
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Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 14, 2015, 10:23:21 PM
I have not hunted it, but mytopo.com allows you to design the map you want, prints it on water resistant paper, folded, for about $14.
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Post by: nwhunter on June 14, 2015, 10:32:18 PM
Get the maps from the forest service. They are good ones and cover the whole area. Cant remember if you get them online or call Pomeroy its been a few years since I updated mine. Lots more options in the west than east for sure as far as day hunts. I think that gives you more options to bounce around if you aren't finding what you are looking for move up the road a few miles and hike in another trail system. Don't get me wrong I love the drop camp hunt but if I were in the west and didn't have  a specific bull targeted I would stay mobile.
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Post by: huntnnw on June 14, 2015, 10:38:58 PM
I have not hunted it, but mytopo.com allows you to design the map you want, prints it on water resistant paper, folded, for about $14.

Ive got some of those, nice maps!
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Post by: huntnnw on June 14, 2015, 10:40:33 PM
Also there is great topo maps you can download for free off a app called Avenza PDF maps
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 14, 2015, 10:45:49 PM
I just ordered a couple of the forest service maps so I'll see how those turn out. They had two that cover the area, a Pomeroy Ranger district and a Walla Walla Ranger district. Wasn't sure but I ordered the Pomeroy and I also ordered the Wenaha-Tucannon wilderness map.
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 14, 2015, 11:18:18 PM
So you guys that have hunted it what's a realistic goal for this hunt? I would love to shoot a 380"+ bull but I was kinda thinking maybe a 360"+ goal would be a little more realistic, what do you guys think?
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Post by: buglebuster on June 15, 2015, 12:38:05 AM
You say 360 but when a 340 comes in at 30yds screaming I'm guessing he gets an arrow. Most guys get that close to anything around 330 and swear they were over 350 lol
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Post by: huntnnw on June 15, 2015, 01:00:02 AM
 :yeah: unless you have taken multiple bulls over 330" when a 320" bull walks in screaming at 20 yards most cannot hold off :chuckle:
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Post by: RadSav on June 15, 2015, 02:45:17 AM
340 seems awfully big when you are at full draw!  Even when hunting from a blind they look darn big.  I'd say that 75% or more of the 320 - 330 bulls shot the hunter thought they would go over 350 when they pulled the trigger.  I know my biggest bull I saw nothing after seeing the seventh point :yike:  Knew I was going to shoot so I just concentrated for the chest.  Once on the ground I saw the weak thirds and broken twos.  Still happy as a school girl with a new IPhone, but even with seven it didn't make 350.

Here is a cool video on judging elk.  I got most of them wrong!  https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7260859CCE2FB904

#1 and #11 I got WAY, WAY wrong! :DOH:
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 15, 2015, 10:15:06 AM
Those are some great videos, I am pretty on for 340" and up, I was within an inch or two but the ones I've always had a problem with, and it holds true with these videos, are the 300"-330" bulls. I'll say 325" and it'll go 302", I'll say 300" and he'll go 330". I guess it doesn't really matter to me what he scores, I just want a bull that makes me freak out when he comes into bow range!
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Post by: RadSav on June 15, 2015, 11:07:27 AM
I guess it doesn't really matter to me what he scores, I just want a bull that makes me freak out when he comes into bow range!

That's the one - FLOYIIING!!!!!   :tup:
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Post by: elkchaser54 on June 15, 2015, 02:32:18 PM
Those two photos I posted earlier are just satellite bulls in the west weneha. Neither of them were with cows.  6x6 that measure 300-330 are every where in there. Bigger than that will be a lot of glassing and boot tread to find but trust me they are in there and attainable.
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Post by: toyman2 on June 15, 2015, 03:09:21 PM
I have helped a few guys that were so focused on getting that big one that they ate their tag.
Realistic standards, have them and you will get a nice bull, it is good to dream and hunt hard for the dream bull just don't be so picky you miss out on a nice bull.
Make sure you give yourself plenty of time to hunt, also plan for a rest day within your hunting time.
Plan for the worst, glass a lot, put some miles under those boots. I have hunted the West a lot.
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Post by: Duckhunter14 on June 15, 2015, 05:35:54 PM
Cool videos, thanks for sharing. That's great practice.
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 15, 2015, 10:38:12 PM
I plan on being there for the entire season and close to a week before hand if need be. If I get done early that's fine but I'll be ready for the whole season.
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Post by: Elkpiss on June 16, 2015, 09:20:28 AM
I plan on being there for the entire season and close to a week before hand if need be. If I get done early that's fine but I'll be ready for the whole season.

  There are plenty of big bulls,  Sure Set your goal but just have an awesome hunt.. Dude 0nce you start setting expectations your going to psych yourself out..  Ive seen grown men have tears of joy and tears of frustration in the Wenha..   A. Be in Shape..  B.  Be Patient..  C.. Be Patient..  and you will get a nice bull.. Be prepared for the High's and Low's..      ITs hard to hold out..  330 looks big when its close, really big..
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 16, 2015, 03:24:40 PM
So guys it looks to me like there are no cow tags to compete with on this hunt and they don't let spike hunters in for the first week of the season so the only people the lucky 3 of us will be sharing the unit with is the deer hunters, is this the case? I know I deer hunted this area one year about 6 years ago and only saw maybe 2 other guys deer hunting, and they were both riding 4 wheelers on the road around the border of the unit. Can't imagine a bunch of deer hunters in there.
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Post by: toyman2 on June 16, 2015, 04:33:30 PM
I don't believe how many people that are in the unit will be the issue. IMO it is how many people will be driving around up there. The traffic is horrible, and with the road ringing the top of the unit I believe it affects the animals.
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Post by: 2MANY on June 17, 2015, 07:23:49 AM
I'm sure there are many good hunters here that know the Wenaha, but
having spent an hour or two in the elk woods with NWHunter in a couple different states I can honestly say I would listen with your ears wide open to him.
He knows the Wenaha and will give you straight up advice........................Period.

As far as what bull to shoot you must make sure you are happy and proud of your choice.
Some guys enjoy the hunt so much they would rather hunt till the last day unless they kill a monster. Other guys want to kill a bull no matter what. Only you can decide this one as you must live with your choices and everyone's critique of your choices.
Either way only take clean, ethical, kill shots.
No regrets.

If you become frustrated DO NOT TAKE IT OUT ON A LESSER BULL!!!
Cuss, yell, spin in circles, fall down, and shoot an arrow into a tree but do not shoot a dink in the bottom of mother natures hell hole.

My 2cents.
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 17, 2015, 08:44:45 PM
Does wdfw still send you a permit or any paperwork in the mail if you draw a permit?
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Post by: tonymoe on June 17, 2015, 08:57:56 PM
Yes, they do. It's got to be on your person
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Post by: mtman on June 17, 2015, 09:08:44 PM
It is always good to set goals for your hunt. I scouted a bunch when I drew a tag a new what I wanted to hold out for.I went with the one that got me excited at that point it didn't matter what it scored.
If the summer is really dry over there doesn't that have a big effect on how big they will get? I have heard when they have droughts the last few points turn out pretty weak?
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 18, 2015, 03:03:36 PM
I got my maps and it looks like I chose the right ones!
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Post by: AntlerHound on June 18, 2015, 05:00:01 PM
Here's a few photos from the unit... Last year.. Before season... Good luck!!! :tup:
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 18, 2015, 05:27:04 PM
Here's a few photos from the unit... Last year.. Before season... Good luck!!! :tup:

I don't think any of those go over 350".

I'd still probably shoot that second one though.

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Post by: jstone on June 18, 2015, 07:51:35 PM
I would shoot the first or the second bulls.
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 18, 2015, 09:26:57 PM
That second one is a stud for sure! A little weak up top but not too bad, and only on the one side. I think I'd have to shoot him!
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Post by: RadSav on June 18, 2015, 11:56:57 PM
I'd still probably shoot that second one though.

Yep he's a freak.  Best take him out of the gene pool just to be safe!
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Post by: autodink13 on June 19, 2015, 05:39:52 AM
You'd have to be silly to pass on the second one id guess he's over 350. That first bull should get an arrow too imo
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 19, 2015, 11:01:17 AM

You'd have to be silly to pass on the second one id guess he's over 350. That first bull should get an arrow too imo

BTW, which brother are you? Ha!


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Post by: autodink13 on June 19, 2015, 02:59:06 PM


You'd have to be silly to pass on the second one id guess he's over 350. That first bull should get an arrow too imo

BTW, which brother are you? Ha!


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Brent
Did the winkface mean you were joking in your first post? U don't think that bull would go over 350 gross?
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Post by: CoryTDF on June 19, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
I got my maps and it looks like I chose the right ones!

did you look at Mytopo.com? I bought maps from there when I had my Dayton tag 2 years ago. They were very good maps.
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Post by: 3dvapor on June 19, 2015, 03:48:52 PM
Nice bulls but not even close to 350.  He has alot of potential though.  Those blue bulls are like no other elk in the nation.  I usually can always tell when i see a video of a giant or a picture.  Always heavier than normal with lots of trash.
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 19, 2015, 05:02:47 PM



You'd have to be silly to pass on the second one id guess he's over 350. That first bull should get an arrow too imo

BTW, which brother are you? Ha!


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Brent
Did the winkface mean you were joking in your first post? U don't think that bull would go over 350 gross?

To be honest I don't have enough experience to tell you one way or another.

But I would shoot him without regret.

That first bull would walk day 1.


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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 19, 2015, 09:17:10 PM

That first bull and third bull look to be the same one don't they?

No.


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Post by: Shawn Ryan on June 19, 2015, 10:48:22 PM
Every time I count, I get real close to 350 on the second bull. The third bull's thirds are great. If his top half is similar when done, he will be amazing.
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Post by: AntlerHound on June 20, 2015, 07:33:44 AM
I'm pretty sure the second bull is around 360...comparing it to a few antlers I've found in the past.... :chuckle:
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Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on June 20, 2015, 09:24:50 AM

I'm pretty sure the second bull is around 360...comparing it to a few antlers I've found in the past.... :chuckle:

Maybe we can ground count him in a few months to be sure :)


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Post by: jackelope on June 20, 2015, 01:05:13 PM
Bull #2 is 350 all day.  Beauty. He's a shooter.  Most folks, me included, can't tell the difference between a 340 and a 360 bull. Especially when you're at full draw and they bugle and blow the hat off your head.
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 20, 2015, 01:46:55 PM
I don't know for sure butI put that second in the 340's, pushing 350" but I just don't think he'd break the mark.
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Post by: Ccortez on June 20, 2015, 01:55:25 PM
I don't know for sure butI put that second in the 340's, pushing 350" but I just don't think he'd break the mark.

that's what I thought but then saw the date and if that's the true date he should be around the 350 mark when he is done growing
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Post by: Chesapeake on June 20, 2015, 02:54:15 PM
I like all 3. The clean 6, the trashy giant, and the trez loco. I'd take either with a bow.
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 21, 2015, 03:04:11 AM
I don't know for sure butI put that second in the 340's, pushing 350" but I just don't think he'd break the mark.

that's what I thought but then saw the date and if that's the true date he should be around the 350 mark when he is done growing

That is exactly what I was thinking.
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 21, 2015, 05:11:55 PM
Bull #2 is 350 all day.  Beauty. He's a shooter.  Most folks, me included, can't tell the difference between a 340 and a 360 bull. Especially when you're at full draw and they bugle and blow the hat off your head.

I will say this, the difference between a 340" and a 360" bull is only a little more than 1 1/2" on every point. That isn't very much when you have a rut crazed beast blowing snot and screaming in your face at 20 yards! 
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Post by: Mxracer532 on June 24, 2015, 09:45:15 PM
I will be in the East Wenaha for my bull. CANT WAIT!!!!
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Post by: coldsteel3d on June 30, 2015, 10:38:25 PM
Has anyone heard if there are any fires over in the area?
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Post by: elkchaser54 on June 30, 2015, 11:36:18 PM
Oh almost forgot, you could get lucky and see one of these bad boys roaming the woods in there.  MOOOOOSE!!!!! just a baby one here tho
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Post by: tonymoe on July 01, 2015, 06:53:58 AM
Has anyone heard if there are any fires over in the area?

I was there over the weekend, lightning storms Saturday night caused 4 different fire on the 64 road toward table rock. 1 was a lot bigger then the others. We about to call it in, but noticed the road was closed at the 46/64 junction and then the fire fighters were driving in.
I couldn't find any news on it, so was thinking they weren't big enough to report? Or the crew got it taking care of by Monday

"Fingers crossed"
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Post by: coldsteel3d on July 01, 2015, 08:58:08 AM
Oh almost forgot, you could get lucky and see one of these bad boys roaming the woods in there.  MOOOOOSE!!!!! just a baby one here tho

Yeah I actually saw a moose over there in the wenaha about 6 years ago, just a cow but holy crap she was huge. By far taller than the jeep grand cherokee I was in! She came out of the woods at a trot as we were driving down the road and she paced us about 6 ft from my window for 20-30 seconds. It was pretty cool!
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Post by: coldsteel3d on July 01, 2015, 09:00:08 AM
Has anyone heard if there are any fires over in the area?

I was there over the weekend, lightning storms Saturday night caused 4 different fire on the 64 road toward table rock. 1 was a lot bigger then the others. We about to call it in, but noticed the road was closed at the 46/64 junction and then the fire fighters were driving in.
I couldn't find any news on it, so was thinking they weren't big enough to report? Or the crew got it taking care of by Monday

"Fingers crossed"

I heard rumor of four fires over there, didn't know how big and I was really hoping it wasn't true.
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Post by: Daytonite on July 01, 2015, 09:31:02 AM
Total acreage was ~80 acres burned.  They are contained and in mop up phase as of this morning from what I heard.
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Post by: toyman2 on July 01, 2015, 03:08:09 PM
I called them in and gave the GPS to them. They weren't that big really. The 4th was a spot fire from the larger of the 3 started from lightning. We stayed up there till about 11, a forest service firefighter showed up about 10pm.
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Post by: 2MANY on July 02, 2015, 08:20:30 AM
Oh my.
Dat gonna grow some big horn.
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