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Title: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: Muleyman27 on June 21, 2015, 08:06:37 AM
so I would like to use lighted knocks. I have victory rip gamer arrows .204. it comes with a bhoning A-knock. how do I find the right illuminated knock. there are all different ones to select do I just choose the one that matches the .204 or do I need to find the inside diameter of the shaft?
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: go4itlab on June 21, 2015, 03:53:31 PM
Should be able to go to any of the web sights of the brand you wish to use (nocktunal, lumenok, etc....) and look at a sizing chart. Mine were based on brand of arrow, nock style and inside dia. A local bowshop could probably give you some info too.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: Russ McDonald on June 21, 2015, 06:09:41 PM
I use nocturnal and they have what arrows they fit on the package and on their website.  same with luminocks. 

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Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: turkeyfeather on June 21, 2015, 06:30:36 PM
I use the nocturnals as well. I am happy with them.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: go4itlab on June 22, 2015, 12:12:01 AM
don't mean to thread jack, I'm shooting green, what colors are you guys shooting.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: Russ McDonald on June 22, 2015, 05:13:16 AM
Red.  To me seems to be best color to see at distance.  I have tried blue and green.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: turkeyfeather on June 22, 2015, 08:47:42 AM
I shoot the green ones.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: RadSav on June 24, 2015, 05:57:23 AM
I think 204 is the I.D. of that shaft, isn't it?

If you look at the component list it shows the "A" nock.  "A" nock is a Bohning product named for Easton's "A"xis shaft.  The Easton nock for the Axis is an "X" nock.  "X" nock has an O.D. of .205".  So by that reasoning I'd think the Nocturnal size "X" would be the right size.  But, the easy route would be just to call Rage or Victory and ask them!
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: Muleyman27 on June 24, 2015, 09:24:36 PM
I think 204 is the I.D. of that shaft, isn't it?

If you look at the component list it shows the "A" nock.  "A" nock is a Bohning product named for Easton's "A"xis shaft.  The Easton nock for the Axis is an "X" nock.  "X" nock has an O.D. of .205".  So by that reasoning I'd think the Nocturnal size "X" would be the right size.  But, the easy route would be just to call Rage or Victory and ask them!

Yes .204 is the I.D. I called victory and they answered my question before I was done asking!
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: Smoke on June 25, 2015, 10:32:39 AM
I use nock outs... easy turn off, and they can be put in practice mode for target shooting and saving the batteries.. they come with adapters to fit any arrow so size is not a problem

and for the highjacked question... I use green.. seem to be a bit brighter and my eyes pick them up better in flight
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: CP on June 25, 2015, 12:42:24 PM
How do you get the original nock out?
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: lamrith on June 25, 2015, 03:00:22 PM
Just FYI you will need to probably add some weight up front to maintain your arrow FOC as the illuminated nocks are typically ~10grn heavier than the normal plastic ones.

I have luminocks in red gut shoot GT arrows, not sure if they are avail for your's..
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: CP on July 08, 2015, 10:06:11 AM
I tried the CLEAN SHOT "NOCK OUT" yesterday - It broke on the first shot.  The plastic nock came unglued and popped off -

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Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: whacker1 on July 08, 2015, 10:26:45 AM
I use nock outs... easy turn off, and they can be put in practice mode for target shooting and saving the batteries.. they come with adapters to fit any arrow so size is not a problem

and for the highjacked question... I use green.. seem to be a bit brighter and my eyes pick them up better in flight

Nock out is the brand I was most impressed with, but i didn't make the change, because they aren't legal in Montana yet.
I liked practice mode
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: whacker1 on July 08, 2015, 10:27:24 AM
I tried the CLEAN SHOT "NOCK OUT" yesterday - It broke on the first shot.  The plastic nock came unglued and popped off -

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That isn't good.  I have not had that problem.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: CP on July 08, 2015, 10:31:08 AM
I tried the CLEAN SHOT "NOCK OUT" yesterday - It broke on the first shot.  The plastic nock came unglued and popped off -

POS

That isn't good.  I have not had that problem.

Maybe a got a lemon, it’s too bad.  It has some nice features and is very bright but if it does not hold together it isn’t of much use.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: whacker1 on July 08, 2015, 10:32:37 AM
I tried the CLEAN SHOT "NOCK OUT" yesterday - It broke on the first shot.  The plastic nock came unglued and popped off -

POS

That isn't good.  I have not had that problem.

How many have you tested? 1/2 dozen or more?  just curious.....yes reliability is important for confidence.  I only tested a couple in the clean shot shop.

Maybe a got a lemon, it’s too bad.  It has some nice features and is very bright but if it does not hold together it isn’t of much use.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: CP on July 08, 2015, 10:36:26 AM
I only bought one - just to test it out.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: Muleyman27 on July 08, 2015, 10:56:06 AM
Just FYI you will need to probably add some weight up front to maintain your arrow FOC as the illuminated nocks are typically ~10grn heavier than the normal plastic ones.

I have luminocks in red gut shoot GT arrows, not sure if they are avail for your's..

Yea I ended up getting nockturnal. Red. My foc with reg knock is 13.9% and with lighted knock is 12.2% so I'm good either way. Both with 100gr. Savoras!
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: lamrith on July 08, 2015, 11:01:16 AM
Just FYI you will need to probably add some weight up front to maintain your arrow FOC as the illuminated nocks are typically ~10grn heavier than the normal plastic ones.

I have luminocks in red gut shoot GT arrows, not sure if they are avail for your's..

Yea I ended up getting nockturnal. Red. My foc with reg knock is 13.9% and with lighted knock is 12.2% so I'm good either way. Both with 100gr. Savoras!
Awesome, what arrow length and overall weight?  I would love to be 12.2% FOC with nockturnals and 100G tips.
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: Muleyman27 on July 08, 2015, 01:34:35 PM
Just FYI you will need to probably add some weight up front to maintain your arrow FOC as the illuminated nocks are typically ~10grn heavier than the normal plastic ones.

I have luminocks in red gut shoot GT arrows, not sure if they are avail for your's..

Yea I ended up getting nockturnal. Red. My foc with reg knock is 13.9% and with lighted knock is 12.2% so I'm good either way. Both with 100gr. Savoras!
Awesome, what arrow length and overall weight?  I would love to be 12.2% FOC with nockturnals and 100G tips.

Arrow length is 31" from throat of knock to end of arrow excluding insert. Total arrow weight of 433 gr. and total arrow length with Insert and broadhead is 33.25"
Title: Re: how do i choose the right lighted knock
Post by: Taco280AI on August 13, 2015, 07:48:45 PM
I just tried out some reds, what a difference! Did a 3d course and using both arrows to compare with, I'm always going to use lit nocks (where legal) for hunting. Made such a huge difference when shooting around trees with all the different shadows, unlit were lost halfway to target a few times, lit were clear through impact. No guessing where your arrow went enroute or on target.
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