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Equipment & Gear => All Other Gear => Topic started by: ghosthunter on June 21, 2015, 04:45:29 PM
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Well after weeks of research and alot of video watching. Reading alot of threads on here I placed a order with Four Dog for a Three Dog stove.
After consulting several folks and even my wife. I decided not to order the water jacket, but opted for the extra side tray instead. We put up a cook shack for our group camps so I do not need to cook on this stove.
But at 64 I am seeing the time when life has to be easier in respects to set up. I recenly bought a 10X12 canvas wall tent for that reason. The wood stove is for drying gear and that future quality deer hunt some where in my future I have 13 points for.
I know that future hunt will be in November and a good chance of snow on the ground. My buddies say well get a Motel room. But thats not my way. When I get drawn I plan to have a traditional as possible experience.
Nights in the wall tent,wood stove, the whole works. I will cook on the stove on that hunt.
So I made my own rain fly out of a white tarp and cut out and beefed up the hole for the stove pipe. With a flap to cover it when the stove is not in use, just like the tent has.
I am still in the search for some kind of light weight hearth for under the stove to protect my floor. I was thinking one of those BQ matts would work fine but I cant find one that dosent reek. Most the stores now are selling the roll up splatter matts now, not made for under a wood stove.
One guy on here used a oil drip pan with dirt in it, Not a bad idea but dont want to mess with the dirt. So the search is on still for that part of the set up. Someone suggested Hardy Board. looking at that.
The stove should ship in 7-10 days.
Hope the weather turns so I can use it this fall.
Video of Four Dog Company stoves.
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You are going to be a roasted ghost in a 10x12 tent with that stove. Be sure the damper works well! Nice looking stove.
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Yeah maybe. I am kind of warm blooded. Back in the day when hunting seasons were later we suffered through some real cold nights with a lot less gear.
But like the idea of having a stove I can damper down and keep goin all night.
Spent a night in a 16 x 20 wall tent late muzzy once. Those guys had a air tight stove in there. Slept with both flaps on door open and snowing outside. Crazy.
But better a little more stove than a little less.
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Made in the USA, nice choice. I really like the screen over the front dampers on the door. Wish my stove had that to keep embers from popping through. I have to put a piece of steel down under the front legs to keep the floor from getting burned. :tup:
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Last year for late buck up north we were running 5° in the A.M. you'll be glad you bought the stove. I love mine. Wall tent w/ wood stove is the only way to go it adds to the experience IMHO. :tup:
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Same stove i am saving up for..also for my 10x12...Good choice! :tup:
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Made in the USA, nice choice. I really like the screen over the front dampers on the door. Wish my stove had that to keep embers from popping through. I have to put a piece of steel down under the front legs to keep the floor from getting burned. :tup:
I am still in the search as to floor protection. Guy on another thread bought a roll up hearth. Been looking for something like bq Matt. Have not made up my mind yet.
http://www.snowtrekkertents.com/wintergear.html
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Ordered stove on Sunday.
Said it would be here on 30 th.
Got a email today that will be dropped at my work Friday by closing.
Good shipping service on a 69 pound package I think. :tup:
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A friend of mine has a four dog T I stove .Their stoves are the most air tight and well built I've ever seen.You wont regret buying it
Tim
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Welding blanket for floor protection.
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Welding blanket for floor protection.
ummm
Not a bad idea. I will look into that.
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It's here.
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Licking my wounds after work un packing my stove.
Ummm
How much rukas willI cause in Mount Vernon if I crank this baby up to cure the paint?
Dreaming of some quiet time in the tent. :tup:
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Set up 7 minutes.
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Ghost I would recommend at least 2 "break in burns" I only did one and it still have off an odor inside the the tent. After the second I didn't notice much of a smell. Perhaps my first wasn't long/hot enough. Just a thought. :tup:
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Watched the youtube video. I'm sold. Just placed an order.
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Ghost I would recommend at least 2 "break in burns" I only did one and it still have off an odor inside the the tent. After the second I didn't notice much of a smell. Perhaps my first wasn't long/hot enough. Just a thought. :tup:
Heck you dont need to convince me to play with hunting camping stuff in the off season. Two burns it is.
When my wife asks me why am playing with the stove in 90 degrees ,I will show her your post. :IBCOOL:
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Set up 7 minutes.
:tup: cant wait till i order mine now! Looks good!
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Another feature I liked. Just a little detail. The nesting stove pipes are engraved with the number of their order. Nice touch. :tup:
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Made in the USA, nice choice. I really like the screen over the front dampers on the door. Wish my stove had that to keep embers from popping through. I have to put a piece of steel down under the front legs to keep the floor from getting burned. :tup:
I am still in the search as to floor protection. Guy on another thread bought a roll up hearth. Been looking for something like bq Matt. Have not made up my mind yet.
http://www.snowtrekkertents.com/wintergear.html
Good looking stove Ghost that thing is sweet! As far as options for a floor protector a roll up option would be nice. But I just use a piece of diamond plate my ol man had laying around from a different project. It slides under the rest of my stuff for easy storage in the truck and has worked well. And who doesn't like diamond plate?! Here's a pic from Montana last year. Let us know how the stove works this fall.
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Nice
That would work.
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Going to do my break in burn starting Friday after work. Checked out the restrictions with city and county and got a green light.
Going to put it in the tent tonight first to figure out my floor plan and see how it looks.
Than pull it out for the break in burns. Going to keep I going all weekend to make sure its all ready to go this fall.
My buddy ordered a Four Dog for his same size tent.
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Dry run tonight.
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What is it you ended up using for your roll up stove hearth? Setup looks sweet.
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Well the best thing I found in my area was a BQ Mat at Lowes . Which dose t roll up but lays flat in the bed of my truck.
It is fire and heat resistant and made o be used under all common BQ.
It smelled a little when I got it ,but left it out side and the smell went away.
My buddy bought the roll up kind with his stove. But says he is switching to what I have.
I might buy one more.
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Just got mine the other day. Four dog with table and water tank. He sent me an extra set of 90 degree and one extra straight piece. I called and he said consider it a gift and not to mail back. I took that time to thank him for the craftsmanship and effort applied to his product. He reciprocated. Great company Great stoves!! :tup:
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Well the best thing I found in my area was a BQ Mat at Lowes . Which dose t roll up but lays flat in the bed of my truck.
It is fire and heat resistant and made o be used under all common BQ.
It smelled a little when I got it ,but left it out side and the smell went away.
My buddy bought the roll up kind with his stove. But says he is switching to what I have.
I might buy one more.
Awesome, thanks. I'll prob check out lowes and see what they have.
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Just got mine the other day. Four dog with table and water tank. He sent me an extra set of 90 degree and one extra straight piece. I called and he said consider it a gift and not to mail back. I took that time to thank him for the craftsmanship and effort applied to his product. He reciprocated. Great company Great stoves!! :tup:
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My buddy just got his four dog yesterday.
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Great choice, you will love it.
For the burn in, don't do it in the tent as you will be burning stuff off the galvanized pipe you don't want to breathe. Get it ripping hot until the pipe turns color about half way up. I fed mine constantly for about 6-8 hours. Once it gets going, there won't be much smoke at all but the thing will be cranking out heat like you can't believe.
The entire black part of the stove should turn a different color except a tiny part by each leg.
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This topic convinced me to get a four dog for my tent.can't wait for new tent and stove
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Houston
We have lite off.
Clear smoke.
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Color change in progress.
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First section of pipe damper. Color changed. Most of sides.
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Your looking good ! :tup: Those 40" cots take up some room ..I picked up 2 before we left but man they were great to sleep on !! I think I need a bigger one eventually :chuckle: :tup:
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Your looking good ! :tup: Those 40" cots take up some room ..I picked up 2 before we left but man they were great to sleep on !! I think I need a bigger one eventually :chuckle: :tup:
Year I love mine.
Two in my new tent about all I got room for.
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Well just over a hour into the burn.
Both sides have changed color. And main box top. Wings have not changed yet.
Front and back about half way.
The damper Sleeve has changed and about 1/4 of the first full section of pipe.
There is a 5 mph breeze today.
Smoke is almost clear. And coming out with power.
Damper full open
Air. In take full open.
Can feel heat about 15 ft away.
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There is a smell.
No sparks. I think due to the I terror baffle.
This thing is cranking some heat. This will warm my 10x12 on start up.
You guys who bought a four dog better go buy a bigger tent.
Unless you are like one guy in our camp who sleeps Raw in a nylon bag. :yike:
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Note
Going to need something more under stove if I use over tent floor.
BQ mat is to hot to hold my hand on top and bottom.
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Finally ordered my three dog stove! Now the waiting game begins...
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You won't wait long. Had mine in five days.
Color has changed about half way up the first full section. Slower now.
About five hours in to it now.
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This is the most awesome write up on a wood stove! Except its over 100° degs outside here!!!!! :chuckle:
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I am not confident that I will get the last two sections to change color.
Which tell me the pipe must not get that hot where it passes through the tent.
Still burn Ya, but bother the stove boot. I doubt it.
The heat is radiating off the stove. I am in the shade about 75-80 out.
I can feel the heat from the stve 20 ft away.
No way I would run it this hot in the tent. It would turn me into a raisin.
Tonight I am going to fill it with presto logs and damper it down see it it's going in am.
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Five half hours
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How is the smell after that long of burn?
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How is the smell after that long of burn?
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Well it's out side with a 5 mph wind all day.
But I could smell it the first three hours now nothing.
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How is the smell after that long of burn?
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Well it's out side with a 5 mph wind all day.
But I could smell it the first three hours now nothing.
Nice...wish there was a little breeze here...only 107 right now!
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Now I have learned something I had not thought of.
After 8 hours of burning the stove is filling up with ash.
I can see a bigger stove might let you push ash to the side more.
This is not a problem to me because I don't ever think I will burn this much this hot while I am in the tent.
It is 87 here now 2 ft from stove box it is 112.
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Just bought one of those thermometers for my tent...well the camo one lol ill take 87 any day! 107 and a cold brew is still hot...darn desert
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I have thought of ash buildup before...figured midday clean out would be best if necessary
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At 6 pm Decided the paint would not change on the wings so I took them off and laid them on top of stove.
There is about 4 inches of ash in the stove all red hot. I threw 3 pesto logs in to see what that would do.
The hottest part of the stove is through the middle .
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13 hrs into it. All the pipe changed color except the very top one which ok since it is outside the tent. Filled up dampened it down and cut the air by half for the night.
See what's left in the am.
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Dropped hot embers on mat. No effect.
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Looks like a nice fire!
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Got up this am around 8.
Stove was warm to touch.
Raked the coals back. Open the air and damper.
Could have thrown a log in and got it to burn.
All in all happy with this stove. Think it will work just fine in tent.
Today clean stove up. And store away till rain comes.
My buddy will be burning a four dog once the fire restriction lift in Anacortes.
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Thanks for the thread and great info, I am seriously thinking about ordering one. My nedw wall tent came with a pellet feeding Riley stove, but Im not to fond of the riveted and light weight part of the Riley. Rather have a heavy robust stove....
Question for ya did the top get glowing red? Ive had a cylinder stove in the past warp on the top after getting really hot, was never flat again after that.
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Thanks for the thread and great info, I am seriously thinking about ordering one. My nedw wall tent came with a pellet feeding Riley stove, but Im not to fond of the riveted and light weight part of the Riley. Rather have a heavy robust stove....
Question for ya did the top get glowing red? Ive had a cylinder stove in the past warp on the top after getting really hot, was never flat again after that.
The top was red hot last night as well as places on the sides.
Took the finish off on the top.
As you can see still level across the top.
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While puting the stove away today I picked up the mat and discovered a good burn hole though it.
Now that ember fell out while stoking and I in my over confidence let it lay where it fell.
Good to know the mat provides some floor protection. But something more will be needed.
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The mat and metal tray that I got and showed you would not have had that happen. Would have protected your tent floor if that would have happened in the tent, where with your mat you would have a hole. But, I also feel in a camping situation you/anyone would be picking up coals that have fallen asap and would not burn the hole in any mat, including yours.
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The mat and metal tray that I got and showed you would not have had that happen. Would have protected your tent floor if that would have happened in the tent, where with your mat you would have a hole. But, I also feel in a camping situation you/anyone would be picking up coals that have fallen asap and would not burn the hole in any may, including yours.
Your right. But I may try your suggestion as additional protection.
Looking for light and easy transport.
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Also while taking pipe apart I discovered it had almost welded together.
Which surprise me.
I have a take down stove for our cook shack with 6 inch pipe and it comes apart easy.
I had to work hard on this five inch pipe. But I had made sure to push it down to the rim.
The whole pipe came off the stove easy enough but the section differnt story.
Not a bad thing.
I doubt the section would ever come apart in the wind.
One screw at the stove should do the trick.
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I have the same issue. Out of the stove is cake, the pieces apart from each other take a little work. I use a leather glove and tap the top of the piece I am trying to get off, back and forth side to side, it eventually breaks free and comes apart relatively quickly. Now the angle pieces, if you are going to use them pretty much stay in whatever position they are in during the burn. I can't get mine to break free and try different angles, luckily they are set where I need them for my wall mount stove jack.
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:yeah:
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Thanks for the picture and level check Ghosthunter, Im sold, you should be rep lol...
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Thanks for the info....just picked up a 12x14 montana canvas tent...looking for a stove and it appears I have found the one I want...just which one? That three dog looks like more than enough heat for my tent
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He has a couple good videos on line which go through all his stoves. Might help.
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Yes check out his videos. I ordered a 12x18 and it looks like the four dog is the right size for mine and yours also
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Yes check out his videos. I ordered a 12x18 and it looks like the four dog is the right size for mine and yours also
Video link on first post this thread.
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Anyone use a creosote login. Their wood stove?
Or other products like that?
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Picked this up today to keep things tidy around the stove and empty ashes.
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Thanks for the thread and great info, I am seriously thinking about ordering one. My nedw wall tent came with a pellet feeding Riley stove, but Im not to fond of the riveted and light weight part of the Riley. Rather have a heavy robust stove....
Question for ya did the top get glowing red? Ive had a cylinder stove in the past warp on the top after getting really hot, was never flat again after that.
I wouldn't worry one bit about that, those things are built like a tank. Craftsmanship is really excellent and I think you could drop it off a bridge and not hurt it.
I use plenty of screws on the pipe just for safety's sake as they are cheap and only take a second to put together.
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Picked this up at Lowes ,travels in the stove
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I have a 12x14 wall tent, what size stove do I need? what size is the pipe? thanks, mike w
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I have a 12x14 wall tent, what size stove do I need? what size is the pipe? thanks, mike w
Four dog
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Ready and waiting for the first burn!
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:tup: Nice stove
but if it were me I wouldn't have my first burn inside the garage LOL JK :brew:
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Ready and waiting for the first burn!
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What's that sicker on the stove pipe????
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Ready and waiting for the first burn!
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What's that sicker on the stove pipe????
Its one of those magnet thermometers
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looking good :tup:
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Now my buddy is arguing with me about this stove in my tent and not an outside stove lol...he is set in his ways....told him to sleep in his 1965 alladin if he wants...love the trailer but love my new tent
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I cant wait to have mine burning in my tent. Fighting the urge to take the tent out again. Waiting for the first. Maybe a combo bear, grouse and scouting trip. If we still have access.
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Ya hopefully you do..ill take the tent muzzie elk but not the stove...too dry...but late deer its gonna keep me warm!
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I burned my four dog the other day. Only problem I had was a price of welding wire was left in the water tank. I didn't see it and over 24 hrs the water rusted the peice of welding wire and rusted the water tank a tiny bit too... Might be able to grind it out but. Other than that it went great.
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Excellent :tup:
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Well I am in love with my three dog.
Used for modern deer and the first night I had it 92 in the tent. My partner was going to go outside and sleep next to the tent. But I figured out the damper , air setings and kept it a nice 59 degrees the rest of the trip. In fact I only lit it three times in 10 days. It wass still going the rest of the time.
Very nice. I will never go back.
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Im in the market for a stove and after reading your post I'm sold. I've got a 12x20 do you think the three dog would be enough or should I step up to the four? Thanks
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Everyone says go big as you can . I am a warm blooded soul so I can imagine needing anything bigger.
But your tent is twice as big and the price difference isn't that much.
So I would go with the four dog in your case.
I also suggest
Forget the water heater, every one I know either doesn't use them or says its a pain.
I would get the extra side shelf I tead ,which is what I did. You can heat water in anything.
Get the damper.
Forget the spark arrestor.
Let's us know.
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Ya, I was kinda thinking bigger. Thanks for the tips, probably saved me $95 on the water heater. Think I'm gonna have to put one to the test on the late archery hunt later next month. :tup:
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Ya, I was kinda thinking bigger. Thanks for the tips, probably saved me $95 on the water heater. Think I'm gonna have to put one to the test on the late archery hunt later next month. :tup:
Well did you get your stove ? And how did it work?