Post by: tbrady on June 28, 2015, 12:37:09 PM
thanks
tim
Post by: romaknows on June 28, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
Post by: elk247 on June 28, 2015, 01:02:29 PM
I wouldn't call it a gimmick or say decoys are the only way to go ,but another deadly tool in the tool box when used correctly. Get a decoy that you can move quickly from setup to setup. There are tons of different decoys do your homework so you'll be happy with it.
Post by: Netminder01 on June 28, 2015, 01:09:16 PM
Post by: seth30 on June 28, 2015, 01:12:29 PM
Post by: Netminder01 on June 28, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
After calling guy after guy using a cow elk call in a bull only area, I would not use a decoy for fear of being shot. that's just my two cents, however if you have access to private land I would use them in a heart beat.
I'm using mine for archery if I can't get close enough to them. Always cautious for sure, but I'm less concerned than if I was using one during muzzie or modern.
Post by: MLBowhunting on June 28, 2015, 02:58:45 PM
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Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 29, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
http://www.poisonarrowgear.com/
The second is also a great tool in my elk kit but is deployed a bit more as the hunt dictates (I sometimes use the cow behind decoy slip and sometimes the camo slip). Plus, it's a great walking stick!
http://elkmtngear.com/
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 29, 2015, 08:40:02 AM
I own and use two decoys. The first will "always" be on my bow, they work and work very well.
http://www.poisonarrowgear.com/
The second is also a great tool in my elk kit but is deployed a bit more as the hunt dictates (I sometimes use the cow behind decoy slip and sometimes the camo slip). Plus, it's a great walking stick!
http://elkmtngear.com/
I bought one of the slips without the umbrella. I use 6 miniature bungies to drape it over bushes and it works great. I also use a Montana Elk decoy but am seriously thinking about the poison arrow decoy. How does it affect the release noise? Torque? Does it change the impact point?
Post by: Big6bull on June 29, 2015, 09:43:50 AM
Post by: Netminder01 on June 29, 2015, 09:56:38 AM
The clip on cow to my bow is interesting, and I see the potential benefit but the height of the brush would have to be conducive otherwise it will appear like a floating head with two camo legs behind it. Again, would be interested in any consumer successes for those willing to share.
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 29, 2015, 10:10:23 AM
The umbrella seems like one more thing to worry about in the woods but would be interested in others who have tried it.
The clip on cow to my bow is interesting, and I see the potential benefit but the height of the brush would have to be conducive otherwise it will appear like a floating head with two camo legs behind it. Again, would be interested in any consumer successes for those willing to share.
That's why I just use the slip and attach it to bushes or between two saplings. The digital imagery is exceptional.
Post by: northwesthunter84 on June 29, 2015, 10:15:27 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 29, 2015, 10:25:28 AM
I own and use two decoys. The first will "always" be on my bow, they work and work very well.
http://www.poisonarrowgear.com/
The second is also a great tool in my elk kit but is deployed a bit more as the hunt dictates (I sometimes use the cow behind decoy slip and sometimes the camo slip). Plus, it's a great walking stick!
http://elkmtngear.com/
I just talked to my local archery shop about the poison arrow decoy and he said he'd looked at it but was concerned about bow stability in anything but the slightest wind. Can you address that concern, please?
Post by: buglebrush on June 29, 2015, 12:09:27 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on June 29, 2015, 12:15:44 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 29, 2015, 12:16:16 PM
I think they're a game changer for sure. I deployed mine a handfull of times last September and literally had cows/calfs feeding right to me! They knew I was there and would periodically lift their heads and stare right at me and each time, I'd sway that sweet cow face back and forth slightly and they'd go back to feeding. Closest one little bunch came my way was less than 20 yards in a pretty open spot. I was calling them to me and really ticking off the little herd bull who remained on the other side of a patch of alder. Unfortunately, my buddy couldn't quite get a shooting lane on that guy. Fun times!
Post by: poisonarrow on June 29, 2015, 01:07:44 PM
You can also dedicate an arrow and put a broadhead on one end and a field point on the other. Then you have another option. Pop it out of your quiver and stick it in the ground.
This decoy is mounted to an arrow. It comes out as easily as removing an arrow. You do not have to only use it on your bow.
The huge benefit is the fact that it is ready at all times. While walking through the woods do not have it deployed. Use it like you do an arrow. When you would nock an arrow is when you would deploy the decoy. If you bust an elk you can deploy it in a second. It is not in your pack or on your back, it is ready.
There is no noise while shooting and it does not affect your shot.
I give a hundred percent satisfaction guaranty. If you are not completely satisfied, send it back for a complete refund.
Post by: poisonarrow on June 29, 2015, 01:12:28 PM
Post by: buglebrush on June 29, 2015, 01:21:06 PM
If you are in a wind you can pop it out of your quiver and hold it in your hand or tie it on a bush. It does not have to be used only on your bow.
You can also dedicate an arrow and put a broadhead on one end and a field point on the other. Then you have another option. Pop it out of your quiver and stick it in the ground.
This decoy is mounted to an arrow. It comes out as easily as removing an arrow. You do not have to only use it on your bow.
The huge benefit is the fact that it is ready at all times. While walking through the woods do not have it deployed. Use it like you do an arrow. When you would nock an arrow is when you would deploy the decoy. If you bust an elk you can deploy it in a second. It is not in your pack or on your back, it is ready.
There is no noise while shooting and it does not affect your shot.
I give a hundred percent satisfaction guaranty. If you are not completely satisfied, send it back for a complete refund.
I am definitely intrigued. Wish I could see one in person. Would be handier for the shooter than my current system.
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 29, 2015, 01:21:17 PM
slim 9300 sent me a video of walking up on a bull across an open meadow. He got within 25 yds before the bull took off. He was not trying to kill the bull, just trying out the decoy. Maybe he will give his thoughts on the decoy.
Welcome to the site as a sponsor, Poisonarrow. I just ordered one of your decoys. :tup:
Post by: tbrady on June 29, 2015, 05:08:42 PM
Post by: coachcw on June 29, 2015, 05:37:33 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 29, 2015, 08:17:15 PM
They work good but I'd be Leary about ussing them in crowded areas.
If "anybody" is shooting at a cow face, they need more than a stern reprimand :rolleyes:
Post by: huntnnw on June 29, 2015, 09:22:22 PM
Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 09:44:34 AM
I own and use two decoys. The first will "always" be on my bow, they work and work very well.
http://www.poisonarrowgear.com/
The second is also a great tool in my elk kit but is deployed a bit more as the hunt dictates (I sometimes use the cow behind decoy slip and sometimes the camo slip). Plus, it's a great walking stick!
http://elkmtngear.com/
I just talked to my local archery shop about the poison arrow decoy and he said he'd looked at it but was concerned about bow stability in anything but the slightest wind. Can you address that concern, please?
I used the Poison Arrow cow decoy all last season and I hunted with the decoy for 4 weeks in both WA and MT. I also played around with the decoy for months before the season. The decoy flat out works and is the only decoy I will ever use. (And I have owned most of the options out there) All other types of decoys have been a hassle that simply aren't worth it. They never end out coming out because there isn't enough time. This decoy is nothing like the others and deploys is literally 2 seconds. Plus, it's shields your draw and distracts your quarry!
In light wind it's not noticeable. I heavy wind you simply don't deploy the decoy. If you are hunting in the timber there is rarely enough wind to affect the decoy. I will never hunt without the decoy on my bow. I could have killed a bunch of raghorns and a handful of six points last year with the help of the decoy holding the elk's attention for significantly longer than normal. I attributed this increase in time as being directly related to the decoy. I ended up killing an 8x7 on the second to last day of the hunt.
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Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 09:48:42 AM
I received one of the Poison Arrow decoys and I'm not sold on it. Seems like a big sail hanging off my quiver when deployed. I've "heard" of hunters walking up to bulls within bow range in the open with it deployed, but does anybody here actually have feedback using one?
See my post at the end of the thread. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 09:55:10 AM
slim 9300 sent me a video of walking up on a bull across an open meadow. He got within 25 yds before the bull took off. He was not trying to kill the bull, just trying out the decoy. Maybe he will give his thoughts on the decoy.
Here is the video in its raw form. I wish I could edit it but you get the idea. Sorry about the focus issues and problems keeping the same orientation.
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This is the bull during the video. I took pics as I was walking toward him. I had a tag in my pocket and I could have killed this bull easily. He was about 30 yards at the closest. He was not tame, just confused. We called him in and I decided he wasn't big enough. Thus, I deployed the decoy, got up and attempted to get as close as I could in the fog. The calling and the decoy clearly helped to confuse him and keep in mind that I kept the decoy between him and I. I ran him back the direction he came simply because there was a herd of elk to my left. They were originally what I was after and I didn't want him to blow them out.
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Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 09:59:33 AM
They work good but I'd be Leary about ussing them in crowded areas.
You only deploy the Poison Arrow decoy when you need it. There is no cow face on the rear. This would never be my concern bow hunting.
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Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 10:03:25 AM
Depends where you hunt..in NE WA I bought one and it has sat in my basement for 15 years.. its to thick for them to ever see it and when they do see it they are in bow range
Imagine having an extra 5-10 seconds (many times more in my experience) to shoot an elk that sees you and is spooked. That's the primary reason I love having the decoy on my bow.
I hunt places on the Westside that I have no doubt are much thicker than what you see on the NE. When you don't need the decoy, you don't notice it being there. When you need it, it's ready in a heartbeat regardless of how thick. It's all about timing when you deploy it.
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Post by: Big6bull on June 30, 2015, 10:18:34 AM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 30, 2015, 10:20:42 AM
That bull wasn't big enough? :yike:
That bull was a squeaker compared to the one he arrowed last year :chuckle:
Post by: xXLojackXx on June 30, 2015, 10:25:46 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 30, 2015, 10:26:59 AM
Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
That bull wasn't big enough? :yike:
The bull I killed was much bigger. ;)
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Post by: Tbar on June 30, 2015, 10:34:23 AM
I do believe that the decoy works. For what it's worth I was the biggest skeptic, questioned everything about the poison arrow decoy, and then ate crow on multiple occasions.
Post by: Big6bull on June 30, 2015, 10:40:19 AM
Slim can I come with you and shoot your satellites? :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 11:05:29 AM
Slim, does that bull have double crowns and a split g4? :dunno:
I do believe that the decoy works. For what it's worth I was the biggest skeptic, questioned everything about the poison arrow decoy, and then ate crow on multiple occasions.
I believe it does have double crowns! Pretty neat bull! ;)
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Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
What do you guys think about the size of the head on that decoy?it seems so large to me, if it were smaller would it play with his depth perception on how close you really are.?
Slim can I come with you and shoot your satellites? :dunno: :chuckle:
Hahahaha!
The size of the head does not seem to affect the elk in any way other than holding/drawing their attention. If you think about it (just like you implied), it would just give the elk the illusion that the cow is simply closer than it seems. I think it could fool a person for a second or two, and elk are much dumber (at least that's my impression).
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Post by: Big6bull on June 30, 2015, 11:32:49 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 30, 2015, 11:33:24 AM
Have and discounts for us poison? :hello:
Yes, retroactive???? :hello:
Post by: snarkybull on June 30, 2015, 12:36:57 PM
Post by: tbrady on June 30, 2015, 12:59:47 PM
I'm convinced. I will buy one right now if somebody can dig up a coupon code for us. :hello:
Ditto! And um, since I started the thread originally... I had no idea it would generate this much discussion. Thanks again guys.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 30, 2015, 01:07:26 PM
Post by: Big6bull on June 30, 2015, 01:25:55 PM
Post by: TommyH on June 30, 2015, 01:30:06 PM
Post by: poisonarrow on June 30, 2015, 02:09:09 PM
By the way the head is life size.
Post by: snarkybull on June 30, 2015, 02:14:31 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 30, 2015, 02:35:46 PM
Aw, shucks why not, 10% off through the 5th of July. Put july4th in the coupon box.
By the way the head is life size.
Nice of you to do, even though I missed out! :cryriver:
Post by: Big6bull on June 30, 2015, 02:43:10 PM
Post by: slim9300 on June 30, 2015, 03:35:22 PM
Aw, shucks why not, 10% off through the 5th of July. Put july4th in the coupon box.
By the way the head is life size.
Awesome James!
I have killed many cows with my bow, I guess it's just hard to get an idea of the proportions without the rest of the animal. This cow probably had the largest head, and of course body, of any that I have ever seen. I wonder how she compares? Lol :D
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Post by: Blsum on June 30, 2015, 04:49:24 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 30, 2015, 05:05:38 PM
Post by: Blsum on June 30, 2015, 05:34:50 PM
Post by: Netminder01 on June 30, 2015, 05:36:05 PM
I'm convinced. I will buy one right now if somebody can dig up a coupon code for us. :hello:
Ditto! And um, since I started the thread originally... I had no idea it would generate this much discussion. Thanks again guys.
Top 5 thread starters get 25% off... come on, who's with me! :IBCOOL:
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 30, 2015, 05:52:31 PM
I was drawn for the archery skok quality buck tag. I know those bucks have seen elk so im thinking it would work on them. Figured I would try it out on some mule deer this year as well.
You may be on to something. I betcha that cow face will hold their attention just fine. I put a spot/stalk on a nice Blacktail buck during my WA elk hunt last year and never even thought about deploying the PAG cow face. I like your thinking sir.
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on June 30, 2015, 05:53:26 PM
Aw, shucks why not, 10% off through the 5th of July. Put july4th in the coupon box.
By the way the head is life size.
Awesome James!
I have killed many cows with my bow, I guess it's just hard to get an idea of the proportions without the rest of the animal. This cow probably had the largest head, and of course body, of any that I have ever seen. I wonder how she compares? Lol :D
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Good gawd man, that's not a cow...... that's a stegasaurus :o
Post by: TommyH on June 30, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
Post by: Blsum on June 30, 2015, 06:08:59 PM
Post by: poisonarrow on June 30, 2015, 06:44:49 PM
I finally got up and started towards them to see how close I could get. They took off. I could have easily shot any of the three several times.
Post by: Band on June 30, 2015, 07:23:37 PM
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Post by: Elknut1 on July 01, 2015, 05:46:34 AM
ElkNut1
Post by: slim9300 on July 01, 2015, 07:38:02 AM
I've never been much of a decoy guy because hate packing the things, that is until I came across the Poison Gear Decoy, it's lightweight & you don't even know its on your bow. Definitely consider one of them.
ElkNut1
Good to see you Paul! Thank you for introducing me to James and his decoy. :)
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Post by: lemondog on July 01, 2015, 09:34:05 PM
Post by: poisonarrow on July 03, 2015, 04:55:44 AM
It is for any species and it runs until the 30th of Jan. It does have to include a Poison Arrow Gear decoy.
Post by: TommyH on July 03, 2015, 08:17:13 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 03, 2015, 08:32:47 AM
Post by: Band on July 03, 2015, 08:43:24 AM
Incidentally, I had a slight issue with my order and the response from the owner was immediate. I'm very happy not only with the decoy I got, but with the customer service. I will be recommending Poison Arrow to my hunting friends. :tup:My order has shipped but I don't see carrier or tracking information I can follow. How long did yours take to arrive, Pman?
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 03, 2015, 09:05:30 AM
Post by: Dhoey07 on July 03, 2015, 09:49:52 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on July 03, 2015, 09:51:12 AM
Incidentally, I had a slight issue with my order and the response from the owner was immediate. I'm very happy not only with the decoy I got, but with the customer service. I will be recommending Poison Arrow to my hunting friends. :tup:My order has shipped but I don't see carrier or tracking information I can follow. How long did yours take to arrive, Pman?
On the email with the subject line "Your order has shipped", there should be a USPS tracking number.
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