Post by: Sabotloader on July 07, 2015, 11:34:56 AM
I was able to get to the farm this morning and the mission was to shoot the new Lehigh 40x215 CF bullet. If you read the previous post you know that I mentioned that I had shoot a couple of 215 yesterday while shooting the new 40x185's. Those two shots indicated that there might be some hope for shooting this new bullet from a slower twist rifle.
This morning was a little warmer than yesterday day but I really wanted to do this activity. So headed out to farm to get setup. At the farm I placed the target near the same spot as I had yesterday - I forgot the range finder so I could not get the exact distance. When I paced back to the shooting bench it was 123 paces - so I believe I am very close to 100 yards.
Also a thought to consider, I was shooting a 110 grains of T7 for this shoot. I normally shoot 120 grains while hunting but since these bullets should not shoot from the 1-30 I did drop the charge hoping to induce the tumble if it were going to happen. Another factor that might play into this is that I am shooting at about 2600 ft. of elevation in high 70* temperature.
I ended up shooting to groups and a OOP's. The OOP's was my own doing trying to move the front Caldwell rest to the right with my left hand while the right hand trigger finger was on the trippger - OOP's.
The first group was shot with my normal MMP Tan sabot the second group of 3 was shot using a Harvester Light Blue Sabots.
Here is the target... Even with this target - Nothing has really been proved about shooting this bullet shooting from a slow twist 45 cal. rifle.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FTargets%2FTarget_1.jpg&hash=fe6e9f79ae4c196ab8ef985490db6ac46ec18383) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Targets/Target_1.jpg.html)
I really did want to set the target out to longer range but walking through the Garbanzo Field sounded like I was killing 100's of big beetles and I was even trying to be careful. At some point I will get those long range shots...
And a couple more pics to show some of the shooting expedition
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FLehigh%252040x215%2520CF.jpg&hash=6601f8d6c6393fa576014996747b499d3295cbf1) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Lehigh%2040x215%20CF.jpg.html)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FTailgate%2520Work%2520Bench.jpg&hash=f8f691da654006cb0ddc3621b5e56b8f540c63f4) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Tailgate%20Work%20Bench.jpg.html)
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 07, 2015, 11:42:18 AM
Post by: Sabotloader on July 07, 2015, 11:53:37 AM
I always enjoy your posts, even though I haven't ever shot a M/L, yet, much less hunted.
thank you..
Post by: Fl0und3rz on July 07, 2015, 12:01:08 PM
I always enjoy your posts, even though I haven't ever shot a M/L, yet, much less hunted.
thank you..
I first ran across your posts when researching White inline muzzleloaders.
Post by: Sabotloader on July 07, 2015, 12:27:29 PM
I always enjoy your posts, even though I haven't ever shot a M/L, yet, much less hunted.
thank you..
I first ran across your posts when researching White inline muzzleloaders.
Whites in their day were top-of-the-line and even today it is awful hard to beat them. Had Doc White been able to keep control of the company - I can not even imagine what he would have on the market today!
Post by: oneshot12 on July 07, 2015, 03:19:59 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on July 08, 2015, 01:24:06 PM
I think we have answered the question about whether the bullet might be yawing or not. SShooter has put a post about shooting the bullet this morning form a slow twist 45. His holes looked ragged also. But his 1 hole group at a 100 was really nice and a 1" group of two shots at 200 and no sign of tumbling is even better.
http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/black-powder/400160-215-lehigh-slower-twist.html (http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/black-powder/400160-215-lehigh-slower-twist.html)
Then something SShooter mentioned prompted me to go take a look at my target board. After doing that there is no question in my mind the bullets were not yawing.
Here is a close up of one of the random 40 cal holes.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FIMG_0859.jpg&hash=882155894e75c6f65337609cdafa70fcbd40f597) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/IMG_0859.jpg.html)
All of them looked very good - I was also able to plug new bullets into the existing holes - it was a really tight push to get them in - but there they are.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FComposite_2.jpg&hash=efdfe6f70664d9e7d913bda9f5abefb1b4948114) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Composite_2.jpg.html)