Post by: Colin on July 09, 2015, 04:33:33 PM
I'm a graduate of the UW college of engineering so I understand perfectly well the dynamics of a car heating up in the sun on a hot day and think I have taken all measures to ensure my pup is safe and healthy at all times. I know the signs of dehydration and overheating in a dog. I have read how to properly cool a dog in case of overheating. I check the NOAA website each morning and if it's too hot I leave my little guy at home.
Any thoughts on this new bill? Anything I can do better? BTW it doesn't actually go into effect until the 24th of this month. The bill number is SSB5501 and I contacted the state legislature as well as the local police and animal control to obtain a definition of how I should know it's too hot per the law and nothing as of yet. Hoping to hear from animal control tomorrow.
Idk this kind of bothered me thinking that someone could just break into my truck to save my dog then send him to a shelter where he would be euthanized if he wasn't adopted in 15 days... ugh. All based on an officer or animal control agent who may or may not be very educated in the symptoms of overheating.
Post by: Colin on July 09, 2015, 09:21:17 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 09, 2015, 09:26:37 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,173901.msg2298745.html#msg2298745 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,173901.msg2298745.html#msg2298745)
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 09, 2015, 09:56:42 PM
Post by: Colin on July 09, 2015, 09:58:14 PM
Post by: Colin on July 09, 2015, 10:00:57 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 09, 2015, 10:12:30 PM
Post by: Colin on July 09, 2015, 10:19:03 PM
could maybe get one of those little digital thermometers like RadioShack has ($5?) and leave it close to a window so do-gooders can see that it isn't 'broiling' in there. ??I like that idea. Gives me another way to ensure its not getting too hot also.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on July 09, 2015, 10:23:19 PM
I think cheaper and no batteries might be to get the little paste on versions that fish tanks use.could maybe get one of those little digital thermometers like RadioShack has ($5?) and leave it close to a window so do-gooders can see that it isn't 'broiling' in there. ??I like that idea. Gives me another way to ensure its not getting too hot also.
Post by: zike on July 09, 2015, 11:37:43 PM
https://eplaya.burningman.com/viewtopic.php?t=33842
Post by: csaaphill on July 09, 2015, 11:49:35 PM
Post by: Bango skank on July 10, 2015, 12:46:56 AM
Post by: Colin on July 10, 2015, 04:31:25 AM
Here's an idea to keep your dog cool or your tent or van.That's pretty smart... might just make one for $h!ts and giggles.
https://eplaya.burningman.com/viewtopic.php?t=33842
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 10, 2015, 05:34:57 AM
If you're responsible, that's great, but some liberal loony isn't going to look at it that way. They will call the cops and you will get a bill and lose your best friend and maybe even get slapped with animal cruelty charges, regardless of if it's true or not. That is just my opinion.
Post by: Colin on July 10, 2015, 05:52:42 AM
I won't do it. My wife and i have gotten in arguments over it, i won't leave the dog in the car if it's 70 out, i don't care how shady the parking spot is, or ventilated the car is. I don't want someone to walk by and break my window trying to be captain planet, and today it's the appearance of a panting dog in a car that would make that happen. I'm not paying for a new window and i sure as hell am not going to get my dog taken away.
If you're responsible, that's great, but some liberal loony isn't going to look at it that way. They will call the cops and you will get a bill and lose your best friend and maybe even get slapped with animal cruelty charges, regardless of if it's true or not. That is just my opinion.
I understand your view point, it's basically the same as my wifes. Why not just avoid the situation? It's a valid point but it's a valid point that if your not causing harm no one has the right to alter or infringe on my behavior. If the looney bin is full and the overflow are blocking me from going to my public land hunting spit I'm going to go by and hunt no matter what on principle alone. I see it that if I alter what I do based on harassment then I am condoning them to continue to do that.
Like Bango said there are times when this is a valid law. I have no issues with breaking a window and even paying to repair for it to be fixed if a dog is in jeopardy of death or serious harm. It's just that the law doesn't inform people wanting to make a complaint or people wanting to avoid having a dangerous situation occur with their pet.
I mean a kid can drown in an inch of water does that mean we should pass a law that says your kids will get taken away if you aren't watching them close enough at the pool or lake? Then whenever anyone calls law enforcment because they think your not watching them close enough they have to respond to the call and assess the situation. So then because of this you stop taking your kids to the lake??? Obviously in the real world kid doesn't = dog but I think it elaborates on what I'm trying to say.
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 10, 2015, 06:29:31 AM
Post by: AspenBud on July 10, 2015, 07:41:23 AM
The police did nothing in the end, but because they got a call they had to respond.
Post by: stevemiller on July 11, 2015, 11:27:25 PM
So a coworker had a little incident at work today where the cops were called about his dogs in the car. Turns out there is a new bill that allows law enforcment or animal control the ability to remove animals from harmful situations without a warrant. I mean don't get me wrong this seems well intentioned but how do they determine if the animal is really at risk. I take my dog to work everyday from 530 am to 2 or 3pm. Park in the shade of the building until about noon and then the broad leaf tree that I also park next to keeps most of the sun off the truck from then on. Have a windshield sun screen, a 14 foot by 12 foot breathable mesh reflective tarp for the hot days and a 12 volt box fan that I turn on in the afternoons. We train or go for a walk in the AM and then he gets let out and water refilled every 2 hrs as well as a 30 mins walk at lunch...Might get clobbered by everyone here but why would anyone take their dog to work any way.Would you take your kid to work with you and leave the kid in the car while you worked your shift?Dont get me wrong i love my dog to but jeez,really?Here lately and i dont know why,I have been seeing way more dogs being taken into public buildings,Whats going on,did I miss something?I thought pets for the most part were not allowed unless a working dog.
I'm a graduate of the UW college of engineering so I understand perfectly well the dynamics of a car heating up in the sun on a hot day and think I have taken all measures to ensure my pup is safe and healthy at all times. I know the signs of dehydration and overheating in a dog. I have read how to properly cool a dog in case of overheating. I check the NOAA website each morning and if it's too hot I leave my little guy at home.
Any thoughts on this new bill? Anything I can do better? BTW it doesn't actually go into effect until the 24th of this month. The bill number is SSB5501 and I contacted the state legislature as well as the local police and animal control to obtain a definition of how I should know it's too hot per the law and nothing as of yet. Hoping to hear from animal control tomorrow.
Idk this kind of bothered me thinking that someone could just break into my truck to save my dog then send him to a shelter where he would be euthanized if he wasn't adopted in 15 days... ugh. All based on an officer or animal control agent who may or may not be very educated in the symptoms of overheating.
Post by: jackelope on July 11, 2015, 11:29:51 PM
So a coworker had a little incident at work today where the cops were called about his dogs in the car. Turns out there is a new bill that allows law enforcment or animal control the ability to remove animals from harmful situations without a warrant. I mean don't get me wrong this seems well intentioned but how do they determine if the animal is really at risk. I take my dog to work everyday from 530 am to 2 or 3pm. Park in the shade of the building until about noon and then the broad leaf tree that I also park next to keeps most of the sun off the truck from then on. Have a windshield sun screen, a 14 foot by 12 foot breathable mesh reflective tarp for the hot days and a 12 volt box fan that I turn on in the afternoons. We train or go for a walk in the AM and then he gets let out and water refilled every 2 hrs as well as a 30 mins walk at lunch...Might get clobbered by everyone here but why would anyone take their dog to work any way.Would you take your kid to work with you and leave the kid in the car while you worked your shift?Dont get me wrong i love my dog to but jeez,really?
I'm a graduate of the UW college of engineering so I understand perfectly well the dynamics of a car heating up in the sun on a hot day and think I have taken all measures to ensure my pup is safe and healthy at all times. I know the signs of dehydration and overheating in a dog. I have read how to properly cool a dog in case of overheating. I check the NOAA website each morning and if it's too hot I leave my little guy at home.
Any thoughts on this new bill? Anything I can do better? BTW it doesn't actually go into effect until the 24th of this month. The bill number is SSB5501 and I contacted the state legislature as well as the local police and animal control to obtain a definition of how I should know it's too hot per the law and nothing as of yet. Hoping to hear from animal control tomorrow.
Idk this kind of bothered me thinking that someone could just break into my truck to save my dog then send him to a shelter where he would be euthanized if he wasn't adopted in 15 days... ugh. All based on an officer or animal control agent who may or may not be very educated in the symptoms of overheating.
:yeah:
I'm with Steve on this one ( :yike: ). Right or wrong on what this new bill means…it doesn't seem like a good idea at all to me to leave your dog in the car all day at work, especially in the heat we've been having.
Flame away.
Post by: Colin on July 12, 2015, 12:04:00 AM
I mean there's a lot to do... and the clock is ticking whiles he's young and these things are a lot easier to teach him.
I guess my point of the super long post is that we can accomplish a lot during those few hrs of free time before and after work leaving some time for family and fighting traffic to get to the places where non city training can happen.
Not meant to be a blast at either of you guys I hope I have not offended either of you or any like minded lurkers. I leave the pup at home on the hot days but when it's 75 out he can easily be in the car more than comfortably and safely with the setup I described in the OP. I just feel that because of a few that irresponsibly put there dogs in harms way it creates a few people that irresponsibly react to a dog in the car and ruin what is actually a really productive thing.
Post by: stevemiller on July 12, 2015, 12:08:43 AM
Post by: Colin on July 12, 2015, 07:21:52 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on July 12, 2015, 07:29:43 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on July 12, 2015, 09:24:59 AM
Once they were big enough to be in outside kennel they stayed home.
I am not for any person being able to bust your window because there are just too many non common sense folks out there. I Had this discussion with a gal at work who is always saying she would break a window.
Being a store manager I am real tired of folks who have to drag or carry their dog every where they go. Health code prohibits pets in our store unless service animal.
Trouble every little rat terrier in someone's arms is a service animal they say.
And what's with all the dogs in hardware stores.
Thread jack sorry
Op the trouble is no matter what you do. On the street 80% of folks are going to call the cops. So think of a back up. Plan.
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 12, 2015, 09:30:36 AM
"Burn him at the stake!" :fire.:
I also had the truck running with the AC engaged, doors locked and I had the second set of keys. When I came out, some old sweatpant'd bat was calling the cops and tearing me a new one for it. Telling me that it was probably 150 degrees in the car and I deserved to go to jail...yadda yadda. I brushed her off, got in the truck and left.
to this day I am perplexed that she didn't examine two facts
1) The pup was fine, happy and not panting
2) The 40-Series Flowmaster is kind of hard to not hear :dunno:
Post by: Rainier10 on July 12, 2015, 10:46:22 AM
That cracked me up. An I agree with Steve on this one also. :yike: What is going on?So a coworker had a little incident at work today where the cops were called about his dogs in the car. Turns out there is a new bill that allows law enforcment or animal control the ability to remove animals from harmful situations without a warrant. I mean don't get me wrong this seems well intentioned but how do they determine if the animal is really at risk. I take my dog to work everyday from 530 am to 2 or 3pm. Park in the shade of the building until about noon and then the broad leaf tree that I also park next to keeps most of the sun off the truck from then on. Have a windshield sun screen, a 14 foot by 12 foot breathable mesh reflective tarp for the hot days and a 12 volt box fan that I turn on in the afternoons. We train or go for a walk in the AM and then he gets let out and water refilled every 2 hrs as well as a 30 mins walk at lunch...Might get clobbered by everyone here but why would anyone take their dog to work any way.Would you take your kid to work with you and leave the kid in the car while you worked your shift?Dont get me wrong i love my dog to but jeez,really?
I'm a graduate of the UW college of engineering so I understand perfectly well the dynamics of a car heating up in the sun on a hot day and think I have taken all measures to ensure my pup is safe and healthy at all times. I know the signs of dehydration and overheating in a dog. I have read how to properly cool a dog in case of overheating. I check the NOAA website each morning and if it's too hot I leave my little guy at home.
Any thoughts on this new bill? Anything I can do better? BTW it doesn't actually go into effect until the 24th of this month. The bill number is SSB5501 and I contacted the state legislature as well as the local police and animal control to obtain a definition of how I should know it's too hot per the law and nothing as of yet. Hoping to hear from animal control tomorrow.
Idk this kind of bothered me thinking that someone could just break into my truck to save my dog then send him to a shelter where he would be euthanized if he wasn't adopted in 15 days... ugh. All based on an officer or animal control agent who may or may not be very educated in the symptoms of overheating.
:yeah:
I'm with Steve on this one ( :yike: ). Right or wrong on what this new bill means…it doesn't seem like a good idea at all to me to leave your dog in the car all day at work, especially in the heat we've been having.
Flame away.
Post by: Jonathan_S on July 12, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
So a coworker had a little incident at work today where the cops were called about his dogs in the car. Turns out there is a new bill that allows law enforcment or animal control the ability to remove animals from harmful situations without a warrant. I mean don't get me wrong this seems well intentioned but how do they determine if the animal is really at risk. I take my dog to work everyday from 530 am to 2 or 3pm. Park in the shade of the building until about noon and then the broad leaf tree that I also park next to keeps most of the sun off the truck from then on. Have a windshield sun screen, a 14 foot by 12 foot breathable mesh reflective tarp for the hot days and a 12 volt box fan that I turn on in the afternoons. We train or go for a walk in the AM and then he gets let out and water refilled every 2 hrs as well as a 30 mins walk at lunch...Might get clobbered by everyone here but why would anyone take their dog to work any way.Would you take your kid to work with you and leave the kid in the car while you worked your shift?Dont get me wrong i love my dog to but jeez,really?
I'm a graduate of the UW college of engineering so I understand perfectly well the dynamics of a car heating up in the sun on a hot day and think I have taken all measures to ensure my pup is safe and healthy at all times. I know the signs of dehydration and overheating in a dog. I have read how to properly cool a dog in case of overheating. I check the NOAA website each morning and if it's too hot I leave my little guy at home.
Any thoughts on this new bill? Anything I can do better? BTW it doesn't actually go into effect until the 24th of this month. The bill number is SSB5501 and I contacted the state legislature as well as the local police and animal control to obtain a definition of how I should know it's too hot per the law and nothing as of yet. Hoping to hear from animal control tomorrow.
Idk this kind of bothered me thinking that someone could just break into my truck to save my dog then send him to a shelter where he would be euthanized if he wasn't adopted in 15 days... ugh. All based on an officer or animal control agent who may or may not be very educated in the symptoms of overheating.
:yeah:
I'm with Steve on this one ( :yike: ).
:yeah: anyone have a recommendation for a 12 gauge load for flying pigs?
Post by: Becky on July 12, 2015, 11:11:07 PM
Post by: Colin on July 13, 2015, 10:22:06 AM