Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 26, 2015, 01:02:42 AM
Post by: bankwalker on July 26, 2015, 01:10:04 AM
Best bet is to call and find out before driving to the location. Or take a trip and check the gates, there will be signs up.
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 26, 2015, 01:18:26 AM
Post by: Elkterd on July 26, 2015, 04:27:30 AM
Post by: grundy53 on July 26, 2015, 05:04:10 AM
My problem is i don't access it from gates, but there is a sign up that says "closed to public entry due to extreme fire danger" on the gate. That's not clear enough for me because I'm not entering there.It means their land is closed to public entry. Period.
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 26, 2015, 05:37:18 AM
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 26, 2015, 05:51:39 AM
Post by: Eli346 on July 26, 2015, 06:08:11 AM
Post by: MADMAX on July 26, 2015, 06:11:47 AM
Due to the increasing fire danger, Southwest WA Tree Farm non-permit lands are closed to
public access. This includes motorized vehicles, walking, biking or horseback riding. If you have
a valid Southwest WA recreational access permit you will be allowed to access the designated
permit areas unless conditions continue to escalate.
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 26, 2015, 06:17:56 AM
My problem is i don't access it from gates, but there is a sign up that says "closed to public entry due to extreme fire danger" on the gate. That's not clear enough for me because I'm not entering there."CLOSED TO PUBLIC ENTRY..." Is not clear enough?
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 26, 2015, 06:22:43 AM
My problem is i don't access it from gates, but there is a sign up that says "closed to public entry due to extreme fire danger" on the gate. That's not clear enough for me because I'm not entering there."CLOSED TO PUBLIC ENTRY..." Is not clear enough?
I posted what their website says, i'm not going to sit here and argue. Again, it doesn't say closed to all entry on their website, it says they urge caution to those intending to use their lands and ask for compliance with their no camping, smoking or fires policy. I'll just stop asking questions when i have them. Thanks anyways.
It's not St Helens. I'll just call the hotline. Thanks to those that tried to be helpful.
Post by: h20hunter on July 26, 2015, 07:23:10 AM
Post by: baker5150 on July 26, 2015, 07:36:11 AM
My areas have the same closed due to fire danger. Didn't bother checking the website. Land is posted closed in the real world, good enough for me without needing to look online to confirm.
:yeah:
Hard to argue against a posted sign.
Post by: huntingfool7 on July 26, 2015, 07:55:20 AM
That is to walk in also, correct? Or is it company specific? Should i just call and find out? So all scouting activity is to come to an immediate halt basically is what I'm asking? Will they slap you with trespassing charges if they catch you?
My problem is i don't access it from gates, but there is a sign up that says "closed to public entry due to extreme fire danger" on the gate. That's not clear enough for me because I'm not entering there.
Well if it's posted at the gate i just assumed it's motorized access, like people with woodcutting permits or people with motorcycles and stuff. That's why i asked, i don't see what my feet are going to set on fire regardless of how fast i walk. If you think i want to look like an idiot you can keep beating your head against a wall though, doesn't hurt me.
Besides, i checked their website and it says they "urge caution" and "compliance with no camping, smoking or fires policy". It doesn't say closed to all access, stay off our land or else. Again, that's why i'm asking, so i don't look like an idiot walking in and getting arrested or something.
My problem is i don't access it from gates, but there is a sign up that says "closed to public entry due to extreme fire danger" on the gate. That's not clear enough for me because I'm not entering there."CLOSED TO PUBLIC ENTRY..." Is not clear enough?
I posted what their website says, i'm not going to sit here and argue. Again, it doesn't say closed to all entry on their website, it says they urge caution to those intending to use their lands and ask for compliance with their no camping, smoking or fires policy. I'll just stop asking questions when i have them. Thanks anyways.
It's not St Helens. I'll just call the hotline. Thanks to those that tried to be helpful.
Not happy 'cause you're not getting the affirmation you're looking for. :dunno: Tough to claim ignorance with the above posts.
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 26, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
Post by: h20hunter on July 26, 2015, 08:24:34 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on July 26, 2015, 08:25:31 AM
Ignorance can go both ways if you don't talk to source and rely on heresay on a forum. I asked a simple question about confirming with the timber company and whether anyone has for walk in access.
But you won't mention the company?
Post by: h20hunter on July 26, 2015, 08:28:04 AM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 26, 2015, 08:38:59 AM
I think in a week everything was closed to non permit access anyway?
Post by: CplRaines on July 26, 2015, 08:39:36 AM
I see you are a Kitsap person, which suggests you are wanting to head to my neck of the woods. The land around here is owned, for the most part, by Pope Resources. There land is closed to all access right now. You can't walk, run, bike, drive, jump, skip, crawl or flap your arms really fast and attempt to fly into their land. It doesn't matter if you enter it at a gate or somewhere you can't see the sign from. It's private property. Stay out.
You may not like the answer but that is the situation.
Post by: h20hunter on July 26, 2015, 08:44:23 AM
:tup:
Post by: bobcat on July 26, 2015, 08:54:34 AM
They put the signs on the gates because that's normally where most people access those lands. It's unreasonable to expect them to post their entire property line.
Post by: jay.sharkbait on July 26, 2015, 08:58:58 AM
The ability to do this would make you part of a protected class.
Post by: fireweed on July 26, 2015, 09:42:14 AM
I like they are calling it closed to non-permit access. Used to say closed to all public access but if you had a permit it didnt apply to you until they closed it to All access then it did. Was very confusing.
I think in a week everything was closed to non permit access anyway?
Weird how if you buy a permit, you all of a sudden aren't a danger for starting a fire...
Post by: ICEMAN on July 26, 2015, 12:23:16 PM
Ignorance can go both ways if you don't talk to source and rely on heresay on a forum. .....
Oxymoron.
If you don't want to rely on hearsay from a forum, why ask? :dunno:
Post by: MountainWalk on July 26, 2015, 12:41:09 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on July 26, 2015, 12:47:17 PM
Ignorance can go both ways if you don't talk to source and rely on heresay on a forum. .....
Oxymoron.
If you don't want to rely on hearsay from a forum, why ask? :dunno:
:lol4:
Post by: Netminder01 on July 26, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
Ignorance can go both ways if you don't talk to source and rely on heresay on a forum. .....
Oxymoron.
If you don't want to rely on hearsay from a forum, why ask? :dunno:
:lol4:
:yeah:
Post by: bankwalker on July 26, 2015, 03:51:14 PM
Post by: Magnum_Willys on July 26, 2015, 03:59:34 PM
If there is a sign saying close to public entry posted on a gate....then it's closed plain and simple.
Unless you are a permit holder..........
Post by: RadSav on July 26, 2015, 04:46:40 PM
If there is a sign saying close to public entry posted on a gate....then it's closed plain and simple.
Unless you are a permit holder..........
Unless you are a permit holder carrying all the required fire gear. Not sure I can remember everything required right now, but I know it included a shovel, axe and certain size/type fire extinguisher. You could lose your access rights even with a permit if you do not have these items with you during fire season.
Here we go - from last weeks Weyco email:
As we go into another hot and dry weekend we wanted to remind our permittees to make sure they have the proper fire tools with them when entering the permit area.
1. During fire season, Permittee must carry a shovel, axe and a properly functioning U.L.- approved fire extinguisher 5 pound BC minimum. Permittee must notify the Department of Natural Resources at 800-562-6010 or by calling 911 if any fires are observed.
Post by: huntingbaldguy on July 27, 2015, 12:35:58 AM
Ignorance can go both ways if you don't talk to source and rely on heresay on a forum. .....
Oxymoron.
If you don't want to rely on hearsay from a forum, why ask? :dunno:
No i know, you're right. I apparently just learned this, that's why i said it. Everyone is just going to criticize you for asking a simple question so best to ask the source. Lesson learned.
Post by: ICEMAN on July 27, 2015, 06:22:06 AM
Here is to your hunting year! :brew: Good luck, I hope the woods gets opened for you so you can enjoy your hunt.
Post by: Bullkllr on July 27, 2015, 08:06:18 AM
This was after substantial rain in September. I don't think this is the situation OP's case.
Post by: cryder on July 30, 2015, 09:13:53 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on July 30, 2015, 09:33:09 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on July 30, 2015, 09:38:31 AM
Post by: Angry Perch on July 30, 2015, 10:44:01 AM
" if you are able to flap your arms fast enough to fly"
The ability to do this would make you part of a protected class.
Which means if you want to order a cake to celebrate your first flight, they HAVE to make it for you!
Post by: cryder on August 01, 2015, 07:04:25 AM