Post by: Ridgerunner on January 11, 2009, 04:19:53 PM
Will the proposal to move the elk season back, open more MZ units, start targeting those big 2 point muleys, limit the number of special hunt choices? WE'll find out real soon.
Post by: dbllunger on January 11, 2009, 04:21:47 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:02:29 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 13, 2009, 12:05:04 PM
Post by: boneaddict on January 13, 2009, 12:06:32 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:07:41 PM
rumor has it they were going to have the modern season until the 30th of October. I about had a cow and called my "congreesman" over that one.
I didn't hear any dates regarding that but I did also hear an expansion of the modern rifle season was highly likely as well.
Post by: rasbo on January 13, 2009, 12:10:34 PM
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:11:37 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:19:46 PM
I have no problem with that :dunno: we should applaud more opportunities not complain about them
To me these would be negative changes. I'm not complaining about the Swakane changes but if you look at things already - I believe the archers do not get very many choices with special permits as it stands today. The archers take longer to do their hunts because the activity of closing the distance to the animal requires more time in the field for many people. It doesn't mean they are getting more opportunities than anyone else if their season is longer. If I was an MZ hunter it would be good and I am glad they are expanding things for that user group. Not sure the modern season expansion is a good idea but I am confident we will know after a year or two.
What I believe we should avoid is the concept that each user group is meeting some sort of quota. As if the WDFW should place a critter behind every bush so that the archers or MZ or modern users can get their "fair share". Or even expanding the season unless they are intending to take more animals.
Post by: mossback91 on January 13, 2009, 12:23:20 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:25:03 PM
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:27:25 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:30:26 PM
What I outlined is the two major points which I will illustrate again for you:
1) Special Hunt permit opportunities for archers are extremely limited on deer. This may be ok with me as long as regular seasons are not cut too greatly.
2) Proportional arguments between user groups don't always make sense.
Post by: ThePascoKid on January 13, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
Post by: bucklucky on January 13, 2009, 12:35:13 PM
But you have to look at the big picture. Archers get 2 mos to hunt deer, it selfish to say that one group deserves more time than another, don't get me wrong, I do bowhunt for elk and have bowhunted for deer many times. I found it easier to take a deer with a bow (esp mulies) just for the time of year you can hunt them, your getting them before anyone else in the early season then you get to hunt them while they are trying to winter. We need to band together as hunters no matter the method that we hunt, it will be better for the sport.
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:35:22 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:36:21 PM
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But I mean come on 6 to 7 weeks?and we can agree to disagree.
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:37:23 PM
Why is it that 99% of the bucks I take in for taxidermy are rifle kills??But you have to look at the big picture. Archers get 2 mos to hunt deer, it selfish to say that one group deserves more time than another, don't get me wrong, I do bowhunt for elk and have bowhunted for deer many times. I found it easier to take a deer with a bow (esp mulies) just for the time of year you can hunt them, your getting them before anyone else in the early season then you get to hunt them while they are trying to winter. We need to band together as hunters no matter the method that we hunt, it will be better for the sport.
Honestly i think its because a good portion of archers take does and small bucks :dunno:
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 13, 2009, 12:38:16 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:39:01 PM
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Honestly i think its because a good portion of archers take does and small bucks
I might agree with that. But it also shows that those 6-7 weeks archers getting today are not really much of an impact on the deer. Thus shortening the season is not necessarily the right thing to do. This is where the proportional user arguments don't always add up.
Post by: bucklucky on January 13, 2009, 12:40:32 PM
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:42:22 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:43:53 PM
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:47:45 PM
I rifle hunt. I don't think the archery season is taking away from the rifle hunters. that's the layman's term for some parts of my responses above.
Me either, thats where I think your confused with my responses. I have no problem with archery season, I would just like to see modern open for one more week.
Post by: TeacherMan on January 13, 2009, 12:49:03 PM
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:49:42 PM
I hope they dont mess to much with 101
I agree
Post by: Antlershed on January 13, 2009, 12:51:38 PM
Archers do not get 2 months for deer.If we are talking westside, archers got 73 days to hunt deer in certain areas this year.
I don't think they should extend modern season, nor should they shorten the archery season. FWIW, I hunt both.
Post by: boneaddict on January 13, 2009, 12:52:07 PM
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:53:32 PM
I've heard rumors of draw only for muleys there. We'll see.
I hope not :(
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 13, 2009, 12:54:29 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 13, 2009, 12:55:00 PM
Post by: Ray on January 13, 2009, 12:56:36 PM
I rifle hunt. I don't think the archery season is taking away from the rifle hunters. that's the layman's term for some parts of my responses above.
Me either, thats where I think your confused with my responses. I have no problem with archery season, I would just like to see modern open for one more week.
I'm not confused with your remarks and I am ok with them. I have an understanding that someone else with a lot of political clout was able to suggest along the lines of what I briefly mentioned on the subject so that modern season was expanded and archery season was contracted.
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 12:57:26 PM
Draw only for muleys in 101 I actually think is a good idea.
I don't have a problem with that, I see very few there as it is. Whities have displaced them pretty well
Post by: Antlershed on January 13, 2009, 12:57:35 PM
The long archery season is taking the opportunity away from the MZ, not the modern firearm guys.But this year in the late archery season, I was competing with MZ guys because they made our seasons the same time.
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 13, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
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But this year in the late archery season, I was competing with MZ guys because they made our seasons the same time.
I was referring more to the early season, the late season overlap is a bunch of BS.
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 01:01:10 PM
I rifle hunt. I don't think the archery season is taking away from the rifle hunters. that's the layman's term for some parts of my responses above.
Me either, thats where I think your confused with my responses. I have no problem with archery season, I would just like to see modern open for one more week.
I'm not confused with your remarks and I am ok with them. I have an understanding that someone else with a lot of political clout was able to suggest along the lines of what I briefly mentioned on the subject so that modern season was expanded and archery season was contracted.
Gottcha ;)
Post by: Antlershed on January 13, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
Ok, well I can agree with that then. MZ guys get what, 7 days for the early season? I would be fine with them cutting the early archery deer season short. I don't even really focus on deer then with my bow anyway.QuoteBut this year in the late archery season, I was competing with MZ guys because they made our seasons the same time.
I was referring more to the early season, the late season overlap is a bunch of BS.
Post by: Gobble on January 13, 2009, 01:08:33 PM
Post by: bucklucky on January 13, 2009, 01:09:53 PM
Post by: boneaddict on January 13, 2009, 01:26:10 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on January 13, 2009, 01:53:32 PM
Post by: saudog on January 16, 2009, 05:25:35 PM
Well what does everyone think they will be? They are supposed to come out this week on Friday?
Will the proposal to move the elk season back, open more MZ units, start targeting those big 2 point muleys, limit the number of special hunt choices? WE'll find out real soon.
Hey guys. Did they come out with any updates?
Post by: bowhuntin on January 16, 2009, 05:31:09 PM
Well what does everyone think they will be? They are supposed to come out this week on Friday?
Will the proposal to move the elk season back, open more MZ units, start targeting those big 2 point muleys, limit the number of special hunt choices? WE'll find out real soon.
Hey guys. Did they come out with any updates?
I don't know, though I was wondering the same thing. I bet unless somebody from this site was there that we will have to wait until next week to find out though.
Post by: davis5 on January 16, 2009, 07:26:35 PM
1) all late mule deer archey will go away.
2) the general rifle mule deer will go to 3or 4 days
3) elk rifle 3days also.
today I talked with other guys at a meeting and he said they wanted to get ride of the colcum( sp) all togther due to the indians killing all the elk.
I don't know if these ideas are bs or these people know what they are talking about.
just rumers ??????
davis 5
Post by: TeacherMan on January 18, 2009, 10:31:19 AM
Post by: gasman on January 18, 2009, 02:01:31 PM
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 18, 2009, 02:06:38 PM
Post by: bowhuntin on January 18, 2009, 02:24:05 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on January 18, 2009, 02:42:55 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 18, 2009, 03:29:33 PM
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On wednesday night, I talked with a biologist about the up coming rule changes. I don't know if he knows what he is talking about, but here are a few of them rumors, remember these are just rumors. he said the folowing.
1) all late mule deer archey will go away.
Ive heard the same thing from multiple sources
Post by: mossback91 on January 18, 2009, 04:12:22 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 18, 2009, 04:23:42 PM
Post by: NWTFhunter on January 18, 2009, 04:54:42 PM
Im joking.
But on a good note, the whitetail season is still going in Mississippi !!
Post by: ThePascoKid on January 20, 2009, 12:23:52 PM