Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 15, 2015, 12:15:01 PM
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Post by: BigBullDreamer11 on August 18, 2015, 06:42:06 AM
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Post by: bentley30-06 on August 18, 2015, 09:10:37 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 18, 2015, 09:24:30 AM
Ya thats what i am thinking is the foxpro mite go on the next trip. To bad it wont be in hancock.. Hopefully we get some rain for archery season i would like to be in their opening day.Ya I don't understand why Vail can stay open why can't hancock? Hancock closes for elk too while you can hunt vail for elk. Grass is looking greener over there!
Post by: bentley30-06 on August 18, 2015, 09:34:12 AM
Post by: BigBullDreamer11 on August 18, 2015, 11:23:02 AM
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Post by: bentley30-06 on August 26, 2015, 12:58:13 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 26, 2015, 01:00:20 PM
If it aint open the 1st I will not purchase my permit next year. The price will probably go up again also. Screw That!
Yup I've had ALL summer off and haven't got to go mountain biking or bear hunt or do anything around here in the woods killing me... I talked 2 of my friends into buying permits they are pissed
Post by: BigBullDreamer11 on August 27, 2015, 11:06:36 AM
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Post by: Firedogg on August 27, 2015, 11:16:14 PM
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Post by: cowboycraig on August 31, 2015, 06:23:10 AM
I was looking at NE Washington IEP land, it's similar to Hancock. They have 116000 acres and sell permits for access for hunting and firewood cutting. The family permit is 65 dollars. You get 5 cords of wood with that. Hancock is 375! I can't believe the difference in price....Pretty sure the quality of hunting is better too with some of the pictures guys have been posting from trail camerasWill have to checkout IEP (have no idea who that is). You're saying hunting is better at IEB or Kapowsin?
One nice thing about kapowsin is the hunting pressure seems really low. Seems like many permits people buy end up being for berry picking, hiking, etc. Have noticed a few people out there dog training and walking.
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Post by: BigBullDreamer11 on August 31, 2015, 07:51:22 AM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 31, 2015, 11:48:45 AM
Post by: bobcat on August 31, 2015, 11:54:05 AM
A limit on the number of access permits issued should theoretically make it worth more.
Post by: cowboycraig on August 31, 2015, 12:04:15 PM
Not really a fair comparison- the IEP permits are unlimited in number whereas the Kapowsin ARE limited.
A limit on the number of access permits issued should theoretically make it worth more.
And this year Kapowsin isn't even sold out!
Was funny over the weekend was checking my cams. A truck cam up the road to me "secret spot" which isn't really secret... isn't that far removed from a main road. Guess I must have given them quite a look... they just backed back down the road. lol
Post by: Duckslayer89 on August 31, 2015, 06:33:38 PM
Post by: cowboycraig on August 31, 2015, 07:26:58 PM
Ya the Hancock permits aren't sold out and I doubt they will. So basically that is unlimited. Anyone who wants one got one. But I hear what your saying bobcat. Cowboy what side do you hit?
I enter the Buckley gate and drive a long while :)
Post by: Old Man Yager on September 06, 2015, 05:20:36 PM
Post by: hoytem on October 01, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
Ya the Hancock permits aren't sold out and I doubt they will. So basically that is unlimited. Anyone who wants one got one. But I hear what your saying bobcat. Cowboy what side do you hit?
I enter the Buckley gate and drive a long while :)
where do you drive to? the buckley gate seems like it only lets you access that portion, which isn't very big.
Post by: Duckslayer89 on October 01, 2015, 02:28:48 PM
Ya the Hancock permits aren't sold out and I doubt they will. So basically that is unlimited. Anyone who wants one got one. But I hear what your saying bobcat. Cowboy what side do you hit?
Ya Buckley gate only lets you hit that area. My buddy liked it because it was any buck in there, and 2 point minimum everywhere else in kapowsin. However this year it is any buck everywhere. I wish it was still 2 point minimum though for future quality. Anyone else feel like that?
I enter the Buckley gate and drive a long while :)
where do you drive to? the buckley gate seems like it only lets you access that portion, which isn't very big.
Post by: cowboycraig on October 01, 2015, 05:58:50 PM
Ya the Hancock permits aren't sold out and I doubt they will. So basically that is unlimited. Anyone who wants one got one. But I hear what your saying bobcat. Cowboy what side do you hit?
I enter the Buckley gate and drive a long while :)
where do you drive to? the buckley gate seems like it only lets you access that portion, which isn't very big.
Take the main road for a while and there are plenty of off-shoots to poke around. It isn't big, but for me big enough. Have been stalking it all summer.
Post by: cowboycraig on November 20, 2015, 07:23:19 PM
Post by: Thehowler on November 20, 2015, 07:59:20 PM
Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 20, 2015, 08:11:45 PM
Anybody out there getting lucky late season?
I've seen 31 deer in the last 2 days, only one 3 inch spike! I have a feeling tomorrow it's going to go down. My legs are sore. How has it been for you? I was thinking today man wonder how cowboy is doing in Buckley haha I was at Bridgate. I had a ton of activity in this small clear cut surrounded by tall reprod right when the sun hit it they were getting warm.
Post by: Crunchy on November 20, 2015, 08:18:27 PM
Post by: cowboycraig on November 20, 2015, 08:21:57 PM
Have been sick the last 2 weeks or so. Not sure if I will make it out this late season. Was going to hit it Thursday and Friday, had arranged time off etc. But wasn't able to hit the field was way too sick. This weekend up for hunting but have other stuff to do :(Anybody out there getting lucky late season?
I've seen 31 deer in the last 2 days, only one 3 inch spike! I have a feeling tomorrow it's going to go down. My legs are sore. How has it been for you? I was thinking today man wonder how cowboy is doing in Buckley haha I was at Bridgate. I had a ton of activity in this small clear cut surrounded by tall reprod right when the sun hit it they were getting warm.
Going to try and clear the schedule and get out some Sunday.
Good luck everyone!
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Post by: Thehowler on November 20, 2015, 08:33:07 PM
Post by: Crunchy on November 20, 2015, 08:43:48 PM
You kind of look familiar Crunchy, you didn't run into a blowdown fir tree before first light, on the main gate side, then decided on plan B did you?No I don't hunt the main gate side much, usually bear only on the main gate side for me.
Post by: justyhntr on November 21, 2015, 08:17:36 PM
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Post by: big wood on November 21, 2015, 08:37:38 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on November 21, 2015, 08:41:19 PM
I agree 100% they don't give you enough time to get way in the back of the farm and walk or ride behind a gate 6 miles. Also getting out is like an 1 hour after sunset and I hunt until it is dark and you have to reverse the process to get out. I am glad there is a gate but wish they would extend the times a little:yeah: I forgot to mention I have several times had to come out late. Stupid rule.
Post by: Crunchy on November 21, 2015, 08:48:37 PM
Post by: big wood on November 21, 2015, 08:57:52 PM
Post by: Thehowler on November 22, 2015, 10:01:28 AM
Loosing a 375.00 permit for going in a little early sounds a bit harsh, but who knows.
Bet most were given a warning.
Post by: bobcat on November 22, 2015, 10:25:44 AM
Post by: Thehowler on November 22, 2015, 10:48:14 AM
Post by: cowboycraig on November 22, 2015, 10:57:40 AM
Is what it is.
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Post by: BigBullDreamer11 on November 23, 2015, 06:21:00 AM
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Post by: cowboycraig on November 23, 2015, 08:56:44 AM
Was everyone more than 1.5 hours before sunrise? If so, think everyone is out of luck technically. But it is very predatory on Kapowsins part. I would say outright ass-a-holic.
Does anyone know what the hunter and Hancock relationship is like? Is this a rogue act by some guy trying to show his value that lacks humility, or is this how the company wants to treat hunters?
I would say the hunters are keeping an eye on a lot for Hancock. I once tipped off Hancock that some homeless had a camp going and gave the GPS coordinates.
A long list of "extra mile" things hunters have done for Hancock would be easy to create... and this is Hancocks "extra mile" for hunters?
Technically Hancock is correct if people where there more than 1.5 hours before sunrise, but it isn't good business at all on Hancocks part. I do notice they didn't sell all the Kapowsin passes this year... Noting a persons pass # and saying "don't do that again" is more appropriate. Isn't like the pass cost $20 or something.
Guess that time I gave a work crew (not sure who the were directions) and that time I let a crew or two out... should have just said "sucks for you, call
Just not good sportsmanship, two wrongs don't make a right.
Post by: cowboycraig on November 23, 2015, 09:00:23 AM
Oh another thing, they made us go out the king creek gate so we wouldn't go back and tell other guys not to go in.
We can all try to change this BS this Clyde guy pulls by emAiling on the Kapowsin Hancock website and let them know how there's no where near enough time to get back to where we want to go. Especially with a line of trucks. It's no wonder why guys are going 40 around blind corners.
I would have said no, since I have no idea where the king creek gate is. "Sorry I don't drive crappy logging roads I don't know in the dark, you will have to let me turn around or drive in front of me as an escort".
Post by: bobcat on November 23, 2015, 09:04:19 AM
But doesn't the rule say 1 1/2 hours before sunrise? If so, you went in 30 minutes early.
Not saying I agree with them pulling your permit for that. A warning for a first time offense seems more reasonable.
But it does sound like you were in fact going in early if you were going by legal hunting time instead of sunrise.
Post by: 2labs on November 23, 2015, 09:15:24 AM
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 23, 2015, 09:58:15 AM
Trouble in utopia? Just the way it is huntin the KINGS animals. Enjoy!
:yeah: Keep paying them to get abused........ :hello:
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on November 23, 2015, 01:54:57 PM
Post by: Firedogg on November 23, 2015, 04:11:25 PM
I always wondered if someone would get nailed when you can see headlights up in the hills several hours after "get out" time no where near any of the work sites.
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 24, 2015, 06:06:46 PM
Saw him this weekend at Lynch creek gate, when ever I see him I stop and BS with him a little bit. I definitely don't kiss his ass or anything, but I figure if I ever have an issue at least I've talked with him and he knows who my kid is too. Don't want any special treatment, and I follow thier rules, but you never know when something might come up the it helps you out if you've been friendly to the guy.
I would do the same. I definitely don't kiss ass either, but it didn't help me when it came to taking my permit. However I am getting my permit back Monday morning (sorry 2labs), spoke with division manager today he was cool guy actually. He said they are for sure going to be reviewing this rule and trying to change it so we can go in earlier for next year I gave him lots of input that people on this site have posted as well as people that I know from around town. I would be really surprised if they don't change the rule next year the way he was talking. So maybe something good will come out of it.
Post by: grundy53 on November 24, 2015, 06:11:46 PM
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 24, 2015, 06:14:37 PM
Glad to hear you are getting your permit back.
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Thanks man I am stoked too.
Post by: cowboycraig on November 24, 2015, 06:16:09 PM
Gives me a much better feeling towards Hancock. Glad will be seeing you out there. Will be out chasing grouse soon. There are actually lots out there.Glad to hear you are getting your permit back.
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Thanks man I am stoked too.
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 24, 2015, 06:21:04 PM
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 25, 2015, 07:01:58 AM
Post by: cowboycraig on November 25, 2015, 08:13:35 AM
I know I was trying to talk him into that today but I have to wait for Monday. I can't wait to try this muzzleloading thing out. See how it goes. I just really want it to go bang and I'll be happy haha no misfires.Do you have a multi season tag for muzzle? I might go buy a tag and muzzy.
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Post by: Duckslayer89 on November 25, 2015, 08:31:18 AM
I know I was trying to talk him into that today but I have to wait for Monday. I can't wait to try this muzzleloading thing out. See how it goes. I just really want it to go bang and I'll be happy haha no misfires.Do you have a multi season tag for muzzle? I might go buy a tag and muzzy.
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I will try huntincouple haha. Ya dude I do have multi season. I would why not only live once! From everything I've seen up there in my area the bucks were not chasing does yet. Unless they did it all between Halloween and late buck and stopped. For the amount of deer I saw it was crazy with no buck movement. Was hoping this muzzleloader season might be hot. Also bought it for over in Idaho and the late seasons over there.
Post by: cowboycraig on November 25, 2015, 03:44:03 PM
I know I was trying to talk him into that today but I have to wait for Monday. I can't wait to try this muzzleloading thing out. See how it goes. I just really want it to go bang and I'll be happy haha no misfires.Do you have a multi season tag for muzzle? I might go buy a tag and muzzy.
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Oh Wow, late Muzzle is Nov. 25 - Dec. 15.
If I can still get a tag I am in!
Craig
I will try huntincouple haha. Ya dude I do have multi season. I would why not only live once! From everything I've seen up there in my area the bucks were not chasing does yet. Unless they did it all between Halloween and late buck and stopped. For the amount of deer I saw it was crazy with no buck movement. Was hoping this muzzleloader season might be hot. Also bought it for over in Idaho and the late seasons over there.