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Title: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 24, 2015, 07:27:23 PM
my good friend up there talked to a natl forest forester today he said they are closing off north of highway 20 to Canada due to dangerous standing timber thru the end of the year and potentially into next year. You may wanna check more into this if your planning your upcoming season.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: finnman on August 25, 2015, 08:39:35 AM
Truthfully....they do not want to stress the wolves so they are closing it up.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 25, 2015, 08:55:09 AM
my good friend up there talked to a natl forest forester today he said they are closing off north of highway 20 to Canada due to dangerous standing timber thru the end of the year and potentially into next year. You may wanna check more into this if your planning your upcoming season.

Dang there goes some dang good whitetail hunting this fall.  The open area of the Sherman Creek Wildlife Area is going to look like a madhouse  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 06:17:30 PM
That won't be open either according to the forester. Everything north of 20 and everything west of 395 to 21
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 25, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
Wow so the entire 101  :o glad I am not hunting archery this year...101 is the only reason I hunt late whitetails  :'(
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 06:23:08 PM
If they keep the south of 20 open it will be a zoo
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 25, 2015, 06:26:21 PM
This is a bad year for the record books in a lot of ways.  Late rifle is going to be stupid
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: KFhunter on August 25, 2015, 06:30:35 PM
my good friend up there talked to a natl forest forester today he said they are closing off north of highway 20 to Canada due to dangerous standing timber thru the end of the year and potentially into next year. You may wanna check more into this if your planning your upcoming season.

IE:  No plans to salvage log it 
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
That's what they are discussing and trying to figure what they are going to do
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: KFhunter on August 25, 2015, 06:36:32 PM
I hope it don't look like white mountain fire area from the 1998 fire  :bash:

still a mess in there.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 06:37:45 PM
My guess is it will  :bash:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 25, 2015, 06:39:19 PM
Should be interesting to see how they are going to restrict access.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 06:45:00 PM
Yeah.. My buddy said they gated off the roads on highway 20
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 25, 2015, 06:48:39 PM
I would guess that Boulder to Curlew will remain open but anything that resembles a side road or 2 track will have a gate or an over zealous Backhoe operator on it.     :chuckle:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: UptheCreek on August 25, 2015, 07:15:53 PM
just read south of Sherman is also closed
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 07:37:17 PM
I'll check with my buddy.. He's hunting south of 20 and was just in there yesterday
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: UptheCreek on August 25, 2015, 07:48:26 PM
http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3851218.pdf  I think this is the link but not sure if it works

Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
He said those are posted at all the road blocks north of 20 and west side of kettle crest.. No road blocks or signs on south side of 20 on the east side of pass
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: UptheCreek on August 25, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
Good to know
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 25, 2015, 08:47:36 PM
Hmm. I went to Colville last Saturday and ALL the roads on the west side of Sherman and on the south roads had trucks parked there to keep people out. The roads up on 21 just have signs telling us what evac levels each road is.

Basically, if you're smart, stay away from here. We don't need any more problems with hunters causing them.  :bash:

Same with Okanogan and Stevens Counties too.... :bash:


I don't think some of you know or understand, we have close to 60,000 acres on fire in the north half, if you guys know what that means.
That is the north half of Ferry County, NOT including the Colville Tribes North Star fire of nearly 150,000 acres.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Quackwhacker on August 25, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
Guess it's good that I changed my plans this year. Praying for rain.

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Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: baldopepper on August 25, 2015, 09:25:11 PM
Hmm. I went to Colville last Saturday and ALL the roads on the west side of Sherman and on the south roads had trucks parked there to keep people out. The roads up on 21 just have signs telling us what evac levels each road is.

Basically, if you're smart, stay away from here. We don't need any more problems with hunters causing them.  :bash:

Same with Okanogan and Stevens Counties too.... :bash:


I don't think some of you know or understand, we have close to 60,000 acres on fire in the north half, if you guys know what that means.
That is the north half of Ferry County, NOT including the Colville Tribes North Star fire of nearly 150,000 acres.
kind of a catch 22 over that way.  Businesses could use hunters/tourist money, but the area certainly doesn't need the extra pressure of hunters and hunting camps in the area.  If you aren't over there to see what's going on you have to understand the sense of trauma and stress that even those not in immediate danger are feeling.  The intense smoke creates  a feeling of gloom and doom and virtually everyone  has been personally effected or has family or friends who have.  I won't say don't go over, but I would say that you need to be sensitive to what is really a major disaster in the NE corner. Hunters sneaking into closed areas or onto closed roads or thinking they gotta have a campfire are just one more problem that the area certainly doesn't need.  There are plenty of places in the state to go that aren't effected, and I'd recommend taking a good look at them.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 25, 2015, 09:31:34 PM
Thanks baldopepper. We do need the economy, but we need our lives and towns more.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 25, 2015, 09:32:04 PM
I know I will probably take some heat for this but I almost hope people just decide to skip the hunting this year. Spend the time helping people rebuild and prepare for the winter instead.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
 :dunno:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 09:36:21 PM
Helping people rebuild what? and use our own money? thats what insurance is for! Most of whats burning in ferry is far away from homes..its burning vast mountain areas right now.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Brazz on August 25, 2015, 09:40:07 PM
How far could you get up on Hwy 20? Could you get to Sherman? I know three different fires in Ferry. One Graves Mnt is right adjacent to Hwy 20 before Sherman. The link provided by Upthecreek....works and shows closers and reasoning. So west of south Sherman is open, but I do know that a fire is right up to Lane Creek which is east of the closed area.ni would stay away until things get better in about a month.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Turner89 on August 25, 2015, 10:02:10 PM
Johnathan S it's funny that you mentioned Late season Whittail hunting in Unit 101...there is no late season firearm  hunting in 101, what late season whitetail hunting do you do there?
He said, he late archery hunts there. I don't believe he said anything about late mf in 101.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 25, 2015, 10:03:33 PM
Helping people rebuild what? and use our own money? thats what insurance is for! Most of whats burning in ferry is far away from homes..its burning vast mountain areas right now.
Never mind, if you don't already see it then it would take to long to explain it to you
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 10:22:28 PM
Helping people rebuild what? and use our own money? thats what insurance is for! Most of whats burning in ferry is far away from homes..its burning vast mountain areas right now.
Never mind, if you don't already see it then it would take to long to explain it to you

NO need to explain..weird mentality. I am not hunting this year cause I feel bad for others..hell you could feel bad for others everyday of you life!
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 25, 2015, 11:04:21 PM
Helping people rebuild what? and use our own money? thats what insurance is for! Most of whats burning in ferry is far away from homes..its burning vast mountain areas right now.
Never mind, if you don't already see it then it would take to long to explain it to you

NO need to explain..weird mentality. I am not hunting this year cause I feel bad for others..hell you could feel bad for others everyday of you life!
I guess your not seeing the big picture that I am seeing hunt. But your right.....they all have insurance so they should be fine, no need to worry about or lend a helping hand.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 25, 2015, 11:39:33 PM
And once again this could go on everyday of your life with some tragedy that happens everyday around the world. you better start working more and sell all your hunting stuff and start helping others...maybe a trip to africa is next to help starving kids on your dime.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: lonedave on August 25, 2015, 11:55:12 PM
So, I wonder how this will affect the ten of us with OIL moose tags?  Hopefully they don't just close off access to all of 101, especially if no fires get going south of 20.  I know my fingers are crossed.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: spin05 on August 26, 2015, 02:40:28 AM
That only says its closed for now. That doesnt mean it wont be open during hunting season.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: huntnnw on August 26, 2015, 04:35:41 AM
The forester said the north half wont be open thru the end of this year
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 26, 2015, 07:07:32 AM
Vulcan Mtn, Empire Lake have no fires, yet ! Hopefully never. You can drive from Republic to Danville on highway 21. The ore trucks are still hauling out of the gold mine in the 204 unit. It's so smoky here, you might see 3-500 yards, then you can barely see anything..
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 26, 2015, 07:15:01 AM
In a way not sure I'm real anxious to see whats left either. Just a blackened landscape
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 26, 2015, 07:27:06 AM
In a way not sure I'm real anxious to see whats left either. Just a blackened landscape


My rancher buddy has been all over Aeneas Creek near Malo, looking for his cows and say's it's like a moonscape, eerie looking.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: bhawley76 on August 26, 2015, 07:46:25 AM
Went up Boulder yesterday with the forest service it looks like a bomb went off just past first creek to bulldog cabin, not good.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 26, 2015, 08:11:18 AM
And once again this could go on everyday of your life with some tragedy that happens everyday around the world. you better start working more and sell all your hunting stuff and start helping others...maybe a trip to africa is next to help starving kids on your dime.
Drama much???? I'm sure glad I don't have you as a neighbor.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 26, 2015, 08:15:50 AM
Sorry your right, read his post again he did say archery.

No points for you, get out of my kitchen.  ;)

And once again this could go on everyday of your life with some tragedy that happens everyday around the world. you better start working more and sell all your hunting stuff and start helping others...maybe a trip to africa is next to help starving kids on your dime.
Drama much???? I'm sure glad I don't have you as a neighbor.

He's never around...he goes hunting  :peep:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Southpole on August 26, 2015, 08:22:20 AM
Fortunately, our place in Curlew hasn't been effected by the fires. However, I'm still not making any big plans to hunt deer there. Like last year, we'll focus more on predator hunting, maybe snag a bear or 2. It's hard to get excited to hunt deer over there, not only just to leave the stressed out deer alone, but there's plenty good hunting here at home. We got drawn for late buck permits for the Sauk, so we'll be focusing on that. We also have a steer and a hog heading for the freezer in a couple of months, so one more reason not to worry about filling the freezer with deer meat.

Like campmeat and baldopepper mentioned, I don't think people realize the severity of what's going on there. If you can help it, it would be wise to make other plans that includes a unit that isn't half burned up.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 26, 2015, 09:56:12 AM
http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/colville/alerts-notices (http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/colville/alerts-notices)

Date(s): Aug 25, 2015


Contact(s): Fire Information Center 509-684-7263, 509-684-7261, 509-684-7260

Colville National Forest land north of State Route 20, west of State Highway 21, South of the Canadian border and east of the Okanogan Forest Boundary is temporally closed to public access until further notice due to fire suppression activities and large fire activity.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 26, 2015, 10:08:38 AM
Fortunately, our place in Curlew hasn't been effected by the fires. However, I'm still not making any big plans to hunt deer there. Like last year, we'll focus more on predator hunting, maybe snag a bear or 2. It's hard to get excited to hunt deer over there, not only just to leave the stressed out deer alone, but there's plenty good hunting here at home. We got drawn for late buck permits for the Sauk, so we'll be focusing on that. We also have a steer and a hog heading for the freezer in a couple of months, so one more reason not to worry about filling the freezer with deer meat.

Like campmeat and baldopepper mentioned, I don't think people realize the severity of what's going on there. If you can help it, it would be wise to make other plans that includes a unit that isn't half burned up.



Hopefully this will work.  Found some photos from inside the fire.

http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/photograph/4536/5/46428/

http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/photograph/4536/6/
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: steeliedrew on August 26, 2015, 10:54:29 AM
can somebody please tell me why WDFW isn't emailing everyone about this? You'd think that with the season right around the corner, the state should notify license holders to steer clear of closed areas whether it's WDFW owned land or National Forest land.  I hadn't heard about this Sherman closure until I saw this thread today.  How many people will drive 6 hours over there and find out they don't have access? Yes, the majority checks on access before they leave home but not everyone...

Thanks  :tup:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: bobcat on August 26, 2015, 11:00:32 AM
I would guess that the WDFW will put out some sort of news release warning hunters to verify their hunting areas are open. They usually do. Archery deer season is still a week away.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Buckmark on August 26, 2015, 11:47:54 AM
Might as well put unit 204 in the mix with 101.

CLOSURES:
Okanogan – Wenatchee National Forests closure east of Tonasket and south of highway 20.

That part of 204 south of hwy 20 is for the sake of argument either burned or currently burning, thats basically the whole southern part of that unit that is destroyed, would not surprise me if the north part (north of hwy 20) of 204 is also closed down soon....
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Hunt4ever on August 26, 2015, 11:55:47 AM
And once again this could go on everyday of your life with some tragedy that happens everyday around the world. you better start working more and sell all your hunting stuff and start helping others...maybe a trip to africa is next to help starving kids on your dime.
Drama much???? I'm sure glad I don't have you as a neighbor.

Wish he was my neighbor so I could tail him to his trailcams!   :chuckle:

In the event the closures do happen would they allow people to walk in on foot from the gates or closed roads? Or would it just be a blanket "no entry"?
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 26, 2015, 12:41:25 PM
And once again this could go on everyday of your life with some tragedy that happens everyday around the world. you better start working more and sell all your hunting stuff and start helping others...maybe a trip to africa is next to help starving kids on your dime.
Drama much???? I'm sure glad I don't have you as a neighbor.

Wish he was my neighbor so I could tail him to his trailcams!   :chuckle:

In the event the closures do happen would they allow people to walk in on foot from the gates or closed roads? Or would it just be a blanket "no entry"?
Nah, he clearly doesn't give a rat's behind about anyone but himself. I want neighbor's who will look out for their neighbor's.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 26, 2015, 12:47:35 PM
can somebody please tell me why WDFW isn't emailing everyone about this? You'd think that with the season right around the corner, the state should notify license holders to steer clear of closed areas whether it's WDFW owned land or National Forest land.  I hadn't heard about this Sherman closure until I saw this thread today.  How many people will drive 6 hours over there and find out they don't have access? Yes, the majority checks on access before they leave home but not everyone...

Thanks  :tup:

Why should they email you?
Doesn't everyone have Facebook?

Or you can go to the WDFW facebook for free.

Perhaps this will be where they post it.

https://www.facebook.com/WashingtonFishWildlife
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: bentley30-06 on August 26, 2015, 01:01:33 PM
So my dad's bighorn sheep hunt in Vulcan Mountain is probably screwed
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Buckmark on August 26, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
So my dad's bighorn sheep hunt in Vulcan Mountain is probably screwed
For now it appears to be the case, when is his hunt?
If a fire happens on Vulcan it will be a new fire, the ones currently burning i don't see making it that far, but then as of right now who knows.. and if they do make it that far your dads sheep hunt is not the only thing that would be screwed..
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 26, 2015, 01:06:52 PM
Only if they Hooked a hitch on Vulcan and drug it into 101 and out of 204!
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 26, 2015, 01:21:56 PM
Only if they Hooked a hitch on Vulcan and drug it into 101 and out of 204!

Hate to burst your bubble but Vulcan Mtn. is smack dab in the middle of 101 and in the current closure area.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 26, 2015, 01:31:46 PM
 :sry:

It is west of Hiway 21 which I still believe is the closure boundary.

I usually don't have to go that far into Western Washington to hunt!   :chuckle:

Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Buckmark on August 26, 2015, 01:33:40 PM
Only if they Hooked a hitch on Vulcan and drug it into 101 and out of 204!

Hate to burst your bubble but Vulcan Mtn. is smack dab in the middle of 101 and in the current closure area.
You are correct, i always get confused due to the river being the boundry between 204 and 101.
Now Vulcan is not in the middle of 101, it is the North west corner of the unit. And i did not see that as part of the closure, but could be mistaken on that..
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 26, 2015, 01:34:02 PM
Vulcan is North of 20 and west of 21.  NW of the town of Curlew
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 26, 2015, 01:34:35 PM
http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/colville/alerts-notices (http://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/colville/alerts-notices)

Date(s): Aug 25, 2015


Contact(s): Fire Information Center 509-684-7263, 509-684-7261, 509-684-7260

Colville National Forest land north of State Route 20, west of State Highway 21, South of the Canadian border and east of the Okanogan Forest Boundary is temporally closed to public access until further notice due to fire suppression activities and large fire activity.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: KFhunter on August 26, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
Hmm. I went to Colville last Saturday and ALL the roads on the west side of Sherman and on the south roads had trucks parked there to keep people out. The roads up on 21 just have signs telling us what evac levels each road is.

Basically, if you're smart, stay away from here. We don't need any more problems with hunters causing them.  :bash:

Same with Okanogan and Stevens Counties too.... :bash:


I don't think some of you know or understand, we have close to 60,000 acres on fire in the north half, if you guys know what that means.
That is the north half of Ferry County, NOT including the Colville Tribes North Star fire of nearly 150,000 acres.
kind of a catch 22 over that way.  Businesses could use hunters/tourist money, but the area certainly doesn't need the extra pressure of hunters and hunting camps in the area.  If you aren't over there to see what's going on you have to understand the sense of trauma and stress that even those not in immediate danger are feeling.  The intense smoke creates  a feeling of gloom and doom and virtually everyone  has been personally effected or has family or friends who have.  I won't say don't go over, but I would say that you need to be sensitive to what is really a major disaster in the NE corner. Hunters sneaking into closed areas or onto closed roads or thinking they gotta have a campfire are just one more problem that the area certainly doesn't need.  There are plenty of places in the state to go that aren't effected, and I'd recommend taking a good look at them.



Remember there's been some instances of looting,  a strange vehicle driving around in closed areas isn't going to go over too well. 
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 26, 2015, 01:54:13 PM
Today I went up Boulder as far as they'd let me. I was stopped by an Army/National Guard soldier. Turn around she said.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on August 26, 2015, 02:00:26 PM
From:
http://wsdotblog.blogspot.com/2015/08/wildfire-closures.html

Wildfire Closures



Thursday, August 20, 2015
 
UPDATED: 9:00 a.m., Aug. 26, 2015.  For the latest wildfire closures check out our travel alerts website.
http://www.wsdot.com/traffic/trafficalerts/

We've updated the fire closure zoomable map with the latest info to help you in planning a trip around the closures.
http://wsdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/Viewer/index.html?appid=9b2cc9dd0d69428093cd8765cd17d5a8

 • SR 21 closed both directions from Bridge Creek Road, milepost 127, to Scatter Creek, milepost 153.
 •All lanes of SR 20 eastbound & westbound are closed from Thornton Creek Rd (milepost 118) to Skagit County Line (milepost 157).
 •SR 20 is closed to traffic in both directions from milepost 210, 3 miles east of Twisp to milepost 223, 10 miles west of Okanogan. Local traffic will be allowed from milepost 204 to milepost 210.
 
Most resources:
 •Find real-time travel alerts, included updated fire closure details, on our website. 
•Wildfire resources from the Governor's office.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Seabass on August 26, 2015, 02:03:22 PM
Helping people rebuild what? and use our own money? thats what insurance is for! Most of whats burning in ferry is far away from homes..its burning vast mountain areas right now.
Never mind, if you don't already see it then it would take to long to explain it to you

NO need to explain..weird mentality. I am not hunting this year cause I feel bad for others..hell you could feel bad for others everyday of you life!
I guess your not seeing the big picture that I am seeing hunt. But your right.....they all have insurance so they should be fine, no need to worry about or lend a helping hand.  :rolleyes:


I'm still confused...how does a person going hunting make him a bad neighbor or selfish person in general. The fire is terrible.....so are tornadoes......AND there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about that. If we sit home and feel concerned for somebody..... does that make us better? I'm confused on how cancelling my hunting plans impacts this fire or anyone near it. If you called me and asked for my help and I declined due to hunting obligations....now you have a beef. Do you know HuntNW? Did you ask for his assistance and he declined?
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2015, 02:20:49 PM
Helping people rebuild what? and use our own money? thats what insurance is for! Most of whats burning in ferry is far away from homes..its burning vast mountain areas right now.
Never mind, if you don't already see it then it would take to long to explain it to you

NO need to explain..weird mentality. I am not hunting this year cause I feel bad for others..hell you could feel bad for others everyday of you life!
I guess your not seeing the big picture that I am seeing hunt. But your right.....they all have insurance so they should be fine, no need to worry about or lend a helping hand.  :rolleyes:


I'm still confused...how does a person going hunting make him a bad neighbor or selfish person in general. The fire is terrible.....so are tornadoes......AND there is absolutely nothing any of us can do about that. If we sit home and feel concerned for somebody..... does that make us better? I'm confused on how cancelling my hunting plans impacts this fire or anyone near it. If you called me and asked for my help and I declined due to hunting obligations....now you have a beef. Do you know HuntNW? Did you ask for his assistance and he declined?
:yeah: I guess you can put me on the bad guy list as well since I'll still be hunting.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 26, 2015, 02:25:48 PM
You don't get the big picture Chris
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Seabass on August 26, 2015, 02:28:20 PM
Explain the big picture then...since some of us don't get it.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2015, 02:29:05 PM
Explain the big picture then...since some of us don't get it.
Explain the big picture then...since some of us don't get it.
You don't get the big picture Chris
  :chuckle:
I am pretty certain that Jon is not being serious.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 26, 2015, 02:29:39 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Seabass on August 26, 2015, 02:31:26 PM
Gotcha...and funny:) I'm personally staying out of the woods for now for fear I might start a fire inadvertently.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2015, 02:33:44 PM
Gotcha...and funny:) I'm personally staying out of the woods for now for fear I might start a fire inadvertently.
I'm hunting deer on private land far from any fire. And I luckily have maybe he only elk tag in the state that won't be affected by fire danger.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: cbond3318 on August 26, 2015, 02:38:10 PM
Gotcha...and funny:) I'm personally staying out of the woods for now for fear I might start a fire inadvertently.

How would you start a fire inadvertently? just curious....
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 26, 2015, 02:39:12 PM
This season will just be one to remember...negatively mostly.  Reminds us all to be thankful for summer rains in the future.

Gotcha...and funny:) I'm personally staying out of the woods for now for fear I might start a fire inadvertently.

Like talking on the cell phone at the gas station...it's only a matter of time  :chuckle:

Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 26, 2015, 02:40:56 PM
Gotcha...and funny:) I'm personally staying out of the woods for now for fear I might start a fire inadvertently.

How would you start a fire inadvertently? just curious....

Catalytic converter is one that I have seen happen.  Of course don't park on tall dead grass and you're fine  :P
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Seabass on August 26, 2015, 02:46:09 PM
Like Johnathon stated....a parked car could easily start a fire if parked in the wrong place. I saw a car start a fire on I-90 just outside of Spokane last week. The guy was dragging something he was unaware of and sparked 4 or 5 small fires on the shoulder and he never even knew it happened.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 26, 2015, 02:49:36 PM
One of the fires started this year was a guy on a lawn mower, Or a fire could start from Target practice getting ready for the season during this dry time of year.

Couple of years ago a person thought it was OK to burn trash in a barrel near Springdale.

I am almost afraid to pass gas.  :chuckle:  Not sure if Fart would make it by the filter's.   

Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: cbond3318 on August 26, 2015, 02:55:43 PM
True, common sense does fall short of many. I guess only seeing it from the way I conduct myself and the things I do while in the forest it is hard to imagine a scenario in which I inadvertently caused a fire. Glad people are seeing this danger and are aware of the possibilities.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Seabass on August 26, 2015, 02:56:37 PM
I'm pretty sure people are greatly underestimating just how dry things are out there!!!! It's unlike any other year we have had in recent history! My best friend is the commander on the Springdale fire and he called me for a minute last Friday morning. He said you simply can't believe just how bad it is right now. He claims he has never seen anything like it.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: steeliedrew on August 26, 2015, 03:50:43 PM
can somebody please tell me why WDFW isn't emailing everyone about this? You'd think that with the season right around the corner, the state should notify license holders to steer clear of closed areas whether it's WDFW owned land or National Forest land.  I hadn't heard about this Sherman closure until I saw this thread today.  How many people will drive 6 hours over there and find out they don't have access? Yes, the majority checks on access before they leave home but not everyone...

Thanks  :tup:

Why should they email you?
Doesn't everyone have Facebook?

Or you can go to the WDFW facebook for free.

Perhaps this will be where they post it.

https://www.facebook.com/WashingtonFishWildlife

Not everyone has Facebook. I do not.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 26, 2015, 03:52:44 PM
Neither do I. But it is a free page you can review!!!


https://www.facebook.com/WashingtonFishWildlife

Be brave Click it!!!

You can't read what everyone says, but you can see the WDFW post's

Here is Ferry County Sheriff also;

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ferry-County-Sheriffs-Office-911/339957886082797
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Caseknife on August 26, 2015, 05:45:16 PM
So basically the only area of 101 that is still open as of right now is south of 20 and east of the crest, gonna be crowded if it stays that way.  Glad I didn't get my moose tag, but that season is still 2 months long, they didn't split it.  Black moose won't stick out in black forest like other animals.

When we have broken the record for fire size 2 years in a row, we have issues.  It is not going to get any better, I wouldn't be surprised if the Okanogan Complex and the Northstar merge before they are contained and out.  Wouldn't want to be living in Republic right now, Colville is close enough.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: KFhunter on August 26, 2015, 05:54:42 PM
Grand Forks British Columbia, Christina lake area just went to level 2 evacuation (equivalent)
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 26, 2015, 07:18:12 PM
I think for what that's worth from 21 east to 395 and from the border south to 20 is closed.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 31, 2015, 07:40:50 AM
Think there is any chance it will open before the weekend with the rain they got and what is predicted?
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 31, 2015, 07:44:14 AM
NOPE

They have said due to the danger to folks from falling snags it will be closed this year. Plain and Simple.

Read Huntnw original post's #1 & 3


I think for what that's worth from 21 east to 395 and from the border south to 20 is closed.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 31, 2015, 07:49:03 AM
I refuse to believe that.  And what falling snags on Vulcan Mtn?  There is no fire there!  I'm referring to this specifically:

Date(s): Aug 25, 2015


Contact(s): Fire Information Center 509-684-7263, 509-684-7261, 509-684-7260

Colville National Forest land north of State Route 20, west of State Highway 21, South of the Canadian border and east of the Okanogan Forest Boundary is temporally closed to public access until further notice due to fire suppression activities and large fire activity.

Forest Order 15-21-08 PDF (1 MB)
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 31, 2015, 10:39:12 AM
Called the Republic Ranger Station and was informed that ALL of Colville National Forest is closed for recreational activities (I.E. Hunting).  There will be no updates until Sep. 12th when they will re-assess the closures.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 11:50:30 AM
Called the Republic Ranger Station and was informed that ALL of Colville National Forest is closed for recreational activities (I.E. Hunting).  There will be no updates until Sep. 12th when they will re-assess the closures.



Lotsa private timberland here, I mean lots, if you know where it is..just sayin'  :dunno:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: tonymiller7 on August 31, 2015, 11:51:52 AM
Called the Republic Ranger Station and was informed that ALL of Colville National Forest is closed for recreational activities (I.E. Hunting).  There will be no updates until Sep. 12th when they will re-assess the closures.



Lotsa private timberland here, I mean lots, if you know where it is..just sayin'  :dunno:

I'll wait until the forest is open.  I have 5 big bucks scouted.  I'm not going anywhere blind
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 12:12:12 PM
Called the Republic Ranger Station and was informed that ALL of Colville National Forest is closed for recreational activities (I.E. Hunting).  There will be no updates until Sep. 12th when they will re-assess the closures.



Lotsa private timberland here, I mean lots, if you know where it is..just sayin'  :dunno:

I'll wait until the forest is open.  I have 5 big bucks scouted.  I'm not going anywhere blind


I wouldn't either. I was just rubbing it in........ :chuckle:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Southpole on August 31, 2015, 12:40:45 PM
Called the Republic Ranger Station and was informed that ALL of Colville National Forest is closed for recreational activities (I.E. Hunting).  There will be no updates until Sep. 12th when they will re-assess the closures.



Lotsa private timberland here, I mean lots, if you know where it is..just sayin'  :dunno:
Hey now  :nono: no private timber land in unit 101... well there is but it's terrible hunting... and there's evil monsters that live in the timber...  :peep:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 12:53:01 PM
Called the Republic Ranger Station and was informed that ALL of Colville National Forest is closed for recreational activities (I.E. Hunting).  There will be no updates until Sep. 12th when they will re-assess the closures.



Lotsa private timberland here, I mean lots, if you know where it is..just sayin'  :dunno:
Hey now  :nono: no private timber land in unit 101... well there is but it's terrible hunting... and there's evil monsters that live in the timber...  :peep:


I bet at least 20,000 acres of it behind my house burned up too...
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Buckmark on August 31, 2015, 01:14:13 PM
Hmm, but can it be accessed without driving on Nat forest roads?
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Firedogg on August 31, 2015, 01:38:45 PM
Hmmm, brother in law's place is up in that area north of Republic near Bodie Mtn. He is on his way back from a job in California. I know it starts out on a county road, Trout Creek Rd. , but it later patchwork crosses NF land.  Are they letting property owners access their place?
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 02:41:34 PM
Hmm, but can it be accessed without driving on Nat forest roads?




Yes, for smoked salmon..
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 02:45:22 PM
Hmmm, brother in law's place is up in that area north of Republic near Bodie Mtn. He is on his way back from a job in California. I know it starts out on a county road, Trout Creek Rd. , but it later patchwork crosses NF land.  Are they letting property owners access their place?


Trout Creek road starts out of Republic into the Colville NF.
I know just about all the property owners out on the south side Toroda Creek road. Is the 204 unit open ? That's the Okanogan NF on the north side of Toroda Creek rd.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Buckmark on August 31, 2015, 02:50:28 PM
Hmmm, brother in law's place is up in that area north of Republic near Bodie Mtn. He is on his way back from a job in California. I know it starts out on a county road, Trout Creek Rd. , but it later patchwork crosses NF land.  Are they letting property owners access their place?


Trout Creek road starts out of Republic into the Colville NF.
I know just about all the property owners out on the south side Toroda Creek road. Is the 204 unit open ? That's the Okanogan NF on the north side of Toroda Creek rd.
So far 204 is open, does toroda not run more or less north and south, so east side/west side of the road??
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 02:57:22 PM
Hmmm, brother in law's place is up in that area north of Republic near Bodie Mtn. He is on his way back from a job in California. I know it starts out on a county road, Trout Creek Rd. , but it later patchwork crosses NF land.  Are they letting property owners access their place?


Trout Creek road starts out of Republic into the Colville NF.
I know just about all the property owners out on the south side Toroda Creek road. Is the 204 unit open ? That's the Okanogan NF on the north side of Toroda Creek rd.
So far 204 is open, does toroda not run more or less north and south, so east side/west side of the road??

The side where the mine is, the Beaver Canyon side. I call that the north side. Geez Frank, I need to show I guess... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Southpole on August 31, 2015, 02:58:56 PM
Bodie Mountain is smack dab in the middle of 101 and 204 or Colville NF and Okanogan NF looking at a map.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 03:10:05 PM
Bodie Mountain is smack dab in the middle of 101 and 204 or Colville NF and Okanogan NF looking at a map.


It certainly is. But, Buckmark was asking about access from private land to timberlands. The land owners I know, their land butts up against Bodie, which is closed.

Bodie got mentioned by Firedog about access for land owners in the CNF. There is no level 3 evac near Republic, so I imagine they cannot keep landowners out.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Ridgeratt on August 31, 2015, 03:19:27 PM
Well Thank Goodness we have finally cleared this up, until someone else tries to come up with a new angle.

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:


I might have to start building an Ark... Start gathering what animals I can find.

Daily Update Kettle Complex August 31, 2015

Incident: Kettle Complex Wildfire
Released: 5 hrs. ago
Showers moved across the Kettle Complex bringing much needed moisture to the fire area. Incident Metorologist Bob Topin reported that the fire received between one-tenth and two-tenths of an inch of precipitation Sunday. Rain showers and cooler than normal temperatures are predicted throughout the rest of this week with a return of sunshine by the end of the weekend.

The rain and the higher humidity have both contributed to slow the spread of the fires. However, the fire area has not received enough moisture to penetrate the larger fuels, and in some cases, the rain has not yet penetrated the forest canopy. Once this cold rainy weather passes, it may only take a few days of warmer temperatures, steady wind and dry weather to bring burning conditions back to the place they were a week ago.



Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Lincoln4 on August 31, 2015, 03:20:28 PM
Called the Republic Ranger Station and was informed that ALL of Colville National Forest is closed for recreational activities (I.E. Hunting).  There will be no updates until Sep. 12th when they will re-assess the closures.

Hmmm, that's not what their website shows.  http://www.fs.usda.gov/colville (http://www.fs.usda.gov/colville)

Temporary closures map.  http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3852325.pdf (http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprd3852325.pdf)

Of course they may just be too busy to update the map...
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Southpole on August 31, 2015, 03:25:41 PM
Bodie Mountain is smack dab in the middle of 101 and 204 or Colville NF and Okanogan NF looking at a map.


It certainly is. But, Buckmark was asking about access from private land to timberlands. The land owners I know, their land butts up against Bodie, which is closed.

Bodie got mentioned by Firedog about access for land owners in the CNF. There is no level 3 evac near Republic, so I imagine they cannot keep landowners out.  :dunno:
Yeah, I was talking about Firedog's conversation.
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 03:49:25 PM
Bodie Mountain is smack dab in the middle of 101 and 204 or Colville NF and Okanogan NF looking at a map.


It certainly is. But, Buckmark was asking about access from private land to timberlands. The land owners I know, their land butts up against Bodie, which is closed.

Bodie got mentioned by Firedog about access for land owners in the CNF. There is no level 3 evac near Republic, so I imagine they cannot keep landowners out.  :dunno:
Yeah, I was talking about Firedog's conversation.


That's what I thought, but, Buckmark changed the subject, sorta. I'll have a talk with him.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Buckmark on August 31, 2015, 04:01:15 PM
Not me, you got side tracked. You commented "Lotsa private timberland here, I mean lots, if you know where it is..just sayin'

and i asked "Hmm, but can it be accessed without driving on Nat forest roads?

and you started talking about smoked salmon, which i found ironic as i was actuallty snaking on some smoked pinks as i was typing... :chuckle:

I think everyone with any inclinking of hunting 101 or 204 should just wait or make other plans....

Camp its ok we all get older..
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: Southpole on August 31, 2015, 04:09:22 PM
Glad we got that out of the way  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: djnoodle on August 31, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
Is the Little Pend Orielle Wildlife Refuge closed?


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Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 04:57:59 PM
Not me, you got side tracked. You commented "Lotsa private timberland here, I mean lots, if you know where it is..just sayin'

and i asked "Hmm, but can it be accessed without driving on Nat forest roads?

and you started talking about smoked salmon, which i found ironic as i was actuallty snaking on some smoked pinks as i was typing... :chuckle:

I think everyone with any inclinking of hunting 101 or 204 should just wait or make other plans....

Camp its ok we all get older..



I'm multi-tasking...
Title: Re: Unit 101.. If you hunt there or plan to.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on August 31, 2015, 04:58:47 PM
Is the Little Pend Orielle Wildlife Refuge closed?


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