Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on September 07, 2015, 11:43:11 AM
Post by: JakeLand on September 07, 2015, 12:12:41 PM
Post by: highside74 on September 07, 2015, 12:49:12 PM
Way to go. Beautiful buck! :tup:
New archery equipment is amazing. I love up and close but when you make a great shot on an animal at 60 plus it is very cool. :archery_smiley:
Post by: Dan-o on September 07, 2015, 01:02:55 PM
That is a stud buck for sure.
Post by: kodiak 907 on September 07, 2015, 01:28:48 PM
Holy cow that's a pig of a blacktail, congrats man what a beauty.
I might be mistaken, but isn't that a Muley Buck? Nice deer either way!
Post by: crowinghen on September 07, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Post by: AntlerHound on September 07, 2015, 01:39:08 PM
Post by: mikeymaplevalley on September 07, 2015, 02:36:27 PM
Post by: fishnfur on September 07, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
What's next on your list? Slay a dragon?
Post by: go4itlab on September 07, 2015, 02:37:30 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
I don't know? it is a nice buck but I'm calling *censored* on the 90yd frontal shot and if you choose to shoot it that far and facing you, you deserve to have your bow taken from you and beaten with it.
Sorry I practice every day and am more comfortable at shooting that range than u.. And yes I center punched it... Dad was right there with me.. So please do talk *censored* sorry I don't go by the hunting channel requirements of within 40 yards lol
Post by: fishnfur on September 07, 2015, 02:41:39 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on September 07, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 02:45:44 PM
Dandy buck Billdo!!!! Damn good shooting! :tup:
Thank u and in the pic I'm a little down because I took the 12th thru the 20th off of work but now I might as well just work...
Post by: highside74 on September 07, 2015, 04:15:56 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on September 07, 2015, 04:27:42 PM
Post by: westside bull on September 07, 2015, 05:01:41 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 05:54:43 PM
So is it a Blacktail or Muley? Either way great buck.Hybrid... Black tail mule cross...
Post by: BullMagnet76 on September 07, 2015, 06:25:56 PM
Post by: predatorG on September 07, 2015, 06:31:57 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 06:45:29 PM
A cross? I don't know a ton but that looks quite a bit like a muley to me... great shot and great buck though.Almost all the Bucks over there are crosses... Hard to find a pure mule in that area now a days..
Post by: coachcw on September 07, 2015, 06:53:19 PM
Post by: gavinboone on September 07, 2015, 07:01:17 PM
Post by: Thehowler on September 07, 2015, 07:01:36 PM
Post by: Hoythunter on September 07, 2015, 07:11:29 PM
90 yard frontal? That's just dumb. Sorry.
Post by: kodiak 907 on September 07, 2015, 07:16:47 PM
So is it a Blacktail or Muley? Either way great buck.Hybrid... Black tail mule cross...
Looks a lot like a Muley. Got a pic of the tail.
Post by: saylean on September 07, 2015, 07:22:01 PM
Post by: curlewkiller on September 07, 2015, 07:50:51 PM
Post by: Turner89 on September 07, 2015, 08:11:49 PM
Post by: gman on September 07, 2015, 08:21:47 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 08:29:34 PM
Nice buck you didn't happen to get that in the 335 unit I saw one like that earlier in the weekThat's a possibility...
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on September 07, 2015, 08:30:28 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 08:31:58 PM
What is with calling the guy out on his shot. What is ethical for you and your skills is not necessarily ethical for another hunter. Obviously, by the damage and the blood and yardage after the kill, it was ethical. Proof is in the shot and how quickly the animal died. Jeez, it is a great deer and a hell of a shot. This is no different than long range shots with rifles. I would never dream of a shot over 300 yards, I am not comfortable, nor do I practice enough for that shot, but there are plenty of hunters that make shots way past that. :dunno:Let them say what they want... I make them look like idiots every year when they criticize me... Love to see them post their kills... :dunno: :chuckle:
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 08:33:56 PM
Very nice buck, congrats. You posted the distance you chose to shoot on a public forum so responses are quid pro quo I figure. You ranged that animal at 90 yards and decided to take a high odds chance at wounding him? Ridiculous. You were very, very lucky, plain and simple to put an arrow in a softball size kill zone at that distance.When u group a paper plate at 90 yards then maybe u could do it... U just need some practice I guess :tup:
Or u just live in the city and can't shoot that far in ur back yard if u have one :chuckle:
Post by: Seabass on September 07, 2015, 08:40:49 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on September 07, 2015, 08:49:03 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 08:53:58 PM
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on September 07, 2015, 09:13:26 PM
Very nice buck, congrats. You posted the distance you chose to shoot on a public forum so responses are quid pro quo I figure. You ranged that animal at 90 yards and decided to take a high odds chance at wounding him? Ridiculous. You were very, very lucky, plain and simple to put an arrow in a softball size kill zone at that distance.When u group a paper plate at 90 yards then maybe u could do it... U just need some practice I guess :tup:
Or u just live in the city and can't shoot that far in ur back yard if u have one :chuckle:
No, I have never lived in a city and do not now. Sure, I practice out to 60 yards for the possibility of an opportunistic second shot on my property in the country. I'm sure you are "very" aware of what can and oftentimes happens while an arrow is in flight at even 40 or less yards to a previously stationary big game animal. Hitting a paper plate at 40 or even 90 yards does not guarantee success every time on a hunt. After nearly 40 years of bow hunting, I know this. Big game critters seemingly decide to take a step, flinch, or whatever many times right at the second we touch off an arrow. Long range shooting is risky to say the least. Those who think otherwise more than likely, wound more than they care to admit. I'm not that hungry that I'm willing to take those chances. Just my old Hunter thoughts. Again, congrats on a very nice buck.
Post by: jackelope on September 07, 2015, 09:25:53 PM
You won't be able to tell this kid anything, Phantom. He knows everything. I call that a lucky shot. You can hit a paper plate at 90 yards. Great. You can't reliably hit a potentially moving target at 90 yards. Who knows what that deer's going to do in the time it takes that arrow to reach its target. If you're going to shoot that far you should just use a rifle.Very nice buck, congrats. You posted the distance you chose to shoot on a public forum so responses are quid pro quo I figure. You ranged that animal at 90 yards and decided to take a high odds chance at wounding him? Ridiculous. You were very, very lucky, plain and simple to put an arrow in a softball size kill zone at that distance.When u group a paper plate at 90 yards then maybe u could do it... U just need some practice I guess :tup:
Or u just live in the city and can't shoot that far in ur back yard if u have one :chuckle:
No, I have never lived in a city and do not now. Sure, I practice out to 60 yards for the possibility of an opportunistic second shot on my property in the country. I'm sure you are "very" aware of what can and oftentimes happens while an arrow is in flight at even 40 or less yards to a previously stationary big game animal. Hitting a paper plate at 40 or even 90 yards does not guarantee success every time on a hunt. After nearly 40 years of bow hunting, I know this. Big game critters seemingly decide to take a step, flinch, or whatever many times right at the second we touch off an arrow. Long range shooting is risky to say the least. Those who think otherwise more than likely, wound more than they care to admit. I'm not that hungry that I'm willing to take those chances. Just my old Hunter thoughts. Again, congrats on a very nice buck.
:twocents:
Post by: huntnnw on September 07, 2015, 09:27:06 PM
Dang nice buc!
90 yard frontal? That's just dumb. Sorry.
:yeah:
I give 2 craps what you practice that deer coulda turned and ended up wounded there are things you cannot control with no matter how much practice at that range. How many have you wounded with shots like that..that none of us know about just the post on the successful shot.
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 09:38:34 PM
You can talk whatever crap u want but all it does is make u look jealous... truth is 10% of the hunters on here kill 90% of the animals and u fall in the 90% that kill the 10% so hate all you want please.. Makes me feel even better about myself :dunno: :chuckle: :tup: :IBCOOL:
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 09:52:56 PM
Jackleope im not using a bow that shoots under 300fps... shooting 342 fps :sry:You won't be able to tell this kid anything, Phantom. He knows everything. I call that a lucky shot. You can hit a paper plate at 90 yards. Great. You can't reliably hit a potentially moving target at 90 yards. Who knows what that deer's going to do in the time it takes that arrow to reach its target. If you're going to shoot that far you should just use a rifle.Very nice buck, congrats. You posted the distance you chose to shoot on a public forum so responses are quid pro quo I figure. You ranged that animal at 90 yards and decided to take a high odds chance at wounding him? Ridiculous. You were very, very lucky, plain and simple to put an arrow in a softball size kill zone at that distance.When u group a paper plate at 90 yards then maybe u could do it... U just need some practice I guess :tup:
Or u just live in the city and can't shoot that far in ur back yard if u have one :chuckle:
No, I have never lived in a city and do not now. Sure, I practice out to 60 yards for the possibility of an opportunistic second shot on my property in the country. I'm sure you are "very" aware of what can and oftentimes happens while an arrow is in flight at even 40 or less yards to a previously stationary big game animal. Hitting a paper plate at 40 or even 90 yards does not guarantee success every time on a hunt. After nearly 40 years of bow hunting, I know this. Big game critters seemingly decide to take a step, flinch, or whatever many times right at the second we touch off an arrow. Long range shooting is risky to say the least. Those who think otherwise more than likely, wound more than they care to admit. I'm not that hungry that I'm willing to take those chances. Just my old Hunter thoughts. Again, congrats on a very nice buck.
:twocents:
Post by: Limhangerslayer on September 07, 2015, 09:53:44 PM
Well thx for ur opinion my father has also been hunting for 40 years and he shot his buck last year at 93 yards... And he used to hunt instinctive recurve just like me... His last bow was bill Stuart's last bowever made that he named the deerslayer for my dad.. As time change so does technology and the capability of shooting farther distances if u don't like that I'm sorry.. and huntnnw i dont care about ur opinion at all lol...You're exactly right *censored* if i was huntnnw i would be jealous, I'm sure you saw that little dink he shot this year! :chuckle:
You can talk whatever crap u want but all it does is make u look jealous... truth is 10% of the hunters on here kill 90% of the animals and u fall in the 90% that kill the 10% so hate all you want please.. Makes me feel even better about myself :dunno: :chuckle: :tup: :IBCOOL:
Post by: huntnnw on September 07, 2015, 09:54:58 PM
Im still looking for my first archery buck
Post by: h2ofowlr on September 07, 2015, 09:55:10 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 09:55:43 PM
LMAO.. :chuckle: With those big bucks sometimes u cant get within 60 yards... That is why they are that big... :bash:Well thx for ur opinion my father has also been hunting for 40 years and he shot his buck last year at 93 yards... And he used to hunt instinctive recurve just like me... His last bow was bill Stuart's last bowever made that he named the deerslayer for my dad.. As time change so does technology and the capability of shooting farther distances if u don't like that I'm sorry.. and huntnnw i dont care about ur opinion at all lol...You're exactly right *censored* if i was huntnnw i would be jealous, I'm sure you saw that little dink he shot this year! :chuckle:
You can talk whatever crap u want but all it does is make u look jealous... truth is 10% of the hunters on here kill 90% of the animals and u fall in the 90% that kill the 10% so hate all you want please.. Makes me feel even better about myself :dunno: :chuckle: :tup: :IBCOOL:
Post by: C-Money on September 07, 2015, 09:59:06 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 10:01:05 PM
Seems like you had another entertaining thread on here last year, maybe two years ago? Something to read I guess. Very nice buck, Congrats.Every year 8)
Post by: blacktail luv on September 07, 2015, 10:12:24 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 07, 2015, 10:16:04 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 07, 2015, 10:32:29 PM
I pray every year Bildo kills something so I can be entertained by his B.S. 90 yard frontal shot is retarded but I thoroughly enjoyed the comments. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Bildo exaggerates the truth at times...carry on.No reason to lie... 90 yards dead smack in the middle of his chest... think or say what u want... dont care :tup:
Oh and u dont have to pray im 12/12 now.. hahahaha :dunno: The blue jeans give it away.. no way in hell i was getting any closer haha
Post by: Mossyoak on September 07, 2015, 11:32:48 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on September 08, 2015, 06:15:03 AM
Screw work, it's fishing season!!!!Dandy buck Billdo!!!! Damn good shooting! :tup:
Thank u and in the pic I'm a little down because I took the 12th thru the 20th off of work but now I might as well just work...
Post by: Eli346 on September 08, 2015, 07:47:00 AM
Post by: kodiak 907 on September 08, 2015, 08:46:56 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 08, 2015, 08:53:09 AM
Jackleope im not using a bow that shoots under 300fps... shooting 342 fps :sry:You won't be able to tell this kid anything, Phantom. He knows everything. I call that a lucky shot. You can hit a paper plate at 90 yards. Great. You can't reliably hit a potentially moving target at 90 yards. Who knows what that deer's going to do in the time it takes that arrow to reach its target. If you're going to shoot that far you should just use a rifle.Very nice buck, congrats. You posted the distance you chose to shoot on a public forum so responses are quid pro quo I figure. You ranged that animal at 90 yards and decided to take a high odds chance at wounding him? Ridiculous. You were very, very lucky, plain and simple to put an arrow in a softball size kill zone at that distance.When u group a paper plate at 90 yards then maybe u could do it... U just need some practice I guess :tup:
Or u just live in the city and can't shoot that far in ur back yard if u have one :chuckle:
No, I have never lived in a city and do not now. Sure, I practice out to 60 yards for the possibility of an opportunistic second shot on my property in the country. I'm sure you are "very" aware of what can and oftentimes happens while an arrow is in flight at even 40 or less yards to a previously stationary big game animal. Hitting a paper plate at 40 or even 90 yards does not guarantee success every time on a hunt. After nearly 40 years of bow hunting, I know this. Big game critters seemingly decide to take a step, flinch, or whatever many times right at the second we touch off an arrow. Long range shooting is risky to say the least. Those who think otherwise more than likely, wound more than they care to admit. I'm not that hungry that I'm willing to take those chances. Just my old Hunter thoughts. Again, congrats on a very nice buck.
:twocents:
^ Mods...shouldn't this be in "Jokes"?
Nice buck Billdo
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 08:54:45 AM
I'm surprised this one isn't locked yet. With all of the smack talk goin on.Well when an admin is also talking smack they tend not to lock it lol...
He talks smack I will to... The only difference is I can get banned he can't lol..
Post by: jackelope on September 08, 2015, 08:55:52 AM
I'm surprised this one isn't locked yet. With all of the smack talk goin on.Well when an admin is also talking smack they tend not to lock it lol...
It's your thread. If you want it locked, just say so.
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 08:57:20 AM
lol love hypocritesI'm surprised this one isn't locked yet. With all of the smack talk goin on.Well when an admin is also talking smack they tend not to lock it lol...
It's your thread. If you want it locked, just say so.
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 08, 2015, 09:00:46 AM
Post by: mburrows on September 08, 2015, 09:05:22 AM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 09:06:11 AM
Ive seen that red samurai running around loaded with guys many times before... Not my style of hunting but they do shoot deer every year. Nice muley.Don't have a samurai... And we four wheeled out to it...
Post by: mburrows on September 08, 2015, 09:12:58 AM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 09:18:14 AM
The pictures u posted sure look like the front bumper of a samurai to me not a 4-wheeler. My bad if i am mistaken.Geo bro lol... And we all stay at my property then we go and drop people off periodically at landing then round everyone up later...
Post by: Limhangerslayer on September 08, 2015, 09:21:54 AM
How far did you for wheel out to it? About 90 yards? :chuckle:Ive seen that red samurai running around loaded with guys many times before... Not my style of hunting but they do shoot deer every year. Nice muley.Don't have a samurai... And we four wheeled out to it...
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 09:24:28 AM
About 200 lol :chuckle:How far did you for wheel out to it? About 90 yards? :chuckle:Ive seen that red samurai running around loaded with guys many times before... Not my style of hunting but they do shoot deer every year. Nice muley.Don't have a samurai... And we four wheeled out to it...
Post by: vandeman17 on September 08, 2015, 09:39:32 AM
Post by: jackelope on September 08, 2015, 09:47:14 AM
lol love hypocritesI'm surprised this one isn't locked yet. With all of the smack talk goin on.Well when an admin is also talking smack they tend not to lock it lol...
It's your thread. If you want it locked, just say so.
Nothing hypocritical at all. So far, there's no reason to lock it. If you want it locked, I will. Other than that, there's no reason to yet.
Post by: westside bull on September 08, 2015, 09:52:36 AM
Post by: floatinghat on September 08, 2015, 10:28:13 AM
"Ability and ethics should go hand in hand. Even when you are confident of your ability at a given range, extenuating circumstances should always take priority. When cross winds, an animal quartering away too much, or branches in the flight path cause concern, the ethical bowhunter will let down unless a quick, clean kill is certain."
Post by: WAPatriot on September 08, 2015, 10:37:33 AM
Post by: luvmystang67 on September 08, 2015, 10:44:51 AM
Say what you want about a 1000 yard rifle shot, but NOBODY knows what the wind is doing between here and your target, you can only guess. Even a 0.5 MOA rifle shoots a 5" pattern at 1000 without the wind and any twitch of the shooter.
Most people let the rifle shooter off on the "practice" excuse. Most seem not to on the archer.
For the record, I don't personally have a problem with it if you have confidence in your shot and the situation. Especially if you seem to have good luck with it year after year. I'd say the same thing if you had a long proven track record with the Texas heart shot.
Also, most of you must realize that you're pawns in BillDos online entertainment. He's likely beating you at his own game that you're unknowingly participating in.... I think watching this I'm going to take my deer this year and rub blood on its butt and make the same claim from 80 yards just to watch the circus. :chuckle:
Post by: Igor on September 08, 2015, 10:48:25 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on September 08, 2015, 11:01:44 AM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 11:02:17 AM
Post by: notellumcreek on September 08, 2015, 11:14:46 AM
Post by: floatinghat on September 08, 2015, 11:18:43 AM
Lol lets get this thread going!!! I only have an 80 yard pin... Would u like to know where I put it???? Any takers lol
This make it sound like you are just looking for attention, by pimping your own thread.
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 11:20:22 AM
Lol lets get this thread going!!! I only have an 80 yard pin... Would u like to know where I put it???? Any takers lol
This make it sound like you are just looking for attention, by pimping your own thread.
U must be new.. That is the only reason why I get on this forum haha :IBCOOL: :chuckle:
Post by: Rainier10 on September 08, 2015, 11:24:43 AM
I know Billdo likes the drama but here is what I think for the others that actually want to discuss ethics and effective range.
Everyone's ethics and effective range are different. So you took a long shot, you hit what you were aiming at and made a clean kill. Something can go wrong just as easily on a 25 yard shot. We have had guys in our hunting party wound animals at 5 yards, it happens. A new hunter with an effective range of 20 yards can still screw it up.
My guess is most on here would stretch their effective range if that buck was standing in front of them. Maybe only 5 or 10 yards. Whatever their effective range is or ethics say. Maybe they are good out to 50 yards and the buck is at 56 they would still take the shot.
Anyways, ethics and effective range can be argued forever, everyone has a different opinion of each.
I am of the opinion that you shot a great deer and made an awesome shot, I wasn't in your shoes or blue jeans :chuckle: so I don't know what I would have done.
Post by: tgray on September 08, 2015, 11:26:21 AM
Nice buck and nice shooting
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 08, 2015, 11:28:30 AM
80 yard pin right on his nose?
Nice buck and nice shooting
Keep in mind his bow shoots 342 FPS
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 11:32:00 AM
Damn right more like foot under the nose :tup:80 yard pin right on his nose?
Nice buck and nice shooting
Keep in mind his bow shoots 342 FPS
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 11:34:37 AM
Post by: vandeman17 on September 08, 2015, 11:39:29 AM
U know last year I shot mine at 77yards right thru the heart and the buck only went 20 yards and I never got the reaction i am getting now... :dunno:
I think the biggest thing is the facing on shot. 90 yards is a long shot in itself but there are guys who can make that shot and are confident. The margin for error is just so much smaller in the chest so I think that is what the grief is derived from. :twocents:
Post by: buckandbullminingco on September 08, 2015, 11:39:53 AM
You won't be able to tell this kid anything, Phantom. He knows everything. I call that a lucky shot. You can hit a paper plate at 90 yards. Great. You can't reliably hit a potentially moving target at 90 yards. Who knows what that deer's going to do in the time it takes that arrow to reach its target. If you're going to shoot that far you should just use a rifle.Very nice buck, congrats. You posted the distance you chose to shoot on a public forum so responses are quid pro quo I figure. You ranged that animal at 90 yards and decided to take a high odds chance at wounding him? Ridiculous. You were very, very lucky, plain and simple to put an arrow in a softball size kill zone at that distance.When u group a paper plate at 90 yards then maybe u could do it... U just need some practice I guess :tup:
Or u just live in the city and can't shoot that far in ur back yard if u have one :chuckle:
No, I have never lived in a city and do not now. Sure, I practice out to 60 yards for the possibility of an opportunistic second shot on my property in the country. I'm sure you are "very" aware of what can and oftentimes happens while an arrow is in flight at even 40 or less yards to a previously stationary big game animal. Hitting a paper plate at 40 or even 90 yards does not guarantee success every time on a hunt. After nearly 40 years of bow hunting, I know this. Big game critters seemingly decide to take a step, flinch, or whatever many times right at the second we touch off an arrow. Long range shooting is risky to say the least. Those who think otherwise more than likely, wound more than they care to admit. I'm not that hungry that I'm willing to take those chances. Just my old Hunter thoughts. Again, congrats on a very nice buck.
:twocents:
Our camps last 5 elk have all been shot at 80 yards. Clean pass through shots. Killer shot and keep it up bud
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 11:41:56 AM
Post by: _TONY_ on September 08, 2015, 11:47:44 AM
Amen brother.. Young guns are taking over... TRUMP 2016!!! :chuckle:
.....and may god have mercy on our souls.
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 11:51:41 AM
Trump is our God nowAmen brother.. Young guns are taking over... TRUMP 2016!!! :chuckle:
.....and may god have mercy on our souls.
Post by: _TONY_ on September 08, 2015, 11:56:39 AM
I'm thinking you shot that buck at like 20yrds, and told everyone that you shot it at 90yds, just to stir up the hive.
I'm on to you......Billdo.
Carry on.
Post by: jackelope on September 08, 2015, 11:57:24 AM
TBH, I think your just a troll, Billdo.
I'm thinking you shot that buck at like 20yrds, and told everyone that you shot it at 90yds, just to stir up the hive.
I'm on to you......Billdo.
Carry on.
:iamwithstupid:
Post by: tgray on September 08, 2015, 12:03:37 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 12:04:57 PM
TBH, I think your just a troll, Billdo.Swear to god on trumps life lol... My dad was with me so think or say what u want... I have no reason to lie but yes I am a troll 8)
I'm thinking you shot that buck at like 20yrds, and told everyone that you shot it at 90yds, just to stir up the hive.
I'm on to you......Billdo.
Carry on.
Post by: Mxracer532 on September 08, 2015, 12:06:12 PM
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What bow are you shooting and what grain arrow??
(NO WAY IN HELL IS A HUNTING WEIGHT ARROW SHOOTING 342FPS!
(For comparison, my 2015 Xpedition Xcentric is 356ibo. (One of the if not the fastest 6in brace bows on the market) and with my draw 29.5 and a loaded string and a 430grain arrow shoots right at 300fps. So unless your shooting WAY under the legal arrow weight or one of Kevin Strothers 130lb bows your full of *censored*!!!!!!!!
Now as for the shot at 90? Broadside un-alert deer I will take that shot all day long. Frontal obviously looking at you, nope. STUPID!
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 12:09:30 PM
Post by: _TONY_ on September 08, 2015, 12:17:14 PM
Elite archery the envy... The guy at skookum called out my dad so he took it in there... Since we have the same set up and shot 342fps... Amen loser
Yeah, we're going to need your father to confirm these two great achievements with archery equipment.
342fps hunting weight arrow
90yrd rainbow frontal shot
Will not accept hand written letters.
still on to you.
Post by: Mxracer532 on September 08, 2015, 12:18:40 PM
Elite archery the envy... The guy at skookum called out my dad so he took it in there... Since we have the same set up and shot 342fps... Amen loser
HAHA your sooooo full of -*! You obviously dont even know how much your arrows weight. The Envy is a fast bow, but sorry its not that fast.
Come on give us the exact specs mr SELF PROCLAIMED *-*!
Draw weight, arrow weight, Draw length.
Post by: h20hunter on September 08, 2015, 12:20:27 PM
Post by: Mxracer532 on September 08, 2015, 12:20:52 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on September 08, 2015, 12:25:21 PM
I do get a kick out of his reply always being "ask my dad, he does it too"
He's doing something right though, I guess :tup:
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 12:39:35 PM
Post by: Igor on September 08, 2015, 12:39:52 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on September 08, 2015, 12:41:58 PM
For me and keeping my shots under 40 in the field on deer I can say I have had one blacktail jump the string which I didn't recover years ago. Chip shot at 18 yards. In the field anything can happen. So that is my honest experience.
Post by: tgomez on September 08, 2015, 12:44:37 PM
Post by: tgomez on September 08, 2015, 12:46:10 PM
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Lol, hilarious! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on September 08, 2015, 12:46:49 PM
So with that said bildo can I just have an honest answer since I know that you guys do take longer shots. how many animals you've lost in say the last 5 years bow hunting?
Get ready for it..... :chuckle:
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 12:54:08 PM
This is good stuff. Bildo is full of it, always has been but he's also proven he kills better than a lot of guys on this forum so... :dunno:Sad this is I'm not full of it.. But think what u want.. U say the same thing every year :dunno: :chuckle:
I do get a kick out of his reply always being "ask my dad, he does it too"
He's doing something right though, I guess :tup:
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 12:57:51 PM
Post by: Natas5150 on September 08, 2015, 01:02:16 PM
Maybe he is Olympic bow shooter :dunno: and takes that shot every day. Either way who cares. Hats of to you sir! What a monster of a buck! 8)
Post by: tgomez on September 08, 2015, 01:04:12 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 01:05:32 PM
Stop letting people mess with your head. You were their, you know, you made the shot. Who cares what others say. Get some thick skin bro, people will tear ya down if you let em. Keep dropping em young lad!he acts as if I'm getting trolled... Ask Luke miller if anyone knows who that is... He ain't dumb lol... Kind of sad how people get so jealous on this forum about a nice buck being shot at 90 yards lol
Post by: Jonathan_S on September 08, 2015, 01:11:17 PM
I get a rush from close shots, I'm a sucker for broadside and relaxed deer.
So I hear a lot of debate on how long you should shoot. I have my own comfort levels and stick to them. I know an archer can easily screw up a long shot with the smallest little error. But I also know an animal can jump the string up close causing for a bad shot too. So with that said bildo can I just have an honest answer since I know that you guys do take longer shots. how many animals you've lost in say the last 5 years bow hunting?
For me and keeping my shots under 40 in the field on deer I can say I have had one blacktail jump the string which I didn't recover years ago. Chip shot at 18 yards. In the field anything can happen. So that is my honest experience.
You should answer his question... :twocents:
Post by: Mxracer532 on September 08, 2015, 01:12:28 PM
And they quit making the envy because people thought it had to radical of a rollover but that's why it's so fast... :drool:
DUDE, I know about the Envy, I shot Elites before they even hit the market when they were Raw proto types. Right from Kevins hands. (Kevin, being Kevin Strother the guy who started Elite, Strother, K&K, Designed for Blue Mountain Archery, Bowtech, now designs for Obsession & Xpedition. Also owns the arrow flight record) Just FYI..
You keep saying all this crap of ask my daddy, oh ask the guy at skookum ECT ECT........ What guy?? Why cant you tell us the specs of your FASTEST ENVY IN THE WORLD BOW????? Why? Cause your full of *censored*!!!
I dont give 2 *censored*s about how succesful you are. I have been every bit as succesful as you since I started archery hunting. 14 bucks in 15 years and the one year I only hunted one weekend. I hunt all wide open wheat field country and my kills all average over 60 yards. I know the need to stretch the yardage in this country but I (DONT need to stretch the truth or take bad shot angles)
Post by: Woodchuck on September 08, 2015, 01:18:30 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on September 08, 2015, 01:22:06 PM
I was just looking for a answer on success ratio versus failure to show people valid points.
Like me for example. I've shot at 4 deer. Lost one. Because it jumped the string at 18 yards. Close simple chip shot with a failure in the end.
Shot two elk. Got both.
I felt my question was a simple question that could be answered but appears not.
Congrats on the great animals you have harvested over the past few years.
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 01:26:03 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 01:27:03 PM
When does Bildo season start again this season :dunno:Please modify doesnt make sense
Post by: duckmen1 on September 08, 2015, 01:30:26 PM
Post by: Mxracer532 on September 08, 2015, 01:30:58 PM
Post by: xXLojackXx on September 08, 2015, 01:33:54 PM
Post the specs of your hunting set up. Please.
Nice buck.
Post by: westside bull on September 08, 2015, 01:34:41 PM
Stop letting people mess with your head. You were their, you know, you made the shot. Who cares what others say. Get some thick skin bro, people will tear ya down if you let em. Keep dropping em young lad!he acts as if I'm getting trolled... Ask Luke miller if anyone knows who that is... He ain't dumb lol... Kind of sad how people get so jealous on this forum about a nice buck being shot at 90 yards lol
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 01:35:08 PM
Post by: Natas5150 on September 08, 2015, 01:37:04 PM
I could give a *censored* less about you killing the deer at 90 yards. Great on you. ALL I WANNA KNOW IS THE SPECS OF YOUR BOW AND ARROW. If you cant give us that how can anyone believe a damn thing you say???
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MXracer532 why do you care about all that? He showed pics of the buck and told you how he did it. Don't you think that should be enough? Bottom line is he killed the buck. Who care about the rest, why do you need an explanation of the bow. All it would do is open this thread for more ridicule. I think his pics are enough.
Post by: h20hunter on September 08, 2015, 01:38:11 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 01:38:54 PM
Why is that? Cause I obviously know more about the BS your spilling then you do???
I could give a *censored* less about you killing the deer at 90 yards. Great on you. ALL I WANNA KNOW IS THE SPECS OF YOUR BOW AND ARROW. If you cant give us that how can anyone believe a damn thing you say???
MXracer532 why do you care about all that? He showed pics of the buck and told you how he did it. Don't you think that should be enough? Bottom line is he killed the buck. Who care about the rest, why do you need an explanation of the bow. All it would do is open this thread for more ridicule. I think his pics are enough.
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One word... JEALOUS
Post by: Natas5150 on September 08, 2015, 01:40:22 PM
Post by: vandeman17 on September 08, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on September 08, 2015, 01:42:34 PM
If indeed a bow shoots that fast I'd love the specs on one to get one for myself. That's over 80fps faster than my hunting setup.
Post by: cbond3318 on September 08, 2015, 01:43:12 PM
Post by: Mxracer532 on September 08, 2015, 01:44:10 PM
I shouldn't have to give u anything that's the best part... U can't believe another hunters story then constantly proves 90% of the people on this forum the only people that believe me are the 10% that kill 90% of the animals on this forum how ironic hahaha :chuckle:
When you make false claims that you cant back up makes people think everything you say is BS. I never said I didnt believe your story of your shot. Just tell the truth about the bow and the specs. Maybe you dont know???
Trust me im in that so called 10% and could careless that I am.
Post by: Natas5150 on September 08, 2015, 01:46:36 PM
Post by: Mxracer532 on September 08, 2015, 01:47:18 PM
Why is that? Cause I obviously know more about the BS your spilling then you do???
I could give a *censored* less about you killing the deer at 90 yards. Great on you. ALL I WANNA KNOW IS THE SPECS OF YOUR BOW AND ARROW. If you cant give us that how can anyone believe a damn thing you say???
MXracer532 why do you care about all that? He showed pics of the buck and told you how he did it. Don't you think that should be enough? Bottom line is he killed the buck. Who care about the rest, why do you need an explanation of the bow. All it would do is open this thread for more ridicule. I think his pics are enough.
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I dont care about how he killed it. I dont like people who cant be honest about anything. Its a simple ? How much does your hunting arrow weight, Draw weight, Draw length. Simple, gimmie that and Im done. But yet I get called an arrogant moron??? :chuckle:
Post by: tgomez on September 08, 2015, 01:52:53 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 01:53:54 PM
Next time just strap a video camera to your bow. Can't argue with footage... :chuckle: :chuckle:Need to turn on mxracers webcam lol would love to see his red face... U mad bro? Where's ur buck at from this year man? Don't hate the player hate the game
Post by: westside bull on September 08, 2015, 01:56:58 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 01:58:12 PM
Post by: grundy53 on September 08, 2015, 01:58:25 PM
Time to clean this garbage up or lock it. Bringing down the point of a thread. At this rate why would anyone post anything?The garbage IS the point of the thread. The only reason Billdo ever posts anything is to troll. Period. He wants this circus.
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Post by: h20hunter on September 08, 2015, 01:59:28 PM
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 01:59:41 PM
Not entirely true I really enjoy prooving people wrong... It's the ginger in me :IBCOOL:Time to clean this garbage up or lock it. Bringing down the point of a thread. At this rate why would anyone post anything?The garbage IS the point of the thread. The only reason Billdo ever posts anything is to troll. Period. He wants this circus.
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Post by: turbo on September 08, 2015, 02:00:27 PM
Post by: chester on September 08, 2015, 02:00:55 PM
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Post by: Igor on September 08, 2015, 02:01:34 PM
**sigh** grabbing the popcorn for round 2. This thread should be locked and the pics of the buck moved to 2015 deer killed.
If ya don't like the thread, don't read it. Simple, really............................
Post by: Mxracer532 on September 08, 2015, 02:03:29 PM
Mxracer if u have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all... Some peoples kids I swear...Says the guy who called me the moron. HAHA WOW dude ur special.
Dont worry I will post my buck I got Sunday as soon as I get off work. Just for you.
Not entirely true I really enjoy prooving people wrong... It's the ginger in me :IBCOOL:Time to clean this garbage up or lock it. Bringing down the point of a thread. At this rate why would anyone post anything?The garbage IS the point of the thread. The only reason Billdo ever posts anything is to troll. Period. He wants this circus.
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Who are you proving wrong??? Besides yourself since your not willing to tell us the specs of your bow!
Post by: turbo on September 08, 2015, 02:03:56 PM
Hate to say it but I'm just reading through this chuckling to myself. Nice buck billdo! Everything past the first couple posts is just entertainment.
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Exactly.. LMFAO! Keep it going..
Post by: ScottyG on September 08, 2015, 02:04:57 PM
And, here's why I care. My son reads this stuff and he's a pretty good shot. But, you fill his head with feats of grand archery shots and he's going to want to see if he can do it. So, he'll move the target out to 90 yards. He'll figure where he thinks the top of his leveling bubble puts him and that is probably about 80 yards and then just hold a bit higher. And, after a few tries, he'll hit that target at 90 yards. And, he'll probably be better off for practicing at 90 yards when that 90 yard opportunity comes along.
And, 90 yards is possible. But, its more likely that he's going to miss in field conditions. Or, worse, he's going to wound.
So, whether this is a troll post or not, doesn't really matter to me. It was a dang nice buck and I wish that was all that needed to be said or talked about. But, because of threads like this, there are going to be more people than should taking 90 yard shots this year.
You've made my job as a parent just a whee bit harder than it otherwise should of been. Though you may not wound animals because of your superior skills, in your own little way, you may have caused a few animals to be wounded that would not have otherwise simply because you had to tell people that 90 yard center punch frontal shots are the way to get those big bucks.
So, whether you are trolling or telling the truth probably doesn't even matter. I'll give you that threads like this can be entertaining. Just understand that you may be doing harm by telling some archers that 90 yard shots on the big bucks is where its at.
Just something to think about.
Post by: billdo5 on September 08, 2015, 02:05:46 PM