Post by: The scout on September 24, 2015, 08:10:05 PM
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Post by: kentrek on September 24, 2015, 08:28:20 PM
Post by: The scout on September 24, 2015, 08:29:38 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on September 24, 2015, 08:31:23 PM
I take them out of that package and vacuum seal them...i also use there bone in package for my bone out meat...seams I can never have enough room for boned out meatDamn good idea kentrek!
Post by: kentrek on September 24, 2015, 08:35:59 PM
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Post by: jackelope on September 24, 2015, 09:41:46 PM
T.A.G. bags from Pristine Ventures are the best I've found. The Caribou bags are a copy of the T.A.G. bags.
I've got the TAG bags as well. Good stuff. Hopefully I manage to get them bloody at some point.
Post by: Taco280AI on September 24, 2015, 09:41:58 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on September 24, 2015, 09:50:28 PM
T.A.G. bags from Pristine Ventures are the best I've found. The Caribou bags are a copy of the T.A.G. bags.:yeah: My favorite quarter bags. Kifaru meat sacks are without a doubt my favorite boned out meat bags. They are very strong, tubular design, and weigh like an ounce. They say they can hold 100 lbs of meat, but I think closer to 80#.
Post by: scottcrb on September 24, 2015, 10:08:01 PM
T.A.G. bags from Pristine Ventures are the best I've found. The Caribou bags are a copy of the T.A.G. bags.Used em last year and ready for this year again.
Post by: bucksbearsbeers on September 24, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
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Post by: buglebrush on September 25, 2015, 12:06:49 PM
Alaska game bags
:yeah: worked just fine yesterday :IBCOOL:
Post by: KevinClimbs on September 25, 2015, 12:15:31 PM
Post by: hollymaster on September 25, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
Cheap King size pillow cases have worked for me for 25 years
Not the lightest, but definitely heavy duty and cheep at the goodwill. :tup:
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Post by: Twang on January 24, 2016, 12:14:48 AM
Post by: RadSav on January 24, 2016, 01:59:20 AM
Found out early on that you can get more use out of a game bag, like the AGB, by placing your used gloves over the leg bone if packing out quarters with the bone in. That way you don't get the running snags that allow flies to get in. I don't always use gloves unless there is hoof rot, gut shot or I have a cut. But I now carry gloves as much for protecting the bags as I do protecting my hands.
Post by: PlateauNDN on January 24, 2016, 08:55:28 AM
Cheap King size pillow cases have worked for me for 25 years
Not the lightest, but definitely heavy duty and cheep at the goodwill. :tup:
:yeah: that's how I roll
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on January 24, 2016, 04:32:09 PM
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Post by: MtnMuley on January 25, 2016, 01:10:41 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 25, 2016, 01:59:13 PM
Post by: The scout on January 25, 2016, 02:09:19 PM
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 25, 2016, 02:34:05 PM
think I'm going to give those a try this year BLRman, been using the Alaska bags and usually get 2 animals out of a set of bags, for the price they have done well. always bone the meat out. no way I'm packing pillow cases into the backcountry. do you ever see the b.o.m.b bags go on sale?I got mine on sale last summer and it also happened to be the first time I was even able to find them at all. They had a bad run last year too and the seams were popping on them. Luckily mine were good to go. 4 deer and an elk in em and no holes. They are so light weight you wonder how they can hold weight but they do. I used to keep my kill kit in a small or medium (can't remember) kifaru pull out but now it fits in their little mini size pullout. Worth the money for me.
Post by: The scout on January 25, 2016, 02:41:23 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 26, 2016, 03:17:09 PM
B.O.M.B bags hands down if you bone meat out.
Explain to me how they are "hands down" better than the Kifaru meat sacks that are 1oz. and can hold up to 100lbs of boned out meat? :dunno:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 26, 2016, 03:28:30 PM
oh man didn't realize we were having a meat big competition and that my personal opinion needed further explanation.B.O.M.B bags hands down if you bone meat out.
Explain to me how they are "hands down" better than the Kifaru meat sacks that are 1oz. and can hold up to 100lbs of boned out meat? :dunno:
Post by: RadSav on January 26, 2016, 04:14:42 PM
oh man didn't realize we were having a meat big competition and that my personal opinion needed further explanation.B.O.M.B bags hands down if you bone meat out.
Explain to me how they are "hands down" better than the Kifaru meat sacks that are 1oz. and can hold up to 100lbs of boned out meat? :dunno:
Are the B.O.M.B. bags $24.00 each? Aren't they larger than 9"x26"?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 26, 2016, 04:20:44 PM
The ones I got were the B.O.M.B. kit. 4 larger bags for the boned quarters, two grind meat bags, and a small bag for the tenderloins or something along those lines. I'd honestly have to dig through my stuff or google it. I picked em apart and usually only take two quarter bags for a deer hunt or the four quarter bags for elk. If I was hunting bulls i would take all of them but a boned cow or spike will fit in two or three. I know what is trim and what is steaks so I don't worry about the grind meat bags. its all gotta get trimmed up anyways so I just cut on it as it comes out of the bag when I get home. The whole kit was like $50 I think. I'd have to look again.oh man didn't realize we were having a meat big competition and that my personal opinion needed further explanation.B.O.M.B bags hands down if you bone meat out.
Explain to me how they are "hands down" better than the Kifaru meat sacks that are 1oz. and can hold up to 100lbs of boned out meat? :dunno:
Are the B.O.M.B. bags $24.00 each? Aren't they larger than 9"x26"?
Post by: RadSav on January 26, 2016, 04:24:08 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 26, 2016, 04:28:45 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 26, 2016, 04:29:38 PM
http://www.blackovis.com/t-a-g-bags-bomb-pack-game-bag
Post by: Cascade on January 26, 2016, 05:59:01 PM
Sorry here is the link :chuckle:
http://www.blackovis.com/t-a-g-bags-bomb-pack-game-bag
Are these the ones that hit Camofire every once in a while?
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 26, 2016, 06:57:33 PM
I think they have but there is also another brand that has popped up. A buddy ordered a set of brand x so I'll be interested in how they work out. I haven't gotten to see them yet. I got mine from Blackovis.Sorry here is the link :chuckle:
http://www.blackovis.com/t-a-g-bags-bomb-pack-game-bag
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Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 26, 2016, 07:24:55 PM
Super strong, won't rip, very light and it is very slippery.
Post by: coachcw on January 26, 2016, 09:28:18 PM
Post by: kentrek on January 26, 2016, 09:34:49 PM
I always wanted to make some out of cuben fiber.
Super strong, won't rip, very light and it is very slippery.
But how breathable is it ?
Post by: RadSav on January 26, 2016, 10:38:27 PM
I always wanted to make some out of cuben fiber.
Super strong, won't rip, very light and it is very slippery.
But how breathable is it ?
Not very. Tough stuff and crazy light weight. I believe it was originally developed for Connors and the Americas Cup racing team for use as lightweight jib sails.
Post by: Eric M on January 26, 2016, 11:06:36 PM
Don;t know if you noticed, but when you click on the link it shows there is a product recall. Don't know if it applies to you, but i says out of stock until January(?) due to product recall.I think they have but there is also another brand that has popped up. A buddy ordered a set of brand x so I'll be interested in how they work out. I haven't gotten to see them yet. I got mine from Blackovis.Sorry here is the link :chuckle:
http://www.blackovis.com/t-a-g-bags-bomb-pack-game-bag
Are these the ones that hit Camofire every once in a while?
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Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 27, 2016, 05:42:46 AM
I always wanted to make some out of cuben fiber.
Super strong, won't rip, very light and it is very slippery.
But how breathable is it ?
Not very. Tough stuff and crazy light weight. I believe it was originally developed for Connors and the Americas Cup racing team for use as lightweight jib sails.
Actually Bill Koch's A3 syndicate and I remember the first sails done were mains.
It isn't breathable at all and I was thinking of sewng vents in. My main idea was for dragging an animal out of something like a clearcut etc.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 05:43:33 AM
Ya I mentioned that in my first post. Something with the seams on a run of bags. You could literally just bust em open with your hands. Mine were fine, a buddies were not. He had a new set in short order though and they are working hard to replace all the bad bags.Don;t know if you noticed, but when you click on the link it shows there is a product recall. Don't know if it applies to you, but i says out of stock until January(?) due to product recall.I think they have but there is also another brand that has popped up. A buddy ordered a set of brand x so I'll be interested in how they work out. I haven't gotten to see them yet. I got mine from Blackovis.Sorry here is the link :chuckle:
http://www.blackovis.com/t-a-g-bags-bomb-pack-game-bag
Are these the ones that hit Camofire every once in a while?
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Post by: RadSav on January 27, 2016, 06:26:08 AM
Actually Bill Koch's A3 syndicate and I remember the first sails done were mains.
It isn't breathable at all and I was thinking of sewng vents in. My main idea was for dragging an animal out of something like a clearcut etc.
You are probably right about the sails. Been awhile since I read the background. Fascinating that this use of Dyneema and the first uses of Spectra fibers were developed for sailing. Yet we use them every day now in the archery industry.
Great idea about using a bag like that for dragging animals! We used to wrap UHMW sheet around bear to help us drag them out with the Argo. Same base material different configuration. Should work great. Make sure to make we one too! ;) ;)
Post by: kentrek on January 27, 2016, 06:57:29 AM
I always wanted to make some out of cuben fiber.
Super strong, won't rip, very light and it is very slippery.
But how breathable is it ?
Not very. Tough stuff and crazy light weight. I believe it was originally developed for Connors and the Americas Cup racing team for use as lightweight jib sails.
Actually Bill Koch's A3 syndicate and I remember the first sails done were mains.
It isn't breathable at all and I was thinking of sewng vents in. My main idea was for dragging an animal out of something like a clearcut etc.
Sounds like an excellent ground cover type material to lay meat on or use as a shelter...is it really tough enough to work as a drag ? It's just so light
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 27, 2016, 07:05:44 AM
I have an old section of a Groupama gennaker coming from New Zealand to make rifle drag bags from. I may try a game size bag.
Post by: RadSav on January 27, 2016, 07:33:24 AM
Sounds like an excellent ground cover type material to lay meat on or use as a shelter...is it really tough enough to work as a drag ? It's just so light
The Dyneema fibers are cross layered and sandwiched between polyester laminate film. I'm sure the Poly would wear off after awhile, but I would think it should work great until that happens. Suppose a lot depends on how the top layer of fiber is oriented. I'd be happy to test it if you make me one or two. :chuckle:
Don't know if it is true or not, but there was talk of them making a breathable cloth that would be nearly indestructible and act much the same as Gore-Tex. Claim was that it would eliminate flex area leaks in boots, rain jackets and pants, waders and anything else where a Gore-Tex membrane is used. Can't remember the name of it. Something oddball like CubeX4 :dunno: Haven't heard anything about it in a few years, but seemed exciting to have a better than Gore-Tex option.
I'll check in my archives and see if I have that brief from Dyneema.
Post by: Griiz on January 27, 2016, 07:48:36 AM
what are some of your guys's favorite game bags for the backcountry. seems like mixed reviews on most. it will be for elk so I need to be able to hang in tree's with them.
I debone my meat and use old pillow cases for my meat bags. They are light, roll up small and are cheap.
Post by: RadSav on January 27, 2016, 07:52:14 AM
I'll check in my archives and see if I have that brief from Dyneema.
This isn't the one I mentioned. But it is an article from this month with some interesting things to say about the material and has a neat video.
http://backpackinglight.com/cuben-fiber-dyneema-ultralight-film-outdoor-gear-apparel-cottage/
Post by: jay.sharkbait on January 27, 2016, 08:18:15 AM
Sounds like an excellent ground cover type material to lay meat on or use as a shelter...is it really tough enough to work as a drag ? It's just so light
The Dyneema fibers are cross layered and sandwiched between polyester laminate film. I'm sure the Poly would wear off after awhile, but I would think it should work great until that happens. Suppose a lot depends on how the top layer of fiber is oriented. I'd be happy to test it if you make me one or two. :chuckle:
Don't know if it is true or not, but there was talk of them making a breathable cloth that would be nearly indestructible and act much the same as Gore-Tex. Claim was that it would eliminate flex area leaks in boots, rain jackets and pants, waders and anything else where a Gore-Tex membrane is used. Can't remember the name of it. Something oddball like CubeX4 :dunno: Haven't heard anything about it in a few years, but seemed exciting to have a better than Gore-Tex option.
I'll check in my archives and see if I have that brief from Dyneema.
There really isn't anything to wear off. The way it's made makes it Into a monolithic structure. I recall its put under tremendous pressure and heat.
I have probably 50,000 miles of sailing with cuben sails and one of the things it was best at was dealing with chafe.
Some of the lighter material is .3 oz per square yard.
It is a little spendy though.
Post by: kentrek on January 27, 2016, 08:19:58 AM
Post by: rtspring on January 27, 2016, 08:45:34 AM
B.O.M.B bags hands down if you bone meat out.
Explain to me how they are "hands down" better than the Kifaru meat sacks that are 1oz. and can hold up to 100lbs of boned out meat? :dunno:
You better get off my buddy Karl..
Mtn muley!!!.. :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on January 27, 2016, 09:18:37 AM
Maybe it's time for radinc to expand its product diversity....i mean it would be a tax deductible :chuckle:
I've looked at it many times. There is no Federal Excise Tax and half the audits Obama can drop upon us if we were to make packs and/or game bags! But then again - Extreme back country hunters are almost as annoying as Hoyt target shooters. :o
Wonder how many hundreds of requests for free packs and sponsorships Kifaru, Kuiu, Exo Mountain and T.A.G. Bags get per week? If few enough I might actually get all my taxes in on time and keep up on my emails! Maybe I should sell the business and start making packs and bags :chuckle: :chuckle:
Just joking...please don't send more hate mail :tung:
Post by: kentrek on January 27, 2016, 09:45:41 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on January 27, 2016, 11:41:53 AM
oh man didn't realize we were having a meat big competition and that my personal opinion needed further explanation.B.O.M.B bags hands down if you bone meat out.
Explain to me how they are "hands down" better than the Kifaru meat sacks that are 1oz. and can hold up to 100lbs of boned out meat? :dunno:
I didn't know we were either, but if you want to make it out that way then whatever. A simple answer on calling something the hands down best would have been a logical solution to me. I was more or less curious if you've even tried the Kif meat bags and compared them. I own them both and there's no comparison in my opinion. I realize that doesn't mean anything to you, but figured somebody might find that useful when making a purchase.
Post by: rtspring on January 27, 2016, 04:51:28 PM
I think its a ford chevy type deal.. I say fords hands down and you say toyota!! I talked to karl about this last night!! You two are exactly alike and would get along well if you ever met in person!!
Your both great people and whom I like to call my friends..
Its a meat bag for christs sake :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 05:25:52 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 27, 2016, 06:53:26 PM
Meat bags people, meat bags. Let me get kids fed and the wife slapped around and I will do a detailed review of my experiences with Caribou bags, B.O.M.B. bag kits, and kifaru meat bags, both gen 1 and gen 2, complete with pictures.:o
Post by: Eric M on January 27, 2016, 07:59:18 PM
Missed your post. Was just trying to help.Ya I mentioned that in my first post. Something with the seams on a run of bags. You could literally just bust em open with your hands. Mine were fine, a buddies were not. He had a new set in short order though and they are working hard to replace all the bad bags.Don;t know if you noticed, but when you click on the link it shows there is a product recall. Don't know if it applies to you, but i says out of stock until January(?) due to product recall.I think they have but there is also another brand that has popped up. A buddy ordered a set of brand x so I'll be interested in how they work out. I haven't gotten to see them yet. I got mine from Blackovis.Sorry here is the link :chuckle:
http://www.blackovis.com/t-a-g-bags-bomb-pack-game-bag
Are these the ones that hit Camofire every once in a while?
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Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 08:10:26 PM
Roger that :hello:Missed your post. Was just trying to help.Ya I mentioned that in my first post. Something with the seams on a run of bags. You could literally just bust em open with your hands. Mine were fine, a buddies were not. He had a new set in short order though and they are working hard to replace all the bad bags.Don;t know if you noticed, but when you click on the link it shows there is a product recall. Don't know if it applies to you, but i says out of stock until January(?) due to product recall.I think they have but there is also another brand that has popped up. A buddy ordered a set of brand x so I'll be interested in how they work out. I haven't gotten to see them yet. I got mine from Blackovis.Sorry here is the link :chuckle:
http://www.blackovis.com/t-a-g-bags-bomb-pack-game-bag
Are these the ones that hit Camofire every once in a while?
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Post by: biggfish on January 27, 2016, 08:34:03 PM
Post by: The scout on January 27, 2016, 08:44:57 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 08:55:10 PM
As I got more high tech, I went down the path of the Alaska canvas quarter bags. Not quite sure why they call them quarter bags because they will fit all 4 quarters of a deer and half a dang elk. Very durable but bulky and heavy. From there I switched to the caribou bags. Lightweight synthetic material that is very breathable, cut bulk and weight by literally half.
Once I fully realized that quartering animals was kind of pointless as the meat has to come off the bone anyways so you may as well save the space in your pack, the weight on your back, and leave the bones in the woods. I am a full fledged Kifaru nut. I love basically anything and everything kifaru and own a good amount of it. The Gen 2 meat bag worked very well but it was too much bulk and didn't allow for loading my pack the way I wanted to. That being meat down the middle, gear around the meat and underneath.
The original meat bag is a tubular design with a heavy duty nylon handle on the closed end and a draw string on the other. Dimensions are 9x26" The original claim on these was 100 pounds of boned out meat. Fill it up, cinch it shut, and hang it up to cool. Toss it in the pack and no bloody mess. Perfect bag, kifaru nails it again! The first time I used it though, I quickly realized that the 100 pound claim was very false. 70 was what I figured you could get in one if you separated the hind roasts and kept your pieces in manageable sizes. It was hot so I wanted to hang in the shade. I almost dumped all my meat in the dirt but was lucky and caught the slippage as it happened. The cordlock wouldn't hold the weight of the meat and was slipping. No big deal I just threw a knot in it and it was fine. Got blood all over my pack. The seams leaked. Also not a big deal, just add seam sealer. After a few tweeks they were good to go.
Along comes the bomb bags. Ultra light weight. Breathable. Compact. Durable. In my mind the perfect bags. I used them on multiple animals this year, both deer and elk and they ran flawlessly. Material is very durable for as thin and lightweight as it is. I can run a minimal kill kit for deer with two bags or the full kit for elk. There are 4 bags that are a tubular design and are 14x34". Those are for the boned quarters. Two more bags that are 14"20 that are for trim meat. Like I said before, I can run 2 quarter bags for one boned out deer or 4 quarter bags for most size elk. Chasing big bulls I'd toss in the additional trim meat bags.
So to answer a previous question, I prefer the bomb bags over the Kifaru meat bag for multiple reasons. Breathability. The Kifaru material is meant to be waterproof, therefore does not breath. It's very lightweight so it dissipates heat quickly but not like lightweight cloth. Second is cost. Takes two kifaru bags to do a mature buck if you take every scrap like I do. At $25 per bag, that's the same price as a set of 6 bags you get with a bomb kit. If elk is the name of the game you will need 3, 4, or 5 kifaru bags to finish the task. Obviously 5 would be like a huge rosie but you can do the math. Thirdly, I found the 14" opening on the bomb bags to be much easier to wrangle meat into than the 9" opening on the Kifaru bags. Weight is a wash because bag to bag they are virtually the same weight.
Just a side note, since I couldn't remember dimensions on the Kifaru bag and my buddy buckmasterwa still has them from his montana trip I looked at their website for dimensions. Since I bought mine they have changed the description of the bag. They now claim 75lbs of boned meat and now specify that they need to be seam sealed and that knots are the best option for closure as the cordlock will slip under weight. Good to see they clarified all that. I still think 75 is a stretch unless you are really packing it in there with smaller chunks.
I'll follow up with some pictures in a bit. I'm typing this on my phone so I hope I got it all :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 08:58:34 PM
Second pic is two bomb bags, the 14x34 ones next to the other two. Enough to do one deer.
Post by: coachcw on January 27, 2016, 09:01:15 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 09:03:03 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
Second pic is of small holes that form rather easily in the material. Very strong stuff but when it comes to abrasion, they burn up quick.
Third pic is another style of pullout. They are cordura. I went to them for my misc kit that holds all the odds and ends that never leave my pack.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 09:11:39 PM
And for the record, I am in no way saying that the cloth bomb bags are more durable than the kifaru bags. The bomb bags will tear wide open on a sharp rock or branch. The Kifaru material I have found won't run when torn like cloth does which is a big plus.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 27, 2016, 09:12:53 PM
Dude you have issues......lolSo I've been told :chuckle:
Post by: jackelope on January 27, 2016, 11:05:18 PM
there will be a new player in the lightweight hunting equipment game starting tomorrow.....
Do tell....
Post by: RadSav on January 27, 2016, 11:19:31 PM
there will be a new player in the lightweight hunting equipment game starting tomorrow.....
Do tell....
Could this thread have been a marketing ruse?
Post by: grundy53 on January 28, 2016, 04:51:13 AM
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Post by: The scout on January 28, 2016, 08:38:09 PM
there will be a new player in the lightweight hunting equipment game starting tomorrow.....
Do tell....
Could this thread have been a marketing ruse?
not anything to do with marketing, was contacted by viam outdoors after this thread and went over a number of products, seem to be very high quality and local. just knew they were starting a sale on here today as kind of there launch.
Post by: Bmcox86 on January 28, 2016, 08:45:43 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 28, 2016, 08:48:51 PM
I'm lazy, got a link? :chuckle: I love new stuff, especially if it's made in the U.S.A.there will be a new player in the lightweight hunting equipment game starting tomorrow.....
Do tell....
Could this thread have been a marketing ruse?
not anything to do with marketing, was contacted by viam outdoors after this thread and went over a number of products, seem to be very high quality and local. just knew they were starting a sale on here today as kind of there launch.