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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: luvmystang67 on October 01, 2015, 07:41:44 AM
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My tag opens up next week Friday... At this point I'm either borrowing an in-line from a friend or buying a new one.
My .54 hawken would not pattern for anything last night with a lead sled. I put 60 rounds through it over the last couple of days. I had the nipple eject from the gun and hit me in the forehead. I've had a misfire on the first round for all 3 days.
I'm going to take an in-line for this hunt and intend to buy a new one. Anyone know of stores within 60 miles of Everett that have them in stock? Cabelas has...1. Snohomish Fred Meyer has zero. I'm going to do some calling around.
Any help from the masses?
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My tag opens up next week Friday... At this point I'm either borrowing an in-line from a friend or buying a new one.
My .54 hawken would not pattern for anything last night with a lead sled. I put 60 rounds through it over the last couple of days. I had the nipple eject from the gun and hit me in the forehead. I've had a misfire on the first round for all 3 days.
I'm going to take an in-line for this hunt and intend to buy a new one. Anyone know of stores within 60 miles of Everett that have them in stock? Cabelas has...1. Snohomish Fred Meyer has zero. I'm going to do some calling around.
Any help from the masses?
Do you have a Sportsman's Whse. in the area? They carry Knights and the one in Kennewick had Bighorns, DISC Extremes, and even an Ultra-Lite.
Actually if you can find a Sportsman's it might be worth the drive - also get a Vet discount if you are a vet.
Ranch and Home might be another place.
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Thanks Sabotloader. I'll make some calls to see what is worth it.
Not a vet, but thanks for the thought.
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Yeager's in Bellingham usually have a couple.
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Dave's in Lynden had a Bighorn, Dakota creek firearms in Ferndale has a few, and yeah Yeagers should have a couple.
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Adventure Sports in lynnwood near 220th and hwy 99 has wide variety of muzzys and accessories.
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Sportsmans Warehouse in Silverdale but it'll cost ya a ferry ride. :yike:
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I might check out Adventure Sports. They're close.
Anyone have experience with them? Looks like they're a Knight authorized retailer. :tup:
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My tag opens up next week Friday... At this point I'm either borrowing an in-line from a friend or buying a new one.
My .54 hawken would not pattern for anything last night with a lead sled. I put 60 rounds through it over the last couple of days. I had the nipple eject from the gun and hit me in the forehead. I've had a misfire on the first round for all 3 days.
I'm going to take an in-line for this hunt and intend to buy a new one. Anyone know of stores within 60 miles of Everett that have them in stock? Cabelas has...1. Snohomish Fred Meyer has zero. I'm going to do some calling around.
Any help from the masses?
Best deal going right now is here below..... $299 as shown in the link.
http://www.knightrifles.com/product/vision-next-vista-break-action-muzzleloader/ (http://www.knightrifles.com/product/vision-next-vista-break-action-muzzleloader/)
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I might check out Adventure Sports. They're close.
Anyone have experience with them? Looks like they're a Knight authorized retailer. :tup:
Talk to Gary in there, tell him Dan sent you.
Or shoot me a PM, I have a Bighorn or a Blackdiamond XR you could borrow...all ready to go.
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luvmystang67
Unless you are really hooked on a break open then I would suggest to you to pass and look at the DISC with a Western Conversion.
Should be around $500
The Big Horn runs right @ $380
And the Vision at Sportsmans is $250
Remember all of these need to have the Western Conversion for Washington
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I think I'm going to head to Adventure Sports. Looks like they have what I'm looking for.
Knight Bighorn or DISC Extreme?
Or should I go CVA Optima V2?
Any strong opinions? Optima is cheapest, followed by Bighorn and DISC Extreme. What does DISC give me that Bighorn doesn't for the Knight fans?
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I think I'm going to head to Adventure Sports. Looks like they have what I'm looking for.
Knight Bighorn or DISC Extreme?
Or should I go CVA Optima V2?
Any strong opinions? Optima is cheapest, followed by Bighorn and DISC Extreme. What does DISC give me that Bighorn doesn't for the Knight fans?
DISC - constant reliable ignition - more versatile - shoots almost and projectile extremely well - All American made - Green Mountain Stainless barrel - you can use either #11 or Musket caps - even switch to 209's with a conversion kit.
One of the bigger reasons for me is the DISC provides a little better weather protection than does the open breech Bighorn.
But of course the Big Horn will be the same except it is not as versatile...
Both are lifetime guns. So really it comes down to the pocketbook.
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I like to feel the pain once and have my gun go off every time.
I'm going to pick up a DISC extreme I think.
What is an extra hundred bucks in this game?
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Legal in Wa.? :dunno:
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Is the DISC Northwest legal?
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I believe as long as he uses a legal primer it meets the requirements
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Get the Western conversion kit and you are good to go.
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I would go with the disc also. Holiday sports in Burlington carry the Knight's.
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Check out Muzzleloaders.com. They are great. As long as they have what you are looking for, I would bet they would make sure you get your gun ASAP. Last year they shipped me out a replacement rifle just days before the season started. They are members here too user name is Myrtle Creek Inc. Good Luck!
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I am the proud new owner of a knight Big Horn with musket caps. I thought it served all of my purposes for a little bit less than the disc. I got a Williams Peepsight for it as well
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Good choice
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Nice choice have hunted with a bighorn for years with the Williams peep. I love it and have had zero issues!
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Also, shout out to Adventure Sports in Lynnwood, great folks there.
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Is the DISC Northwest legal?
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Yep! with a Western Kit!
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I am the proud new owner of a knight Big Horn with musket caps. I thought it served all of my purposes for a little bit less than the disc. I got a Williams Peepsight for it as well
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Heck! that is a good setup - it will serve you well. The only problem you might have is keeping them dang Musket caps on the nipple - probably have to squeeze them a bit before you put them in the capper. That is why I use #11 Mags. + on the right nipple they become waterproof.
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I am the proud new owner of a knight Big Horn with musket caps. I thought it served all of my purposes for a little bit less than the disc. I got a Williams Peepsight for it as well
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Heck! that is a good setup - it will serve you well. The only problem you might have is keeping them dang Musket caps on the nipple - probably have to squeeze them a bit before you put them in the capper. That is why I use #11 Mags. + on the right nipple they become waterproof.
I've got the nipple for #11 as well if I choose. We'll see (I've got fat fingers and small things are hard to keep a handle on).
The DISC was nice, but at $120 more for the same barrel, I decided it was time to be a little cheap. I spent most of the money I saved on the Williams peep.
Last minute stuff costs more than you plan, but I think it'll fire when that 6x6 walks out in front of me and that is what I need.
Thanks for everyone's help (especially Sabotloader).
Now that I have a .50, I have so many bullet choices. What to do!?!
I've got some .348 grain powerbelts and some great plains as well. Guy at the store seemed to like them, even though I was drawn to the TC sabots.
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I am the proud new owner of a knight Big Horn with musket caps. I thought it served all of my purposes for a little bit less than the disc. I got a Williams Peepsight for it as well
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Heck! that is a good setup - it will serve you well. The only problem you might have is keeping them dang Musket caps on the nipple - probably have to squeeze them a bit before you put them in the capper. That is why I use #11 Mags. + on the right nipple they become waterproof.
I've got the nipple for #11 as well if I choose. We'll see (I've got fat fingers and small things are hard to keep a handle on).
The DISC was nice, but at $120 more for the same barrel, I decided it was time to be a little cheap. I spent most of the money I saved on the Williams peep.
Last minute stuff costs more than you plan, but I think it'll fire when that 6x6 walks out in front of me and that is what I need.
Thanks for everyone's help (especially Sabotloader).
Now that I have a .50, I have so many bullet choices. What to do!?!
I've got some .348 grain powerbelts and some great plains as well. Guy at the store seemed to like them, even though I was drawn to the TC sabots.
Go with the 300 grain bloodlines and you wont regret it. They are a little spendy but its worth it :twocents:
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My Bighorn really likes the 290 grain Barnes Spitfire T-EZ over 100 grains of 777 FFg.
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luvmystang67
you really do not have much time to find a bullet and sabot that fit so you pretty much are stuck at the mercy of what somebody locally has to offer.
When you do get the time and chance look at the Lehigh Defense .458x305 gr. CF
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F0711%2F8833%2Fproducts%2FControlled-Fracturing-458-305gr-Bullet-Rev-0_large.jpg%3Fv%3D1419394774&hash=1a030476822be4712bccb74395181dd05378889b)
http://www.lehighdefense.com/collections/bullets/products/458-controlled-fracturing-305gr-bullet?variant=1073755480
This bullet is a real rifle bullet built for the 45-70. It is a bit smaller in diameter than is the Bloodline 300 so I am not sure what sabot you might need to use. Either the standard Orange MMP 458x50 or like in my case in my knights I use a Black MMP HPH-24 to get a good fit.
Later in the year Lehigh will have a 300 grain CF for a ML on the web also.
Make sure you clean the bore of that new ML very well it will have some real crappy looking stuff in it. Do not use a bore brush in yet as the Bore Tek coating will not be cured until you shoot 10-15 rounds out of it.
A bullet that you might find available at the rifle reloading places is the .458x300 Sierra FN HP. that bullets shoots very well and again is a 45-70 rifle bullet. It will work well for you this year and then you will have time to do some experimenting later.
This is a target I shot the other day using those bullets - I shot a Knight MK-85 which is the baby brother of your Bighorn. Only a 50 yard target and the first time that I have shot this reclaimed rifle but you can see the bullet shoots well and the Buffalo hunters tell the bullet works well on Buf.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FKnight%2520MK-85%2520-129%2FFirst%2520Target.jpg&hash=4afba4f770bf0d5d8fd89d3429a7e7c81bf8b33e) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/sabotloader/media/Knight%20MK-85%20-129/First%20Target.jpg.html)
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Nice!
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My BH shoots the Barnes TMZ 290gr with 110 gr 777 3f pretty good.