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Title: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: jrebel on October 07, 2015, 02:35:39 PM: OK....I need to find out the best training collar for my bird dog. She has great instinct and has done great the few times I have taken her out. My one problem, she likes to chase deer. For that reason, I have not taken her out. Last year she didn't go at all. I don't want another year to go by with her not hunting so I figure I need to get her a collar. I figure I will buy a $200 collar that will only be used once, but in the long run it will be worth every penny.

Suggestions please and thanks

Johnny

The pic posted is her locked in on a spike mule deer.... :chuckle: :chuckle: I think she is a little confused.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: jackson7 on October 07, 2015, 03:23:38 PM: I have used tritronics and dogtra. Prefer the dogtra with a beeper/locator. You might find you like the location mode when dog is out of sight. good luck.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: Old Dog on October 07, 2015, 03:28:49 PM: The name brands, Tri-tronics, Dogtra, and Sportdog are all good. The more features it has the more it will cost. For your particular problem I would recommend looking for one with a 1 mile range. :twocents:
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: KFhunter on October 07, 2015, 04:42:53 PM: I have the TT upland G3, it's great but it's a pre-garmen product. goes from level 1 to level 5, at 5 the dog will scream and squeal. Training is down to 1.5 unless the dog is wet then it's down to 1

It's simple to use only 3 buttons, one is a continuous zap then a momentary zap then a beeper controller.

Don't shy from a used one, you can get new batteries for the collar or even get them rebuilt
http://www.collarclinic.com/repair-trade.html

hrm, just learned this
Tri-Tronics G2 and G3, Innotek, SportDog and Tracking Equipment products are not serviceable by Collar Clinic
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: cougarbart on October 07, 2015, 05:04:15 PM: if money is no problem the garmin alpha are so awesome! also serves as a gps for yourself and never lose your dog!
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: JODakota on October 07, 2015, 05:52:52 PM: Why would you only use it once? It's a pretty good insurance policy. Also, you need to do collar intro or you could ruin your dog. Buy something nice. You won't regret it.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: jrebel on October 07, 2015, 06:07:19 PM: Quote from: JODakota on October 07, 2015, 05:52:52 PM
Why would you only use it once? It's a pretty good insurance policy. Also, you need to do collar intro or you could ruin your dog. Buy something nice. You won't regret it.

She is a super smart and obedient dog. Once I break her of liking deer the collar won't be necessary. I am sure I will find other uses, possibly on new dogs in the future......maybe on my kids :chuckle: JOKING OF COURSE.

I am sure I get good use out of it and I have to do something....otherwise she will not get to do what she loves to do; chase birds. :tup:
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: AspenBud on October 07, 2015, 08:09:32 PM: Only time a bird dog should be run without an ecollar on is at home or at a field trial. Deer, porcupines, skunks, snakes, bear, cougar, coyotes, roads...lots of hazards out there that a dog needs to be "persuaded" is a bad idea to mess with. Just make sure the dog understands how to "turn off the the juice" or you'll spend the rest of the day looking for the dog. Proper collar conditioning is key.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: lokidog on October 07, 2015, 08:23:38 PM: Ours behaves better just by having the collar on her, don't even have to use it. She also gets really excited if we just pick it up because it means she is going to get to do something fun. :chuckle: We have a Sportdog, middle of the spectrum one.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: ribka on October 07, 2015, 09:15:20 PM: Quote from: AspenBud on October 07, 2015, 08:09:32 PM
Only time a bird dog should be run without an ecollar on is at home or at a field trial. Deer, porcupines, skunks, snakes, bear, cougar, coyotes, roads...lots of hazards out there that a dog needs to be "persuaded" is a bad idea to mess with. Just make sure the dog understands how to "turn off the the juice" or you'll spend the rest of the day looking for the dog. Proper collar conditioning is key.

Yep

Think it is important at an early timeline to train your dog to turn it off whether it be deer cats chickens other dogs chipmunks etc. I tried to get on my young dog with long lead and e collar early command to leave it . Whistle, command, etc ecollar when my puppy chased deer she knew at at a you age not a positive behavior

Address itnas early as Possible. Have to work every day at least 15!minutes first year of training before ingrained behavior. Want to encourage the predator behavior of course but try and set boundaries at a young age if possible.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: gregr072 on October 08, 2015, 11:24:52 AM: I've been happy with the tritronics gear I've had over the years. It's held up well. My dogs always have a collar on when they're on the ground as well. It rarely gets used, but if I need it, its there.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: RadSav on October 08, 2015, 11:45:40 AM: Quote from: AspenBud on October 07, 2015, 08:09:32 PM
Only time a bird dog should be run without an ecollar on is at home or at a field trial. Deer, porcupines, skunks, snakes, bear, cougar, coyotes, roads...lots of hazards out there that a dog needs to be "persuaded" is a bad idea to mess with. Just make sure the dog understands how to "turn off the the juice" or you'll spend the rest of the day looking for the dog. Proper collar conditioning is key.

:tup: :tup:

Seems that all the collars have gone to crap lately. I remain a Tritonics fan, but they aren't half as good as they were 15 years ago. Dogtra never lasted a dozen field trips for us. Customer Service was great and they stood behind the product, but it took three or four replacements a year to make it through a season.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: jrebel on October 08, 2015, 03:10:11 PM: What about the Garmin??
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: elkaholic33 on October 08, 2015, 03:36:53 PM: I have a Tri-Tronics Classic 70 G3 EXP that I am going to sell if you decide to go that way. Also, I have the tracer light on it.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on October 08, 2015, 03:40:56 PM: Quote from: jrebel on October 08, 2015, 03:10:11 PM
What about the Garmin??

the garmin pro 70 does everything the classic 70 does/did with added LED lights that can be turned on/off remotely and the collars can be switched to a no bark collar if one so desires. also until november 1 st Garmin has a 50$ rebate so you can get a system for 250.00
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: AspenBud on October 08, 2015, 08:00:33 PM: Quote from: jrebel on October 08, 2015, 03:10:11 PM
What about the Garmin??

I'm on season 2 with my Garmin Delta Upland. So far the thing has been solid, which is more than I can say for my Dogtra 3502 Super X, which has been sent back once already to Dogtra for repair, that is failing again.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: jrebel on October 08, 2015, 08:41:02 PM: OK.....narrowed it down to three.

Garmin / tri tronics pro 70
Garmin / Tri tronics pro 550
Sportdog prohunter sd 2525

All get good reviews.....which one would choose out of these three. The Garmins have the Bark Limiter which is nice as she likes to bark at the neighbors cat. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: RadSav on October 08, 2015, 09:10:10 PM: Pro 70 would be my choice of those. I like simplicity, easy and reliable. Never had much use for vibration. And I want any tones to come from the handler not the collar.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on October 09, 2015, 09:49:55 AM: out of those three the Pro 70 is your best bet. its what i use personally, and has been a solid unit. very simple to use
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: Happy Gilmore on October 09, 2015, 10:54:21 AM: New Garmin / TT brands suck.
Old/used Garmin stuff from Collar Clinic would be my only choice.

Dogtra RT for under and around $300 is a great deal and has all the features you need. I have a new Dogtra. It's a great collar. I have an older Pro 500. I would have gotten the same thing again except Garmin stuff I had junked out right away so, sent it back and ordered Dogtra and haven't looked back.
Title: Re: Best training collar for a my bird dog???
Post by: floatinghat on October 15, 2015, 11:49:12 AM: I had a TT Flyways for my female lab and it was great (pre garmin) got my rescue male lab and couldn't find the controller. I bought an Einstein 2 dog trainer and after getting used to it like it. I agree the dogs learn, but keep the collar on them and only use to enforce what they know. I swapped the Einstein collars for old TT collars as they don't loosen up. A couple things I like on the Einstein is the training function and the LED lights. I will take the dogs to the local HS and let them run in the pitch black and watch the lights running around the field. Should they dart off and chase something I can call and correct if needed.