Post by: predatorG on October 14, 2015, 06:54:25 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on October 14, 2015, 07:24:17 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 14, 2015, 07:28:25 AM
Put 3 solid typical 150 bc class 4x4's of each subspecies, and my eyes will always go to the blackie.
Anybody's would, right? I mean a 150" mule deer is a big buck, a 150" whitetail is a big buck, but a 150" blacktail is world class bomber buck and then some.
Post by: birddogdad on October 14, 2015, 08:02:49 AM
Put 3 solid typical 150 bc class 4x4's of each subspecies, and my eyes will always go to the blackie.
Anybody's would, right? I mean a 150" mule deer is a big buck, a 150" whitetail is a big buck, but a 150" blacktail is world class bomber buck and then some.
like this....
Post by: Bean Counter on October 14, 2015, 08:05:10 AM
Post by: grundy53 on October 14, 2015, 08:10:16 AM
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Post by: MountainWalk on October 14, 2015, 08:16:09 AM
Post by: JDHasty on October 14, 2015, 09:48:03 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 14, 2015, 09:53:48 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 14, 2015, 10:06:07 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on October 14, 2015, 10:12:31 AM
Post by: wreckerman5288 on October 14, 2015, 10:16:43 AM
Post by: hunter360 on October 14, 2015, 10:19:46 AM
Muley everytime for me!
:yeah:
Post by: go4steelhd on October 14, 2015, 10:21:25 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on October 14, 2015, 10:32:21 AM
No, Jack, what I meant to say, or should have said was, if you knew nothing about deer, but was observant enough to notice they were three different subspecies of deer, the blacktail would still stand out.
I think that's likely to be true, assuming the 150 BT is the old, knobby, dark horned, massy buck we envision.
Of course, there are 150 class mulies that have those same characteristics (I have one in my garage), and 150 class California BT's that look a lot like a regular old spindly mule deer.
Post by: Bigshooter on October 14, 2015, 10:41:24 AM
Post by: huntnphool on October 14, 2015, 10:44:58 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 14, 2015, 11:01:43 AM
There are some tall-tined whitetail ghosts that would give blacktails a run for their money. Those bucks you get on camera about three times a year :o
Since I spend most of my time hunting mountain whitetail, I'll say that. In my experience, Whitetail are the most intimate species to hunt.
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 14, 2015, 11:03:57 AM
I grew up hunting blacktails and still do love hunting them. But if you put a 150 blacktail next to a 200 inch Mule deer I will kill the mule deer 100 out 100 times.
Go to Klickitat, you'll find both
:peep:
Post by: tgomez on October 14, 2015, 11:13:48 AM
Post by: widgeonwacher on October 14, 2015, 01:32:53 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 14, 2015, 02:08:17 PM
blacktail are the real deer :chuckle:
Says a guy with a whitetail rack as a avatar. :chuckle:
Post by: fishnfur on October 14, 2015, 02:12:16 PM
Post by: Chad Osterholtz on October 14, 2015, 03:46:25 PM
Post by: kellama2001 on October 14, 2015, 04:45:30 PM
Post by: bowhunterwa87 on October 14, 2015, 04:50:00 PM
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Post by: kodiak 907 on October 14, 2015, 05:53:32 PM
Post by: JakeLand on October 14, 2015, 08:51:53 PM
Post by: Turner89 on October 14, 2015, 09:06:20 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 15, 2015, 08:27:16 AM
That picture Birddogdad posted gave me Goosebumps! I've put a couple trophy class whites and mules on the wall, but I just can't seem to bag a blackTAIL worthy of the wall...
fixed it for you :yike:
Post by: jackelope on October 15, 2015, 09:35:45 AM
Given the terrain and trees, I would've guessed this to be a mule deer. Really impressive Blacktail. Congrats.Put 3 solid typical 150 bc class 4x4's of each subspecies, and my eyes will always go to the blackie.
Anybody's would, right? I mean a 150" mule deer is a big buck, a 150" whitetail is a big buck, but a 150" blacktail is world class bomber buck and then some.
like this....
Post by: boneaddict on October 15, 2015, 09:47:52 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on October 15, 2015, 09:51:35 AM
Post by: tgomez on October 15, 2015, 09:55:49 AM
Some day I'll get that trophy muley. Until then....
Ya someday. :chuckle:
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 15, 2015, 09:56:37 AM
Some day I'll get that trophy muley. Until then....
Don't give up. :tup:
I want to see you kill a 190" whitetail with the longbow
Post by: Skyvalhunter on October 15, 2015, 10:16:45 AM
Some day I'll get that trophy muley. Until then....Well if you would quit screwing around and get out there that might increase your odds!! :chuckle:
Post by: PA BEN on October 15, 2015, 11:59:13 AM
I may be the only guy on here but mature whitetails are where its at.:yeah:
Post by: birddogdad on October 15, 2015, 12:33:01 PM
I may be the only guy on here but mature whitetails are where its at.:yeah:
grew up in maine were is was not uncommon to see 200+# does and 300+# bucks field dressed hanging in northern maine moosehead lake area... some real whitetail bruisers.. never harvested a "big" racked white tail, many 10 to 12 points in high school and early navy years back home but nothing I would consider awesome.. guess the gene was more body mass than rack mass there unlike other regions....
I would love to get a big mule now (200+) but those big blackies are tough to pass on, that one I posted is not the biggest I have seen in my area and was taken in 2012, have seen some pushing 160's if they ever show themselves during the daytime for me when I am after deer and not elk, like anything else, more luck and patience to pass on others..... of note, im in a very public hunting area, NOT a ranch or private guided situation, just have to find those honey holes...
Post by: widgeonwacher on October 15, 2015, 12:42:49 PM
i shot a pope and young blacktail this year so whats it to ya?blacktail are the real deer :chuckle:
Says a guy with a whitetail rack as a avatar. :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on October 15, 2015, 01:40:49 PM
i shot a pope and young blacktail this year so whats it to ya?blacktail are the real deer :chuckle:
Says a guy with a whitetail rack as a avatar. :chuckle:
Wow! :o
Post by: predatorG on October 15, 2015, 01:50:11 PM
i shot a pope and young blacktail this year so whats it to ya?blacktail are the real deer :chuckle:
Says a guy with a whitetail rack as a avatar. :chuckle:
They were just messing around. Your avatar promotes Easton not whitetails.
Post by: predatorG on October 15, 2015, 01:53:00 PM
Given the terrain and trees, I would've guessed this to be a mule deer. Really impressive Blacktail. Congrats.Put 3 solid typical 150 bc class 4x4's of each subspecies, and my eyes will always go to the blackie.
Anybody's would, right? I mean a 150" mule deer is a big buck, a 150" whitetail is a big buck, but a 150" blacktail is world class bomber buck and then some.
like this....
And the forehead.
I can't figure out why people go so crazy for whitetails. Almost any hunting magazine you read it's all about east coast whitetails. Maybe it's because I've never hunted them but just from pic's and stuff I can't find any reason to even compare them to muleys or BTs. Maybe it's just the rack though. I don't like whitetail racks as much.
Post by: Old Man Yager on October 15, 2015, 02:10:59 PM
Post by: Chad Osterholtz on October 15, 2015, 02:19:37 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 15, 2015, 02:32:16 PM
Friggin east coast biased... I'm so sick and tired of it, every time I turn to a hunting show, pick up a magazine or look at trophy websites they try to cram white tails down your throat. I record a lot of hunting shows to try and watch them if I have time, the first thing I do is read the description... If it says whitetail... I pass. I've taken a few nice whitetail and a few nice Mule deer, anytime someone new comes in my garage, whether they hunt or not, the first thing they comment on are my mulies on the wall.
I hear that, was wondering just last night why there are very few Muley hunts on those shows.
Post by: M_ray on October 15, 2015, 02:46:08 PM
Post by: Chad Osterholtz on October 15, 2015, 02:54:57 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 15, 2015, 04:14:05 PM
Friggin east coast biased... I'm so sick and tired of it, every time I turn to a hunting show, pick up a magazine or look at trophy websites they try to cram white tails down your throat. I record a lot of hunting shows to try and watch them if I have time, the first thing I do is read the description... If it says whitetail... I pass. I've taken a few nice whitetail and a few nice Mule deer, anytime someone new comes in my garage, whether they hunt or not, the first thing they comment on are my mulies on the wall.
I hear that, was wondering just last night why there are very few Muley hunts on those shows.
I'd rather watch more rifle and muzzleloader hunts or those of other species but I understand that the markets and advertising dollars follow bowhunting whitetails from a tree stand. Coincidentally that is probably where most of the best footage comes from too, or at least the majority of it.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 15, 2015, 04:21:54 PM
Once you go to the mid-west/east coast, the property hunted is usually small and not really the best for spot and stalk. Yet they all seem to drive quads or side by sides to get their deer the 100 yards from the food plot to the truck.Friggin east coast biased... I'm so sick and tired of it, every time I turn to a hunting show, pick up a magazine or look at trophy websites they try to cram white tails down your throat. I record a lot of hunting shows to try and watch them if I have time, the first thing I do is read the description... If it says whitetail... I pass. I've taken a few nice whitetail and a few nice Mule deer, anytime someone new comes in my garage, whether they hunt or not, the first thing they comment on are my mulies on the wall.
I hear that, was wondering just last night why there are very few Muley hunts on those shows.
I'd rather watch more rifle and muzzleloader hunts or those of other species but I understand that the markets and advertising dollars follow bowhunting whitetails from a tree stand. Coincidentally that is probably where most of the best footage comes from too, or at least the majority of it.
Post by: Chad Osterholtz on October 15, 2015, 04:33:54 PM
Post by: MountainWalk on October 15, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
Post by: fishnfur on October 15, 2015, 10:43:56 PM
Post by: huntnphool on October 15, 2015, 11:49:19 PM
But my blacktails by far are my favorite and most memorable.
And I would argue the most difficult to tag at "trophy" category. ;)
Post by: Fungunnin on October 16, 2015, 07:26:11 AM
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Post by: fishnfur on October 16, 2015, 07:31:50 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on October 16, 2015, 07:34:47 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 16, 2015, 09:48:58 AM
But my blacktails by far are my favorite and most memorable.
And I would argue the most difficult to tag at "trophy" category. ;)
I'd agree with that fully.
Post by: jackelope on October 16, 2015, 09:51:37 AM
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 16, 2015, 10:02:45 AM
There was a huge blacktail rack that I used to see from a distance and would pass off as an odd looking, small elk rack (few hundred yards from the road, moving vehicle). Then a buddy was doing some surveying next to the property with the barn the rack was on, and told me all the details. My next trip by, stopped and checked the thing out. Was drooling for sure, bigger than any deer of any type I've ever heard of/seen pictures of. Hoping to run into that guy's offspring one day.
Post by: kodiak 907 on October 16, 2015, 10:12:57 AM
Here's a Blacktail I found last year that might hit 150". Only one way to find out for sure .
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That guy is north of 150. Masher!
Post by: birddogdad on October 16, 2015, 10:27:12 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 16, 2015, 02:09:13 PM
it could, hard to tell with out a facing view. score includes width measurements.... definitely "tall " enough.. typical vs non typ also score differently, you loose score for lack of symmetry on a typical.. non typ, you add everything, no deductions. certainly B&C (+135)
Well, he wouldn't be a blacktail by B&C standards anyway.
Post by: jackelope on October 16, 2015, 02:12:19 PM
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Not sure if he'd be 150, I assume not because he's a 3x, but still a great buck I'd be thrilled to have a chance at.
Post by: Shooting Stix on October 16, 2015, 02:38:50 PM
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