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Title: moving deer season back a week
Post by: huntnfmly on January 18, 2009, 10:23:02 AM
Ive been off here awhile with comp. probs.I wanted to see what you guys think.I talked to wdfw a few weeks ago trying to figure out vacation time for 09 deer season.They said they were pushing to move deer season back one week hoping that it would be colder out.What do you think?
jim
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: 270Shooter on January 18, 2009, 10:28:33 AM
That sounds good to me. But what about elk season? Would they move that back too?
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: boneaddict on January 18, 2009, 10:41:43 AM
Deer season will open on the 17th of October.  Its always the Saturday after the tenth and when the tenth is on the Saturday, it bumps to the next weekend. 
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: lazydrifter on January 18, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
I had to have my vacation schedule in by December 31. I thought it would start on the 10th so that is the week I took off.  Now my whole game plan is shot. No way to change thru my company as the next week is already taken by another guy.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: mossback91 on January 18, 2009, 11:28:46 AM
I had to have my vacation schedule in by December 31. I thought it would start on the 10th so that is the week I took off.  Now my whole game plan is shot. No way to change thru my company as the next week is already taken by another guy.

 :yike:

will muzzleloader be open during that time?

I know this year it started the weekend before modern season and then ended on the friday before modern opened up  :dunno:
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: lazydrifter on January 18, 2009, 11:47:15 AM
yeah it usually is but I have some guys I go with every year over on the eastside. We lease a bunch of land over there and I really don't want to go over and hunt without them.  Well that is still 9 months away.  Maybe i'll win the lotto or something.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: boneaddict on January 18, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
There is alwyas the chance I am wrong. :dunno:
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: huntnphool on January 18, 2009, 12:57:29 PM
They said they were pushing to move deer season back one week hoping that it would be colder out.What do you think?

I have tried several times to explain to everyone that it makes little difference when the season starts unless you are after "local" deer, the biggest effect moving the season a week would come from ending it a week later in the season, like the last week of October. :twocents:
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: Ridgerunner on January 18, 2009, 03:00:09 PM
I think what bone said is true, its always the first saturday after the tenth so this year would be the 17th unless they really change how they've always done things.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: huntnfmly on January 18, 2009, 04:31:29 PM
I dont know nothing about it always being the first saturday after the tenth.I didnt know thats what determined it.They just said they wanted to move it later in the month giving the weather a chance to get colder.It sounded that there was more to it than it just being the first saturday after the tenth.
jim
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: huntnphool on January 18, 2009, 04:36:01 PM
I dont know nothing about it always being the first saturday after the tenth.I didnt know thats what determined it.They just said they wanted to move it later in the month giving the weather a chance to get colder.It sounded that there was more to it than it just being the first saturday after the tenth.

 I dont see the them moving the season back because of weather and at the same time close down all late archery, its counter productive. F&W are trying to limit the amount of animals harvested not make it easier, and moving the dates back would only increase the chance of harvesting :twocents:
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: huntnfmly on January 18, 2009, 04:52:06 PM
They didnt say anything about closing late archery.They would not have to late archery on the east side did not start until nov 20.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: huntnphool on January 18, 2009, 04:55:14 PM
They didnt say anything about closing late archery

 I understand that, it was brought up on another thread.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: TeacherMan on January 18, 2009, 05:06:07 PM
Just think how much better Mule Deer season would be if you had a couple more days in toward the last of the month  :drool:
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: huntnphool on January 18, 2009, 05:23:56 PM
Just think how much better Mule Deer season would be if you had a couple more days in toward the last of the month  :drool:

 And don't think they don't know that either, thats why they end it so early. We used to not even head over until Oct. 31st. for the general, now they make you pay extra money to do that. I'm surprised they don;t make us purchase seperate licenses, one for general and one for late, they would increase their revenue even more.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: boneaddict on January 18, 2009, 05:26:12 PM
Also just think how many years it took to recover from the last time they extended the season to late October, with early snow and rut conditions.  There was a slaughter. 
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: WDFW-SUX on January 18, 2009, 05:35:55 PM
bad bad bad..........let them have bread and circuses :bdid:
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: Red Dawg on January 18, 2009, 05:49:51 PM
our season over hear is always open till the end of the month anyway. but i will say a couple days later always makes a difference. This years rotation seemed a couple of days earlier than normal.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: 270Shooter on January 18, 2009, 06:00:33 PM
I always see legal bucks during the first few days of elk season, but I don't know if its such a good idea to move it back.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 18, 2009, 10:19:12 PM
hmmm... wonder if they are doing that to put a week break between muzzleloader season and modern rifle. 
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: Alchase on January 19, 2009, 09:39:21 AM
Also just think how many years it took to recover from the last time they extended the season to late October, with early snow and rut conditions.  There was a slaughter. 

Bone wasn't that because they also had the youth hunt that year?
I can't remember the last time I hunted past Halloween? Though I know we use to.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: boneaddict on January 19, 2009, 09:45:53 AM
THey had the general go one extra week and the bucks were hammered.  Whiped out a whole age class. There had been early weather and they were all down.  Then the late season tag guys came along and there wasn't much left, but they got the rest.  Obviously a few of us were still successful the years following, but more for local knowlegde than for anything.  THere just wasn't the bucks.  Last year, the bucks were finally starting to show up again as they were now 4 and 5 year olds.  This year they really made a showing and for the first time since that hunt there was a good population of older bucks running around out there, especailly out of the wolf corridor.  I am speaking SOLEY of the METHOW.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: finnman on January 19, 2009, 12:17:46 PM
Sounds like a tag sale ploy by WDFW!!!!!! :twocents:
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: mossback91 on January 19, 2009, 12:21:48 PM
THey had the general go one extra week and the bucks were hammered.  Whiped out a whole age class. There had been early weather and they were all down.  Then the late season tag guys came along and there wasn't much left, but they got the rest.  Obviously a few of us were still successful the years following, but more for local knowlegde than for anything.  THere just wasn't the bucks.  Last year, the bucks were finally starting to show up again as they were now 4 and 5 year olds.  This year they really made a showing and for the first time since that hunt there was a good population of older bucks running around out there, especailly out of the wolf corridor.  I am speaking SOLEY of the METHOW.

I think I remeber what you are talking about bone! I killed my first buck on a winter migration route in rifle season!! :yike:
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: Alchase on January 19, 2009, 12:33:14 PM
That info kind of makes you take a heart check. I have always wanted the general rifle to be moved back to late October and first week November. But if the outcome is that dramatic, then working harder in mid October does not seem as bad as originally thought. Some times less is better.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: Bigshooter on January 19, 2009, 02:58:47 PM
I was told once that it would always open the second saturday of october unless there was not enough days to get the muzzle loader season in first.  But after reading what I just wrote then it would always open on the second saturday.

Anyway i'll bet it opens on the 10th. 
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: lazydrifter on January 21, 2009, 07:24:20 PM
tentative posted dates for East. Wa
Whitetail  Oct. 17-30
Mule deer Oct. 17-25
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: grizzlygibbs on January 22, 2009, 09:54:28 PM
i dont think its any conspiracy, its just the way the dates landed! IMHO
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: GoPlayOutside on January 22, 2009, 10:08:56 PM
It doesn't make much sense, especially with the WDFW biologists talking about closing down a lot of late archery hunts because of high kill #'s (which is bulls---).  Why would they push a modern season later...the WDFW doesn't want anyone to actually kill anything!  Do they????
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: Diehard0123 on January 22, 2009, 10:16:55 PM
 >:( >:(  My hunting partners and I already scheduled our vacations for the week of the 10th.  This burns me big time!!!!  Why the Hell cant they post the seasons before the first of January?????   :bash: :bash: :mor:


Can anyone confirm this as "set in stone?"

How will this effect the modern elk season?  Will they move that back as well or will they run deer season right through elk season?
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: smdave on January 22, 2009, 10:23:05 PM
Here is the past openers for modern rifle.


Openers modern deer
2003 Oct 11th
2004 Oct 16th
2005 Oct 15th
2006 Oct 14th
2007 Oct 13th
2008 Oct 11th

My bet is the 17th this year.
(It is my wifes birthday she has learned that I am never home on her birthday)

Dave
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: bobcat on January 22, 2009, 10:25:54 PM
>:( >:(  My hunting partners and I already scheduled our vacations for the week of the 10th.  This burns me big time!!!!  Why the Hell cant they post the seasons before the first of January?????   :bash: :bash: :mor:


Can anyone confirm this as "set in stone?"

How will this effect the modern elk season?  Will they move that back as well or will they run deer season right through elk season?

Yes it is "set in stone."  Sorry to say but you can't blame the WDFW for this. If you would have called them before you put in for your vacation time, I would bet they would have told you opening of deer is the 17th. The season was not moved back a week as the title of this thread implies. If you read the entire thread you would have seen this post:

Deer season will open on the 17th of October.  Its always the Saturday after the tenth and when the tenth is on the Saturday, it bumps to the next weekend.  

And this:

I think what bone said is true, its always the first saturday after the tenth so this year would be the 17th unless they really change how they've always done things.
Title: Re: moving deer season back a week
Post by: Diehard0123 on January 22, 2009, 10:50:50 PM
I just found it, here it is in black and white:

http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/seasonsetting/2009-2011_recommendations/232-28-351_ots-2129_3.pdf

 :DOH: :DOH: :DOH: :DOH: :DOH:
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