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Equipment & Gear => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Buck Rub Jr on October 26, 2015, 02:45:15 PM
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Hey guys, I've been contemplating on putting together a longer ranged set up together and I'd like to be able to use it for elk. I was curious of your opinions on using a 264 for elk, I don't plan on do any crazy long shots, in fact I don't want to shoot over 450 yards or so. I know that's not not long range for a lot of you but it's just my preference. Anyhow, if it's not sufficient for elk, I'll just continue use my 30-06 for elk and then decide whether or not to make my 243, 270 or 264 a longer range gun to hunt deer and coyotes and what not with. My grandpa had taken his first elk with the 264, but it was a spike at a closer range which is why I'm curious if you guys think it'd be enough to take down a bigger bull. I think it'd be special to take my first elk with the exact same gun that he did and hand load the rounds for it with my pops but if not, the 30-06 was his as well abd I'll be using that! Thanks in advance - Ryan.
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I am shooting 130 berger hunting vlds at 3188 fps. I would not hesitate to use it on elk and plan to put one down with it next week.
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In standard length and shorter barrels a 264 runs rite along with the 270, plenty capable of taking elk. To get the most out of it though you'd probably want to run around a 28" barrel to pick up an extra 200-300 FPS over a 24" barrel.
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Thank you for the input guys, it's greatly appreciated!
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264 Win Mag is a great caliber and will be a great gun.
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Great cal. Ever hear of 6.5'06?
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I shoot 120gr nosler at 3350 , one hole groups ..extremely accurate and effective
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264 Win Mag is a great caliber and will be a great gun.
Looking forward to puttin her to work!
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Great cal. Ever hear of 6.5'06?
No Sir I have not. Educate me!
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I shoot 120gr nosler at 3350 , one hole groups ..extremely accurate and effective
Sweet, makes me excited to start on it. We have 140gr sierras, I was going to start with those and get a new scope for it so I can get to shootin.
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6.5 Creedmoor....
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One of the guys in our Utah camp whacked a nice 6X6 at medium range with the 6.5-284. Busted him up good. I was left impressed!
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Great cal. Ever hear of 6.5'06?
No Sir I have not. Educate me!
It's to the 264 as the 280 is to the 7mm rem mag. Gets you about 90 percent of the way there but I believe you can use much easier to find 270 win brass and neck it run it through the sizing die. If you had someone cut you a 6.5-06 improved chamber it would cut the difference between them about in half.
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6.5 Creedmoor....
Have heard lots of great things about that caliber. I would definitely be considering it if I were going to buy a new rifle, but I already have these ones so I may as well make use of what I've got for now!
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264 bullet, necked down' 06 case. Easy to load, cheaper brass, less powder used and burnt, no need for a 28-30" tube, Ez conversion from an' 06. 100Gr@3547?140gr@2900,130@3151per Nosler.
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Those figs from a 24"barrel.
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264 will do the job over and over at those distances
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One of the guys in our Utah camp whacked a nice 6X6 at medium range with the 6.5-284. Busted him up good. I was left impressed!
I sure hope to get the opportunity to chase bulls with it! My grand plan is to draw an observatory bull tag (it's where both my dad and grandpa took their first elk which were bulls) and to hopefully tag a bull with the .264. My dad made the stock for it and my grandpa took his first elk with it. It's wishful thinking, but, it's good to have a goal!
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Here's a 140gr SMK @ 2850 fps smashing through a bull elk @742 yds. With the velocity advantage of the win mag, you could assume similar results at about 950 yds.....
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi193.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz16%2Fgyonemura%2FIMAG0004_zps5fd87831.jpg&hash=475ab3e9e59edc93b8c00ff11a0645d6f5754f35) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/gyonemura/media/IMAG0004_zps5fd87831.jpg.html)
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Here's a 140gr SMK @ 2850 fps smashing through a bull elk @742 yds. With the velocity advantage of the win mag, you could assume similar results at about 950 yds.....
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi193.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz16%2Fgyonemura%2FIMAG0004_zps5fd87831.jpg&hash=475ab3e9e59edc93b8c00ff11a0645d6f5754f35) (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/gyonemura/media/IMAG0004_zps5fd87831.jpg.html)
Wow :o I'm sold!
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That's the onside scapula with a pencil hole and the offside beat to smithereens.
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The 264WM is a good round. It can be a little finicky at times, but overall its a performer. Another thought would be a 6.5-06AI. Gives almost he same performance with less powder and more barrel life. Run 140's in either and it will do the job if your shot placement is good.
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The 264WM is a good round. It can be a little finicky at times, but overall its a performer. Another thought would be a 6.5-06AI. Gives almost he same performance with less powder and more barrel life. Run 140's in either and it will do the job if your shot placement is good.
The 6.5-06AI will probably be my next project, hard to find anything not to like about it......
It's one of the most over looked rounds out there. I build a bunch of them and have never had a complaint yet on performance.
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I know a couple of old elk hunters in Castle Rock who swear by the .264 Win Mag. I've seen them run down a herd for three days, then shoot them where they stood, unable to outrun them. But they wouldn't hesitate to use the .264's at long range. Great choice.
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I just watched The Best of the West with John Porter. The shooter used a 264 at 690 yards on an Elk, DRT ! Forgot, they were at 10'000 feet in Wyoming.
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I just watched The Best of the West with John Porter. The shooter used a 264 at 690 yards on an Elk, DRT ! Forgot, they were at 10'000 feet in Wyoming.
Remember this thread? http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,158322.msg2093402.html#msg2093402 :chuckle:
I sort of like BOTW. Find it entertaining. Haven't watched an episode in a few years so haven't seen that one. Might need to visit my brother so I can watch it.
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I just watched The Best of the West with John Porter. The shooter used a 264 at 690 yards on an Elk, DRT ! Forgot, they were at 10'000 feet in Wyoming.
Remember this thread? http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,158322.msg2093402.html#msg2093402 :chuckle:
I sort of like BOTW. Find it entertaining. Haven't watched an episode in a few years so haven't seen that one. Might need to visit my brother so I can watch it.
I remember it. But I was talking about the killing abilities of the 264, not the show itself. Personally, I don't watch hardly any shows anymore because they're all about, infomercials for products now. Plus, hunting out of a shack, with sliding windows, heat etc isn't really hunting to me.
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The cartridge has more killing capacity than most hunters do. There's a lot more sub moa to 700 yd rifles than shooters.....
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I remember it. But I was talking about the killing abilities of the 264, not the show itself.
I realized that. My thought process rarely runs in a straight line. Sorry ;)
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I remember it. But I was talking about the killing abilities of the 264, not the show itself.
I realized that. My thought process rarely runs in a straight line. Sorry ;)
Neither does mine, as you can tell by some my irrational, rational ramblings..... :tup:
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I have a couple 264s and would take any critter in the U.S. with one save Bison, brown bear or polar bear. That being said a lot of polar bears were shot in Norway with the 6.5x55 which is slower. Still, I'd trust it for anything huntable in washington at any range I can shoot at. The .264 caliber bullet is a great combination of ballistic coefficient and the often overlooked sectional density. The mass and velocity applied to a comparatively small area makes for excellent penetration with a bullet designed to hold up to the desired impact velocities. The 264 will serve you well.