Post by: Chappy84 on October 27, 2015, 09:41:16 AM
With the week winding down and my buck down and hung, we started to work closer to the road (about one mile) Around 4pm we jumped a nice 4x4 and put on a stalk cause they never go too far. Well 30 minutes before dark my Brother in-law spots him bedded down 105 yards down the hill and I step on a twig so the buck jumps up and he takes the shot as best he could...... shot high in the lungs, it walks away looking hurt so we wait (and trees were in the way of a follow up) no big deal right? Wrong! A dang drone flies in sounding like a two stroke dirt bike and zips around and that buck takes off running like the devil was after it. I was ticked to say the least, all that work, sweat and blisters and now this?
What's your take on using drones for hunting/scouting? If I had a shotgun...............drone down.
Post by: Curly on October 27, 2015, 09:44:55 AM
Post by: runamuk on October 27, 2015, 09:47:54 AM
Post by: YoterHunter on October 27, 2015, 09:55:26 AM
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on October 27, 2015, 09:56:43 AM
Post by: jackelope on October 27, 2015, 09:59:08 AM
using drones to spot/scout should be illegal. In many states it already is:yeah:
Post by: jackelope on October 27, 2015, 09:59:28 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 27, 2015, 10:06:52 AM
Post by: Chappy84 on October 27, 2015, 10:08:15 AM
Never found the buck?
Searched high and low well into the night and the next day. Found a couple spots were it seemed to stagger but that was over a mile away and the tracks up until then looked like he was digging in and covering ground fast then he hit a rocky area and except for some bubbly blood we lost his trail all together and spiraled out from that location for half a mile. meanwhile my brother in law is chanting under his breath, "never again, not taking anymore risky shots." he felt horrible, but I am confident (80%) that we would have gotten one more shot if not for the drone. or he would have died a peaceful death??
Post by: quadrafire on October 27, 2015, 10:12:47 AM
Post by: CoryTDF on October 27, 2015, 10:19:12 AM
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
Post by: CoryTDF on October 27, 2015, 10:19:36 AM
Did you see who was navigating the drone? What is the range on one of those things anyway?
Can be over a mile.
Post by: cbond3318 on October 27, 2015, 10:23:50 AM
Post by: toyman2 on October 27, 2015, 10:40:15 AM
I feel like I heard this story today. :chuckle: That sucks man. It would have been awesome if you could have shot that thing out of the air. I would have loved to see the guys face who was flying it.
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
There was a news story o a guy I think in Texas that was arrested for shooting one down in his back yard.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-shoots-neighbors-drone_55bf8127e4b0d4f33a034e31
Post by: Chappy84 on October 27, 2015, 10:45:31 AM
I feel like I heard this story today. :chuckle: That sucks man. It would have been awesome if you could have shot that thing out of the air. I would have loved to see the guys face who was flying it.
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
This one had four props and a tiny body. How would you be able to read the #'s :dunno: I guess shoot it down and get them off the thing. I'll start carrying a bird shot load in my sidearm for these critters. I looked for the guy the next day and saw someone go straight towards the location were we shot the buck but he was too far away to catch up to.... probly him.
Post by: CoryTDF on October 27, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
I feel like I heard this story today. :chuckle: That sucks man. It would have been awesome if you could have shot that thing out of the air. I would have loved to see the guys face who was flying it.
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
This one had four props and a tiny body. How would you be able to read the #'s :dunno: I guess shoot it down and get them off the thing. I'll start carrying a bird shot load in my sidearm for these critters. I looked for the guy the next day and saw someone go straight towards the location were we shot the buck but he was too far away to catch up to.... probly him.
Not sure what the plan is. I heard there was going to be a digital tag and some sort of number tag as well.
Post by: DRobnsn on October 27, 2015, 11:05:47 AM
I feel like I heard this story today. :chuckle: That sucks man. It would have been awesome if you could have shot that thing out of the air. I would have loved to see the guys face who was flying it.
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
There was a news story o a guy I think in Texas that was arrested for shooting one down in his back yard.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-shoots-neighbors-drone_55bf8127e4b0d4f33a034e31
Were you just making this incident known, or are you suggesting we just walk away when a drone invades our privacy or intrudes in ways such as the OP has stated?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 27, 2015, 11:14:03 AM
Post by: 3dvapor on October 27, 2015, 11:14:27 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 27, 2015, 11:17:32 AM
I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.
So, you're saying that there shouldn't be a law prohibiting the harassment of wildlife or legal hunters by use of a drone? There shouldn't be a law prohibiting scouting or hunting with a drone? I agree we have a lot of laws and many are useless. I don't believe that's the case with the use of drones. This is a whole new technology and issues with it will need to be addressed. This is one. Flying them around airports is another.
Post by: runamuk on October 27, 2015, 11:23:49 AM
I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.No new law needed simply use the existing harassment laws. But they cannot be used at all if people never call this stuff in. Just saying make a report there are laws existing that can be enforced but they have to know about the violation.
That said I have a fb friend who is a custom car and bike guy and he is also building and customizing drones they are cool little gizmos and when used with manners and discretion I see no problem with them. But there will always be jerks who do jerky things we could ban everything and the jerks would still find ways to be jerky.
Post by: Bob33 on October 27, 2015, 11:25:28 AM
Where are all the "support all legal hunting methods" members?using drones to spot/scout should be illegal. In many states it already is:yeah:
How dare you impose your morals and personal opinions of what you think is right or wrong on me. ;)
Post by: Chappy84 on October 27, 2015, 11:25:53 AM
I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.
I agree it MIGHT have been a tough track job, but it did not run after shot. It jumped/bucked and started to walk after 20 yards we were going to re position and try to get a shot through the trees then the flying noise maker came zipping overhead and spooked that sucker worse than we did. I agree its hard to say "could've" or "might've" but regardless. :dunno:
Post by: popeshawnpaul on October 27, 2015, 11:27:36 AM
I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.
So, you're saying that there shouldn't be a law prohibiting the harassment of wildlife or legal hunters by use of a drone? There shouldn't be a law prohibiting scouting or hunting with a drone? I agree we have a lot of laws and many are useless. I don't believe that's the case with the use of drones. This is a whole new technology and issues with it will need to be addressed. This is one. Flying them around airports is another.
We have the laws. There is already a wildlife harassment law so there is no need for another. Right now you can't use aircraft to scout or hunt. However, that statute was passed before drones were invented. They are working to redefine what "aircraft" is defined as to include drones as it's arguable that drones do not fall under the current definition.
Post by: CoryTDF on October 27, 2015, 11:41:55 AM
I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.
Do we not have the right to privacy? On our own property?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 27, 2015, 11:45:25 AM
I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.
So, you're saying that there shouldn't be a law prohibiting the harassment of wildlife or legal hunters by use of a drone? There shouldn't be a law prohibiting scouting or hunting with a drone? I agree we have a lot of laws and many are useless. I don't believe that's the case with the use of drones. This is a whole new technology and issues with it will need to be addressed. This is one. Flying them around airports is another.
We have the laws. There is already a wildlife harassment law so there is no need for another. Right now you can't use aircraft to scout or hunt. However, that statute was passed before drones were invented. They are working to redefine what "aircraft" is defined as to include drones as it's arguable that drones do not fall under the current definition.
So, it would be a new law, basically.
Post by: quadrafire on October 27, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
Bet that is why they have the signs. Someone probably already did those things.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 27, 2015, 11:50:57 AM
I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.
So, you're saying that there shouldn't be a law prohibiting the harassment of wildlife or legal hunters by use of a drone? There shouldn't be a law prohibiting scouting or hunting with a drone? I agree we have a lot of laws and many are useless. I don't believe that's the case with the use of drones. This is a whole new technology and issues with it will need to be addressed. This is one. Flying them around airports is another.
We have the laws. There is already a wildlife harassment law so there is no need for another. Right now you can't use aircraft to scout or hunt. However, that statute was passed before drones were invented. They are working to redefine what "aircraft" is defined as to include drones as it's arguable that drones do not fall under the current definition.
So, it would be a new law, basically.
No, it would not be a new law, instead, it would simply address or clarify the defination of what is considered an aircraft under Washington law.
The statute already exists that says no using aircraft to hunt with or locate game to hunt. Key point to that the use of the word aircraft vs airplane...
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-12-057
Post by: cbond3318 on October 27, 2015, 11:52:14 AM
On a side note. There are signs all over the tourist stops in Yellowstone National Park forbidding the use of drones. Guess it would be kinda cool to look down the throat of Old Faithful and a close up of a big Bison.
Bet that is why they have the signs. Someone probably already did those things.
Or you can buy the DVD at the gift shop for 20$
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 27, 2015, 11:55:24 AM
I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.
So, you're saying that there shouldn't be a law prohibiting the harassment of wildlife or legal hunters by use of a drone? There shouldn't be a law prohibiting scouting or hunting with a drone? I agree we have a lot of laws and many are useless. I don't believe that's the case with the use of drones. This is a whole new technology and issues with it will need to be addressed. This is one. Flying them around airports is another.
We have the laws. There is already a wildlife harassment law so there is no need for another. Right now you can't use aircraft to scout or hunt. However, that statute was passed before drones were invented. They are working to redefine what "aircraft" is defined as to include drones as it's arguable that drones do not fall under the current definition.
So, it would be a new law, basically.
No, it would not be a new law, instead, it would simply address or clarify the defination of what is considered an aircraft under Washington law.
The statute already exists that says no using aircraft to hunt with or locate game to hunt.
Potato potato. It makes zero difference if you change a law to include drones or write a new one. The effect is the same. The above act should never be allowed.
Post by: 1bugman on October 27, 2015, 12:02:30 PM
A) see what was going on and/or snake an animal
OR
B) Was an anti hunter trying to mess with hunters
You can't tell me it was a coincidence, either way, the people with the drone are wrong. I would have been temped to shoot the drone, but would have been too stunned to. :twocents:
Post by: Firedogg on October 27, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
There are already laws in place for wildlife or hunter harassment, need to have someone that can be identified to investigate/enforce it though, so that might be the tough part.
Post by: coachcw on October 27, 2015, 01:09:06 PM
Post by: Chappy84 on October 27, 2015, 02:06:36 PM
So dis the Drone say wdfw on it or Mossback ? :chuckle:Does WDFW have these? That was another concern of ours if we chose to shoot at it
Post by: Bob33 on October 27, 2015, 02:15:10 PM
It is already illegal to use drones while hunting. Read the regs about aircraft useage, (page 87), drones are legally considered aircraft under state and federal law. You cannot be in contact or communicate with aircraft for the purpose of spotting, locating or hunting game. FAA designation makes this an easy one.Hmmm....
There are already laws in place for wildlife or hunter harassment, need to have someone that can be identified to investigate/enforce it though, so that might be the tough part.
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/Laws/WAC/WAC%20352%20%20TITLE/WAC%20352%20-%2037%20%20CHAPTER/WAC%20352%20-%2037%20-020.htm
"Aircraft" shall mean any machine designed to travel through the air, whether heavier or lighter than air; airplane, dirigible, balloon, helicopter, etc. The term aircraft shall not include paraglider or remote controlled aircraft.
Post by: CoryTDF on October 27, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
It is already illegal to use drones while hunting. Read the regs about aircraft useage, (page 87), drones are legally considered aircraft under state and federal law. You cannot be in contact or communicate with aircraft for the purpose of spotting, locating or hunting game. FAA designation makes this an easy one.
There are already laws in place for wildlife or hunter harassment, need to have someone that can be identified to investigate/enforce it though, so that might be the tough part.
At this time Drones are not required to be registered by FAA. So, this is not exactly a clear cut thing.
Post by: toyman2 on October 27, 2015, 03:15:17 PM
I feel like I heard this story today. :chuckle: That sucks man. It would have been awesome if you could have shot that thing out of the air. I would have loved to see the guys face who was flying it.
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
There was a news story o a guy I think in Texas that was arrested for shooting one down in his back yard.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-shoots-neighbors-drone_55bf8127e4b0d4f33a034e31
Were you just making this incident known, or are you suggesting we just walk away when a drone invades our privacy or intrudes in ways such as the OP has stated?
I just read today he got off. I would shoot the thing down if I could. I think it is wrong to use them during hunting season or even in residential areas.
Post by: Seabass on October 27, 2015, 03:58:36 PM
I'm just asking because it sounds like that's what you are saying. Isn't it more likely that some dude was flying his toy and you both happened to be in the same area at the same time?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 27, 2015, 04:43:39 PM
Are you saying that the flyer of the drone did this on purpose? As in, he knew you had just shot a buck and flew over your buck with some sort of intention.
I'm just asking because it sounds like that's what you are saying. Isn't it more likely that some dude was flying his toy and you both happened to be in the same area at the same time?
That sounds unlikely out in the woods. That would be a heck of a coincidence .
Post by: jackelope on October 27, 2015, 05:10:38 PM
Are you saying that the flyer of the drone did this on purpose? As in, he knew you had just shot a buck and flew over your buck with some sort of intention.
I'm just asking because it sounds like that's what you are saying. Isn't it more likely that some dude was flying his toy and you both happened to be in the same area at the same time?
That sounds unlikely out in the woods. That would be a heck of a coincidence .
How far from the road were the hunters when the drone appeared?
Post by: kentrek on October 27, 2015, 05:11:43 PM
:yeah: the penalties should be the same as if the person was there in person...shoot em all ! Just cuz you call spying on people a hobby doesn't make it justified...I hate the thought though of more laws in the name of protection. Which means someone elses rights are taken away or charged a hefty fee for there hobby. Sounds like the drone didnt help matters but your buddys buck would of been a tough track job even without the drone spooking it.
Do we not have the right to privacy? On our own property?
Post by: PA BEN on October 27, 2015, 08:29:55 PM
I feel like I heard this story today. :chuckle: That sucks man. It would have been awesome if you could have shot that thing out of the air. I would have loved to see the guys face who was flying it.Yeah no skin off your nose if they take away my sport. You sound like a person who has no clue about gun registration who doesn't have a problem with taking your guns.
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 28, 2015, 06:32:40 AM
Post by: jstone on October 28, 2015, 07:50:40 AM
Post by: 1bugman on October 28, 2015, 08:09:18 AM
Chances of this being a coincidence are slim at best, and the people/person responsible is (most like) an A$$. Be careful asking for new laws. Sometimes you get more then you ask for.
Post by: krout81 on October 28, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
Post by: Chappy84 on October 28, 2015, 08:17:10 AM
Are you saying that the flyer of the drone did this on purpose? As in, he knew you had just shot a buck and flew over your buck with some sort of intention.
I'm just asking because it sounds like that's what you are saying. Isn't it more likely that some dude was flying his toy and you both happened to be in the same area at the same time?
I am saying in no uncertain terms that he heard the shot and sent in his toy to:
1. See what we shot.
2. Find a proven hunting area.
3. Annoy us out of the area.
FACT He launched it after the shot.
FACT He buzzed the deer and us.
FACT He buzzed straight toward our location.
Who plays with their toys in the wanaha wilderness during hunting season? regardless of the dudes intentions the act remains shady at best. Do your scouting the old fashioned way and get off your backside. It's small acts of stupidity like this that harden hunters toward other people and cause a break in the brotherhood. Just bad ethics.
Post by: GBoyd on October 28, 2015, 08:50:48 AM
Post by: CoryTDF on October 28, 2015, 08:54:40 AM
I feel like I heard this story today. :chuckle: That sucks man. It would have been awesome if you could have shot that thing out of the air. I would have loved to see the guys face who was flying it.Yeah no skin off your nose if they take away my sport. You sound like a person who has no clue about gun registration who doesn't have a problem with taking your guns.
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
This response makes my head hurt..... :dunno:
That said, No I am not at all for gun registration. Well, until they figure out how to pilot a gun and fly it over my back yard to take pictures of my family. I live under the airport flyway. I have planes fly over my house every day without worry of being spied on. If say, a helicopter was to fly over my house and hover there I would not be happy with that either. I could however catch a tail number and file a complaint.
I seriously doubt that your RC plane is used for filming. However, if it is I would also shoot it from the sky if it was to be dive bombing my back yard while my children were outside. So, I am an equal opportunity personal spy craft assassin.
Before you go all high and mighty and make assumptions about me you should know that I not only have used a drone my filming group owns one and uses it quite regularly. I would expect to see it shot down if I was using it in the manner the OP described and or the manner in which I was describing. I am not against them. Not at all. It is all in how they are used. If a person chooses to use them inappropriately there should be some system in place to hold them accountable. It's not like a pilot of a real aircraft can just crash the plane and slip away into the shadows after nefarious activity. So neither should the drone pilot.
Post by: Seabass on October 28, 2015, 09:47:04 AM
Are you saying that the flyer of the drone did this on purpose? As in, he knew you had just shot a buck and flew over your buck with some sort of intention.
I'm just asking because it sounds like that's what you are saying. Isn't it more likely that some dude was flying his toy and you both happened to be in the same area at the same time?
I am saying in no uncertain terms that he heard the shot and sent in his toy to:
1. See what we shot.
2. Find a proven hunting area.
3. Annoy us out of the area.
FACT He launched it after the shot.
FACT He buzzed the deer and us.
FACT He buzzed straight toward our location.
Who plays with their toys in the wanaha wilderness during hunting season? regardless of the dudes intentions the act remains shady at best. Do your scouting the old fashioned way and get off your backside. It's small acts of stupidity like this that harden hunters toward other people and cause a break in the brotherhood. Just bad ethics.
You are assuming a lot!
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2015, 10:01:24 AM
Yeah no skin off your nose if they take away my sport. You sound like a person who has no clue about gun registration who doesn't have a problem with taking your guns.
The salient difference is that there is an explicit Constitutional protection of gun ownership and prohibition of infringements and there is no such protection afforded to the ability to fly a drone over my back yard and complain when I blast it out of the sky :hello:
Post by: KFhunter on October 28, 2015, 10:15:22 AM
I feel like I heard this story today. :chuckle: That sucks man. It would have been awesome if you could have shot that thing out of the air. I would have loved to see the guys face who was flying it.
On another note they are talking about having a drone registration. Similar to putting tail numbers on plains. There have been cases of drones being used to make drops into prisons and also spy on people in there houses and yards. The registered drones would be able to be tracked to the owner. I for one hope that this actually happens. I am 10,000,000,000,000 more on board for drone registration than firearm registration.
There is a guy with a drone in my neighborhood. He has flown it over my house a few times. I told my wife if it looks like he is filming our girls I'm going to shoot that sucker out of the air! The thought of perverts using this to film children is awful but it is a very really threat in todays society.
There was a news story o a guy I think in Texas that was arrested for shooting one down in his back yard.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-shoots-neighbors-drone_55bf8127e4b0d4f33a034e31
That case was fully dismissed along with the charges for unlawful discharge of a firearm inside city limits. Keep in mind Texas IS NOT Washington, I fear you'd hang in this state for doing the same.
Post by: bradslam on October 28, 2015, 10:23:04 AM
On a side note, earlier this month my wife and I hiked up to Blue Lake in the North Cascades. Part way up the trail we start hearing a loud obnoxious buzzing noise. At first we couldn't think of what if was, but then several different people who were on their way down the trail complained of an a**hole up at the lake flying a drone. When we arrived at the lake, there was a couple, probably in their sixties, flying a very loud drone over the lake. What followed was contentious discussion between us where it was obvious that the man didn't really give a damn about ruining anybody else's wilderness experience. In his opinion, it was legal so tough s**t! In my opinion, he was a selfish SOB.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 28, 2015, 10:24:09 AM
In my opinion, drones should absolutely be banned for hunting purposes. Technology used in hunting is already advancing to the point where it is hard to defend against non-hunters perceptions of us. I can't imagine what they would think of hunters flying drones around to locate game. Remember, someday it could come down to some initiative put on the ballot by an anti-hunting group.
...
Imagine them wording the initiative in a way that also bans trail cameras, too :o
Post by: bradslam on October 28, 2015, 10:26:35 AM
Post by: KFhunter on October 28, 2015, 10:37:17 AM
I think in your case I'd have tried to notify WDFW and pushed the angle of hunter harassment. Out in the woods it should be a lot easier to spot the operator of the "drone" than in an urban area.
Post by: ArcherTL on October 28, 2015, 10:38:06 AM
Washington should also allow the use of leashed tracking dogs for retrieval of wounded game which 38 other states allow. However that is an unrelated issue.
Post by: CoryTDF on October 28, 2015, 12:28:10 PM
Washington should also allow the use of leashed tracking dogs for retrieval of wounded game which 38 other states allow. However that is an unrelated issue.
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Post by: westsidehntr on October 28, 2015, 12:33:52 PM
In my opinion, drones should absolutely be banned for hunting purposes. Technology used in hunting is already advancing to the point where it is hard to defend against non-hunters perceptions of us. I can't imagine what they would think of hunters flying drones around to locate game. Remember, someday it could come down to some initiative put on the ballot by an anti-hunting group.In his opinion, you probably were :dunno:
On a side note, earlier this month my wife and I hiked up to Blue Lake in the North Cascades. Part way up the trail we start hearing a loud obnoxious buzzing noise. At first we couldn't think of what if was, but then several different people who were on their way down the trail complained of an a**hole up at the lake flying a drone. When we arrived at the lake, there was a couple, probably in their sixties, flying a very loud drone over the lake. What followed was contentious discussion between us where it was obvious that the man didn't really give a damn about ruining anybody else's wilderness experience. In his opinion, it was legal so tough s**t! In my opinion, he was a selfish SOB.
Post by: Chappy84 on October 28, 2015, 12:55:23 PM
Was it you flying your toy up in the wenaha seabass? How was I supposed to assume any other motive? I spent the week in relative solitude up until that point so please fill me in here. Do you have more to add?Are you saying that the flyer of the drone did this on purpose? As in, he knew you had just shot a buck and flew over your buck with some sort of intention.
I'm just asking because it sounds like that's what you are saying. Isn't it more likely that some dude was flying his toy and you both happened to be in the same area at the same time?
I am saying in no uncertain terms that he heard the shot and sent in his toy to:
1. See what we shot.
2. Find a proven hunting area.
3. Annoy us out of the area.
FACT He launched it after the shot.
FACT He buzzed the deer and us.
FACT He buzzed straight toward our location.
Who plays with their toys in the wanaha wilderness during hunting season? regardless of the dudes intentions the act remains shady at best. Do your scouting the old fashioned way and get off your backside. It's small acts of stupidity like this that harden hunters toward other people and cause a break in the brotherhood. Just bad ethics.
You are assuming a lot!
Post by: Bob33 on October 28, 2015, 12:59:38 PM
In my opinion, drones should absolutely be banned for hunting purposes. Technology used in hunting is already advancing to the point where it is hard to defend against non-hunters perceptions of us. I can't imagine what they would think of hunters flying drones around to locate game. Remember, someday it could come down to some initiative put on the ballot by an anti-hunting group.Well now. I thought we were supposed to defend all legal hunting methods. We are not supposed to decide what is right or wrong for other hunters. It sounds to me like you're trying to impose your ethics on me. This is just one more step for antis to take away our hunting rights.
On a side note, earlier this month my wife and I hiked up to Blue Lake in the North Cascades. Part way up the trail we start hearing a loud obnoxious buzzing noise. At first we couldn't think of what if was, but then several different people who were on their way down the trail complained of an a**hole up at the lake flying a drone. When we arrived at the lake, there was a couple, probably in their sixties, flying a very loud drone over the lake. What followed was contentious discussion between us where it was obvious that the man didn't really give a damn about ruining anybody else's wilderness experience. In his opinion, it was legal so tough s**t! In my opinion, he was a selfish SOB.
"If you don't like drones, don't get one."
;)
Post by: bradslam on October 28, 2015, 01:04:51 PM
Post by: KFhunter on October 28, 2015, 10:24:22 PM
Westside, he may have thought that, but the thirty-some other people that hiked up the trail to enjoy the peace and solitude of one of the more beautiful spots in Washington definitely agreed with me. A comment I heard from more than one person was, "If I had a gun, I'd shoot the damn thing down!" Sorry, but to me it has to do with people showing lack of respect for anyone else around them. It seems more and more prevalent these days. I guess one analogy would be this: Would it be okay to bring a ghetto blaster up to the same spot and crank up the volume? Yes it may be legal, but it would show a total disregard for everyone else around you.
That' the same analogy that gets offroad vehicles banned and roads shut down too.
Post by: Roo on October 28, 2015, 11:28:31 PM
Post by: bearpaw on October 28, 2015, 11:49:31 PM
Post by: Chappy84 on October 29, 2015, 08:54:27 AM
I admit I didn't read every post so maybe I missed something. But if this was just some guy out innocently flying his drone for recreation I don't see the outrage. Someone has just as much right to fly his drone as a hunter does going hunting. Yes it's very unfortunate it affected a hunt, but unless it was intentional it was probably just a matter of bad luck, being in the wrong spot at the wrong time. It would have been no different if a semi went by on the highway and happened to use his jake brake to slow down and it scared the buck! Are you going to shoot the semi? Gentlemen we all need to share the outdoors with other users. :dunno:
I guess you had to have been there. :dunno: it was clear cut to me but then again i'm just a country boy and know little of such things :tup: maybe I should step into the realm of high tech red neck and gain an understanding.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 29, 2015, 09:06:46 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on October 29, 2015, 09:15:50 AM
Post by: Chappy84 on October 29, 2015, 02:43:16 PM
Boy, this thread went sideways in a hurry. From questioning his contact with a drone apparently out in the middle of nowhere to judgements on the shot taken (I'm very sure all of the rest of us have never taken a less than perfect shot under perfect circumstances :chuckle:), he seems like a total villain all of a sudden. Chappy, the experts have weighed in. You've been convicted in an internet court of your peers of heinous crimes (insert gavel sound here). :yike:I may be a country boy but even I know a lot of people passing judgment usually do so while sitting in front of the computer drinking hot chocolate in their bunny slippers and intermittently popping pimples in a hand held mirror. I'll stick to my face to face judgments, beer, carharts and woods. :yike: haha kidden I'm fine with opinions makes no diff to me............I was there.
Post by: CoryTDF on October 29, 2015, 02:53:27 PM
Boy, this thread went sideways in a hurry. From questioning his contact with a drone apparently out in the middle of nowhere to judgements on the shot taken (I'm very sure all of the rest of us have never taken a less than perfect shot under perfect circumstances :chuckle:), he seems like a total villain all of a sudden. Chappy, the experts have weighed in. You've been convicted in an internet court of your peers of heinous crimes (insert gavel sound here). :yike:I may be a country boy but even I know a lot of people passing judgment usually do so while sitting in front of the computer drinking hot chocolate in their bunny slippers and intermittently popping pimples in a hand held mirror. I'll stick to my face to face judgments, beer, carharts and woods. :yike: haha kidden I'm fine with opinions makes no diff to me............I was there.
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Post by: pianoman9701 on October 29, 2015, 03:11:28 PM
Boy, this thread went sideways in a hurry. From questioning his contact with a drone apparently out in the middle of nowhere to judgements on the shot taken (I'm very sure all of the rest of us have never taken a less than perfect shot under perfect circumstances :chuckle:), he seems like a total villain all of a sudden. Chappy, the experts have weighed in. You've been convicted in an internet court of your peers of heinous crimes (insert gavel sound here). :yike:I may be a country boy but even I know a lot of people passing judgment usually do so while sitting in front of the computer drinking hot chocolate in their bunny slippers and intermittently popping pimples in a hand held mirror. I'll stick to my face to face judgments, beer, carharts and woods. :yike: haha kidden I'm fine with opinions makes no diff to me............I was there.
Oh, I didn't know I was taking sides with a redneck! :yike: Nevermind! :chuckle: (j/k).
Post by: DRobnsn on October 29, 2015, 09:23:06 PM
She was living in a room with three other individuals, one of them was a male, and the other two, well hell the other two females. God only knows what they were up to in there, and furthermore Susan I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that all four of them habitually smoked marijuana cigarettes......reefers.
:chuckle: Good one!
Post by: PA BEN on October 31, 2015, 06:48:00 AM
Post by: bearpaw on November 01, 2015, 01:01:09 PM
Washington should also allow the use of leashed tracking dogs for retrieval of wounded game which 38 other states allow. However that is an unrelated issue.
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Completely agree, we are using a blood tracking dog in Idaho and it's great, you can recover the animals that die just a little farther off than you could track them visually.
I admit I didn't read every post so maybe I missed something. But if this was just some guy out innocently flying his drone for recreation I don't see the outrage. Someone has just as much right to fly his drone as a hunter does going hunting. Yes it's very unfortunate it affected a hunt, but unless it was intentional it was probably just a matter of bad luck, being in the wrong spot at the wrong time. It would have been no different if a semi went by on the highway and happened to use his jake brake to slow down and it scared the buck! Are you going to shoot the semi? Gentlemen we all need to share the outdoors with other users. :dunno:
I guess you had to have been there. :dunno: it was clear cut to me but then again i'm just a country boy and know little of such things :tup: maybe I should step into the realm of high tech red neck and gain an understanding.
I was only trying to point out that it could have been incidental? I agree with kfhunter and a few others regarding rules on drones used in hunting and/or animal or hunter harassment.