Post by: steeliedrew on November 08, 2015, 10:33:08 PM
Pics and videos were taken through my buddies' Vortex Viper spotter with an iPhone on a phoneskope. We were about 120 yards away.
Anyhow, I've been wondering what this buck would score? And how bout age class? Hopefully Boneaddict will see this thread and chime in also. So please tell me about this deer. I really don't know anything about scoring bucks or judging age class and am interested in learning. Also, did anyone kill him during modern? The reason I ask is cause during archery we had the basin to ourselves! Fast forward to the modern opener and there was 11 trucks at the trailhead!!! We were going to try and fill my buddies' general modern tag on one of the brutes in the basin. What a disappointment that was...
Drew
We call him "Krusty" due to the little crab claw he was on his right side.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi630.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu22%2F206turboballs%2FDAC2BCD7-D0AD-48A3-AC72-E74E3DC504E5.png.jpeg&hash=9dc2006b592d9a09b7a73625c473df1e67a665cf)
Same deer:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi630.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu22%2F206turboballs%2F82021B81-3CC5-4A3E-BC78-D1D3A9061FFB.png.jpeg&hash=11dd7fe70419f11df06c9e38a5ea082fa9bc63b8)
One of the bucks that Krusty was with in July:
https://youtu.be/Mst8EiZ7EiM (https://youtu.be/Mst8EiZ7EiM)
My buddy swears that the buck in the video link below is the same buck as the above link but I've always felt it is Krusty:
https://youtu.be/ulDjEbErc1A (https://youtu.be/ulDjEbErc1A)
Thanks for looking and for any insight on score, age class, and if Krusty is still alive. :tup:
Post by: steeliedrew on November 08, 2015, 10:34:45 PM
Thanks.
Drew
Post by: bobcat on November 08, 2015, 10:39:54 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 08, 2015, 10:43:34 PM
Post by: crowinghen on November 08, 2015, 10:51:14 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 08, 2015, 10:54:30 PM
what an incredible deer! Hope you get him next year!
I'd be pumped if any of our group gets him or one of his buddies. There's good genetics in that Basin for sure. :tup:
Post by: UBA on November 08, 2015, 10:58:25 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 09, 2015, 12:31:02 AM
Great buck I would guess him around 180 and 5 and half years old. doesn't look to old to me but I could be way off. I would be excited as all heck to get up there next year. There is no telling what he could turn into.
It appears to be missing a Rg4, I'd be shocked if it went 160 :twocents:
Post by: MtnMuley on November 09, 2015, 12:55:38 AM
Post by: jdb on November 09, 2015, 02:54:45 AM
It appears to be missing a Rg4, I'd be shocked if it went 160 :twocents:
[/quote] I agree completely, great buck though
Post by: Timberstalker on November 09, 2015, 05:11:03 AM
For what's it's worth, you'd have killed a good buck on a general season tag, regardless of score.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 09, 2015, 05:11:29 AM
That buck is dead.
Pics or it didn't happen. :hello:
Post by: MtnMuley on November 09, 2015, 06:18:53 AM
Post by: X-Force on November 09, 2015, 06:47:48 AM
Like I said, he's definately dead. :hello:
How wide did he end up being?
Post by: steeliedrew on November 09, 2015, 07:01:58 AM
Like I said, he's definately dead. :hello:
I'd like to say congrats to the hunter but without pics I'm hard pressed on that. :tup: Care to send me a PM? If anything a PM of what unit he was allegedly killed in? If you're right on the unit then I'm more inclined to believe the story. :sry:
Post by: dune on November 09, 2015, 07:08:11 AM
Post by: GUscottie on November 09, 2015, 10:55:43 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 09, 2015, 11:02:55 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 09, 2015, 11:03:45 AM
I would say your in the 190s To about 230 wide deer but fronts are week and same withe back forks good deer tthrough
You're probably somewhat unfamiliar with how mule deer are scored. It's a great buck but not close to 190. Not close to 180.
Huge frame and velvet are kind of deceptive in this case.
Post by: M_ray on November 09, 2015, 11:07:23 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 09, 2015, 11:10:29 AM
Still a nice buck. I'd take him just about anywhere and anytime.
Post by: huntnphool on November 09, 2015, 11:32:18 AM
Mains 22-21
g1's 2-2 "being generous"
g2's 16-16
g3's 8-8
g4's 0-4
Mass 37 "being generous"
Spread 22
159 gross
Post by: MtnMuley on November 09, 2015, 11:48:14 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 09, 2015, 12:12:06 PM
Over 33" wide and definitely over 160"
So MtnMuley, seeing as how I've posted these pics and video of this deer in his live state, I'd say it's safe to assume that I know of a certain basin that holds good deer. I'd love to see a pic of the one that either you killed or the one that you know of that was killed, that you are saying is for sure this deer. I'm not sure where the problem lies with that since I already know where deer like this live. :dunno: It isn't like you're giving something secret up by posting a picture of a dead deer. Please feel free to shoot me a PM if need be. I'm also curious as to what elevation the deer was shot at? :tup:
And heck, why not post a pic of said buck on this thread for all to see what he looks like hard horned? Me and addicted2hunting saw him and his buddies without velvet but have no pictures from that day.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 09, 2015, 06:01:12 PM
If a harvest pic surfaces of this deer that would be cool. If some lucky Hunter did kill him, I think it should be celebrated and pics should be shared. He's a great deer. I know the basin we found him in holds more like him, cause I've seen them. 8) so I'll only cry a little. :'(
Post by: USMC86 on November 09, 2015, 06:06:20 PM
Post by: tgomez on November 09, 2015, 07:31:44 PM
Post by: Dr. Death on November 09, 2015, 07:49:54 PM
Post by: WARHORSE on November 09, 2015, 08:14:13 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 09, 2015, 08:55:58 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 09, 2015, 09:34:45 PM
So all this talk about him being killed but no pics? What is the problem with posting a harvest shot? :dunno: If he was killed i'm happy as hell for the lucky Hunter and would love to see a pic. :tup:
:yeah:
And then we'd also know the actual score. :tup:
Post by: UBA on November 09, 2015, 09:47:47 PM
Several differnt people say he is dead and no pic. Come on guys someone has a pic. No pic so I say he is still running around the hills. Atleast PM steelie a pic so he can know for sure.
Post by: C-Money on November 09, 2015, 10:53:20 PM
Post by: DeerHarvester on November 10, 2015, 04:14:06 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 05:20:23 AM
And then we'd also know the actual score. :tup:
:yeah:
Post by: Miles on November 10, 2015, 05:22:16 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 05:26:59 AM
Dead
And another vote for him being dead...yet...no pics? You folks out there seem to be guarding it like it's some huge secret. :dunno: Is it cause I'm a west sider you you're mad that I know where the big boys live? :sry: I've seen one, maybe two bucks posted this year that broke the 200" mark so what's the big deal about posting pictures of a 160ish buck? He is a fantastic deer and should be celebrated by all if he was taken. If someone knows of it on Facebook just screen shot it and get it up here. :tup:
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 06:15:00 AM
Jeez...people get so worked up over score.
Are you serious?
I don't think anyone's "worked up." Just would be interesting to know what it actually scores, since that's what this thread was about and we're all guessing at the score based on a couple of pictures.
If it was killed, apparently they didn't take any pictures.
Post by: Miles on November 10, 2015, 06:46:05 AM
Post by: Miles on November 10, 2015, 06:48:36 AM
Post by: predatorG on November 10, 2015, 06:58:46 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 07:02:20 AM
Billythekidrock shot it. I'm not sure why he's refusing to post pics or a story.
I'd love to say congrats to Billythekidrock but without pics that's tough. I think it would actually be really cool to see a harvest pic of this exact deer given my brief history with him.
Also folks, I never did say what GMU I found him in. 8)
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 10, 2015, 07:04:41 AM
So all this talk about him being killed but no pics? What is the problem with posting a harvest shot? :dunno: If he was killed i'm happy as hell for the lucky Hunter and would love to see a pic. :tup:my guess is because there is no pic. Either because it was shady or that it didn't happen :chuckle:
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on November 10, 2015, 07:13:36 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 10, 2015, 08:01:46 AM
Post by: Elkpiss on November 10, 2015, 08:15:06 AM
So all this talk about him being killed but no pics? What is the problem with posting a harvest shot? :dunno: If he was killed i'm happy as hell for the lucky Hunter and would love to see a pic. :tup:
If Mtnmuley says he is dead, then he is dead... :sry:
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on November 10, 2015, 09:53:16 AM
Oh, there's pics. And, he's better than most here think. Steelie, you went about it the wrong way to get a pic....
How did he go about it the wrong way :dunno: Not being argumentative but would really like to know. His thread, his pics and a lot of people saying "score wise" that the buck is not that strong. (obviously I am paraphrasing a tad as he has a awesome frame which has been mentioned several times). Including comments from guys that have a known history on this board for being trophy mule deer aficionados. Then we have claims of the bucks demise, and further claims such as yours that he is much better than is being guessed. Just my opinion, but if Mtn Muley killed it or knows who did, and didn't want to share any details or pics, then he would have been wise to not post anything at all.
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 10, 2015, 09:58:33 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 10:02:37 AM
Oh, there's pics. And, he's better than most here think. Steelie, you went about it the wrong way to get a pic....
I'm not sure how I went about it the wrong way??? :dunno: I meant no disrespect in anything I wrote. I simply shared an AWESOME deer that some buddies and I found and asked a few questions. I PM'd MtnMuley yesterday and did not receive a response. I have to give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he doesn't know he has a PM or hasn't had time to respond. :tup: But I'd still like to see pics. I think WE all would. :)
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 10:06:22 AM
I don't know who or why things got cross here, but I'd sure love to see pics of that buck hard horned. He's awesome. Congratulations to the hunter!
:yeah: That's what I'm saying. I think we all just want to see a pic. He's a great deer. I'm thankful to have been able to scout and hunt him the little that I did.
Post by: C-Money on November 10, 2015, 10:17:59 AM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 10, 2015, 10:26:52 AM
For what it is worth my guess would have been 155-162 and a shooter all day long if I had a chance.
Post by: M_ray on November 10, 2015, 10:27:19 AM
BTW I'm not being disrespectful when I score, I will always score very conservative and want to be pleasantly surprised that an animal exceeds my expectations. I don't want to be that guy that claims everything is 10-20" bigger than it really is ;)
In other words I'd rather be under than over! He's a buck I wouldn't pass on just about anywhere, thanks for sharing ...good luck!
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 10:29:46 AM
Again, If I offended anyone involved with this deer it was never my intention. I might have asked something along the lines of "are east side guys mad that a westsider knows where the big boys are?" but did not mean to cause trouble. I was just having a little fun when I said that cause it seemed to me that MtnMuley was having some fun on my behalf. Can we please put this thread back on track? A picture would be a step in the right direction if someone has permission to post one or if the hunter themselves wants to come forward with story and pics.
:sry: If i rubbed anyone wrong. :tup:
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 10:32:30 AM
Congrats to Billythekidrock, buck of a lifetime, pic or no pic.
:chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on November 10, 2015, 10:38:15 AM
BTW I'm not being disrespectful when I score, I will always score very conservative and want to be pleasantly surprised that an animal exceeds my expectations. I don't want to be that guy that claims everything is 10-20" bigger than it really is ;)
+1, I'm conservative on scoring as well but am generally within a couple inches, and try to post up the measurements to show how I came up with my guess. There is never disrespect intended, just a opinion. :tup:
Post by: Gringo31 on November 10, 2015, 10:43:10 AM
I'd say that buck goes 35-37 wide outside. (Assuming outside of his ears is 23")
Beautiful creature! :tup:
Post by: Timberstalker on November 10, 2015, 10:46:02 AM
I don't know anything other than the live pics.
I'd say that buck goes 35-37 wide outside. (Assuming outside of his ears is 23")
Beautiful creature! :tup:
Wow, I figured he was 30" wide (at very very best) outside spread. I don't possible see a yard stick width there.
Post by: superdown on November 10, 2015, 10:48:40 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on November 10, 2015, 10:57:27 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 11:59:40 AM
Pretty positive that is a Wyoming deer, but I didn't read all 2 pages.
Home grown in WA. 8) When I first saw him I went... :yike:
Post by: cbond3318 on November 10, 2015, 12:02:55 PM
Pretty positive that is a Wyoming deer, but I didn't read all 2 pages.
Home grown in WA. 8) When I first saw him I went... :yike:
:tung: I know , just thought I'd bring a little levity to a derailment by adding a derailment. :sry: It is an A typical Bad A buck!! My knees would be knocking if I had him in my spotter!
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 10, 2015, 12:05:59 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 12:12:06 PM
You have mail. 8)
Post by: LDennis24 on November 10, 2015, 12:16:54 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 10, 2015, 12:17:49 PM
And I missed the sucker at 38 yds.... but yes the velvet makes him look much larger...my final thoughts are 170...my stepdads buck was similar in frame but not as tall in the back and his net score was 168 and some change...
What would be helpful is if all of you that guess a total score would include your breakdown. :tup:
Post by: Miles on November 10, 2015, 01:56:55 PM
I really wish Billythekidrock would just post a picture of it with the official score sheet. :dunno:
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 10, 2015, 02:02:53 PM
I would say your in the 190s To about 230 wide deer but fronts are week and same withe back forks good deer tthrough
I will always score very conservative and want to be pleasantly surprised that an animal exceeds my expectations. I don't want to be that guy that claims everything is 10-20" bigger
The answer probably lies somewhere in between 160" and 230" :tup:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 10, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 10, 2015, 02:11:04 PM
All that I have gathered from this thread is that someone from the forum poached a 37" 3x4 at night in Wyoming, and a half dozen other members are in on it. Until photographic evidence is presented to prove otherwise, this must be the truth :peep: :stirthepot: :chuckle: 8)
Duh.
Post by: Reidus on November 10, 2015, 02:14:42 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: cbond3318 on November 10, 2015, 02:32:35 PM
All that I have gathered from this thread is that someone from the forum poached a 37" 3x4 at night in Wyoming, and a half dozen other members are in on it. Until photographic evidence is presented to prove otherwise, this must be the truth :peep: :stirthepot: :chuckle: 8)
:chuckle:
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Definitely a high fence buck being fed horn growing minerals. What's it cost to shoot something like this?
.
:chuckle:
You caught me. He's in my back yard right now. He's yours for $20k
Post by: cbond3318 on November 10, 2015, 02:41:55 PM
Definitely a high fence buck being fed horn growing minerals. What's it cost to shoot something like this?
.
:chuckle:
You caught me. He's in my back yard right now. He's yours for $20k
Shoot 20K? There is a shoulder mount of a similar buck down at Goodwill right now for 70 $. And I get to make up my own story.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
Definitely a high fence buck being fed horn growing minerals. What's it cost to shoot something like this?
.
:chuckle:
You caught me. He's in my back yard right now. He's yours for $20k
Shoot 20K? There is a shoulder mount of a similar buck down at Goodwill right now for 70 $. And I get to make up my own story.
High fence ain't for everyone. ;)
Post by: Rainier10 on November 10, 2015, 03:09:30 PM
Not sure why you are still talking about this, I read on the internet this buck is dead. :dunno:Definitely a high fence buck being fed horn growing minerals. What's it cost to shoot something like this?
.
:chuckle:
You caught me. He's in my back yard right now. He's yours for $20k
Shoot 20K? There is a shoulder mount of a similar buck down at Goodwill right now for 70 $. And I get to make up my own story.
High fence ain't for everyone. ;)
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 10, 2015, 03:18:08 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 10, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
He is dead... Sorry guys... I'm not telling the official green score... Keep a look out in the B&C top ten.....I burnt the pictures too....
Wake up, wake up, from your dream/nightmare. It's a nice buck but not B&C top ten nice! :chuckle:
Post by: MtnMuley on November 10, 2015, 03:47:26 PM
:chuckle: This is strange. Stir up this thread, claim a buck is dead, and then feel to offended to post a pick of the trophy? C'mon guys....life is to short. Congrats to Billythekidrock, buck of a lifetime, pic or no pic.
Some of you guys crack me up. It's pretty sad actually. In the original post, he asks the question if anybody knows anything about this buck or somebody harvested him. I simply replied, "he's dead". I answered a question he asked. How is that "stirring the pot"? I didn't shoot the buck, nor would I ever post pictures of somebody else. It's actually funny you make this comment c-money, because you happened to be the guy who posted a picture of me and my buck back in 09ish that somehow you got through a text. I immediately had it removed, and had a bad taste in my mouth about pics on the Internet being posted by people you don't even know. Get it now? :hello:
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 10, 2015, 04:00:22 PM
;) 8) :chuckle:He is dead... Sorry guys... I'm not telling the official green score... Keep a look out in the B&C top ten.....I burnt the pictures too....
Wake up, wake up, from your dream/nightmare. It's a nice buck but not B&C top ten nice! :chuckle:
Post by: C-Money on November 10, 2015, 04:25:59 PM
:chuckle: This is strange. Stir up this thread, claim a buck is dead, and then feel to offended to post a pick of the trophy? C'mon guys....life is to short. Congrats to Billythekidrock, buck of a lifetime, pic or no pic.
Some of you guys crack me up. It's pretty sad actually. In the original post, he asks the question if anybody knows anything about this buck or somebody harvested him. I simply replied, "he's dead". I answered a question he asked. How is that "stirring the pot"? I didn't shoot the buck, nor would I ever post pictures of somebody else. It's actually funny you make this comment c-money, because you happened to be the guy who posted a picture of me and my buck back in 09ish that somehow you got through a text. I immediately had it removed, and had a bad taste in my mouth about pics on the Internet being posted by people you don't even know. Get it now? :hello:
Having a hard time remembering that one MTNmuley......but hope you feel better someday, last thing I want to do is hurt someone or stop them from posting stories/photos. I may just be guilty of what you say, just don't recall. Our opinion of stirring the pot must differ, cause what I read seemed pot stirish to me from the aspect of, that is it. Nothing more. Usually one gives a story to aid in the understanding of the topic....Guess you said he is dead, gave a width, and quit there. Nothing else. The thread got a little stirred up with no further info. Folks want more! No skin off my nose though.
Post by: 2labs on November 10, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
:chuckle: This is strange. Stir up this thread, claim a buck is dead, and then feel to offended to post a pick of the trophy? C'mon guys....life is to short. Congrats to Billythekidrock, buck of a lifetime, pic or no pic.
Some of you guys crack me up. It's pretty sad actually. In the original post, he asks the question if anybody knows anything about this buck or somebody harvested him. I simply replied, "he's dead". I answered a question he asked. How is that "stirring the pot"? I didn't shoot the buck, nor would I ever post pictures of somebody else. It's actually funny you make this comment c-money, because you happened to be the guy who posted a picture of me and my buck back in 09ish that somehow you got through a text. I immediately had it removed, and had a bad taste in my mouth about pics on the Internet being posted by people you don't even know. Get it now? :hello:
Having a hard time remembering that one MTNmuley......but hope you feel better someday, last thing I want to do is hurt someone or stop them from posting stories/photos. I may just be guilty of what you say, just don't recall. Our opinion of stirring the pot must differ, cause what I read seemed pot stirish to me... no skin off my nose though.
Whoa whoa whoa, is this the infamous "C" post?!?! :yike: :dunno: :yike:
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
:chuckle: This is strange. Stir up this thread, claim a buck is dead, and then feel to offended to post a pick of the trophy? C'mon guys....life is to short. Congrats to Billythekidrock, buck of a lifetime, pic or no pic.
Some of you guys crack me up. It's pretty sad actually. In the original post, he asks the question if anybody knows anything about this buck or somebody harvested him. I simply replied, "he's dead". I answered a question he asked. How is that "stirring the pot"? I didn't shoot the buck, nor would I ever post pictures of somebody else. It's actually funny you make this comment c-money, because you happened to be the guy who posted a picture of me and my buck back in 09ish that somehow you got through a text. I immediately had it removed, and had a bad taste in my mouth about pics on the Internet being posted by people you don't even know. Get it now? :hello:
So...he's not dead? Here I was thinking you had shot him. I'm confused. You have 2 PM's by the way. :hello:
Post by: MtnMuley on November 10, 2015, 05:52:38 PM
Post by: HardCorpsHuntr on November 10, 2015, 06:01:59 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 06:23:00 PM
Honestly people, what's with the picture thing these days? People have gotten so weird. Half the reason to view a hunting and or fishing forum is to look at photos from people's adventures.
Glad this turned out like 90% of all threads on here. Derailed because of a few trolls.
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 10, 2015, 06:37:35 PM
Post by: C-Money on November 10, 2015, 08:08:30 PM
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Post by: MtnMuley on November 10, 2015, 08:17:53 PM
You guys are all a bunch of wierdosI certainly won't argue that :chuckle:
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Post by: crabcreekhunter on November 10, 2015, 08:25:21 PM
Post by: Jimmy33 on November 10, 2015, 08:32:45 PM
If the hunter doesn't want to post a picture or story leave it at that, maybe they aren't out for "keyboard" stardom and don't want the story and photos available to every hunter in washington. Nothing wrong with that, very nice frame on that guy but not much score wise.I agree but i still think the way the post is going is wierd
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Post by: _TONY_ on November 10, 2015, 08:42:48 PM
LOTS of big bucks never get posted, and I'm okay with that. It's a personal choice for the individual hunter to post or not to post their harvest (I'm not posting my buck). Posting another's harvest just to prove a point, is just wrong.
He sure is a nice buck, but spend enough time in those bowls and rocks and I'm sure you'll turn one up that's a lot bigger!!
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Post by: DUGANDEER on November 10, 2015, 08:53:23 PM
For what its worth... I know a 250" non typ that was taken by a local over around Winthrop... its an older fella....
How about a pic. I don't believe it w out a pic...lol :chuckle:
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 09:11:47 PM
I actually shot this buck(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F11%2F10%2F87a4266645f14e57d6d9c772249331eb.jpg&hash=50c7586ce5fe6675c231c641fa238993ae8e77fa)
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That's a great deer! Congrats and thanks for sharing and showing folks how to post pictures. :tup: Look everybody...He posted a picture on an interweb forum and SURVIVED! :chuckle:
Post by: X-Force on November 10, 2015, 09:13:17 PM
For what its worth... I know a 250" non typ that was taken by a local over around Winthrop... its an older fella....
How about a pic. I don't believe it w out a pic...lol :chuckle:
Any buck over 200" not making it online is almost more unbelievable then a 250" shot in the methow. But I've been wrong before.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 10, 2015, 09:21:05 PM
If the bucks dead, or not dead, it's probably not going to keep you from heading high up above the valley looking for him, or other bucks, is it? So, does it really matter? Keep at it!! :tup:
LOTS of big bucks never get posted, and I'm okay with that. It's a personal choice for the individual hunter to post or not to post their harvest (I'm not posting my buck). Posting another's harvest just to prove a point, is just wrong.
He sure is a nice buck, but spend enough time in those bowls and rocks and I'm sure you'll turn one up that's a lot bigger!!
For sure Tony. There's good genetics where he's from.
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 10, 2015, 09:21:13 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 10, 2015, 10:12:45 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 10:19:15 PM
Post by: M_ray on November 10, 2015, 10:29:04 PM
Well I think the picture Jimmy33 posted proves that the buck in question is dead.
Not the same deer ... Steeliedrew's buck is a 3 pt on its right and a 4 on the left ... Jimmy33's buck is the opposite.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 11, 2015, 05:09:40 AM
Well I think the picture Jimmy33 posted proves that the buck in question is dead.
Not the same deer ... Steeliedrew's buck is a 3 pt on its right and a 4 on the left ... Jimmy33's buck is the opposite.
:yeah:
Post by: steeliedrew on November 11, 2015, 05:37:58 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 11, 2015, 08:01:39 AM
One of the best things about this is all the assumption that he lives or lived (still a mystery) in the Valley area. Perhaps because in the 2nd video link I posted it shows the edge of an old burn? Well, lots of burns on the east side folks. ;) That buck migrated pretty far between September and October to have been killed in those units is what I'm saying. :twocents:
Well then, where did you see him?
Post by: Gringo31 on November 11, 2015, 09:16:13 AM
Someone doesn't want to share pics. Respect that! For many reasons people have not posted pics on a public forum. People who call out where they shot it by the background, who announce the area to everyone.
I see there are two choices. Acknowledge he's dead and move on, or spend all next year looking for an animal that is actually in someones living room. :twocents:
Post by: Jimmy33 on November 11, 2015, 09:32:59 AM
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Post by: steeliedrew on November 11, 2015, 10:31:14 AM
If MtnMuley says he's dead. I believe him.
Someone doesn't want to share pics. Respect that! For many reasons people have not posted pics on a public forum. People who call out where they shot it by the background, who announce the area to everyone.
I see there are two choices. Acknowledge he's dead and move on, or spend all next year looking for an animal that is actually in someones living room. :twocents:
Gringo,
I can respect it. whether I believe it or not because fact is I do not Know MtnMuley so I'd need to see a pic to know for sure. As for spending all year looking for a buck that's already on someone's wall...I won't be looking for Krusty specifically. Any legal buck will do. It just so happens where I go they're better than just "legal bucks". :tup:
Post by: WARHORSE on November 11, 2015, 10:39:19 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 11, 2015, 10:50:34 AM
I know mtnmuley if he says the bucks dead the buck is dead. And just because you saw somedeer in a basin once that doesnt really mean much. But have fun good luck!
I agree- the fact that you saw that big buck in that basin doesn't mean anything. So, knowing that, steeliedrew, could you PM me the location of that basin so I know where NOT to look?
Thanks, I just don't want to waste my time in an unproductive spot. :tup:
Post by: groundhog on November 11, 2015, 11:04:19 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 11, 2015, 11:05:24 AM
Post by: 7mmfan on November 11, 2015, 11:05:52 AM
Did I really just waste fifteen minutes on this....
Yes you did. You will never get those 15 minutes back either
Post by: M_ray on November 11, 2015, 11:16:53 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 11, 2015, 12:08:13 PM
I know mtnmuley if he says the bucks dead the buck is dead. And just because you saw somedeer in a basin once that doesnt really mean much. But have fun good luck!
Oh whats funny is that this isn't the first year that my group of hunting buddies has been on these bucks in that particular basin...Did I leave that out of the story? 8)
Look everybody :hello: I'm not trying to have a pissing match here. I was excited about this particular deer and genuinely wanted to learn a little about his score potential. I had been thinking all along that he had to be 180" all day but I don't know about scoring and it was brought to my attention in this thread that he's missing his right G4 and that he has shallow forks and that he possibly would only net around 160". I actually had to google what a G4 is. That's how much I don't know about antler configuration.
I do appreciate the positive comments and those who took time to educate me on this deer. I absolutely did not want this to turn in to what it did. :sry: :tup:
Post by: WARHORSE on November 11, 2015, 12:17:38 PM
Post by: kirkl on November 11, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
Alls iam sayin is this year was the last year you will hunt that buck. Mtnmuley knows his deer!
:yeah:
Post by: LDennis24 on November 11, 2015, 02:31:32 PM
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 11, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 11, 2015, 03:20:24 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 11, 2015, 03:32:26 PM
Alls iam sayin is this year was the last year you will hunt that buck. Mtnmuley knows his deer!
I'm ok with that. :tup: Like I've stated already numerous times on this thread, If someone was lucky enough to take that deer this year, I'm happy as hell for them. I'll admit that I was being a little too persistent in asking for pics and rubbing it in too hard about not receiving any but I was kind of joking around a little too. Sometimes people are a little too serious on these forums. I can respect that not everyone wants to plaster their ugly mugs all over the internet and not everyone feels the need to show off the animals they take though. To each their own. Anyhow, It seems like the general consensus is that he's a 160" deer. I understand why and have learned a little about deer antlers. That was mostly the point of this entire thread...TO LEARN! of course I wanted to know if someone shot him... and man what a "S" show that turned into. :chuckle:
Post by: C-Money on November 11, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
:chuckle: I learned my 3rd grade education has lead me to a life of photo theft. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: predatorG on November 11, 2015, 07:40:11 PM
Post by: Eli346 on November 11, 2015, 07:51:23 PM
Post by: Hawkeye2 on November 11, 2015, 07:54:25 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 11, 2015, 08:07:01 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2Fbonesbucks%2Fcloser_zpsk4v3lcp8.jpg&hash=84adcc758913aa53817e212c8e42cf3e070d975d)
Post by: ridgefire on November 11, 2015, 08:22:18 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 11, 2015, 08:31:59 PM
Dandy buck, bone :tup:
Post by: jackelope on November 11, 2015, 08:47:50 PM
I know mtnmuley if he says the bucks dead the buck is dead. And just because you saw somedeer in a basin once that doesnt really mean much. But have fun good luck!
Oh whats funny is that this isn't the first year that my group of hunting buddies has been on these bucks in that particular basin...Did I leave that out of the story? 8)
Look everybody :hello: I'm not trying to have a pissing match here. I was excited about this particular deer and genuinely wanted to learn a little about his score potential. I had been thinking all along that he had to be 180" all day but I don't know about scoring and it was brought to my attention in this thread that he's missing his right G4 and that he has shallow forks and that he possibly would only net around 160". I actually had to google what a G4 is. That's how much I don't know about antler configuration.
I do appreciate the positive comments and those who took time to educate me on this deer. I absolutely did not want this to turn in to what it did. :sry: :tup:
There are several people in this thread saying the buck in question is dead. It's not just MtnMuley saying it. I'm pretty sure what MtnMuley and everyone else who knows about this buck is doing by not posting pictures is showing the lucky hunter who maybe has not given permission to post their pictures the respect they deserve to not have their pictures posted all over the Internet. That used to be common courtesy. Now with the advent of social media and whatever else, it's a big shocker and causes multiple pages of banter and allegations of pot stirring. The responses in this thread are ridiculous if you ask me. If the hunter who killed this buck hasn't ok'd posting he pictures or he doesn't want to post someone else's pictures, then respect the guys wishes and let it go.
If MtnMuley says that buck is dead, then I'd bet the house that the buck is dead.
Post by: bobcat on November 11, 2015, 08:59:02 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 11, 2015, 09:08:43 PM
Steeliedrew's posts were just fine and he was very respectful in all that he said. I felt bad that a couple people were giving him such a hard time. He only asked if someone could post a picture if they had one. Not a big deal. Some of the comments directed at him were in very poor taste and unnecessary. There was no need to insult him over nothing. A few people keep saying to trust what mtnmuley says. Why? We don't know him personally. Just because he says that particular buck is dead doesn't mean it is. I'm getting tired of hearing that. If he doesn't have a picture or can't post it, thats fine. But there was no excuse for some of the things that he said.Never thought I'd say this, but I gotta kinda agree with Bobcat :chuckle:. Steelie's posts never came off aggressive or disrespectful to me. He found a good buck and was excited about sharing it. If I had history with a deer and someone claimed it was dead I would want to see it too. If anything, just for closure. LOTS of bucks all over the west with that antler configuration, I would be hard pressed to believe it was the same buck without seeing pics, AND pming with the lucky hunter to confirm area.
That being said, knowone should post others pics without permission. That aint cool 8)
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 11, 2015, 09:09:21 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2015, 09:45:41 PM
A few people keep saying to trust what mtnmuley says. Why? We don't know him personally. Just because he says that particular buck is dead doesn't mean it is.
FWIW, I do know him personally and the buck has indeed been tagged. :twocents:
Post by: bobcat on November 11, 2015, 09:49:30 PM
A few people keep saying to trust what mtnmuley says. Why? We don't know him personally. Just because he says that particular buck is dead doesn't mean it is.
FWIW, I do know him personally and the buck has indeed been tagged. :twocents:
Or one that looks like it. Regardless of that, there was no need to treat the original poster disrespectfully as he did. No excuse for that at all. It was a great thread until Mtnmuley jumped in.
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2015, 09:59:00 PM
A few people keep saying to trust what mtnmuley says. Why? We don't know him personally. Just because he says that particular buck is dead doesn't mean it is.
FWIW, I do know him personally and the buck has indeed been tagged. :twocents:
Or one that looks like it. Regardless of that, there was no need to treat the original poster disrespectfully as he did. No excuse for that at all. It was a great thread until Mtnmuley jumped in.
Your opinion on how it was handled is your right to voice, I'm simply backing up his statement that the buck in question has been tagged, carry on with your character assassination/thread derailment as you see fit. :dunno:
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 11, 2015, 10:00:37 PM
A few people keep saying to trust what mtnmuley says. Why? We don't know him personally. Just because he says that particular buck is dead doesn't mean it is.
FWIW, I do know him personally and the buck has indeed been tagged. :twocents:
Or one that looks like it. Regardless of that, there was no need to treat the original poster disrespectfully as he did. No excuse for that at all. It was a great thread until Mtnmuley jumped in.
I'm not sure what thread you were reading, but I saw several posts from steeliedrew that were calling MtnMuley a liar in an attempt to get him to post a pic. Those were way more disrespectful than anything MtnMuley said. Some highlights in case you missed them:
"Pics or it didn't happen. :hello:"
"If you're right on the unit then I'm more inclined to believe the story."
"I'm going to go ahead and say the I do not believe you. And we will leave it at that. Good thing I know where deer like this, summer year after year."
:dunno:
Post by: UBA on November 11, 2015, 10:05:13 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 11, 2015, 10:06:23 PM
Holy cow. Step away for awhile and this thing has gone all side ways. Great buck, congrats to whoever shot it
Which is exactly how it should have progressed. ;)
Post by: bobcat on November 11, 2015, 10:10:21 PM
Next time, if people would just use common sense and be polite, it wouldn't get to this point.
Post by: muleyslayer on November 11, 2015, 10:17:34 PM
I'm just hear for the horn porn if it ever pops up :dunno::yeah:
Post by: M_ray on November 11, 2015, 10:25:51 PM
A few people keep saying to trust what mtnmuley says. Why? We don't know him personally. Just because he says that particular buck is dead doesn't mean it is.
FWIW, I do know him personally and the buck has indeed been tagged. :twocents:
Or one that looks like it. Regardless of that, there was no need to treat the original poster disrespectfully as he did. No excuse for that at all. It was a great thread until Mtnmuley jumped in.
Wow really? Ill agree with some of what you say but I don't see where things went sideways just cause MM posted. Is the anger towards MM cause he wouldn't say how he knew the deer was dead? Cause we all know why he wont post pics but I don't see where he was disrespectful as you put it. :dunno:
I was making the comment above when you made your last comment BOB ... So you're angry with him cause he didn't say what you wanted to hear? :o
Post by: bobcat on November 11, 2015, 10:32:39 PM
There also were insults in this thread that violated forum rules but I don't want to get into that.
I'm done with this.
Tip for all reading this: answer your PM's.
Post by: KFhunter on November 11, 2015, 10:45:27 PM
couple things
1) It's not cool to post pictures of animals you yourself did not kill without permission. This includes all forms of media, PM, texts ect.
2) It's not cool to apply pressure to get someone to bend, calling their integrity into question or inferring they are a liar or mistaken is really not cool.
I wouldn't answer a PM either, it's just more pressure to get you to bend and show a pic or give out information that's not yours to give.
Post by: bobcat on November 11, 2015, 10:53:36 PM
Steeliedrew DID share a picture, of a very nice buck. And that's what we're all on this site for. To see him disrespected for starting a great thread and simply asking a few questions, is not what I like to see. I bet he won't want to start another thread like that in the future, and either will a lot of other people who read it. My respect is all for steeliedrew, he took the insults all very well and played nice throughout the entire thread.
Post by: KFhunter on November 11, 2015, 11:14:38 PM
We looked at this from the opposite end of the spectrum. Where you seen a guy being polite and asking for more information, I seen a person getting called a liar and getting pressured to release information he wasn't given permission to share.
Some people expect their word to be good enough (it's dead) and that's the end of it. Your welcome.
Funny thing is I can't even view the pictures, so I'm solely responding to how the thread has progressed and found it disconcerting. I want people to share, but I don't want people to be pressured to share what isn't theirs to share. I'll come back later when I can see the pictures :tup:
Post by: grundy53 on November 12, 2015, 05:15:16 AM
I unfortunately read this entire thread :(Exactly
couple things
1) It's not cool to post pictures of animals you yourself did not kill without permission. This includes all forms of media, PM, texts ect.
2) It's not cool to apply pressure to get someone to bend, calling their integrity into question or inferring they are a liar or mistaken is really not cool.
I wouldn't answer a PM either, it's just more pressure to get you to bend and show a pic or give out information that's not yours to give.
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Post by: grundy53 on November 12, 2015, 05:15:36 AM
I shouldn't have let that post get past the censor, I edited it.Agreed.
We looked at this from the opposite end of the spectrum. Where you seen a guy being polite and asking for more information, I seen a person getting called a liar and getting pressured to release information he wasn't given permission to share.
Some people expect their word to be good enough (it's dead) and that's the end of it. Your welcome.
Funny thing is I can't even view the pictures, so I'm solely responding to how the thread has progressed and found it disconcerting. I want people to share, but I don't want people to be pressured to share what isn't theirs to share. I'll come back later when I can see the pictures :tup:
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Post by: jackelope on November 12, 2015, 05:36:16 AM
I unfortunately read this entire thread :(
couple things
1) It's not cool to post pictures of animals you yourself did not kill without permission. This includes all forms of media, PM, texts ect.
2) It's not cool to apply pressure to get someone to bend, calling their integrity into question or inferring they are a liar or mistaken is really not cool.
I wouldn't answer a PM either, it's just more pressure to get you to bend and show a pic or give out information that's not yours to give.
This.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 05:44:32 AM
Secondly, Folks....A LOT of the time on hear people read WAY TOO far into things. When I said "pics or it didn't happen :hello:" that was simply some friendly forum banter to get a laugh and maybe a more long winded response from MtnMuley than "he's dead" the response I got from what I posted was a tune to that of a response I'd get from openly insulting someone in a hurtful way. I NEVER intended to hurt or offend. Bobcat said it best when he said that I have a history with this deer, although brief but a very exciting history to say the least. And YOU BET I was curious when someone I've never shook hands with tells me he's dead. I said it a few posts ago and maybe all did not see it but I did admit to being TOO persistent in asking for pics. I'm man enough to admit that.
There hasn't been a day that has passed since I last saw that deer that I do not think of him. I had him and his bachelor group at 76 yards with a perfect wind, ready to run an arrow through one of them, in OPEN COUNTRY! If that's not exciting I don't know what is. So of course I'm curious when I hear of his possible demise. But I'm certainly not angry towards the Hunter. Not at all. In fact I'd be overjoyed to congratulate them on a serious accomplishment. And a WELL deserved one at that.
This is my 4th year of hunting. Period. I've been bow hunting from the beginning. I took a Muley doe on my 2nd year but haven't killed since. Lost a cow I shot last year. STEEP downhill 40 yard shot. Hit her high in the void. Never found first blood. Only found the arrow covered in fat with blood on the fletchings. And I've had countless encounters other than that with deer, elk, and bear. The point of what I just wrote is that I wanted to say that it's LARGELY due to the helpful folks on this forum that a guy who didn't grow up hunting and had no mentors in his family can have accelerated success. I come on here to learn. If you took the time to go through the history of threads I have started and participated in you'll see that I'm not a Troll.
Oh and KFhunter, if you want to see pics I'd be happy to email them to you. Just shoot me a PM if you'd like. :tup:
Post by: jackelope on November 12, 2015, 06:44:42 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 06:56:08 AM
Like a bunch of over emotional and overanalyzing women around this place anymore. Turn the computer off and go hunting or something
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 06:57:41 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 12, 2015, 07:00:14 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 12, 2015, 07:00:43 AM
LMAO!!! Really guys!?!!! If I had a dime for every time someone has posted the phrase " pics or it didn't happen" followed by some little emoji character I could retire! Including from folks posting on this thread. If you find this offensive I think it's time to step away from the social media machine.
Like a bunch of over emotional and overanalyzing women around this place anymore. Turn the computer off and go hunting or something
:yeah: You would think it was March.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 07:02:19 AM
Oh crap, I forgot to add this little guy :chuckle: hopefully now no one is offended by my last post. :tup:
:yeah: I was feverishly typing an angry response until you added a :chuckle: to your post... ;) LOL
Life is too short folks. Like BLRman said... "turn off the computer and go hunt something" :tup:
DISCLAIMER............... NON OF THE ABOVE IS MEANT TO OFFEND ANYONE. :IBCOOL: :hello: :IBCOOL:
Post by: FWilliams on November 12, 2015, 07:06:22 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 12, 2015, 07:10:20 AM
He who has the last word wins right.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 07:19:11 AM
For the deer or the thread..... LOLword.
He who has the last word wins right.
OK what's my prize? :chuckle:
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 12, 2015, 07:21:19 AM
For the deer or the thread..... LOLword.
He who has the last word wins right.
OK what's my prize? :chuckle:
Your the sole recipient of the pictures of the dead/ not so dead deer in question.
Post by: Limhangerslayer on November 12, 2015, 07:31:53 AM
For the deer or the thread..... LOLword.
He who has the last word wins right.
Shouldn't you be selling pop? :peep: :peep: get out of your car and get to work. I'm going to finish my can of Coke on my way down to Granger
OK what's my prize? :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 07:34:26 AM
YUSSSS!!!!!!!!! Now that is a prize! I love all forms of horn porn! We'll except blacktails, they are just miniature mule deer and really not much to look at :peep: 8) :yike: :IBCOOL: :twocents: :chuckle:For the deer or the thread..... LOLword.
He who has the last word wins right.
OK what's my prize? :chuckle:
Your the sole recipient of the pictures of the dead/ not so dead deer in question.
I hope I used enough of those little guy thingy's 8)
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 07:35:05 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 07:35:42 AM
This offends me. I am offended >:(For the deer or the thread..... LOLword.
He who has the last word wins right.
Shouldn't you be selling pop? :peep: :peep: get out of your car and get to work. I'm going to finish my can of Coke on my way down to Granger
OK what's my prize? :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 07:37:36 AM
loud noises.LMAO! This literally made me spit my ice cold, refreshing, made in America, Pepsi product all over! We'll played.
Post by: boneaddict on November 12, 2015, 07:38:19 AM
(I'm not allowed emoticons anymore, I've had my priviledges revoked)
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 07:40:37 AM
Karl, I heard that Coke is good for cleaning up stains
:peep:
Post by: LDennis24 on November 12, 2015, 07:43:51 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 12, 2015, 07:49:12 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 08:05:41 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 08:06:21 AM
You know I'd like to be able to complain about this thread going "X" number of pages without any pictures but it actually started with pics so that complaint is out the window >:(It's true, coke is the worst!
Karl, I heard that Coke is good for cleaning up stains
:peep:
Post by: boneaddict on November 12, 2015, 08:07:47 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 08:10:42 AM
Looks like you pulled a shoulder mount off the wall and snapped a pic. Needs more background to prove it isn't fake. Bucklucky and Shirrod could probably pull that off.:chuckle: I had to crop the picture you guys wouldn't figure out which state he is from. Or is it a shoulder mount........ 8)
Post by: boneaddict on November 12, 2015, 08:12:58 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on November 12, 2015, 08:13:39 AM
Post by: C-Money on November 12, 2015, 08:13:56 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 08:16:23 AM
Post by: h20hunter on November 12, 2015, 08:19:42 AM
It could have been a deer you shot in 2000 and you are just getting it back from MNT.
Snuck that one right in there! :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 08:29:38 AM
I know right!?!! I'm still laughing! Bone just won the Internet............ All of it!It could have been a deer you shot in 2000 and you are just getting it back from MNT.
Snuck that one right in there! :chuckle:
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 08:32:43 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 12, 2015, 08:36:54 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on November 12, 2015, 09:13:36 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 10:04:24 AM
By the way Steelie, I heard the buck was shot from the road. Think of all that energy you wasted hiking into there.
(I'm not allowed emoticons anymore, I've had my priviledges revoked)
LOL! now that's funny! If that's what happened big guy prolly had his nose right up a doe's rear. :tup:
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 12, 2015, 10:28:33 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 10:32:24 AM
I just heard of a guy that shot bigfoot...
Pics or it didn't happen :hello:
Post by: idahohuntr on November 12, 2015, 10:49:12 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 12, 2015, 10:54:21 AM
Post by: C-Money on November 12, 2015, 11:53:51 AM
Idahohuntr gets it. :tup:
Yup.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 12:03:29 PM
Idahohuntr gets it. :tup:
Yup.
Pretty much how I felt from the get go. Hoping this doesn't open a can of worms again. :sry:
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 12, 2015, 12:03:35 PM
BAM! :yeah:Idahohuntr gets it. :tup:
Yup.
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
Idahohuntr gets it. :tup:
Ok so you said you weren't mad cause he didn't post a pic rather that he didn't answer a PM? So which one is it? Just trying to understand the logic of your attack on Mtmuley?
BTW I didn't see where either MM or Steeliedrew were so horrible to one another so it didn't bother me ... but the whining about how one responds or doesn't to ones liking has done more damage to this thread IMO :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on November 12, 2015, 12:28:14 PM
Idahohuntr gets it. :tup:He does get it. To my point, the OP asked if anyone knew anything about the deer and MtnMuley said the buck was dead. That's all he said. Then all the hubbub started. Did MtnMuley ever say he had pics that he wasn't going to share? He simply said the buck is dead.
Post by: jackelope on November 12, 2015, 12:30:29 PM
That buck is dead.
Post by: jackelope on November 12, 2015, 12:32:10 PM
Like I said, he's definately dead. :hello:
Post by: jackelope on November 12, 2015, 12:32:47 PM
Like I said, he's definately dead. :hello:
I'd like to say congrats to the hunter but without pics I'm hard pressed on that. :tup: Care to send me a PM? If anything a PM of what unit he was allegedly killed in? If you're right on the unit then I'm more inclined to believe the story. :sry:
Post by: huntnphool on November 12, 2015, 12:32:57 PM
Idahohuntr gets it. :tup:He does get it. To my point, the OP asked if anyone knew anything about the deer and MtnMuley said the buck was dead. That's all he said. Then all the hubbub started. Did MtnMuley ever say he had pics that he wasn't going to share? He simply said the buck is dead.
+1
Post by: DUGANDEER on November 12, 2015, 12:33:50 PM
.He does get it. To my point, the OP asked if anyone knew anything about the deer and MtnMuley said the buck was dead. That's all he said. Then all the hubbub started. Did MtnMuley ever say he had pics that he wasn't going to share? He simply said the buck is dead.
Exactly....
Idahohuntr gets it. :tup:
Post by: boneaddict on November 12, 2015, 12:41:38 PM
I'm done with this.
Tip for all reading this: answer your PM's.
The only one I seeing stirring up stuff now are you two. Why post Idahohunter. Most had moved on, you could have easily let it die? Same theory that you are supposedly speaking about.... and then there is Bobcat still trying to get the last word in. I thought he said he was done. LOL
Post by: grundy53 on November 12, 2015, 12:45:04 PM
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Post by: rtspring on November 12, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
The buck is dead!
You guys hear about that two point being shot? :chuckle:
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 12, 2015, 01:02:18 PM
Mtnmuley knows what he is talking about! He dont post pics and I'm sure not going to blame him for that.
The buck is dead!
You guys hear about that two point being shot? :chuckle:
No , why don't you tell us about it. :tup:
Post by: KFhunter on November 12, 2015, 01:08:28 PM
Seems to me the issue is not whether a picture was posted/not posted. I see occassional posts where members talk about having photos, which they won't be posting. The not posting - I completely understand - I do not post harvest photos anymore either. However, if you are not willing to share a photo - or do not have permission to share a photo - why announce to the world you have this information? Why not just stay silent? Even if someone asks about whether a particular animal has been harvested? Is it to prove to others you are in the cool kids club? Thats how I interpret some of the dialouge I see. I have a photo. I'm not going to share that photo. But I want you to know I have the photo. :dunno:
very interesting take on things, not one I share though.
mtnmulie did the OP a favor by letting him know that the buck was dead and no longer available for fair chase, then got called to the carpet for doing him a favor.
Which is worse?
1) letting another hunter continue to obsess over a dead buck you know for sure is dead or;
2) letting the guy know it's dead, but sorry can't show you a picture or divulge information about it because it's not mine to show or tell about?
I think what people aren't grasping is some hunters tend to fixate on a target chasing it for years, they name the buck like steelie did here. Those kind of hunters need to know if "their" buck is gone. I suspect mtnmulie understood this as he too chases large trophy bucks and probably targets certain ones. In his mind he was doing the OP a solid, then got lambasted for it.
1st time shame on you, 2nd time shame on me! unfortunately mtnmulie (and others reading this fiasco) have learned the hard way not to help out a fellow trophy chasers and letting them know a certain buck is gone - and that's what I find sad about this whole deal.
Post by: Rainier10 on November 12, 2015, 01:12:12 PM
Post by: Buckmark on November 12, 2015, 01:16:26 PM
You guys hear about that two point being shot? :chuckle:
Pics or it didn't happen... :rolleyes:
Post by: h20hunter on November 12, 2015, 01:18:45 PM
;) :chuckle: :tup:
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 01:22:08 PM
Kind of like the Bigfoot thread, just not quite as stupid...yet :chuckle:
Post by: rtspring on November 12, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
PS this one is dead too! :chuckle:
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 01:25:08 PM
This thread is hilarious. It goes from inquisitive, to serious, to humorous, back to serious.
Kind of like the Bigfoot thread, just not quite as stupid...yet :chuckle:
We're at 9 pages on this gem. Give it time. It can get plenty stupid. :chuckle:
Post by: kirkl on November 12, 2015, 01:25:17 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 01:26:23 PM
Those two points are too tender! I shoot hamburger rutted up bucks now!
PS this one is dead too! :chuckle:
Great buck RT! Look at the neck *censored* on that deer!
Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 01:27:52 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 12, 2015, 01:35:18 PM
Those two points are too tender! I shoot hamburger rutted up bucks now!Yep definitely dead, missing the same G4 as Steelie's, interesting.
PS this one is dead too! :chuckle:
Post by: rtspring on November 12, 2015, 01:37:09 PM
R.T. Is that a "do rag" :o
Thats a Oh Crap I gotta shoot this buck rag!!! Ha ha
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on November 12, 2015, 01:47:53 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on November 12, 2015, 01:57:52 PM
Be thankful for the info you got :twocents:
Post by: kirkl on November 12, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2015, 02:17:34 PM
Post by: rtspring on November 12, 2015, 02:22:10 PM
They sure as hell dont come any better than mtnmuley! Thats a fact.
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 02:26:36 PM
By knowing mtnmuley very well, Im sure if the OP would of pm'd him he would of gave more info about said buck!
They sure as hell dont come any better than mtnmuley! Thats a fact.
I believe he was PM'd. Of course I cannot verify that because I am neither MtnMuley nor steeliedrew.
Post by: cbond3318 on November 12, 2015, 02:26:50 PM
By knowing mtnmuley very well, Im sure if the OP would of pm'd him he would of gave more info about said buck!
They sure as hell dont come any better than mtnmuley! Thats a fact.
see page 2.
Post by: cbond3318 on November 12, 2015, 02:27:53 PM
By knowing mtnmuley very well, Im sure if the OP would of pm'd him he would of gave more info about said buck!
They sure as hell dont come any better than mtnmuley! Thats a fact.
see page 2.
Dang, I was hoping that post would have rolled us into page 10. :(
Post by: Rainier10 on November 12, 2015, 02:30:33 PM
Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 02:31:40 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on November 12, 2015, 02:31:58 PM
Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on November 12, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
LOL, you think a guy with 6200 posts would be a troll?
It was a trollish response. I thought he was just joking and trying to mess with the guy. Did not sound like a response from such a "well established member whose word is taken without question"
Post by: cbond3318 on November 12, 2015, 02:32:39 PM
Boogiti Boogiti
Gosh darn't.... congratulations.
Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 02:35:26 PM
Post by: Rainier10 on November 12, 2015, 02:39:13 PM
Post by: cbond3318 on November 12, 2015, 02:42:14 PM
I'm back, what happened?
2 labs hit the triple 7 and rolled it into 10 and something about a troll.
Post by: rtspring on November 12, 2015, 02:44:37 PM
Seems Logical :dunno:
I think said indian is on here, he likes whiteman to pack his goat out to truck
Post by: jackelope on November 12, 2015, 02:46:45 PM
The problem is the response MT Mulie gave makes him sounds like a troll. Anyone could have made that vague comment. Send the dude a PM with some further proof and give him some closure if you really want to help him out.
Pretty sure he's got nothing to prove to anyone.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on November 12, 2015, 02:48:07 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 02:49:07 PM
There is about 5 guys on this sight that I can think of off the top of my head that I would believe without actually seeing a pic and MM is not one of them. I AM NOT saying he doesn't know what he is talking about but I don't personally know him or his background. Are we all supposed to just believe what we read from someone we don't know now?
No favor was done for steeliedrew in my mind. If anything, it only made his life worse because if it was me, I would be looking even harder for this buck. If I saw a pic or exchanged pm's and that solidified it in my mind, then that would be a favor because then I could move on to other deer. I just couldn't throw in the towel because a stranger said "he's dead". :twocents:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 02:53:08 PM
Post by: emac on November 12, 2015, 02:53:16 PM
Those two points are too tender! I shoot hamburger rutted up bucks now!Are you sure he is dead?? I swear I just saw his tail move. Lol
PS this one is dead too! :chuckle:
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Post by: rtspring on November 12, 2015, 02:59:16 PM
So this is not me taking a side but I do know how my brain works. I am a "believe it when I see it" kind of guy. That buck has no defining features that stick out. He's a high 20's deer with decent mass. There are a 100 deer just like him out there. So to say without a doubt that that exact buck is dead would leave me far from convinced without further verification. Hell 4 1/2 years ago his momma could have had twins and there is another out there almost identical to him.
There is about 5 guys on this sight that I can think of off the top of my head that I would believe without actually seeing a pic and MM is not one of them. I AM NOT saying he doesn't know what he is talking about but I don't personally know him or his background. Are we all supposed to just believe what we read from someone we don't know now?
No favor was done for steeliedrew in my mind. If anything, it only made his life worse because if it was me, I would be looking even harder for this buck. If I saw a pic or exchanged pm's and that solidified it in my mind, then that would be a favor because then I could move on to other deer. I just couldn't throw in the towel because a stranger said "he's dead". :twocents:
Its SITE not SIGHT :chuckle:
Post by: addicted2hunting on November 12, 2015, 02:59:50 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 03:02:06 PM
Hey my phone is supposed to take care of stuff like thatSo this is not me taking a side but I do know how my brain works. I am a "believe it when I see it" kind of guy. That buck has no defining features that stick out. He's a high 20's deer with decent mass. There are a 100 deer just like him out there. So to say without a doubt that that exact buck is dead would leave me far from convinced without further verification. Hell 4 1/2 years ago his momma could have had twins and there is another out there almost identical to him.
There is about 5 guys on this sight that I can think of off the top of my head that I would believe without actually seeing a pic and MM is not one of them. I AM NOT saying he doesn't know what he is talking about but I don't personally know him or his background. Are we all supposed to just believe what we read from someone we don't know now?
No favor was done for steeliedrew in my mind. If anything, it only made his life worse because if it was me, I would be looking even harder for this buck. If I saw a pic or exchanged pm's and that solidified it in my mind, then that would be a favor because then I could move on to other deer. I just couldn't throw in the towel because a stranger said "he's dead". :twocents:
Its SITE not SIGHT :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 03:03:20 PM
:chuckle: His head is in my freezer, so you can believe me that he's deadThose two points are too tender! I shoot hamburger rutted up bucks now!Are you sure he is dead?? I swear I just saw his tail move. Lol
PS this one is dead too! :chuckle:
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Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 03:04:34 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 03:06:24 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 03:24:51 PM
Me, I'm gonna continue to post pics and share my adventures. It kind of the whole point of social media and these forums. I love sharing and I also love looking at others success and reading their adventures. Some need to grow thicker skin I think. :twocents:
:yeah: I really enjoy sharing my adventures with like minded people. And half the reason for visting forums is horn porn and fish porn. Cause let's face it....most of us work a lot, and when we can't be out in the field it's great to live through folks in their adventures to keep that fire burning. This is why I've fallen in love with Instagram this year. More horn porn on there than you can shake a stick at.
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2015, 03:39:40 PM
I am a "believe it when I see it" kind of guy.
So to say without a doubt that that exact buck is dead would leave me far from convinced without further verification.
There is about 5 guys on this sight that I can think of off the top of my head that I would believe without actually seeing a pic and MM is not one of them. I AM NOT saying he doesn't know what he is talking about but I don't personally know him or his background. Are we all supposed to just believe what we read from someone we don't know now?
. :twocents:
That's one way to look at it? ... I however give a guy the benefit of the doubt until I have a reason NOT to believe them ;) Those who have been around here awhile are smart enough to tell who is here to stir the pot and cause trouble and who have a track record of being genuine and helpful I've never seen Mt Muley fall into the first category ... So I for one am not passing judgement until I see otherwise. :twocents:
Post by: westsidehntr on November 12, 2015, 03:43:28 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
So this is not me taking a side but I do know how my brain works. I am a "believe it when I see it" kind of guy. That buck has no defining features that stick out. He's a high 20's deer with decent mass. There are a 100 deer just like him out there. So to say without a doubt that that exact buck is dead would leave me far from convinced without further verification. Hell 4 1/2 years ago his momma could have had twins and there is another out there almost identical to him.Thats exactly why I tried to make it very clear that I was not implying he was doing so, merly pointing out that "in general" if an individual does not know someone personally, they tend to not take their word as the gospel. Thats it, nothing more
There is about 5 guys on this sight that I can think of off the top of my head that I would believe without actually seeing a pic and MM is not one of them. I AM NOT saying he doesn't know what he is talking about but I don't personally know him or his background. Are we all supposed to just believe what we read from someone we don't know now?
No favor was done for steeliedrew in my mind. If anything, it only made his life worse because if it was me, I would be looking even harder for this buck. If I saw a pic or exchanged pm's and that solidified it in my mind, then that would be a favor because then I could move on to other deer. I just couldn't throw in the towel because a stranger said "he's dead". :twocents:
Post by: jackelope on November 12, 2015, 03:55:39 PM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 03:57:13 PM
There is a lot of bucks out there that could look similar. The least Mtn Muley could do is pm steelie with the area the buck was killed in so that steelie knows if 'his' buck is dead or not. If you can't do that, why post that it's dead? :dunno:
Problem with that is there's a lot of assumption on where this buck is from. Where it was said to have been killed is quite a few miles away from where we found him in his summer range. Not even the same unit. I know Mule deer migrate a good deal but didn't expect him to move that far that fast.
Post by: h20hunter on November 12, 2015, 03:58:25 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 12, 2015, 03:58:47 PM
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2015, 04:00:49 PM
And that is unfortunate.
And I would agree.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 04:01:17 PM
I guess I missed the post that said where it was supposedly killed. :dunno:
I received a few PM's.
Post by: X-Force on November 12, 2015, 04:10:13 PM
There is a lot of bucks out there that could look similar. The least Mtn Muley could do is pm steelie with the area the buck was killed in so that steelie knows if 'his' buck is dead or not. If you can't do that, why post that it's dead? :dunno:
Problem with that is there's a lot of assumption on where this buck is from. Where it was said to have been killed is quite a few miles away from where we found him in his summer range. Not even the same unit. I know Mule deer migrate a good deal but didn't expect him to move that far that fast.
I dont know how far the buck was killed from where you saw him but WEA300MAG had a bomber buck on his trail camera during the summer that was killed during general season 16-17 miles away as the crow flies.
I cant believe this threat has lasted this long.
Post by: .257mag on November 12, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 04:12:39 PM
And that is unfortunate.Its not unfortunate, its life. Lots of folks out there that are completely full of bull crap. Heck I ran into a guy in the elk woods this year that beat feet over to me to talk to me. I think we have all ran into this guy :chuckle: 300 yard shots with his ball and patch pistol, 3 bucks from Dayton the last 5 years that that were over 40" wide, a day of coyote hunting where he had to resort to his sidearm to fend off the wave of dogs. 21 dead coyotes when the smoke settled to be exact. For all I know this guy could be anyone of a lot of people on this very site. Sorry, but I'm not believing the stories he told, regardless not having a prior reason to not believe him.
Disclaimer: I am in know way referring to specific individuals in this post, it is a generalization of a good portion of society as a whole. Well except for the guy I was describing, he was completely full of it :chuckle:
Post by: OutHouse on November 12, 2015, 04:13:23 PM
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2015, 04:27:23 PM
And that is unfortunate.Its not unfortunate, its life. Lots of folks out there that are completely full of bull crap. Heck I ran into a guy in the elk woods this year that beat feet over to me to talk to me. I think we have all ran into this guy :chuckle: 300 yard shots with his ball and patch pistol, 3 bucks from Dayton the last 5 years that that were over 40" wide, a day of coyote hunting where he had to resort to his sidearm to fend off the wave of dogs. 21 dead coyotes when the smoke settled to be exact. For all I know this guy could be anyone of a lot of people on this very site. Sorry, but I'm not believing the stories he told, regardless not having a prior reason to not believe him.
Disclaimer: I am in know way referring to specific individuals in this post, it is a generalization of a good portion of society as a whole. Well except for the guy I was describing, he was completely full of it :chuckle:
Your comparison and what Mtmuley said are miles apart so again I would say I think most are smart enough to find some even ground. Look I don't know where anyone said that his word has to be the gospel other than you but I think there is a great difference in the way you are trying to explain things and they way it actually went down. No one said to go through your life being naive but going through it as if everyone is unbelievable first is something I for one am not going to do, I respect how you do it its just not my way :hello:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 04:33:43 PM
It comes back to believing people that you do not know. If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more? I would question that and would want to see proof. Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed. Am I wrong?
Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 04:41:34 PM
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2015, 04:42:20 PM
Its an exaggeration of a point. Believing someone you don't know. Of course they aren't identical.
It comes back to believing people that you do not know. If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more? I would question that and would want to see proof. Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed. Am I wrong?
No, your right I would ask ... but if the guy doesnt want to let on any more information I am not going to go look for the rope and a good hangin branch at that point either ;)
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 04:50:29 PM
exactly! That's what I'm saying. I never went for the rope in this thread. In fact I stated multiple times, I have no dog in the fight, and neither side is wrong or right.Its an exaggeration of a point. Believing someone you don't know. Of course they aren't identical.
It comes back to believing people that you do not know. If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more? I would question that and would want to see proof. Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed. Am I wrong?
No, your right I would ask ... but if the guy doesnt want to let on any more information I am not going to go look for the rope and a good hangin branch at that point either ;)
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 04:51:17 PM
Almost 12 pages!! You can do it!
Maybe this post will tip us into 12 :dunno:
Edit: no such luck.
Post by: runamuk on November 12, 2015, 04:53:14 PM
:yeah:Its an exaggeration of a point. Believing someone you don't know. Of course they aren't identical.
It comes back to believing people that you do not know. If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more? I would question that and would want to see proof. Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed. Am I wrong?
No, your right I would ask ... but if the guy doesnt want to let on any more information I am not going to go look for the rope and a good hangin branch at that point either ;)
And if I was truly interested I might ask in private you know via PM's and not make a giant production openly leading to a circus with monkeys and stuff.
now back to it guys
Post by: huntnphool on November 12, 2015, 04:58:09 PM
Its an exaggeration of a point. Believing someone you don't know. Of course they aren't identical.
It comes back to believing people that you do not know. If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more? I would question that and would want to see proof. Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed. Am I wrong?
Steele, just take BLR's opinion and move forward believing that buck is still alive, problem solved.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 05:01:46 PM
Steele, just take BLR's opinion and move forward believing that buck is still alive, problem solved.
I'm really not worried about him being dead or alive. Curious? you betcha. Would I like to see a pic. Yep. but life goes on and I'll be back on good bucks in 2016. :tup:
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
And that is unfortunate.Its not unfortunate, its life. Lots of folks out there that are completely full of bull crap. Heck I ran into a guy in the elk woods this year that beat feet over to me to talk to me. I think we have all ran into this guy :chuckle: 300 yard shots with his ball and patch pistol, 3 bucks from Dayton the last 5 years that that were over 40" wide, a day of coyote hunting where he had to resort to his sidearm to fend off the wave of dogs. 21 dead coyotes when the smoke settled to be exact. For all I know this guy could be anyone of a lot of people on this very site. Sorry, but I'm not believing the stories he told, regardless not having a prior reason to not believe him.
Nice to meet you this fall, if you ever want any more muzzle-loading tips, let me know. Did you ever get an elk? Man I arrowed a 400" last day bull then had to run up a tree to keep his big brother from goring me. Crazy stuff...well pretty average day of hunting for me but still you get what I mean.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 05:14:55 PM
boy I would have to go read back through but I'm fairly certain I never once said it was dead or alive. I merely stated that IF IT WAS ME PERSONALLY I would need further closer than just some strangers word. Why is this so hard to understand? I have no side to take. I would no sooner beieve steeliedrew''s word as I would MM. Nothing against them but they are 100% complete strangers TO ME. It would be like you posting pics from your montana trip and then me saying, ya that buck is dead. Pretty sure you wouldn't believe me. Am I wrong?Its an exaggeration of a point. Believing someone you don't know. Of course they aren't identical.
It comes back to believing people that you do not know. If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more? I would question that and would want to see proof. Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed. Am I wrong?
Steele, just take BLR's opinion and move forward believing that buck is still alive, problem solved.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 05:17:25 PM
Glad you made it back safe from your black ops mission to North Korea. :chuckle:And that is unfortunate.Its not unfortunate, its life. Lots of folks out there that are completely full of bull crap. Heck I ran into a guy in the elk woods this year that beat feet over to me to talk to me. I think we have all ran into this guy :chuckle: 300 yard shots with his ball and patch pistol, 3 bucks from Dayton the last 5 years that that were over 40" wide, a day of coyote hunting where he had to resort to his sidearm to fend off the wave of dogs. 21 dead coyotes when the smoke settled to be exact. For all I know this guy could be anyone of a lot of people on this very site. Sorry, but I'm not believing the stories he told, regardless not having a prior reason to not believe him.
Nice to meet you this fall, if you ever want any more muzzle-loading tips, let me know. Did you ever get an elk? Man I arrowed a 400" last day bull then had to run up a tree to keep his big brother from goring me. Crazy stuff...well pretty average day of hunting for me but still you get what I mean.
Seriously, that was another story we got from him :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on November 12, 2015, 05:19:20 PM
boy I would have to go read back through but I'm fairly certain I never once said it was dead or alive. I merely stated that IF IT WAS ME PERSONALLY I would need further closer than just some strangers word. Why is this so hard to understand? I have no side to take. I would no sooner beieve steeliedrew''s word as I would MM. Nothing against them but they are 100% complete strangers TO ME. It would be like you posting pics from your montana trip and then me saying, ya that buck is dead. Pretty sure you wouldn't believe me. Am I wrong?Its an exaggeration of a point. Believing someone you don't know. Of course they aren't identical.
It comes back to believing people that you do not know. If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more? I would question that and would want to see proof. Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed. Am I wrong?
Steele, just take BLR's opinion and move forward believing that buck is still alive, problem solved.
I didn't say you did, I suggested that he move forward believing the buck is still alive, based on your posts about not taking a "strangers word".
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 05:23:08 PM
Steeliedrew, I hope you find the closure you are looking for on this. I know it would haunt my dreams until I could climb back into those basins come summer.
MtMuley, I hope I made it very clear, that I was not calling you out, calling you a liar, or even talking about you specifically. I was just using the situation as an example. RT says you are a good dude, and I PERSONALLY KNOW RT, so if he says your a bro, than your welcome in my camp any time :tup:
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 05:24:46 PM
:stirthepot:
So happy I'm not a moderator :chuckle:
Oh and Karl, I've got pics from NK but they're not mine to post so you know how that goes :chuckle:
I'm out too, Audi 5000, take it
Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 05:27:48 PM
Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 05:28:28 PM
Post by: coachcw on November 12, 2015, 05:29:07 PM
Post by: coachcw on November 12, 2015, 05:30:21 PM
Wait, hey, it didnt go 12 :yike:Just imagine if it was score this buck while on a date with Hirshey ? :chuckle:
Post by: Pinetar on November 12, 2015, 05:33:06 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 12, 2015, 05:40:21 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 12, 2015, 05:42:25 PM
Old school is old school. Dead is dead. I guess I speak his language.
By the way folks, if any of you are actually in tune with the migration routes of deer in the Methow, you'll note they can go quite far in their travels, in routes you never imagined. He'll even the WDFW acknowledges that.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 05:46:20 PM
I doubt I'm one of the 7 BLRman, but there are some outstanding members on this site and I respect none more than Mtmuley. I'm sure he is laughing his ass off at all this gibberish.I've actually come up with like 9 now :chuckle:, and you are most certainly one of them Doug :tup:
Old school is old school. Dead is dead. I guess I speak his language.
By the way folks, if any of you are actually in tune with the migration routes of deer in the Methow, you'll note they can go quite far in their travels, in routes you never imagined. He'll even the WDFW acknowledges that.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 05:47:35 PM
Along with Rob and Mark I might addI doubt I'm one of the 7 BLRman, but there are some outstanding members on this site and I respect none more than Mtmuley. I'm sure he is laughing his ass off at all this gibberish.I've actually come up with like 9 now :chuckle:, and you are most certainly one of them Doug :tup:
Old school is old school. Dead is dead. I guess I speak his language.
By the way folks, if any of you are actually in tune with the migration routes of deer in the Methow, you'll note they can go quite far in their travels, in routes you never imagined. He'll even the WDFW acknowledges that.
Post by: KFhunter on November 12, 2015, 05:48:29 PM
Post by: coachcw on November 12, 2015, 05:49:27 PM
Crap I think I got bumped off the list !Along with Rob and Mark I might addI doubt I'm one of the 7 BLRman, but there are some outstanding members on this site and I respect none more than Mtmuley. I'm sure he is laughing his ass off at all this gibberish.I've actually come up with like 9 now :chuckle:, and you are most certainly one of them Doug :tup:
Old school is old school. Dead is dead. I guess I speak his language.
By the way folks, if any of you are actually in tune with the migration routes of deer in the Methow, you'll note they can go quite far in their travels, in routes you never imagined. He'll even the WDFW acknowledges that.
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 05:51:26 PM
whoa wait, was that a free reach around I just witnessed? my eyes!
:chuckle: I can't stay away from this thread and it's because of stuff like this :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
Na your still good :chuckle:Crap I think I got bumped off the list !Along with Rob and Mark I might addI doubt I'm one of the 7 BLRman, but there are some outstanding members on this site and I respect none more than Mtmuley. I'm sure he is laughing his ass off at all this gibberish.I've actually come up with like 9 now :chuckle:, and you are most certainly one of them Doug :tup:
Old school is old school. Dead is dead. I guess I speak his language.
By the way folks, if any of you are actually in tune with the migration routes of deer in the Methow, you'll note they can go quite far in their travels, in routes you never imagined. He'll even the WDFW acknowledges that.
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2015, 05:53:04 PM
exactly! That's what I'm saying. I never went for the rope in this thread. In fact I stated multiple times, I have no dog in the fight, and neither side is wrong or right.Its an exaggeration of a point. Believing someone you don't know. Of course they aren't identical.
It comes back to believing people that you do not know. If I had a relationship with a good deer, and someone I don't know just says, ya he's dead, and then nothing more? I would question that and would want to see proof. Pretty good odds you would do the same if roles were reversed. Am I wrong?
No, your right I would ask ... but if the guy doesnt want to let on any more information I am not going to go look for the rope and a good hangin branch at that point either ;)
Sorry I didn't mean to imply YOU did just saying in general people should have left it alone at that point :tup:
Post by: M_ray on November 12, 2015, 05:56:15 PM
whoa wait, was that a free reach around I just witnessed? my eyes!
Almost missed this one! :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on November 12, 2015, 06:00:41 PM
whoa wait, was that a free reach around I just witnessed? my eyes!Nope, just call em like I see em. Those guys know what they are talking about when it comes to mule deer. This is fact. Nothing more nothing less.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 06:02:34 PM
I also think I've seen this buck and he is quite possibly dead, one of about 10 in the back of a truck leaving Hanford. :chuckle:
You got me. It's a Hanford buck.
Post by: steeliedrew on November 12, 2015, 06:05:05 PM
Post by: 92xj on November 12, 2015, 06:11:49 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 12, 2015, 06:41:37 PM
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Post by: PlateauNDN on November 12, 2015, 06:42:22 PM
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Post by: PlateauNDN on November 12, 2015, 06:43:11 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 12, 2015, 06:43:33 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on November 12, 2015, 07:16:28 PM
Seems to me the issue is not whether a picture was posted/not posted. I see occassional posts where members talk about having photos, which they won't be posting. The not posting - I completely understand - I do not post harvest photos anymore either. However, if you are not willing to share a photo - or do not have permission to share a photo - why announce to the world you have this information? Why not just stay silent? Even if someone asks about whether a particular animal has been harvested? Is it to prove to others you are in the cool kids club? Thats how I interpret some of the dialouge I see. I have a photo. I'm not going to share that photo. But I want you to know I have the photo. :dunno:
:yeah:
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 12, 2015, 07:17:21 PM
Post by: 2labs on November 12, 2015, 07:20:20 PM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 12, 2015, 08:49:27 PM
Post by: WARHORSE on November 13, 2015, 01:11:42 AM
Post by: bornforhorns on November 13, 2015, 02:36:03 AM
Post by: bornforhorns on November 13, 2015, 02:43:57 AM
Post by: bornforhorns on November 13, 2015, 02:51:59 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 13, 2015, 06:01:36 AM
Post by: cbond3318 on November 13, 2015, 06:20:29 AM
Wait, hey, it didnt go 12 :yike:
you lucky SOB, good work.
Post by: cbond3318 on November 13, 2015, 06:23:44 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 13, 2015, 07:03:21 AM
Crab claw, slightly in turned main beam on the right side...just sayin.
Very, Very similar. Just not quite wide enough to be Krusty but that's a heck of a deer there! :drool:
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 13, 2015, 07:38:56 AM
Post by: steeliedrew on November 13, 2015, 10:08:41 AM
No, no, no........that buck is gone and some one is correct, he was shot next to a road and I have proof. I was sent the pic and I don't give a freak who knows how I got the pic I'm posting it. End this thread once and for all. >:(
:chuckle:
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on November 13, 2015, 10:10:02 AM
No, no, no........that buck is gone and some one is correct, he was shot next to a road and I have proof. I was sent the pic and I don't give a freak who knows how I got the pic I'm posting it. End this thread once and for all. >:(
What are you waiting for?
Post by: cbond3318 on November 13, 2015, 10:12:55 AM
Hey Steelie, what made you name him Krusty? was wondering at the beginning of this but forgot to ask...
nevermind, i just re read the OP....
Post by: cbond3318 on November 13, 2015, 10:14:31 AM
Post by: NOCK NOCK on November 13, 2015, 10:31:40 AM
No, no, no........that buck is gone and some one is correct, he was shot next to a road and I have proof. I was sent the pic and I don't give a freak who knows how I got the pic I'm posting it. End this thread once and for all. >:(
What are you waiting for?
I'll bite....................................................................Pics or it didnt happen............. :chuckle:
Post by: 2labs on November 13, 2015, 10:39:48 AM
Wait, hey, it didnt go 12 :yike:
you lucky SOB, good work.
Luck..... Ha
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 13, 2015, 12:54:04 PM
Post by: 2labs on November 13, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Post by: WARHORSE on November 13, 2015, 01:55:32 PM
You should rename him "Maybe" :twocents:
How about mmmmm. Dead!
Post by: steeliedrew on November 13, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
I know you all just wanted the thread to die but this is kinda interesting:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi630.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu22%2F206turboballs%2F8795235E-E182-4197-AD22-18AA41CFDEB2.jpg&hash=4c1114f187f0ba15d9b4414fbb0219406d3619c9)
:IBCOOL:
Also doesn't appear to have quite the same width but it's hard with the angle of the shot and the laid back ears on the dead buck to really tell.
Post by: DUGANDEER on November 13, 2015, 09:18:41 PM
After seeing Bornforhorns' pic that he posted I've been thinking all day. At first I thought "not wide enough" but that crab claw looks just like how it looked in September when me and addicted2hunting got back on him. The dead buck has better tine depth too but the picture I posted of Krusty was from July so he was still growing at that point.
I know you all just wanted the thread to die but this is kinda interesting:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi630.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu22%2F206turboballs%2F8795235E-E182-4197-AD22-18AA41CFDEB2.jpg&hash=4c1114f187f0ba15d9b4414fbb0219406d3619c9)
:IBCOOL:
Also doesn't appear to have quite the same width but it's hard with the angle of the shot and the laid back ears on the dead buck to really tell.
Not the same buck...IMO
Post by: jackelope on November 13, 2015, 09:45:13 PM
Post by: Romulus1297 on November 13, 2015, 10:02:52 PM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 13, 2015, 10:09:42 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 13, 2015, 11:05:59 PM
Not the same buck.
+1
Post by: steeliedrew on November 14, 2015, 06:48:31 AM
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 14, 2015, 06:55:08 AM
just adding to my post count :IBCOOL:
carry on, will check back in a few days. :chuckle:
Post by: bornforhorns on November 15, 2015, 03:22:14 PM
Post by: 2labs on November 15, 2015, 03:38:50 PM
14 pages and nothing accomplished...
just adding to my post count :IBCOOL:
carry on, will check back in a few days. :chuckle:
BENCHLEG
Post by: crabcreekhunter on November 15, 2015, 07:36:48 PM
Post by: 2labs on November 15, 2015, 07:45:08 PM
No no no this is a benchleg!! ;-)
Dang that's almost Bigfoot quality :tup:
Post by: mdbuck5x5 on November 16, 2015, 07:09:25 PM
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID36/180.html#.VkqaJ5_TnqC
Post by: jkononen on November 16, 2015, 07:12:13 PM
Post by: shootnrun on November 16, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
Only because this thread was so entertaining! ??? Hmmm idk!? :stirthepot:
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID36/180.html#.VkqaJ5_TnqC
Now this post can finally go the way of the buck.
Why is it he wanted to share it with them, but not here? Hell, they even posted his name.. :yike:
Post by: DUGANDEER on November 16, 2015, 07:51:28 PM
Only because this thread was so entertaining! ??? Hmmm idk!? :stirthepot:
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID36/180.html#.VkqaJ5_TnqC
That's him....dead I believe.
Post by: Watimberghost on November 16, 2015, 07:59:01 PM
Post by: dr.derek on November 16, 2015, 08:30:13 PM
Post by: crabcreekhunter on November 16, 2015, 08:30:41 PM
Post by: kirkl on November 16, 2015, 08:49:22 PM
May have missed something but I thought it was mentioned he was dead.... :dunno:
He is in the monster muley link
Post by: 2labs on November 16, 2015, 08:54:46 PM
Post by: kirkl on November 16, 2015, 08:57:52 PM
Guess I'm kornfused now :(
Everyone wanted to see the buck dead. The MM link that MDbuck posted shows him dead. All the other deer posted in this thread weren't the buck.
Post by: 2labs on November 16, 2015, 09:03:53 PM
Post by: WARHORSE on November 16, 2015, 09:25:52 PM
Strange
Post by: GUscottie on November 16, 2015, 09:38:48 PM
Post by: DUGANDEER on November 16, 2015, 09:46:33 PM
wow what a great buck, excellent scouting steelie. Glad to see use seattlites know how to hunt these muleys!
:chuckle:
Post by: steeliedrew on November 16, 2015, 09:46:58 PM
Only because this thread was so entertaining! ??? Hmmm idk!? :stirthepot:
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID36/180.html#.VkqaJ5_TnqC
Thank you for posting that! :tup: :tup: :tup: There is no denying that is Krusty Folks. Is the Hunter on here? I'd like to just say congrats on taking a terrific animal. That picture shows him quite well. If you hadn't already guessed, this buck was special to me. I'm glad someone worked hard and got it done.
Pretty dang cut and dry:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi630.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fuu22%2F206turboballs%2FA707A55A-5CC7-4BB8-9E5F-BBC42B655124.jpg&hash=6f90b9daa81f7e896d06b36f50b330d84df1af8a)
Does he still score the 160" that we thought? 33" wide!!! :drool:
Post by: C-Money on November 17, 2015, 07:02:01 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 17, 2015, 07:20:26 AM
Congrats to the hunter on a nice buck. :tup:
Post by: idahohuntr on November 17, 2015, 08:36:34 AM
Now that's what I was referring to in my very early posts. A pic is already all over the Internet so why is permission needed to post a link? Hell, if i had recently checked MM and seen that I would've posted the link as well. If it's everywhere already then why fret?:yeah:
I guess the question is - did those posting with knowledge of this dead buck know it was posted on MM? If so - thats pretty lame. :twocents:
Post by: Rainier10 on November 17, 2015, 10:11:33 AM
Velvet is always tough for me. It is a great buck and if someone did take it, congrats. I would be nice to know the score but not the end of the world if it doesn't come out. I didn't figure we would ever know the score until someone said it was dead, then there was hope we would get a real answer.With the kill photo out I am sticking with my original guess, 155-162. Great looking deer hard horned as well.
For what it is worth my guess would have been 155-162 and a shooter all day long if I had a chance.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on November 17, 2015, 10:49:00 AM
Post by: M_ray on November 17, 2015, 09:59:32 PM
Post by: KFhunter on November 17, 2015, 10:20:02 PM
That photo was posted October 30th on MM. :o
:DOH:
Now I got to agree with IDH and Bobcat :chuckle:
being this was posted on the internet I can't see anything wrong with tossing up a link. One thing if it was on a guy's phone not posted anywhere, but something else entirely if it's already posted elsewhere.
Post by: Rainier10 on November 18, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
The guy is long arming the heck out of it. It could be 40" but your still only getting credit for the longest main and I still think it's 23". After seeing him rubbed I might give him a bit more mass, the mass is always hard for me to tell on a velvet buck. He's a great buck for sure!I was shocked at how much mass it still had with the velvet off. Velvet always gets me on the guessing score. But after seeing this one I am a little more confident in my guessing.
Definitely not 40" wide and your right the main beams are under whatever the spread is.
No doubt I would shoot this deer any day of the week and wouldn't care what the score was. Deeper forks and the added G4 would improve the score massively but this is one that the score just wouldn't matter, it is a great buck.
Post by: MtnMuley on November 18, 2015, 11:27:22 AM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on November 18, 2015, 11:32:10 AM
I think Phool's measurements are pretty close, although I'd probably give him an extra inch or two here and there and wind up in the 165 neighborhood.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 18, 2015, 11:35:04 AM
Only because this thread was so entertaining! ??? Hmmm idk!? :stirthepot:
http://www.monstermuleys.com/photos/PhotosID36/180.html#.VkqaJ5_TnqC
Now that's a tank of a buck!
Post by: M_ray on November 18, 2015, 11:57:43 AM
The guy is long arming the heck out of it. It could be 40" but your still only getting credit for the longest main and I still think it's 23". After seeing him rubbed I might give him a bit more mass, the mass is always hard for me to tell on a velvet buck. He's a great buck for sure!I was shocked at how much mass it still had with the velvet off. Velvet always gets me on the guessing score. But after seeing this one I am a little more confident in my guessing.
Definitely not 40" wide and your right the main beams are under whatever the spread is.
No doubt I would shoot this deer any day of the week and wouldn't care what the score was. Deeper forks and the added G4 would improve the score massively but this is one that the score just wouldn't matter, it is a great buck.
+1
I agree he's awesome! I hope I'm not sounding critical and I don't mean to be if it weren't for the OP asking for advise with what we thought I'd just be drooling over him and being jealous! Congrats to the hunter :tup: