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Title: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: WapitiChaser on November 09, 2015, 08:05:44 PM
Many camps raided and robbed this year on the FS 17 Little Natches Road, in cluding two of my buddies who had their CHAINED Honda generators cut and swiped.  One hunter was sleeping in his camper and had his generator swiped while he slept.  Other guys I talked to down by Whistling Jacks claimed to have lost everything including guns.

One or more hunters claimed to have caught a sheriff on game camera stealing their stuff.  If you have images, I would love to have them.  or, Yakima County Sheriff is doing the investigation.

Be careful out there....*censored*s everywhere >:(
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: willapawapiti on November 09, 2015, 08:24:15 PM
I've always had that fear in the back of my mind every time I leave a camp.  Makes me totally sick inside to hear about this....hope someone on here can help out.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Grizman on November 09, 2015, 08:33:49 PM
Hate to say this, but that area is really bad for this sort of thing.  Not going to say why, but it just never stops.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: MtnMuley on November 09, 2015, 08:39:17 PM
I'm just waiting to finally read the story where someone gets shot for doing this kind of chit. I will sign up for the defense fund for that one if needed.  :twocents:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: ribka on November 09, 2015, 08:39:50 PM
Lots of Tweekers in Naches and triton plus the Yakima schitbags


No these are not hunters. These are drug addicts who converge up in hunters ' camps because of easy pickings
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: bobcat on November 09, 2015, 08:43:19 PM
I'm just waiting to finally read the story where someone gets shot for doing this kind of chit. I will sign up for the defense fund for that one if needed.  :twocents:

If I would've caught the scumbags that stole my ice chest with all my food in it right out of my camp in the Little Naches a few years ago, they very well could have ended up with lead poisoning. Would've been a 50 caliber hole.   :tup:   :bash:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: 2labs on November 09, 2015, 08:45:19 PM
Hate to say this, but that area is really bad for this sort of thing.  Not going to say why, but it just never stops.


You can say why! I know why! Moved out of the lower valley cause of " why"
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Grizman on November 09, 2015, 08:50:32 PM
Just trying to be PC.  We all know why!!  After ten years living out the Ahtanum we are fully aware, and, moved NE!!
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: trophyhunt on November 09, 2015, 08:55:31 PM
Very madding to hear! F ing dirtbags, I hope they get shot and killed in the act!
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: JJB11B on November 09, 2015, 08:58:05 PM
I don't, for one it gives us hunters a bad name as trigger happy murderers, and two I don't want the legal trouble for the hunter.
NOW IF IT WAS 100% legal to shoot thieves  :mgun:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 09, 2015, 09:03:51 PM
That's not cool!  Shoot the Dbags drink a lot of booze and can't remember what happened and the Dbag can't either due to lead poisoning....... :chuckle:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 09, 2015, 10:09:00 PM
Saw a few cars running around the area last week that where obviously hunting. Not hunting big game, but rather hunting for peoples stuff. Couple cars had 3-4 kids in them and where eye balling camps as they drove by. One beat up green Pulsar with a headlight out really caught my eye. They know when elk season rolls around the high rollers move in and the area is ripe for shopping...
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: .257mag on November 09, 2015, 10:25:15 PM
Makes me want to go set up a dummy camp with all kinds of goodies and just stake out in the brush.  Although id have a hard time just video taping and not sending rounds down range.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on November 10, 2015, 05:00:35 AM
They make less than lethal rounds...
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 10, 2015, 06:31:15 AM
I posted last week about this. The local drug dealer always gets good batches in this time of year. We have a substantial tweekers population. Last week, they also broke into horseshoe bend gravel pit and stole guns in the middle of the day while they were working.

They caught two yesterday in naches, probably not the same ones, but somehow connected.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Becky on November 10, 2015, 06:53:10 AM
Doesn't the law state something about legal to shoot if caught in the midst of committing a felony offense? -not suggesting anything but just can't remember what the exact law was now.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: sureshotpaleface on November 10, 2015, 06:58:12 AM
Hate to say this, but that area is really bad for this sort of thing.  Not going to say why, but it just never stops.


You can say why! I know why! Moved out of the lower valley cause of " why"
Same here!

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Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: fishngamereaper on November 10, 2015, 06:59:28 AM
Doesn't the law state something about legal to shoot if caught in the midst of committing a felony offense? -not suggesting anything but just can't remember what the exact law was now.

You can defend life or property but these days if you have an avenue of escape the courts will frown upon you cleansing the gene pool over some personal property.

Your better off roughing them up a little (they attacked first) tying them to a tree for LEO and accidently spilling honey on them...oh and when LEO arrives you forgot where you tied them.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: trophyhunt on November 10, 2015, 07:00:21 AM
Hmm, I came out of my tent and saw a guy holding my generator, then his hand came up and I thought it was a gun, I was scared for my life so I shot and killed the dirtbag.  Seems legal to me, that's just how it would play out if I saw someone stealing my stuff......just saying.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 07:20:19 AM

Hmm, I came out of my tent and saw a guy holding my generator, then his hand came up and I thought it was a gun, I was scared for my life so I shot and killed the dirtbag.  Seems legal to me, that's just how it would play out if I saw someone stealing my stuff......just saying.

:yeah:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Wazukie on November 10, 2015, 07:20:29 AM
Many camps raided and robbed this year on the FS 17 Little Natches Road, in cluding two of my buddies who had their CHAINED Honda generators cut and swiped.  One hunter was sleeping in his camper and had his generator swiped while he slept.  Other guys I talked to down by Whistling Jacks claimed to have lost everything including guns.

One or more hunters claimed to have caught a sheriff on game camera stealing their stuff.  If you have images, I would love to have them.  or, Yakima County Sheriff is doing the investigation.

Be careful out there....*censored*s everywhere >:(

All these comments about "tweakers" yet no mention of the alleged "sheriff" caught on camera?  Should be easy to take that to the investigating authorities :dunno: 
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Bango skank on November 10, 2015, 07:27:32 AM
Tweaker with a sheriff costume from halloween
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 10, 2015, 07:35:32 AM
Tweaker with a sheriff costume from halloween


 :yeah:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: elkfool41 on November 10, 2015, 11:33:37 AM
I was in there area for my bull tag a couple of weeks ago and saw multiple suspicious vehicles in the area. Luckily, my brother and I locked everything up pretty good. Sorry to hear, hope they catch the SOB.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Bean Counter on November 10, 2015, 11:36:05 AM

Hmm, I came out of my tent and saw a guy holding my generator, then his hand came up and I thought it was a gun, I was scared for my life so I shot and killed the dirtbag.  Seems legal to me, that's just how it would play out if I saw someone stealing my stuff......just saying.

:yeah:


Should work fine as long as you're not a cop... and the perp passes the skin color litmus test. A white tweaker is one thing, but God help you if you shoot the president's son Trayvon  :o
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: WapitiChaser on November 10, 2015, 12:33:42 PM
Thanks everyone. We have to watch out for each other out there.  We spend way too much of our time and money on our passion to let some hairballs wreck our vacations/holiday.  We collectively spend millions on this sport so I would think WDFW would want to focus some policing on this issue to keep the dollars rolling in. 

As Natches said.  It is a yearly thing for the criminals.  The very site we camped in was hit four years ago during deer.  The guy was packing out as we pulled in and had just had his generator chain cut.

Side bar,  I ate my cow tag this year!   Had em stumbling out every day at thirty feet until Wednesday and then *poof*,   They were gone!  Had several after that at 400 to 1000 yds but I don't wanna just hurt them.  I wanna eat them! 
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: coachcw on November 10, 2015, 12:42:54 PM
a few years ago my buddy had is truck broke into in the bottom of robinson canyon during modern ...in plain sight. the got a 45 and a rifle. dushe bags
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: snake on November 10, 2015, 07:43:52 PM
put a game cam or two on your camp.  If more people puts cams on their camp we'll catch or discourage these *censored* from stealing our gear.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Naches Sportsman on November 10, 2015, 08:07:24 PM
Thanks everyone. We have to watch out for each other out there.  We spend way too much of our time and money on our passion to let some hairballs wreck our vacations/holiday.  We collectively spend millions on this sport so I would think WDFW would want to focus some policing on this issue to keep the dollars rolling in. 

As Natches said.  It is a yearly thing for the criminals.  The very site we camped in was hit four years ago during deer.  The guy was packing out as we pulled in and had just had his generator chain cut.

It ain't wdfw or usfs causing stuff to be stolen, it is hunters. Lock up your stuff people. The city folk get away from the city and then the s.a. goes out the window.  Small communities means less jobs and higher drug rates. That generator was enough to buy drugs for the week.  Now that modern firearm is over, they will go back into the routine of breaking into 5-10 cabins a week. Again, 75% of the cabins are owned by west side families and they leave valuables in there.

Eventually these people will meet the not so friendly K-9 running around in the hills.

Btw, the tweekers caught in naches yesterday were heroin addicts. They are somehow are connected to all of this.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Timberstalker on November 10, 2015, 08:12:37 PM
How in the world can you blame the theft on the hunters not locking their stuff up? Holy crap. That's like saying a gun is to blame for all the school shootings we've seen. Your theory makes as much sense as wiping before you poop.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: bobcat on November 10, 2015, 08:13:17 PM
Thanks everyone. We have to watch out for each other out there.  We spend way too much of our time and money on our passion to let some hairballs wreck our vacations/holiday.  We collectively spend millions on this sport so I would think WDFW would want to focus some policing on this issue to keep the dollars rolling in. 

As Natches said.  It is a yearly thing for the criminals.  The very site we camped in was hit four years ago during deer.  The guy was packing out as we pulled in and had just had his generator chain cut.

It ain't wdfw or usfs causing stuff to be stolen, it is hunters. Lock up your stuff people. The city folk get away from the city and then the s.a. goes out the window.  Small communities means less jobs and higher drug rates. That generator was enough to buy drugs for the week.  Now that modern firearm is over, they will go back into the routine of breaking into 5-10 cabins a week. Again, 75% of the cabins are owned by west side families and they leave valuables in there.

Eventually these people will meet the not so friendly K-9 running around in the hills.

Btw, the tweekers caught in naches yesterday were heroin addicts. They are somehow are connected to all of this.

Well, I wouldn't exactly say hunters are "causing stuff to be stolen."  And it sounds like the thieves are cutting the chains people are using to LOCK up their generators.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: 2labs on November 10, 2015, 08:37:41 PM
Hmmm. Wow
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Bango skank on November 10, 2015, 08:46:48 PM
Your theory makes as much sense as wiping before you poop.

Wait, are you saying ive been doing it wrong my whole life?
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Thehowler on November 10, 2015, 09:00:44 PM
And this is a area that has only one clear paved road out to escape with the goods to hwy 410?
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Timberstalker on November 10, 2015, 09:24:13 PM
Your theory makes as much sense as wiping before you poop.

Wait, are you saying ive been doing it wrong my whole life?
You are from Colville....... Just saying.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Old Man Yager on November 11, 2015, 02:38:19 PM
Your theory makes as much sense as wiping before you poop.

Wait, are you saying ive been doing it wrong my whole life?
You are from Colville....... Just saying.
You guys are killing me 💩
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: bigtex on November 11, 2015, 02:42:23 PM
We collectively spend millions on this sport so I would think WDFW would want to focus some policing on this issue to keep the dollars rolling in.
There's a lot of people on this site who don't want WDFW Officers doing anything other then enforcing fish and wildlife laws....
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: cbond3318 on November 11, 2015, 02:46:29 PM
This is one of many reason as to  why I hunt lite, the only thing at camp I would miss if stolen is my truck and I leave it unlocked to save a window. Everything I have coin into is on my back during the day and at my feet at night.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: winslow on November 15, 2015, 09:21:09 PM
Years ago, almost two decades, actually, I spent my first time here in WA. Coming from the east coast (upstate NY), I was used to a certain level of respect and security. We never locked our houses, we left the keys in our cars, and we didn't have to lock our bikes up. What we had, we valued, and we understood that others valued what they had.

I came out and spent a few days in the Gifford Pinchot NF. I had $3k worth of bikes (all locked up) stolen. I had been warned that it was different out west, but I didn't understand. That was a disillusioning moment for me. Since then, I fret and worry about everything being stolen, and still I have had more stolen. Mostly irreplaceable things of value only to me, which is worse, because what had meaning to me only got some thief a few dollars but it's lost to me forever.

Between the politics of Seattle dominating all of our lives and this disrespectful, thoughtless theft problem I don't even want to live here any more. I hope I can get out before I am faced with the decision to kill or not kill one of these losers.

I'm not complaining, more just sad about the state of the state. I hope the thieves get a conscience and some respect and don't push any of us into that fateful position.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Skillet on November 15, 2015, 09:53:24 PM
It's more a sign of the times than the location you're in.  Meth is everywhere.  :twocents:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: winslow on November 15, 2015, 10:06:34 PM
It's more a sign of the times than the location you're in.  Meth is everywhere.  :twocents:
could be. haven't been back in a while. it was a stark contrast at the time, though. probably time to go where meth heads can't survive.
Title: Engrish
Post by: Bean Counter on November 15, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
One thief / Two thieves

One knife / Two knives

 etc ;)

Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Thehowler on November 15, 2015, 10:44:28 PM
If you catch them in the act,  and theY pull a weapon, shoot until they quit moving!
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: MADMAX on November 16, 2015, 08:54:30 AM
This is one of many reason as to  why I hunt lite, the only thing at camp I would miss if stolen is my truck and I leave it unlocked to save a window. Everything I have coin into is on my back during the day and at my feet at night.


 :yeah:

I have had my truck window smashed and stuf taken
now I leave zero
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: rtspring on November 16, 2015, 09:17:33 AM
29 years of hunting the area and never had one issue with theft.  But then again I carry a big stick!!! 

Thieves are right up there with rapists in my book!  Bury them where they stand...
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: RonFron on November 16, 2015, 01:58:59 PM
Hello All:

    My name is Ron.  Ive been an avid reader on the forum for quite some time but never thought of posting until today.

I hunt 346 - Little Naches (Navy Camp @ Longmire Meadow) and was present for this years modern Elk season.  (Currently looking for recipes to spice up a 4"X6" paper cow tag) Cuz I'm eatin that sucker, grill, boil, roast I'm open to all suggestions!!!!

Anyway, regarding the Sheriff who may have been photographed on some trail cams in a few Elk camps.  He was going camp to camp looking for an overdue hunter.  An Elk hunter whose name I have forgotten, didn't check in with his concerned spouse when he was supposed to and was two days overdue coming home.  The Sheriff was literally knocking on every trailer and tent all-day long on the last day of the season (Sunday Nov 8th)  to find this guy, he worked 15+ hours and into the night because this person did not leave a detailed map with his spouse documenting his whereabouts.  The Sheriff checked in with our camp as well and spent almost an hour asking about different camp locations, he was quite surprised to find out that some thought he was out there in uniform all day to steal generators.  But that is exactly what a few Hunters running up and down FR19 Sunday night were saying.

I am fairly certain after meeting with him personally that no one has a trail cam photo of a Sheriff with a generator in his hand.  I'm just sayin.

I have the Sheriffs card and he is willing to take any and all details concerning the green car with the missing headlight who seems to be the leading suspect in the thefts. 

Thought you'd like to know,
Ron Fron





 
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 16, 2015, 02:06:25 PM
Welcome and funny first post, Ron.  Stick around and you will see that there is generally no ill-will toward LE, here.  We witch-hunt pretty much everyone equally.   
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: Skyvalhunter on November 16, 2015, 02:10:17 PM
Thanks for the informative post Ron
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: scrapperdude on November 16, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
you think elk camp crime is bad, go park in a parking lot at the mall around the holidays and see what happens  :bdid:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: wsucougs8 on November 16, 2015, 03:44:55 PM
you think elk camp crime is bad, go park in a parking lot at the mall around the holidays and see what happens  :bdid:

You know, everything is so much safer at home, in a secure house. You can buy things from home, have groceries delivered to your home, and you can even work from home. We can do all this in the safety of our own homes, why the heck can't we figure out how to hunt from home too!? Wouldn't have to worry about sheriffs and bad guys stealing our generators. We could take whatever we wanted with us to hunt without worrying if it is going to get stolen. We wouldn't have to worry about hunting around other people who look like they might steal our stuff. Life would be so much better if we could hunt in our own homes.
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: WapitiChaser on November 16, 2015, 05:08:00 PM
Hmmm.  Touched a nerve here for a lot of us.

First to Ron:   My dad was a game warden in Alaska when I was a kid. So no disrespect to our brothers in blue who deal with but holes all day.  I was apparently not the only person who heard about it.   Hope it is unfounded.  That is why I started the thread to see if there WAS a photo around,  or to solicit any possible witnesses.

Second:  this stuff does go on.  We don't accept it or like it but here we are.  I feel bad cause I pulled out on Saturday and took my game cameras (security) with me.  Otherwise we would have one less to deal with next year. I for one can't wait for next year ( only 340 short days to go!).   I won't stay home. I don't worry about jerks that have such a miserable existence they have to feed their habit through crime.

Third:  my camp,  and probably a lot of this board, are prior service.  (Go Army!).
We *could* "fix" this ourselves.  I am thinking about being camp cook next year.   I will be the one in the gilly suit  :bfg:
Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: SniperDanWA on November 16, 2015, 05:45:30 PM
Welcome and funny first post, Ron.  Stick around and you will see that there is generally no ill-will toward LE, here.  We witch-hunt pretty much everyone equally.

Which witch we hunt depends on which topic we hold near and dear.  Thanks for your post Ron and I'm slathering my tag with Stubb's BBQ this year after I roast it over an open flame for the perfect charred taste.  It will be seasoned to perfection with a great Mix of salt, pepper, chipotle, and a dash of garlic.  I'm hoping it's not too tough this year, like in past years; however, I may tenderize the rag first.  Honestly, the more holes in it the better it will char, but I digress.

Title: Re: THIEFS ON THE LOOSE IN NATCHES - WARNING TO ALL
Post by: RonFron on November 24, 2015, 12:21:16 PM
I enjoy reading these posts!!!

I do believe the only reason they skipped our camp is because we usually have someone "Holding down the Fort" to put it in Army terms!

It sure would be fun to catch them with bolt cutters in hand wouldn't it?
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