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Title: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: splitshot on November 10, 2015, 07:10:36 PM
  am getting one for Christmas, fine.     what do I do with the 15 or 20 knives I already have?   what did you guys who switched do with yours?   mike w
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Bob33 on November 10, 2015, 07:12:18 PM
The Havalons are far more popular, and thus easier to find blades for. Those who own both seem to think a bit more highly of the Outdoor Edge. :twocents:
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: jrebel on November 10, 2015, 07:13:59 PM
Love my Havalons.  Really like the saw they offer too.....it works amazing!!   :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Bango skank on November 10, 2015, 07:16:58 PM
The only reasons havalons are more popular is that they came along first, and many people havent tried the outdoor edge.  Once i got one of the outdoor edge replaceable blade knives i gave away both of my havalons.  Simple and safe to swap blades in yhe oe without a pair of pliers, and the design of the blade holders make the blades sturdy, unlike the havalon blades which may break.  100% hands down get the outdoor edge.  Blades are plenty easy to find on amazon / ebay
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: sled on November 10, 2015, 07:17:27 PM
Havalon has impressed me.  Done deer and elk with it.  One thing to mention, is that if your skinning for any kind of mount do not use one.  No matter how careful you are they are so sharp you will cut the hide!
I do not own an outdoor edge, so I can't comment on that.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: MtnMuley on November 10, 2015, 07:18:13 PM
Havalon. Do I need to post pics to prove why I feel this way?? :chuckle:
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Smossy on November 10, 2015, 07:18:18 PM
I like them both and they each have they're place. Havalon being sharper and having some flexibility, Outdoor edge being sharp also and having more spine.
If i had to make a choice. I like the outdoor edge with replacable blades. Fits better in my hand, longer stronger blades.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Whitpirate on November 10, 2015, 07:18:54 PM
I have the new Havalon Titan.  Best of both worlds and the only knife in the kill kit.  Used it on 4 pigs and 2 elk now.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: adamR on November 10, 2015, 07:24:11 PM
I used the Havalon on my buck this year and was pretty disappointed.  There is no strength to it so you are limited in the work you can do. It's a pain to replace blades.  It is awesome to have such a sharp blade constantly. 

I used the outdoor edge on my second deer and really liked it.  Same sharp blade, easy to change blades, and much more rigid for skinning and quartering.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: coachcw on November 10, 2015, 07:30:57 PM
I'd give the outdoor edge the advantage and the model  with the gut hook rules it also is sweet for skiing with the dull point.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: KFhunter on November 10, 2015, 07:31:22 PM
I carry both a havalon and a traditional hunting knife. 

May ditch the havalon though and just carry the traditional hunting knife now that I'm sharpening them with a work sharp belt grinder,  my hunting knifes are sharp now.  I never had a talent for a stone, not even a lansky, but I've got the work sharp down.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: HUNTaHOLIC5 on November 10, 2015, 07:31:53 PM
I don't plan on using anything other than the havalon any time soon. I've tried both side by side and the havalon works better for me. I've yet to have a problem changing the blade.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: dreamunelk on November 10, 2015, 07:34:08 PM
  am getting one for Christmas, fine.     what do I do with the 15 or 20 knives I already have?   what did you guys who switched do with yours?   mike w

Keep them :tup:  Knives are like guns and fishing poles.   No such thing as enough.

I have the new Havalon Titan.  Best of both worlds and the only knife in the kill kit.  Used it on 4 pigs and 2 elk now.


Didn't know about the Titan.  Looks like I have another knife to buy :chuckle:

have Havalon and Outdoor edge.  I like them both.   The Havalon is weaker.  Just have to know how to use them. 
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: KFhunter on November 10, 2015, 07:34:20 PM
I don't plan on using anything other than the havalon any time soon. I've tried both side by side and the havalon works better for me. I've yet to have a problem changing the blade.

I have had issues, no injuries but my hands were super cold and it sucked changing the blade
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: jrebel on November 10, 2015, 07:35:36 PM
I have the new Havalon Titan.  Best of both worlds and the only knife in the kill kit.  Used it on 4 pigs and 2 elk now.

OHHHHH....I need to get one of those.   :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Whitpirate on November 10, 2015, 07:37:46 PM
  am getting one for Christmas, fine.     what do I do with the 15 or 20 knives I already have?   what did you guys who switched do with yours?   mike w

Keep them :tup:  Knives are like guns and fishing poles.   No such thing as enough.

I have the new Havalon Titan.  Best of both worlds and the only knife in the kill kit.  Used it on 4 pigs and 2 elk now.


Didn't know about the Titan.  Looks like I have another knife to buy :chuckle:

have Havalon and Outdoor edge.  I like them both.   The Havalon is weaker.  Just have to know how to use them.

It isn't perfect but it comes close...

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Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: KFhunter on November 10, 2015, 07:41:09 PM
I like that  :tup:
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Coastal_native on November 10, 2015, 07:41:32 PM
Have used both plenty.  Similar experiences as others.  Havalon blades break fairly easy, especially if you prefer to carry one knife for completely breaking down an animal...gutting, skinning, separating joints, boning out meat.  The outdoor edge is more rigid and has a more traditional folding knife feel to it, however, I've found that the little contour/ridge where the blade slides into the knife is problematic for some tasks, such as separating bone and slicing meat.  I love both knives, but I might lean slightly towards the outdoor edge for it's easy blade replacement and traditional folding knife feel.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: huntandjeep on November 10, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
Another vote for the Outdoor edge.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 10, 2015, 07:44:10 PM
I carry both. I favor the outdoor edge a lot more for all around work. I like the havalon for caping and finer work. I like the havalon a lot more with the new thicker blades. The 60xt blades break a lot easier with almost any flex. Now i carry both.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Coastal_native on November 10, 2015, 07:46:58 PM
I carry both. I favor the outdoor edge a lot more for all around work. I like the havalon for caping and finer work. I like the havalon a lot more with the new thicker blades. The 60xt blades break a lot easier with almost any flex. Now i carry both.

Good point.  Havalon is much better for caping.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: D-Rock425 on November 10, 2015, 07:48:31 PM
I have the swingblade and still use that all the time.  I also pack my havalon now too.  I haven't tried the outdoor edge knife with replaceable blades.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: D-Rock425 on November 10, 2015, 07:49:57 PM
If I'm packing in and weight is an issue I'm only taking the havalon.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: splitshot on November 10, 2015, 08:34:54 PM
  I wonder when outdoor edge will come out with a copy like the titan.  I like the titan but am getting the edge.  mike w
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: High Climber on November 10, 2015, 08:51:54 PM
I used the Havalonpiranta last year, worked up two elk and a deer with it including caping and turning the face. Worked great but needed a fixed blade for popping joints and working the hide from around the base of antlers. Used the Titan this year and it was perfect for me. I've never had an issue changing blades and usually go through 5-6 of them per critter to maintain a super sharp blade. Haven't tried the outdoor edge but know a few guys that run them and love them. Still wonder about popping joints with them as I don't carry a bone saw. I think you will be happy with either.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: dreamunelk on November 10, 2015, 08:55:32 PM
  am getting one for Christmas, fine.     what do I do with the 15 or 20 knives I already have?   what did you guys who switched do with yours?   mike w

Keep them :tup:  Knives are like guns and fishing poles.   No such thing as enough.

I have the new Havalon Titan.  Best of both worlds and the only knife in the kill kit.  Used it on 4 pigs and 2 elk now.


Didn't know about the Titan.  Looks like I have another knife to buy :chuckle:

have Havalon and Outdoor edge.  I like them both.   The Havalon is weaker.  Just have to know how to use them.

It isn't perfect but it comes close...

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fep.yimg.com%2Fay%2Fyhst-35864383674868%2Ftitan-jim-shockey-signature-series-1.gif&hash=9c748106ea63a9f31d4d20b50f27f48d28eeefd5)

It is just a click away :chuckle:
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Tbar on November 10, 2015, 08:58:18 PM
My only complaint about the outdoor edge is the release button, no matter what I always seem to grip it.  It is so annoying to me that I'll take the Havalon most of the time.  I usually have no problems breaking an animal down with either one.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Wa hunter on November 10, 2015, 09:00:54 PM
I have had a few Havalons they work well but the new Kershaw lonerock
  looks increasing at 40.00.  It comes with 15 blades and a buddy knife.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: X-Force on November 10, 2015, 09:03:46 PM
I've been sold on the havalon. 2 bear, 3 elk, 4 deer... broke a couple blades but they are easy to change out. Wear cut resistant gloves :twocents:
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: dreamunelk on November 10, 2015, 09:08:31 PM
  am getting one for Christmas, fine.     what do I do with the 15 or 20 knives I already have?   what did you guys who switched do with yours?   mike w

Keep them :tup:  Knives are like guns and fishing poles.   No such thing as enough.

I have the new Havalon Titan.  Best of both worlds and the only knife in the kill kit.  Used it on 4 pigs and 2 elk now.


Didn't know about the Titan.  Looks like I have another knife to buy :chuckle:

have Havalon and Outdoor edge.  I like them both.   The Havalon is weaker.  Just have to know how to use them.

It isn't perfect but it comes close...

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fep.yimg.com%2Fay%2Fyhst-35864383674868%2Ftitan-jim-shockey-signature-series-1.gif&hash=9c748106ea63a9f31d4d20b50f27f48d28eeefd5)

It is just a click away :chuckle:

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My only complaint about the outdoor edge is the release button, no matter what I always seem to grip it.  It is so annoying to me that I'll take the Havalon most of the time.  I usually have no problems breaking an animal down with either one.
.

Agree that button is in the wrong place.

Breaking down is easy with either. 
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: duckmen1 on November 10, 2015, 09:18:00 PM
I am a huge outdoor edge fan. Also love my havalon. Have used both for a long time. Pros to the havalon is how small and versital it is and you can carry a ton of blades without weighing down your pack. You manually put the blades in place on a fixed piece. Huge advantage when talking long term use without wearing a knife components out. The outdoor edge is a little bigger for easier handling and a little sturdier on the design for heavier leverage on a blade. But the outdoor edge has a internal part that clips the blade into place that wears out. And when cleaning an animal fat and such will gunk up inside the blade cavity and clog up the area for replacing blades. And outdoor edge knives have a tendency to have screws loosen over time that you have to tighten. Like I said I like both but after extensive use I would have to put my money on the havalon.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: FWilliams on November 10, 2015, 10:24:50 PM
outdoor edge , gave both my havalon's away after using it.  haven't had a chance to try the titan yet, looks promising.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: KFhunter on November 10, 2015, 10:33:35 PM
I popped a lot of joints with the havalon w/o breaking a blade but I don't use it like a pry bar.  I just slice in the right spots then bend the joint to get the tendons in the middle with the tip of the havalon.

I like to split pelvis's in the field though and the havalon is certainly not up to that.  I could just tie and pull through but I've split them for so many years it's just my preference.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: D-Rock425 on November 11, 2015, 10:29:14 AM
I used the Havalonpiranta last year, worked up two elk and a deer with it including caping and turning the face. Worked great but needed a fixed blade for popping joints and working the hide from around the base of antlers. Used the Titan this year and it was perfect for me. I've never had an issue changing blades and usually go through 5-6 of them per critter to maintain a super sharp blade. Haven't tried the outdoor edge but know a few guys that run them and love them. Still wonder about popping joints with them as I don't carry a bone saw. I think you will be happy with either.
5 or 6 blades per animal :yike:  I just about do a whole elk with 1 blade.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: 7mmfan on November 11, 2015, 10:58:16 AM
I used the Havalonpiranta last year, worked up two elk and a deer with it including caping and turning the face. Worked great but needed a fixed blade for popping joints and working the hide from around the base of antlers. Used the Titan this year and it was perfect for me. I've never had an issue changing blades and usually go through 5-6 of them per critter to maintain a super sharp blade. Haven't tried the outdoor edge but know a few guys that run them and love them. Still wonder about popping joints with them as I don't carry a bone saw. I think you will be happy with either.
5 or 6 blades per animal :yike:  I just about do a whole elk with 1 blade.

That's what I was going to say! I broke down my entire deer from start to finish (field dressed, skinned/quartered, and boned out at home) with one blade.

I got the Havalon Titan this year and will never use another knife. I pulled out the folder to cut some of the heavier joints, worked great.

Only complaint was last night when I was working on the head getting it ready for cooking this weekend, I did break 2 blades, but I learned quickly how much flex is to much flex and then had no issues. I don't know what people are saying about difficulty changing blades, I have no problem doing them by hand, I can see a pair of pliers being safer though.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: KFhunter on November 11, 2015, 06:35:05 PM
my fingers were numb with cold and it sucked
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: Eli346 on November 11, 2015, 06:48:05 PM
 I've used my Razor's Edge Pro (with the gut hook) on a deer and a couple of elk so far with one blade change. I actually had the Piranta in my pack also but it's just there because I have trouble parting with a knife.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: jackelope on November 11, 2015, 07:14:52 PM

I popped a lot of joints with the havalon w/o breaking a blade but I don't use it like a pry bar.  I just slice in the right spots then bend the joint to get the tendons in the middle with the tip of the havalon.

I like to split pelvis's in the field though and the havalon is certainly not up to that.  I could just tie and pull through but I've split them for so many years it's just my preference.

Right. You don't "need" a knife to pop joints. Know what you're working with and you'll do fine with the Havalon. I've done 2 whole deer with mine and broke 1 blade. No saws, no nothing other than the havalon. I do not Like changing the blades on the Havalon. It's mildly terrifying. I haven't tried the outdoor edge one but maybe I should. 
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: splitshot on November 11, 2015, 08:22:22 PM
   where do the  blades go when a new one is replaced.  hope they  are not tossed away.    mike w
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: jackelope on November 11, 2015, 08:26:48 PM
I put mine in a plastic bottle then toss  the bottle.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: teanawayslayer on November 11, 2015, 08:29:55 PM
I have both and I like neither. I use them for a little bit and get tired of them in a hurry. I always find myself in the pack grabbing the cutco. Far seperior knife that never dulls and never breaks!
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: KFhunter on November 11, 2015, 08:31:33 PM
I put mine in a plastic bottle then toss  the bottle.

My last used havalon blade got deposited in an empty bottle of Hershey chocolate coffee creamer
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: carpsniperg2 on November 11, 2015, 08:48:03 PM

I popped a lot of joints with the havalon w/o breaking a blade but I don't use it like a pry bar.  I just slice in the right spots then bend the joint to get the tendons in the middle with the tip of the havalon.

I like to split pelvis's in the field though and the havalon is certainly not up to that.  I could just tie and pull through but I've split them for so many years it's just my preference.

Right. You don't "need" a knife to pop joints. Know what you're working with and you'll do fine with the Havalon. I've done 2 whole deer with mine and broke 1 blade. No saws, no nothing other than the havalon. I do not Like changing the blades on the Havalon. It's mildly terrifying. I haven't tried the outdoor edge one but maybe I should.

A lot safer without a pair of pliers! Just the push of a button. I saw some place that havalon has a new tool out that is used for changing the blades. Looks like a credit card but a little thicker. You are not the only one they scare, so much so that they made a new tool cause they hear it a lot.
Title: Re: havalon or outdoor edge
Post by: High Climber on November 12, 2015, 09:06:14 AM
I used the Havalonpiranta last year, worked up two elk and a deer with it including caping and turning the face. Worked great but needed a fixed blade for popping joints and working the hide from around the base of antlers. Used the Titan this year and it was perfect for me. I've never had an issue changing blades and usually go through 5-6 of them per critter to maintain a super sharp blade. Haven't tried the outdoor edge but know a few guys that run them and love them. Still wonder about popping joints with them as I don't carry a bone saw. I think you will be happy with either.
5 or 6 blades per animal :yike:  I just about do a whole elk with 1 blade.
Certainly doable with less... I figure if I am using a razor blade I might as well keep it razor sharp. I put the used blades back in the foil then back in the sheath then dispose at home.
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