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Title: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on November 23, 2015, 02:12:05 PM
After another year of frustration with Washington modern elk hunting and not being drawn for any permits me and my Dad are going to try to go over to Idaho for 2016.  I'm not a trophy hunter I just want to see some animals if I'm going to invest time and $ into elk hunting.  We don't have time to drive all over Idaho and scout the whole state.  So I'd like to ask for some advise about what units we should look at?  Should I just go by success rate?  I'd like to hunt somewhat open areas that are lightly timbered.  Not like western Washington.  Any info is 100 times more than what I know now.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: trophyhunt on November 23, 2015, 02:20:02 PM
Go to their website and look at the success rates for each unit, that gives you an idea of what units are producing. We hunt 10a and we do really well, it's a big unit so you just have to find your way around.  But try the website first to see if anything sticks out at you. 
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: 2labs on November 23, 2015, 02:28:41 PM
Idaho fish and game really have a nice web site! Tell you what you want to know. :tup:

                  WASHINGTON SUCKS AT EVERYTHING!!

Sorry, torets
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on November 23, 2015, 02:32:44 PM
Are the OTC non-res tags capped at a different number than res tags
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: Bob33 on November 23, 2015, 02:33:41 PM
http://fishandgame.idaho.gov/ifwis/huntplanner/stats.aspx?season=general&game=elk&yr=2014#elk

See attached Excel file. Filter by the type of hunting method you prefer.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on November 23, 2015, 02:42:43 PM
Are the OTC non-res tags capped at a different number than res tags

Idaho NR OTC tags seldom sell out. Congrats on making the decision to transition  :tup:
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on November 23, 2015, 02:53:24 PM
How long are you planning on hunting?  Can you come over multiple times for a week or so, or is it going to be just 1 trip and that's it?
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: wannabhntr on November 23, 2015, 03:03:39 PM
We are in the same boat. My in laws have property in Hayden that borders forest service land. I know they have elk but I don't know how big the herd is. We will be hunting archery. I plan on doing a lot of scouting over there this spring and summer. This was my first year elk hunting but I am familiar with washington draw system. I have many friends that hunt the spike only units with little success. Some hunt north in any bull units with little success as well.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: theleo on November 23, 2015, 03:08:54 PM
Avoid the Pan handle, northern Idaho brush is everything that the wet side wishes it could be. The further south you go the more it opens up. What sort of hunts do you prefer? Mostly using the truck to operate from or do you prefer going back in and away from people (use horses)?
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on November 23, 2015, 03:19:12 PM
Ya, the Panhandle areas are steep, thick, steep, and thick but there are a few elk left up there  :rolleyes:  Elk pops seem to increase the farther you head south and there are less wolves on their heels. 



 
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: pd on November 23, 2015, 03:27:34 PM
Ya, the Panhandle areas are steep, thick, steep, and thick but there are a few elk left up there  :rolleyes:  Elk pops seem to increase the farther you head south and there are less wolves on their heels. 

That is still a great shot, RJ.   :tup:

Phantom is right, the Panhandle can be really steep, and the national forests are very thick (very little logging in the past couple decades).  Do your research on the IDFG website (all of the answers to your questions are there).  Some units do not have OTC tags.  Draw tags are limited to 10% of the pool for non-residents.  However, you do NOT need to draw a special tag to have a successful hunt for elk in Idaho---there truly is plenty of opportunity there.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: theleo on November 23, 2015, 04:04:14 PM
Ya, the Panhandle areas are steep, thick, steep, and thick but there are a few elk left up there  :rolleyes:  Elk pops seem to increase the farther you head south and there are less wolves on their heels. 



 
He doesn't want the thick cover, that's the only reason I said avoid it. I prefer the Pioneer zone but some here say it's to crowded and to low of a success rate.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: Jimmy33 on November 23, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
I like the panhandle area myself...plenty of success and small crowds. There are some areas where the forest is not as thick and dense. There are elk all throughout the panhandle.


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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: Jimmy33 on November 23, 2015, 04:20:33 PM
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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on November 24, 2015, 05:35:34 AM
We would probably go for 7-10 days in a row.  Don't have access to horses so we'd be in the truck, but I'm used to hiking 5+ miles in for elk.  I could probably find time in March or April for scouting, summers get crazy with halibut and salmon fishing.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: MADMAX on November 24, 2015, 05:55:13 AM
Been thinking of doing the same thing for both elk and deer

I have been hunting pretty constantly this year with multi season deer and eastside elk archery including the little naches quality bull permit.
I am ging back out tomorrow and will hit it for the remainder of archery seasons both elk and deer
But I have yet to have an opportunity to raise my bow or rifle
I hike in gates and closures, timber,glass, road hunt, spot and stalk  and quad
my worst year ever........so far
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on November 24, 2015, 08:05:45 AM
I drew multi season deer tag 2 years ago $$$. Archery hunted all September and ended up shooting a buck opening morning modern firearm.  Never doing that again for deer.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on November 24, 2015, 02:17:02 PM
Looking success rates and Google earth areas 32, 32A, and 22 look like a good starting point.  Any experience in those units?
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: Bigshooter on November 24, 2015, 07:42:36 PM
Looking success rates and Google earth areas 32, 32A, and 22 look like a good starting point.  Any experience in those units?

I like 22.  It's big country, mostly open.  Way more open than western wa.  Good numbers of elk.  Not a ton of roads.  But there will be lots of people on the roads. 
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: KFhunter on November 24, 2015, 07:52:45 PM
I'm hearing there's more WA plates than ID plates during the Elk modern now
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on November 25, 2015, 12:02:41 PM
I hear the area around McCall is good, especially if you only can make one trip. Or try the edge of the Frank church, early rifle tag and I know guys who hike in for a day and get bulls. 

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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on November 25, 2015, 12:21:34 PM
I see those areas are open for whitetail bucks too during elk season, but it looks like mule deer country to me.  Are there whitetails in those areas?
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on November 26, 2015, 04:33:20 AM
The church should have an early mulie season as well. 

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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on November 26, 2015, 04:47:17 AM
I see those areas are open for whitetail bucks too during elk season, but it looks like mule deer country to me.  Are there whitetails in those areas?

If you're referring to the "weiser river zone"(32, 32a, 22), those are primarily mule deer country. McCall zone(19a, 23, 24, 25)has deer and elk season running concurrently for 9 days I believe, deer would be any buck(mule or whitey) elk is any bull. From what I hear McCall zone can get crowded too but I've never hunted it. When people say a place gets crowded here though it usually means a parade of road hunters who will bitch and moan about the wolves eating all the deer and elk and you might even run into 1 or 2 guys out hiking occasionally
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on December 03, 2015, 05:50:33 AM
Think we are going to look at area 22 this spring to get a feel for the land, seems about 70% of that area is public land and a success rate of 20%
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: MADMAX on December 03, 2015, 06:04:18 AM
I may do the same for Mulies in the adjoining units
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: bigbullshedhunter on December 03, 2015, 07:49:04 AM
Ya, the Panhandle areas are steep, thick, steep, and thick but there are a few elk left up there  :rolleyes:  Elk pops seem to increase the farther you head south and there are less wolves on their heels. 

That is still a great shot, RJ.   :tup:

Phantom is right, the Panhandle can be really steep, and the national forests are very thick (very little logging in the past couple decades).  Do your research on the IDFG website (all of the answers to your questions are there).  Some units do not have OTC tags.  Draw tags are limited to 10% of the pool for non-residents.  However, you do NOT need to draw a special tag to have a successful hunt for elk in Idaho---there truly is plenty of opportunity there.
apparently you havnt been to the panhandle for the last 5 years cause they are logging like made men up there. It's ridiculous how much there cutting.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 03, 2015, 08:24:39 AM
They are logging lots of state land, I haven't seen much done to the national forest in unit 4.  They need to though.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on December 03, 2015, 08:25:29 AM
Ya, the Panhandle areas are steep, thick, steep, and thick but there are a few elk left up there  :rolleyes:  Elk pops seem to increase the farther you head south and there are less wolves on their heels. 

That is still a great shot, RJ.   :tup:

Phantom is right, the Panhandle can be really steep, and the national forests are very thick (very little logging in the past couple decades).  Do your research on the IDFG website (all of the answers to your questions are there).  Some units do not have OTC tags.  Draw tags are limited to 10% of the pool for non-residents.  However, you do NOT need to draw a special tag to have a successful hunt for elk in Idaho---there truly is plenty of opportunity there.
apparently you havnt been to the panhandle for the last 5 years cause they are logging like made men up there. It's ridiculous how much there cutting.

Yes sir, the bull in the photo was shot on 22 September 2015.  But yes, I agree that there is a ton of logging occurring in the northern part of the state. 
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: 7mmfan on December 05, 2015, 12:00:00 PM
I'm thinking very seriously about hunting elk in Idaho next year as well. I've been researching daily when I should be working :)  and have some areas narrowed down to start checking out. Has anyone ever done the early antlerless only hunts in Aug/Sep? I'm asking as I have a nephew who really got the hunting bug this year, got into lots of elk but no spikes to shoot. I thought this might be a great option to get him onto some animals without having to take time off school...
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: 7mmfan on December 08, 2015, 09:04:03 AM
Bumping this, anyone have any experience with these early antlerless hunts? Feel free to PM if you don't want to drop info on the interwebs...
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: theleo on December 11, 2015, 08:32:40 AM
Bumping this, anyone have any experience with these early antlerless hunts? Feel free to PM if you don't want to drop info on the interwebs...

Can't say I know the exact hunts your looking at (I'm guessing rifle) but I normally hunt the first half of September with my bow. I'd suggest looking at areas that don't have a ton of water. The majority of action I get early in the season is catching the elk heading in and out of their watering holes in the mornings and evenings. In the 70-80 degree heat they are doing most of their moving around at night and are hunkered down tight during the day. Finding areas that have water but limited amounts will make it easier finding the elk because they'll be concentrated going in and out of there instead of having elk spread out of tons of different watering holes/wallows. 
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: 7mmfan on December 11, 2015, 09:14:09 AM
Yes I'm looking at the early rifle cow hunts that run from either August 1 or August 15 through September in many of those central ID units. I really feel that it could be a good opportunity to get my nephew into some animals without his folks having to worry about him missing to much school.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 11, 2015, 01:17:54 PM
Yes I'm looking at the early rifle cow hunts that run from either August 1 or August 15 through September in many of those central ID units. I really feel that it could be a good opportunity to get my nephew into some animals without his folks having to worry about him missing to much school.

I couldn't justify spending that kind of money to hunt cows.  May as well hunt the bull seasons, you can make up assignments : )
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: MtnMuley on December 11, 2015, 01:20:28 PM
Yes I'm looking at the early rifle cow hunts that run from either August 1 or August 15 through September in many of those central ID units. I really feel that it could be a good opportunity to get my nephew into some animals without his folks having to worry about him missing to much school.

I couldn't justify spending that kind of money to hunt cows.  May as well hunt the bull seasons, you can make up assignments : )

Have you looked how cheap ID is for youth elk tags and licenses, even outta staters? :dunno:
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on December 11, 2015, 01:46:59 PM
Yes I'm looking at the early rifle cow hunts that run from either August 1 or August 15 through September in many of those central ID units. I really feel that it could be a good opportunity to get my nephew into some animals without his folks having to worry about him missing to much school.

I couldn't justify spending that kind of money to hunt cows.  May as well hunt the bull seasons, you can make up assignments : )

Have you looked how cheap ID is for youth elk tags and licenses, even outta staters? :dunno:

Yeah they are cheap, but someone has to buy the out of state adult tags.  Those aren't cheap.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on January 10, 2016, 06:10:53 PM
Do majority of elk units that give out a large amount of tags sell out? Or are there usually left over tags.  I already sent in my application but I was just curious.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: Eric M on January 10, 2016, 06:28:09 PM
Tag

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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on January 13, 2016, 04:07:56 PM

Do majority of elk units that give out a large amount of tags sell out? Or are there usually left over tags.  I already sent in my application but I was just curious.

What do you mean you sent in your application? When you purchase an elk tag, you would choose your zone and whether you want the A or B tag. Many zones have no quotas, if you chose a quota zone however the tag is first come first served.


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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on January 14, 2016, 06:46:00 AM
When you first buy a license you have to send in a non resident application as well as choose your hunting unit.  I picked 22 B tag.
Title: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on January 14, 2016, 11:20:19 AM
That is a non quota zone so unless the statewide non resident quota sells out before IDFG receives your application(it won't) you will have a tag. You can still apply for controlled hunts during the June application period and if you draw you would then just have to trade in you weiser river zone "B" tag. Hope I'm not muddying the waters with too much information. As it stands now if you are happy with that plan you could put in a time off request at work today and safely know you will have a tag come October.


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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on January 14, 2016, 11:25:18 AM
One more thing that tag will be good for units 32 & 32A as well


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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on January 18, 2016, 01:24:17 PM
Does hunting 32 and 32A require turning in the tag for 22 or is the unit 22 tag good for the whole weiser river area.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: andrew_in_idaho on January 18, 2016, 07:12:48 PM

Does hunting 32 and 32A require turning in the tag for 22 or is the unit 22 tag good for the whole weiser river area.
The tag is good for the whole weiser river area.


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Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: vandeman17 on January 18, 2016, 07:40:03 PM
I hear the area around McCall is good, especially if you only can make one trip. Or try the edge of the Frank church, early rifle tag and I know guys who hike in for a day and get bulls. 

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We are heading into the church with elk, deer and wolf tags in our pockets.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on January 19, 2016, 08:24:23 AM
Sweet thanks for all the help, I can't wait to get over there.  We will probably take a scouting trip in April and summer time to get a lay of the land and find a camp spot.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 19, 2016, 08:31:14 AM
April might be to early.  I would hold off till July so you shouldn't have to worry about roads being open or not.  Anything over 5000 will likely be snowed in.  Last year we got into the mountains early (June over 5000 feet), but this year we have a bit more snow.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: follow maggie on January 21, 2016, 01:06:12 PM
I'm going to hunt out of state this year, too. If Washington is going to continually attack me way of life, I guess I'll spend my money and time in other states. I've wanted to hunt elk & bear in Idaho for many years, this year I'm going to.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: MADMAX on January 21, 2016, 01:23:59 PM
So reading this thread I guess scouting most higher elevations this spring over that way is not advised, anyone ever look at unit 22&23 in the spring ?
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: follow maggie on January 21, 2016, 01:33:42 PM
It's too early in the year, I think. I wouldn't expect them to be in the same place as the fall.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: kball4 on January 21, 2016, 01:38:08 PM
I wouldn't be going in the spring to locate elk necessarily, I'm going cause I've never seen the land before and would like to get an idea of were good elk habitat is.  Instead of going in blind during the season.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: follow maggie on January 21, 2016, 03:09:52 PM
That's not a bad idea. You can bring a Gezzateer and mark down things like trails, water, beds, etc.
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: Mr Mykiss on January 21, 2016, 03:24:30 PM
I've attached a pic of my 2015 elk...
Title: Re: Going to Idaho for elk in 2016
Post by: 2MANY on January 22, 2016, 10:43:31 AM
You did?
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