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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Curly on January 21, 2009, 03:57:40 PM

Title: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: Curly on January 21, 2009, 03:57:40 PM: http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/seasonsetting/2009-2011_recommendations/232-12-051_ots-2145.1draft.pdf

Items of note:
1)modern sidearms are allowed for personal protection
2)209's are still not legal
3)they lined thru all the bullet requirements, so it appears that jacketed bullets will be legal
4) Muzzleloading firearms used during a modern firearm season are not required to meet ignition, sight, or double barrel restrictions.
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: Ray on January 21, 2009, 06:43:16 PM: I agree with those changes.
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Post by: Curly on January 21, 2009, 06:45:43 PM: Yeah, those changes sound good to me too.
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Post by: rasbo on January 21, 2009, 06:52:23 PM: I like that also,ive always packed but no worries now
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Post by: robodad on January 21, 2009, 07:00:25 PM: BUT, you can no longer use those ML in-lines with a hood over the nipple with a hole drilled in it to expose it to the elements. Have to be uncovered and able to be seen now !!
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on January 21, 2009, 08:11:04 PM: I agree with the changes, But i read this as "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the
frizzen must be visible and not capable of being covered or closed
by an integral part of the weapon proper. Means i can still put electrical tape over the breach...
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Post by: billythekidrock on January 21, 2009, 08:47:43 PM: Quote from: WDFW Hates ME!!! on January 21, 2009, 08:11:04 PM
I agree with the changes, But i read this as "Exposed to the weather" means the percussion cap or the
frizzen must be visible and not capable of being covered or closed
by an integral part of the weapon proper. Means i can still put electrical tape over the breach...

I take it to mean the same. Bet you could go old school and fashion a rawhide cover and be legal.
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: CP on January 22, 2009, 07:31:11 AM: I just read the changes to WAC 232-12-051 "Muzzleloading firearms", all good changes in my opinion.
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Post by: kramman on January 22, 2009, 06:22:17 PM: have you guys had a chance to check out the season changes?i have and i for one think we finally got our due.more game units open for muleys especially 215 i havent been able to hunt that unit since i went to muzzle.also check out the # of any buck permits for 200 series units for deer :IBCOOL:the last couple of years i havent even put in for special permits.
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Post by: colockumelk on January 22, 2009, 10:00:23 PM: I hunt muzzle loader for deer and the only thing that I don't like is that for the 371 Alkali hunt that used to be in late November they moved it to Sept 27-Oct16. The only thing that sucks about that is it's really hard to see any bucks until the rut starts. Once the rut starts you'll see 20 legal bucks a day but until then you have really got to work just to see one.
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on January 22, 2009, 10:36:32 PM: We on the west side have taken it in the shorts.
Lost 1 unit, reduced late hunt by 10 days in some units.
The people that hunt the either sex units got a few more days. I thought they might give us a few more units but they took 1 away.
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: billythekidrock on January 23, 2009, 06:01:47 AM: Quote from: kramman on January 22, 2009, 06:22:17 PM
have you guys had a chance to check out the season changes?i have and i for one think we finally got our due.more game units open for muleys especially 215 i havent been able to hunt that unit since i went to muzzle.also check out the # of any buck permits for 200 series units for deer :IBCOOL:the last couple of years i havent even put in for special permits.

While you may be happy for yourself and your usergroup. I hope you are upset that bear hunting in August will be against the law on PUBLIC land and that you write a letter expressing that.
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Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 23, 2009, 09:40:11 AM: Yeah, glad to hear they relaxed the sidearm rule. Now I don't have to keep it in my daypack.. :chuckle:
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Post by: kramman on January 23, 2009, 01:51:41 PM: btkr iam disapointed not only about the bear hunting but also about unit 101 going to a general late season.teacherman is right i hunt up there and that will ruin the area. and yes i did email my disapointment bout the bear season in august.but this being the muzzleloader forum i am excited to be able to hunt the sinlahekin again i cant wait to hike my kids up lemansky from the wildlife area that to me is gods country
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Post by: shag on January 25, 2009, 09:13:02 AM: In the proposed special permits how'd frontstuffers do as far as late season mulie permits?? Entiat?
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Post by: yelp on January 27, 2009, 09:15:21 PM: :tup: I like all of the proposed changes I have seen so far.
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Post by: bobcat on January 27, 2009, 09:18:24 PM: Quote from: WDFW Hates ME!!! on January 22, 2009, 10:36:32 PM
We on the west side have taken it in the shorts.
Lost 1 unit, reduced late hunt by 10 days in some units.
The people that hunt the either sex units got a few more days. I thought they might give us a few more units but they took 1 away.

Which one got taken away? I didn't notice that. A unit that we hunted early season this last year got switched to late season. But I didn't notice any completley eliminated. Sure was hoping they would add a couple. I'm thinking of switching to rifle but probably won't.
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Post by: HoofsandWings on January 27, 2009, 09:32:08 PM: From reading the proposed regs, I am seriously considering getting a muzzleloader for this fall elk hunt.
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Post by: bobcat on January 27, 2009, 09:42:59 PM: Why? What changes do you see that makes it look better than in previous years? I'm only asking because I'm thinking maybe you saw something that I didn't.
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: CP on January 28, 2009, 08:22:05 AM: I don’t see much change to ML elk season except the over lap with ML deer season has been addressed. Some tags have been added but it looks like the overall number of tags is less.
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: CP on January 28, 2009, 09:33:04 AM: Looks like about a 30% reduction in West side tags (about 315 less tags).
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Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on January 28, 2009, 07:10:45 PM: I guess i am special, i didn't see that they moved it. Not that it helps any we don't hunt those units, so moving that one in the early season will just moive them right down the road and make that one even more crowded than it already is.
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Post by: huntnfmly on January 30, 2009, 01:26:52 PM: The mashel gmu no longer will have late muzzleloader season
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Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2009, 01:46:17 PM: Thanks for mentioning that. I hadn't noticed.
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Post by: HoofsandWings on January 30, 2009, 06:51:47 PM: I see that Yale is part of the regular ml season. There are no permits or modern rifle there. I have seen lots of elk there.
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Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on January 30, 2009, 07:00:18 PM: Yale has always been part of the regular season... Come on down to hunt with the masses. Man that place is crowded...
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on January 31, 2009, 11:08:28 PM: Quote from: WDFW Hates ME!!! on January 30, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
Yale has always been part of the regular season... Come on down to hunt with the masses. Man that place is crowded...

They been stomping up my yard lately :chuckle:
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: fishunt247 on February 01, 2009, 09:25:37 AM: I'm not happy about----that we finally may get an Entiat tag, but its only for the five days after the rifle guys have been in there for 24; the general increase in all weapons special tags; that the late deer hunt in 578 is gone and not really replaced with another area;

I don't really care about----the new bullet rules; the longer early season (I've heard a lot of guys say they are switching to muzzleloader now)

I'm happy about----they don't allow 209's, or scopes, the season overlap issue (kindof)
Title: Re: RCW changes proposed by WDFW
Post by: gadwall on February 11, 2009, 03:40:04 PM: Quote from: kramman on January 22, 2009, 06:22:17 PM
have you guys had a chance to check out the season changes?i have and i for one think we finally got our due.more game units open for muleys especially 215 i havent been able to hunt that unit since i went to muzzle.also check out the # of any buck permits for 200 series units for deer :IBCOOL:the last couple of years i havent even put in for special permits.

I like the changes and agree. More opportunity out there for muzzleloaders. The archers will be cranky!
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Post by: yelp on February 11, 2009, 05:18:37 PM: I agree gadwall...there is a lot of whining. :'(