Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2015, 06:02:50 PM
I'm done with the Viper line as hunting is a pass/fail test and they failed.
Here is what I would like in a scope:
-30mm main tube
-something between 15 and 24 power
-50mm objective lens
-tactical elevation turret
-zero stop
-capped windage turret (not a deal breaker but prefered)
-stick around 30oz or less
Budget is $1500 max. Would very much prefer to stay closer to a grand. I had planned to do some work on the ol short mag this off season but I guess glass is in order first.
Also, I have access to a pretty steep discount on a Leupold item but it doesn't look like the Mark 4's have a zero stop. Has anyone used the Peters M1 zero stop?
Post by: Reidus on December 02, 2015, 06:11:12 PM
a Sightron SIII fits most of your criteria. They seem to track really well and good glass. They don't have a Zero-stop and not sure how they compare in durability since I haven't carried mine around too much. I got a 6-24x50 First Focal Plane MOA reticle. The FFP reticle is nice.
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 02, 2015, 06:14:06 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2015, 06:20:30 PM
I believe Nightforce is releasing a new SHV model scope with zero stop, exposed elevation turret, capped windage, in the 4-14x50 range. Currently the only SHV with zero stop is the 5-20x56. I don't know if any of the NXS models would work for you if you can find a good sale price.That would be nice. Only complaint about the SHV is the capped elevation turret. I've been searching for a good buy on a NXS model but so far no luck.
Post by: swift on December 02, 2015, 06:24:04 PM
Post by: DUGANDEER on December 02, 2015, 06:26:02 PM
How did your scope fail ?
:yeah:
I have 2 on my guns and I have had no issues....Yet.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2015, 06:26:38 PM
How did your scope fail ?Had a good shot opportunity on a good buck. Ranged, dialed, got into the gun, cranked the power ring up and my reticle spun with it. Thought I was seeing things, but nope! Spin the ring, reticle spins. Cost me that deer. Luckily I had a backup rifle. The Nikon Buckmaster on that one worked just fine. Pretty disappointing for a $500 scope.
Post by: JJB11B on December 02, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
So after having my Vortex Viper HS LR fail me in Montana last weekend I will soon be in the market for a new scope.The HS has known issues with the turrets... The PST is a much better scope
I'm done with the Viper line as hunting is a pass/fail test and they failed.
Here is what I would like in a scope:
-30mm main tube
-something between 15 and 24 power
-50mm objective lens
-tactical elevation turret
-zero stop
-capped windage turret (not a deal breaker but prefered)
-stick around 30oz or less
Budget is $1500 max. Would very much prefer to stay closer to a grand. I had planned to do some work on the ol short mag this off season but I guess glass is in order first.
Also, I have access to a pretty steep discount on a Leupold item but it doesn't look like the Mark 4's have a zero stop. Has anyone used the Peters M1 zero stop?
Post by: The scout on December 02, 2015, 06:30:40 PM
Post by: DUGANDEER on December 02, 2015, 06:34:22 PM
Wow that will ruin you with Vortex... Good to know at least.How did your scope fail ?Had a good shot opportunity on a good buck. Ranged, dialed, got into the gun, cranked the power ring up and my reticle spun with it. Thought I was seeing things, but nope! Spin the ring, reticle spins. Cost me that deer. Luckily I had a backup rifle. The Nikon Buckmaster on that one worked just fine. Pretty disappointing for a $500 scope.
Post by: Magnum_Willys on December 02, 2015, 06:39:53 PM
sounds like the leupold vx 6 3-18 might be a good fit, also would look into a steiner, seems like most nightforce scopes are on the heavier side for huntingYea that extra pound hardly seems worth it - swarovski glass is great for $1500. Leupold VX6 4-24 with CDS sounds like a winner.
Post by: Jason on December 02, 2015, 06:40:39 PM
http://www.burrisoptics.com/scopes/xtr-ii-riflescopes-series/xtr-ii-riflescope-4-20x50mm
Post by: Curly on December 02, 2015, 06:41:03 PM
http://swfa.com/Zeiss-5-25x50-Conquest-HD5-Rifle-Scope-P60844.aspx
Post by: follow maggie on December 02, 2015, 06:42:15 PM
Post by: hunting4sanity on December 02, 2015, 06:42:42 PM
I know It's no a 30mm tube, but take a peak at the Burris XTR II, 30.9oz, comes in MOA or MIL turrets and reticules, forever warranty, and it in your price range.+1 the Burris is a nice scope, good glass, good feel to the turret.
Post by: Jolten on December 02, 2015, 06:57:37 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2015, 07:03:54 PM
Never heard of that happening... If you're going to toss that scope I might be interested if its cheap... Since its broken and all :dunno::chuckle: Its in a box on its way back to Vortex for repair. Pretty certain it was the cold. It dipped down to -20 degrees and the guns were very cold. When I brought it inside and it warmed up it wouldn't do it anymore but now my cross hairs are closer to resembling an X :bash:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2015, 07:04:35 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on December 02, 2015, 07:05:25 PM
Post by: Jolten on December 02, 2015, 07:12:20 PM
How much adjustment am I going to get out of a 1" tube?
Not as much if you went with a 30mm tube. If I recall correctly a 1in tube will give around 50" of adjustment at 100yrds. Where the 30mm will give around 80" of adjustment. Of course I could be wrong.
Post by: Jolten on December 02, 2015, 07:13:36 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2015, 09:13:15 PM
Post by: splitshot on December 02, 2015, 09:19:27 PM
Post by: scudmaster on December 02, 2015, 09:22:04 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2015, 09:27:05 PM
I have the PST FFP 6-24 in mils. Great scope and i have never had a problem but I have not been out in -20 with it either. Bummer about the deer, it would be interesting to hear what Vortex has to say about it. If you can pass that on.Most definitely. I played with it some more and upon closer inspection, you do get a little reticle rotation when you get to each end of the power ring.
On the plus side, my Nikon Buckmaster 4-14x with a Kenton Industries MOA turret on it worked fine. 105gr Berger VLD out of my .243, right in the heart at 500 yards. Was a one shot dirt nap on the next buck, who was even bigger :chuckle:
Post by: scudmaster on December 02, 2015, 09:34:53 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 02, 2015, 09:56:14 PM
FFP or regular?second
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 02, 2015, 10:09:06 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 02, 2015, 10:11:20 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 03, 2015, 06:30:20 AM
Post by: headshot5 on December 03, 2015, 06:55:27 AM
If that won't do it for you, then a Leupold CDS VX-6 would work (also has 34mm tube). Good luck. :tup:
Post by: coachcw on December 03, 2015, 06:58:12 AM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 03, 2015, 07:25:35 AM
Post by: jasnt on December 03, 2015, 07:42:07 AM
see now the vortex did you a favor :chuckle:I have the PST FFP 6-24 in mils. Great scope and i have never had a problem but I have not been out in -20 with it either. Bummer about the deer, it would be interesting to hear what Vortex has to say about it. If you can pass that on.Most definitely. I played with it some more and upon closer inspection, you do get a little reticle rotation when you get to each end of the power ring.
On the plus side, my Nikon Buckmaster 4-14x with a Kenton Industries MOA turret on it worked fine. 105gr Berger VLD out of my .243, right in the heart at 500 yards. Was a one shot dirt nap on the next buck, who was even bigger :chuckle:
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 03, 2015, 10:24:37 AM
Will a 20 MOA rail be too tall on a sporter stock? Also, I've only played with one cds model and the original dial on it that was MOA didn't have a zero stop. The yardage turret he eventually got did though. Are they all like this? I had a custom turret systems tape on my Vortex and they just aren't accurate enough for my liking. Pressure and temp swings really play with bullet drop :chuckle:
I run several on plain sporter style stocks. A rail with built in moa is angled downward in the front. Allowing you to get more vertical adjustment once zeroed. You just have to use a little shorter rings to make up for the rail.
If you are shooting a fairly flat loading. You will have no problem with the leupold I listed getting to around 800 yards without a 20 moa rail. So it just depends on how far you want to walk it out. If I am going to be running a rifle at over 600 usually I put a 20 moa rail on it. If most of my shots are going to be under 600. I will just run a 0 moa rail.
That leupold has 113 moa and comes in at 17oz. A very light scope with a lot of adjustment even without the rail.
The yardage dials on the new cds do have a zero stop. I just had 3 of them built and have 3 more to order :chuckle:
For sure pressure, elevation and temp are big factors. That's why some people prefer to use just a moa dial over a yardage dial. My G7 takes in my turret information and reads those factors for accurate shoot to ranges.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 03, 2015, 10:54:39 AM
:tup:Will a 20 MOA rail be too tall on a sporter stock? Also, I've only played with one cds model and the original dial on it that was MOA didn't have a zero stop. The yardage turret he eventually got did though. Are they all like this? I had a custom turret systems tape on my Vortex and they just aren't accurate enough for my liking. Pressure and temp swings really play with bullet drop :chuckle:
I run several on plain sporter style stocks. A rail with built in moa is angled downward in the front. Allowing you to get more vertical adjustment once zeroed. You just have to use a little shorter rings to make up for the rail.
If you are shooting a fairly flat loading. You will have no problem with the leupold I listed getting to around 800 yards without a 20 moa rail. So it just depends on how far you want to walk it out. If I am going to be running a rifle at over 600 usually I put a 20 moa rail on it. If most of my shots are going to be under 600. I will just run a 0 moa rail.
That leupold has 113 moa and comes in at 17oz. A very light scope with a lot of adjustment even without the rail.
The yardage dials on the new cds do have a zero stop. I just had 3 of them built and have 3 more to order :chuckle:
For sure pressure, elevation and temp are big factors. That's why some people prefer to use just a moa dial over a yardage dial. My G7 takes in my turret information and reads those factors for accurate shoot to ranges.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 03, 2015, 10:56:44 AM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 03, 2015, 11:23:05 AM
Im running the 168 lr accubonds in my 7 stw. They are the same way. If i run them over 3k my groups open up.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 03, 2015, 11:56:43 AM
ok little buddy , your a great hunter and i know you can get within 800 yards ... :chuckle: how much moa are you shooting at that distance now ? I'm pretty sure you can get there without 20 moa .Mild temps 20 moa. I could only get 16 out of that Zeiss last night. Mounted pretty high too. Only gets me to 7. Get down to single digits and its less than that. Probably won't ever need that much for killing animals but I like to have the skill and the option if ever needed :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on December 03, 2015, 11:57:23 AM
:chuckle: No kidding huh!see now the vortex did you a favor :chuckle:I have the PST FFP 6-24 in mils. Great scope and i have never had a problem but I have not been out in -20 with it either. Bummer about the deer, it would be interesting to hear what Vortex has to say about it. If you can pass that on.Most definitely. I played with it some more and upon closer inspection, you do get a little reticle rotation when you get to each end of the power ring.
On the plus side, my Nikon Buckmaster 4-14x with a Kenton Industries MOA turret on it worked fine. 105gr Berger VLD out of my .243, right in the heart at 500 yards. Was a one shot dirt nap on the next buck, who was even bigger :chuckle:
Post by: yorketransport on December 04, 2015, 09:33:25 PM
FWIW I don't have zero stops on any of my long range guns and I've never had an issue. The other option is to run the Burris Signature rings with the max inserts installed to shift your POI at 100 yards so that it's as high as possible. Then when you zero the scope at 100 you end up dialing down the elevation closer to the last revolution of the dial. It's not a true zero stop but at least you're not going to be off by a complete revolution. I used the Signature rings combined with a 40 MOA base to set up my 7 RUM with a 760 yard zero so that the Mk 4 scope could dial out to 2350 yards. No need for a zero stop, just spin the turret all the way to the bottom! It did hit about 13" high at 100 yards though! :chuckle:
Andrew
Post by: crabcreekhunter on December 05, 2015, 02:34:48 PM
Post by: chiefeng on December 05, 2015, 03:08:25 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on December 05, 2015, 03:54:53 PM
Post by: scudmaster on December 06, 2015, 08:01:09 PM
BLRman had a viper pst fail on me this year too straight from the factory, they definitely lost me as a rifle scope customer.. Will be returning to Leupolds at the end of the year, I don't mind not having a true zero stop as long as I know where I'm at on my revolution. Personally looking at the 6-18x50 vx6 cds
Out of curiosity, how did it fail?
Post by: crabcreekhunter on December 07, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
BLRman had a viper pst fail on me this year too straight from the factory, they definitely lost me as a rifle scope customer.. Will be returning to Leupolds at the end of the year, I don't mind not having a true zero stop as long as I know where I'm at on my revolution. Personally looking at the 6-18x50 vx6 cdsOccular lense was loose, could actually rotate it in the eyepiece. Appeared to never had an oring installed or atleast installed properly, lost all the gases or what not an extremely blurry. Not a satisfied customer.
Out of curiosity, how did it fail?
Post by: bullcanyon on January 15, 2016, 09:34:42 AM
I have a viper PST and although it tracks true I would not count on it to hunt with.. Can barely see anything through it in low light. I won't buy another viper for hunting. It works good for mid day rock busting adventures, but not for hunting.
Very interested to see what you come up with.
Post by: frazierw on January 15, 2016, 09:42:39 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 15, 2016, 05:03:54 PM
I just put a Nightforce SHV 5-20x56 on my 300 WM and haven't had much time to play with it but I think it's gonna be an awesome scope for $1171.00. It has 80 Moa adjustment. I got the non-illuminated IHR reticle and has a zero-set dial. I just need to find some sturdy scope covers for it.What do you think of the zero set? I am in the market for a shv soon. I've been pretty set on the 4-14 but like a zero stop. I really wish they had the 4-14 with the zero set and sfp...
Post by: whacker1 on January 15, 2016, 05:43:20 PM
Post by: jasnt on January 15, 2016, 07:43:49 PM
I just put a Nightforce SHV 5-20x56 on my 300 WM and haven't had much time to play with it but I think it's gonna be an awesome scope for $1171.00. It has 80 Moa adjustment. I got the non-illuminated IHR reticle and has a zero-set dial. I just need to find some sturdy scope covers for it.ive been debating on that exact scope. Would love to hear your thoughts on it once you get to know it
Post by: Buzz2401 on January 15, 2016, 07:50:39 PM
Post by: Reidus on January 15, 2016, 11:08:50 PM
I'd be interested to see the return rate of Vortex optics compared to other companies. I have been hearing alot about people having to send back their scopes and binos. I don't give two *censored*s about a warranty, I want my products to work when I need them, a warranty doesn't cover missed opportunity.
:yeah: sending stuff in is a pain the butt :bash:
Post by: bearpaw on January 15, 2016, 11:40:54 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 16, 2016, 06:28:51 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 16, 2016, 08:22:01 AM
I love my Steiner GS3 2-10x50. I only wish I'd got the 4-20. Here's a 4-20x50 for 880.00. 30mm tube. Lifetime warranty. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1027250-REG/steiner_5007_4_20x50_gs3_rifelscope_s7.htmlI'll never buy another Steiner/Burris optic again after how I was treated on my Burris signature bino warranty or non warranty... The forever unlimited warranty they offered was no good on Burris anymore so after a run around they offered dealer pricing on Steiner binos. They said because they didn't make Burris binos anymore and only Steiner. They wouldn't replace my Burris binos with comparable stringers either.
In my mind customer service is king and I won't play that game again when there are lots of great companies out there with good service.
Just my experience... And I'm sure the Steiner and Burris scopes we great but they won't get a look from me :twocents:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 16, 2016, 08:23:15 AM
This is a great topic! I don't really care for the complex crosshairs in the Nightforce scopes, I wished they had a more basic crosshair choice. I'm interested in hearing more opinions about the Huskemaw scopes and the Leupold VX-6, anybody else using them?Have you looked at the ihr reticle offered in the nf shv? It is very simple.
I personally prefer the moa reticle but it is what I'm used to
Post by: wsmnut on January 16, 2016, 08:30:38 AM
It is very simple to order the CDS dials, and the longest I waited for one was 10 days. The zero stop comes with the CDS dial and is dirt simple to install.
Wsmnut
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 16, 2016, 08:43:13 AM
I have two of the Leupold VX-6 scopes. A 2-12 on a .270 Win, and a 3-18 on a .300 WSM. I can't say enough about them. Both have CDS dials and duplex reticles. (The 3-18 is a "fine duplex"). They have exhibited no problems with repeatability from turret twisting, both have a zero stop, and are a nice low profile. These are my first experience with a thirty mm tube. The brightness is amazing.what kind of dial up range are you getting out of your cds dials? I'm on the fence between the vx6 and the mark 4.
It is very simple to order the CDS dials, and the longest I waited for one was 10 days. The zero stop comes with the CDS dial and is dirt simple to install.
Wsmnut
Post by: Magnum_Willys on January 16, 2016, 09:19:12 AM
Anyone hunting with a Nightforce and justifies the extra weight ?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 16, 2016, 09:39:05 AM
Post by: wsmnut on January 16, 2016, 09:56:17 AM
I have two of the Leupold VX-6 scopes. A 2-12 on a .270 Win, and a 3-18 on a .300 WSM. I can't say enough about them. Both have CDS dials and duplex reticles. (The 3-18 is a "fine duplex"). They have exhibited no problems with repeatability from turret twisting, both have a zero stop, and are a nice low profile. These are my first experience with a thirty mm tube. The brightness is amazing.what kind of dial up range are you getting out of your cds dials? I'm on the fence between the vx6 and the mark 4.
It is very simple to order the CDS dials, and the longest I waited for one was 10 days. The zero stop comes with the CDS dial and is dirt simple to install.
The dial on the .270 goes up to 780 yards. The dial on the 300wsm goes up to 860.
Your yardage WILL vary due to muzzle velocity, projectile, altitude chosen, etc.
Wsmnut
Wsmnut
Post by: kentrek on January 16, 2016, 10:05:10 AM
I have two of the Leupold VX-6 scopes. A 2-12 on a .270 Win, and a 3-18 on a .300 WSM. I can't say enough about them. Both have CDS dials and duplex reticles. (The 3-18 is a "fine duplex"). They have exhibited no problems with repeatability from turret twisting, both have a zero stop, and are a nice low profile. These are my first experience with a thirty mm tube. The brightness is amazing.what kind of dial up range are you getting out of your cds dials? I'm on the fence between the vx6 and the mark 4.
It is very simple to order the CDS dials, and the longest I waited for one was 10 days. The zero stop comes with the CDS dial and is dirt simple to install.
Wsmnut
When in doubt...add a 20 moa base :tup:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 16, 2016, 11:05:39 AM
Yep, that's why I don't like cds dials, too many variables on a shot, especially if you're hunting vastly different areas like I do. The cds dials, even if I got one in moa, only do a single rotation because of the zero stop, correct?I have two of the Leupold VX-6 scopes. A 2-12 on a .270 Win, and a 3-18 on a .300 WSM. I can't say enough about them. Both have CDS dials and duplex reticles. (The 3-18 is a "fine duplex"). They have exhibited no problems with repeatability from turret twisting, both have a zero stop, and are a nice low profile. These are my first experience with a thirty mm tube. The brightness is amazing.what kind of dial up range are you getting out of your cds dials? I'm on the fence between the vx6 and the mark 4.
It is very simple to order the CDS dials, and the longest I waited for one was 10 days. The zero stop comes with the CDS dial and is dirt simple to install.
The dial on the .270 goes up to 780 yards. The dial on the 300wsm goes up to 860.
Your yardage WILL vary due to muzzle velocity, projectile, altitude chosen, etc.
Wsmnut
Wsmnut
Post by: wsmnut on January 16, 2016, 11:13:44 AM
I'm very happy with the performance of this set up. For me, it works great. Even though I change altitudes on hunting trips, the difference isn't that great at the ranges I'm likely to shoot at game. If it were a big difference, I'd just order another dial.
Pretty cool that we have all these choices. Something to fit everyone. :IBCOOL:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 16, 2016, 11:24:57 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 16, 2016, 12:48:50 PM
Correct, but you don't have to install the zero stop. But I can't imagine hunting without it.The single revolution limit with the zero stop makes the CDs a no go for me. If they had 25 Mao dials I'd be all over it.
I'm very happy with the performance of this set up. For me, it works great. Even though I change altitudes on hunting trips, the difference isn't that great at the ranges I'm likely to shoot at game. If it were a big difference, I'd just order another dial.
Pretty cool that we have all these choices. Something to fit everyone. :IBCOOL:
I agree with Karl on the features of the viper line. But failure will change a guy's mind quickly.
I wonder if nightforce can install the zero set elevation dial on a 4-14x56 shv? Probably cost prohibitive since the 5-20 has it and is only $200 more.
I'm in the same boat with a new rifle.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on January 16, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
Post by: elkaholic123 on January 16, 2016, 02:25:29 PM
I have the SHV 5-20 and really like it, very nice glass.Correct, but you don't have to install the zero stop. But I can't imagine hunting without it.
I'm very happy with the performance of this set up. For me, it works great. Even though I change altitudes on hunting trips, the difference isn't that great at the ranges I'm likely to shoot at game. If it were a big difference, I'd just order another dial.
Pretty cool that we have all these choices. Something to fit everyone. :IBCOOL:
The single revolution limit with the zero stop makes the CDs a no go for me. If they had 25 Mao dials I'd be all over it.
I agree with Karl on the features of the viper line. But failure will change a guy's mind quickly.
I wonder if nightforce can install the zero set elevation dial on a 4-14x56 shv? Probably cost prohibitive since the 5-20 has it and is only $200 more.
I'm in the same boat with a new rifle.
Post by: yorketransport on January 16, 2016, 08:54:58 PM
Definitely. For a tactical turret hunting scope I loved the features of my vortex but failure doesn't fly with me so here I am . I really want a NF NSX but good lord that's a pile of cash!
You can just get the CDS scope and not order the custom dial. That's what I do and I end up with a hunting scope with an exposed MOA turret without resorting to larger tacitcal turrets. It's basically the Vortex HS-T without having to own a Vortex. :chuckle:
As far as NF scopes go, I don't know if I'd pay full price for one. They're nice but the NXS just doesn't seem $1800 nice to me
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 16, 2016, 09:08:25 PM
exactly my thoughts. I bought a CDs scope for my 243. Going to order a single rev zero stop marked in moa to keep me straight as this isn't a real long range gun.Definitely. For a tactical turret hunting scope I loved the features of my vortex but failure doesn't fly with me so here I am . I really want a NF NSX but good lord that's a pile of cash!
You can just get the CDS scope and not order the custom dial. That's what I do and I end up with a hunting scope with an exposed MOA turret without resorting to larger tacitcal turrets. It's basically the Vortex HS-T without having to own a Vortex. :chuckle:
As far as NF scopes go, I don't know if I'd pay full price for one. They're nice but the NXS just doesn't seem $1800 nice to me
I own a razor hd scope and love it but wouldn't pay retail.
What's your thoughts on the shv York?
Post by: huntandjeep on January 17, 2016, 08:09:52 AM
HmmmmmI was going to link these. I have 2 mark 4's and have never had a problem with not having a zero stop .
Post by: Wanttohuntmore on January 17, 2016, 10:36:00 AM
Post by: yorketransport on January 17, 2016, 12:47:51 PM
What's your thoughts on the shv York?
I haven't had a lot of time to shoot behind one but I do like what I've seen. I'd probably go with one of those over an NXS unless I had some need for one of the other NF reticles. The SHV may be a better option in the $1000 price range than the Vortex PST :sry:, or Sightron S III. I really do love the Sightron scopes though! As much as I love Leupolds they need to come up with something better than the CDS dials to compete with the other scopes in the $1000 bracket. :twocents:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 18, 2016, 05:42:06 PM
Post by: The scout on February 18, 2016, 05:45:01 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 18, 2016, 06:10:55 PM
Post by: bearpaw on February 18, 2016, 06:13:47 PM
I have two of the Leupold VX-6 scopes. A 2-12 on a .270 Win, and a 3-18 on a .300 WSM. I can't say enough about them. Both have CDS dials and duplex reticles. (The 3-18 is a "fine duplex"). They have exhibited no problems with repeatability from turret twisting, both have a zero stop, and are a nice low profile. These are my first experience with a thirty mm tube. The brightness is amazing.
It is very simple to order the CDS dials, and the longest I waited for one was 10 days. The zero stop comes with the CDS dial and is dirt simple to install.
Wsmnut
Thanks for info!
So I have finally settled on a scope :IBCOOL: I had decided on a Mark 4 but while at the Portland Sportsmans show I got my hands one one of the new VX6's! It is EXACTLY what I have been looking for! 3-18x50, capped windage, zero stop, or in this case zero lock as the turret has a button which locks it at zero. Model comes with a single rotation turret but their custom shop will do a double rotation turret. Undecided on if I'll go double rotation as I'm going to have the ts32x1 reticle installed in it which will give me 32 MOA worth of hold over just in the reticle. Scope is like 20 Oz so weight will be a nice savings.
Curious to hear how you like it after you shoot it some at long range? I just got to look at a new Huskemaw, I'm anxious to see how it works after it's mounted up.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 18, 2016, 06:16:50 PM
Post by: bearpaw on February 18, 2016, 06:24:19 PM
Do they make the CDS dial to match your load exactly, or do they have say a dozen different dials and they send you the closest?
With huskemaw they make the dial to exactly match your load, I'm told you turn it to 600 yards and it should be right on.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 18, 2016, 06:28:54 PM
RE: Leupold VX6They are made to your exact loads and data. I'll be sticking with the MOA dial as I prefer it over a cds as I hunt many different elevations and weather conditions. Just a personal preference.
Do they make the CDS dial to match your load exactly, or do they have say a dozen different dials and they send you the closest?
With huskemaw they make the dial to exactly match your load, I'm told you turn it to 600 yards and it should be right on.
Post by: bearpaw on February 18, 2016, 06:34:20 PM
RE: Leupold VX6They are made to your exact loads and data. I'll be sticking with the MOA dial as I prefer it over a cds as I hunt many different elevations and weather conditions. Just a personal preference.
Do they make the CDS dial to match your load exactly, or do they have say a dozen different dials and they send you the closest?
With huskemaw they make the dial to exactly match your load, I'm told you turn it to 600 yards and it should be right on.
Sometimes I'm at 1300 feet, sometimes at 9000 feet. I figured on buying extra dials, but maybe the MOA is the way to go. Can someone explain how the MOA works? Sorry I'm new to these systems.
Post by: Reidus on February 18, 2016, 06:45:14 PM
If you have a yardage dial, Its going to be made for specific conditions (altitude, temp, humidity etc). Out to say 400-500 yds this will probably work fine. But go to a different temp, elevation, humidity and try use your dial to make a 600 to 700yd + shot and it's not going to cut it.
Post by: bearpaw on February 18, 2016, 06:56:31 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 18, 2016, 07:07:44 PM
Post by: Reidus on February 18, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Post by: bearpaw on February 18, 2016, 07:12:20 PM
Run some numbers. I think you might be suprised :twocents:
I've looked at how much elevation affects the numbers, immensely, I do need to look at the other variables.
Post by: bearpaw on February 18, 2016, 07:16:36 PM
Zeiss V8 Series
http://www.zeiss.com/sports-optics/en_us/hunting/riflescopes/victory-riflescopes/victory-v8-riflescopes.html
Post by: coop2424 on February 18, 2016, 07:22:06 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 18, 2016, 07:25:00 PM
Always got to one up... That will be a nice scope.. When I looked through that reticle I forgot what I was doing with all the dots... Not surprised though with my simple mind... Keep us posted...I'm just getting it so every time I'm around Bullblaster I can sit there and just click the zero lock button over and over :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 18, 2016, 07:28:09 PM
Not nice! As long as you let me take a few clicks now and then I'll allow it!Always got to one up... That will be a nice scope.. When I looked through that reticle I forgot what I was doing with all the dots... Not surprised though with my simple mind... Keep us posted...I'm just getting it so every time I'm around Bullblaster I can sit there and just click the zero lock button over and over :chuckle:
Post by: coop2424 on February 18, 2016, 07:30:41 PM
Always got to one up... That will be a nice scope.. When I looked through that reticle I forgot what I was doing with all the dots... Not surprised though with my simple mind... Keep us posted...I'm just getting it so every time I'm around Bullblaster I can sit there and just click the zero lock button over and over :chuckle:
Haha
Post by: Karl Blanchard on February 18, 2016, 07:34:46 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on February 18, 2016, 07:42:26 PM
Atmospheric pressure is the number one affect. I like using the actual pressure and leaving elevation outbid the equation.Run some numbers. I think you might be suprised :twocents:
I've looked at how much elevation affects the numbers, immensely, I do need to look at the other variables.
You have a Leica 1600 rangefinder correct? That will give you all the important info you need. Pressure, temp, and angle. Yardage too. Just input into the calculator (strelok shooter etc) and twist and shoot!